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SOLAR WATCH * 312 M & 25 X FLARES starting 3-7-2011 (Updated Daily)

 
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NiNz,did I not share this [link to www.leif.org] with you?
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


nooooo
thank you for that!!!!!
so they switched then.....
 Quoting: NiNzrez

Cesium, I hope you didn't have S0 broadcast 'it switched' to thousands, haha, because they sure haven't!

Those charts are not necessarily intuitive. It took me quite a while (and a few emails with Leif) to figure them out.

Anyways, not even the Sun's north pole has reversed yet. Very close, but no cigar yet.

Note: To explain a little, the only readings on that chart that have shown the north polar region in a positive polarity, came at times when the actual north pole was not even visible to WSO.

Those were lower latitudes being measured; low latitudes of the northern hemisphere are measured every spring, the actual north pole is measured every fall. This is not done by choice, but rather by necessity, fall is the only time of year when Earth is positioned such that the Sun's north pole is visible from WSO.

The lower latitudes of the Sun's northern hemisphere exhibiting a positive polarity is nothing new, they have been doing so since the spring of 2011.

Measurements of the actual pole have yet to indicate a reversal.

 Quoting: madajs.


keep reading past 2 pages of posts on this subject ^^
 Quoting: NiNzrez 28232082

Hi NiN :)

What specifically are you referring to? I thought I did read all the relevant posts tounge

Addendum: It just seemed like there was still some lingering confusion as to whether the north, specifically, had reversed.

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Good morning all .... hf


So much to wrap my mind around once I get home . Thank you all for all you do !!!
 Quoting: TS66


Oi!

66 - You gave me Red Karma darlink?

Why!?

I haz sad now?
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...

+1^^ what isis said : )
rgds, rawpaul (mostly lurker)
...SC, much thanks for last links -added to list of reads -im still working thru Landscheidt work you posted few weeks back... i'll take you up on questioning if i get stuck : )
 Quoting: Isis One


Ahhh!

Thank you UKACwink

You do not know how chuffed it makes me feel to know others are taking notice - Sounds like it obviously clicked with you also,well,it is hard to dismiss the evidence!

I presented pure facts/measured 0bserved and tested data.

Thank you again,and I look forward to it!

sunhf
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and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
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NiNz,did I not share this [link to www.leif.org] with you?
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


nooooo
thank you for that!!!!!
so they switched then.....
 Quoting: NiNzrez

Cesium, I hope you didn't have S0 broadcast 'it switched' to thousands, haha, because they sure haven't!

Those charts are not necessarily intuitive. It took me quite a while (and a few emails with Leif) to figure them out.

Anyways, not even the Sun's north pole has reversed yet. Very close, but no cigar yet.

Note: To explain a little, the only readings on that chart that have shown the north polar region in a positive polarity, came at times when the actual north pole was not even visible to WSO.

Those were lower latitudes being measured; low latitudes of the northern hemisphere are measured every spring, the actual north pole is measured every fall. This is not done by choice, but rather by necessity, fall is the only time of year when Earth is positioned such that the Sun's north pole is visible from WSO.

The lower latitudes of the Sun's northern hemisphere exhibiting a positive polarity is nothing new, they have been doing so since the spring of 2011.

Measurements of the actual pole have yet to indicate a reversal.

 Quoting: madajs.


Hahaha!
no,that wasn't what I was presenting it for - I clarified this above with the rest of my comments : )

But,I did when I first saw it think it was revised in March this Year and did think 'oh,that happened quietly,without Gnewz,they appear to have switched since the last WSO Update' - but did not utilize it to that end and in fact didn't proliferate that assumption(which is just as well!)as I was too concerned with the context in which I have been trying to hammer home for the last Month or so now,that being Everything I said in my last larger comment above : )

What do you think about all that Maddy?

Surely you can only conclude the same as I,right?

Or is there any of the data or projected info that you take any issue with Br0ther!?
hf

Please,get back to me as You have a great brain and I enjoy your input,massively...as do others!

sun

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here is the post i was talking about madajs.

...


Exactly,no-one would here me though - Even had S0 broadcast it to Thousands,still nowt.

Thank you NiNz.
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


ahhh man.. why the hell not!?!
this is huge!

but had to look into this closer
no flip just yet, it almost did, then stabelized

here is the WSO solar dipole
[link to wso.stanford.edu]

here is just the North, where we can see it reversed
[link to wso.stanford.edu]

and here is just the South, where we can see it when to the very point of reversal, then stopped and stabelized
[link to wso.stanford.edu]


with it being THAT close, we could be seeing a solar polar flip at any sek without much notice at all
 Quoting: NiNzrez


Yes,it is crazy...It looks like the poles are smeered around the Sun in patches,check the magnetograms and this is kind of visible sometimes - with a large predominant Polarity occupying sections of the Sun at different times,it definitely did achieve at one point a crossing before something happened...I'll read the rest of your comment and links to find out what,exactly.

Thank you NiNz for being so on ithf

Fucking Awesome.

sun
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


Most recent WSO Magnetogram
[link to wso.stanford.edu]
look at the placment of the +/- regions
this sun is at the point of wanting to flip!
[link to wso.stanford.edu]

WSO generates data about the Sun's magnetic field in the following forms:

MAGNETOGRAMS

Magnetograms are magntic maps of the Sun's surface. The Sun rotates every 27
days and the features change with time, so the maps change from day to day.
magnetogram: [link to wso.stanford.edu]

SYNOPTIC CHARTS

Synoptic Charts are magnetic maps of the whole Sun. Magnetograms taken over a
solar rotation are combined to give a complete picture of the solar field. The
Earth is near the solar equator, so we never get a very good look at the Sun's
poles.
Synoptic Chart: [link to wso.stanford.edu]

CORONAL FIELDS

The field in the corona can not be measured directly. However the field can be
modeled because it's basic structure is determined by the conditions in the
photosphere. We use a potential field model to compute the field about 1.5
solar radii above the Sun's surface. That's the height at which the field
pattern becomes fixed. That pattern is carried out into interplanetary space
by the solar wind. It takes about 4 days for the pattern to reach the Earth.
The model isn't very good at predicting dynamic changes in the corona.
Coronal PFSS map: [link to wso.stanford.edu]

Read more about this:
[link to wso.stanford.edu]
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NiNz,did I not share this [link to www.leif.org] with you?
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


nooooo
thank you for that!!!!!
so they switched then.....
 Quoting: NiNzrez

Cesium, I hope you didn't have S0 broadcast 'it switched' to thousands, haha, because they sure haven't!

Those charts are not necessarily intuitive. It took me quite a while (and a few emails with Leif) to figure them out.

Anyways, not even the Sun's north pole has reversed yet. Very close, but no cigar yet.

Note: To explain a little, the only readings on that chart that have shown the north polar region in a positive polarity, came at times when the actual north pole was not even visible to WSO.

Those were lower latitudes being measured; low latitudes of the northern hemisphere are measured every spring, the actual north pole is measured every fall. This is not done by choice, but rather by necessity, fall is the only time of year when Earth is positioned such that the Sun's north pole is visible from WSO.

The lower latitudes of the Sun's northern hemisphere exhibiting a positive polarity is nothing new, they have been doing so since the spring of 2011.

Measurements of the actual pole have yet to indicate a reversal.

 Quoting: madajs.


And yes,also...the rest of what you said concerning how and when they update and other reasons you mentioned in the past actually helped me loads..it was you I think about 4 Months back that pointed out that there is a 3 and 6 Month jig ol Sol does where in the Polarities can appear to have crossed,and may have...but it doesn't always mean it has 'happened' fully as what tends to happen is like when you poke your toe in the bath and then foot,in and out until you get used to the temperature(shit comparison,I have been up for 36 Hours+)so do the Poles of the Sun kind of surge in and out in and then out,making headway each time but each time moving back to another position(ahead of the last)until a temperament is achieved and they have no choice but to flip.

I do eagerly await the next update but to be honest,as I have said before - even if the Second round were to match the first in terms of Flaring and Suspots,it will not in any way make up for a 'normal' max. and should still be correctly considered a 'Minima Period' where Sunspot counts are low and Flaring events,minor.

The projected OMFS of the Sun through 2030> is very worrying(in terms of 'how will they even flip?') [link to www.vukcevic.talktalk.net] .

Rice and Peas Maddy,and thank you again for helping me learn that aspect : )
Excuse my messy sentences etc. this Evening,I am past tired.

sun

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we can see here that since stabelizing, as stated above, the southern polar field is now growing toward and close to the flip/reverals again.
[link to wso.stanford.edu]
(this was the last reported reading on Feb 26th - almost a month back)
it would be a bit more than uncommon to see it stabelize once more when it hits the reversal stage
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lol.


Great put together!
rockon


Thank you NiNz : )

I have been at this for a few now and have tried to show the same in the last Month or so here as all the evidence indicates,really to a almost full-gone-conclusion,what it is that I have been trying to show - I cannot possibly view it any other way!?

I have done enough back-checking of data of precious cycles and read a lot about the drivers of these Cycles(all the Cycles of the Sun,not just the Min.Max.11/22 Year Cycle)to really feel I am able to say now say that,The case for a New Minimum can be presented with a 96% certainty(I'd actually say full gone conclusion but shan't)of happening now through the next 50-100+Years - Based on the Rapid Decline of the OMFS of the Sun and the seeming inability it may have to even Flip for a while [link to www.vukcevic.talktalk.net] .

(NiNz - I am just reiterating this for others mainly,Ithink you get the gist of it,well)

Also tough,for you NiNz and others -

This Video that says that yes,we are headed for 'Ice Age 2015/30 Onwards' - From the CERN Cloud Experiment Talks,Jason Kirby - [link to vimeo.com] Yes,it is a Vimeo link,the one on YT is a different presentation for those that may wonder that.

I suggest using it to go to Bed listening to,so that you can focus on what is being said...as well as going to Bed listening to a good Lecture/Talk is always,also the Dogs Bollox hf

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we can see here that since stabelizing, as stated above, the southern polar field is now growing toward and close to the flip/reverals again.
[link to wso.stanford.edu]
(this was the last reported reading on Feb 26th - almost a month back)
it would be a bit more than uncommon to see it stabelize once more when it hits the reversal stage
 Quoting: NiNzrez 28232082


Hello NiNzhi

You posted this earlier and I bookmarked it but failed to take a decent look at it - Thank you Sooo much for the reminder!

SolStar1NiNzsunrockon

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The thing that hath been,
is That which shall be;
and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
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M Flare!

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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woohoo

I think it has to be 1692 in the North-West [link to halpha.nso.edu] unless some of those farside ejections on the East are responsible for it...Eve isn't showing yet [link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov] ?

The farside has been mental,I think I posted the EUVI Earlier?

Look at all of it [link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov] [link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov] !?

Awesome hey!?

It is 1692 !
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Whoo hooooo!
GOES X-ray
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
M1.6
EVE
[link to img62.imageshack.us]
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Whoo hooooo!
GOES X-ray
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
M1.6
EVE
[link to img62.imageshack.us]
cool2
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Isnt earths footprint in this region?
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What do you guys make of this?
"SOHO image"

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Thank you so much Sammich!

Good stuff.

The region/s around 1692 look pretty hectic,Polarity wise.

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

Awesome.

Thank you!
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Whoo hooooo!
GOES X-ray
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
M1.6
EVE
[link to img62.imageshack.us]
cool2
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Isnt earths footprint in this region?
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Curious also where Earth's footprint is. I never saved the link to show.
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Whoo hooooo!
GOES X-ray
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
M1.6
EVE
[link to img62.imageshack.us]
cool2
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Isnt earths footprint in this region?
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Curious also where Earth's footprint is. I never saved the link to show.
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I think in todays news S0 showed it was around that zone, will have to watch again, was near the end
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we can see here that since stabelizing, as stated above, the southern polar field is now growing toward and close to the flip/reverals again.
[link to wso.stanford.edu]
(this was the last reported reading on Feb 26th - almost a month back)
it would be a bit more than uncommon to see it stabelize once more when it hits the reversal stage
 Quoting: NiNzrez 28232082


Hello NiNzhi

You posted this earlier and I bookmarked it but failed to take a decent look at it - Thank you Sooo much for the reminder!

SolStar1NiNzsunrockon
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very welcome :)

i go to color my hair and come back to that M flare
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no alerts issued yet with this M flare
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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:eve1:
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Whoo hooooo!
GOES X-ray
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
M1.6
EVE
[link to img62.imageshack.us]
cool2
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Isnt earths footprint in this region?
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Curious also where Earth's footprint is. I never saved the link to show.
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I think in todays news S0 showed it was around that zone, will have to watch again, was near the end
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Here you go this the earths footprint link.

[link to iswa.ccmc.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080]

Close down the mini windows and you will get to the one SO uses for the actual sun picture.

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What do you guys make of this?
"SOHO image"

[link to godlikeproductions.com]
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any of you have a link handy for whats on soho lasco C2?
i have my C3
but will have to search for C2
here is the real time image the poster is asking about
[link to sohodata.nascom.nasa.gov]
look in the very bottom right
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Isnt earths footprint in this region?
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Curious also where Earth's footprint is. I never saved the link to show.
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I think in todays news S0 showed it was around that zone, will have to watch again, was near the end
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Here you go this the earths footprint link.

[link to iswa.ccmc.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080]

Close down the mini windows and you will get to the one SO uses for the actual sun picture.

Much Love,
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Thank you hf bookmarked the link :)
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What do you guys make of this?
"SOHO image"

[link to godlikeproductions.com]
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I've never seen anything like that before,wish we had more of a picture.

[link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]

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So the M-flare was not connected to Earth?
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[link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]

Watch the movie from C2, very strange object gets lit up in the bottom right hand corner?
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here is the post i was talking about madajs.
 Quoting: NiNzrez 28232082

Thanks for making the effort to pull that up NiN :)

To be honest, I did read that post originally, and I'm not really sure everybody is on the same page in this conversation haha!

We definitely agree on the major points, we're close to a reversal, and it's going to be exciting watching the climax here in the next while!

Also, woohoo at the M flare popcorn
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What do you guys make of this?
"SOHO image"

[link to godlikeproductions.com]
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any of you have a link handy for whats on soho lasco C2?
i have my C3
but will have to search for C2
here is the real time image the poster is asking about
[link to sohodata.nascom.nasa.gov]
look in the very bottom right
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I believe it's mercury moving into view my good sir
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What do you guys make of this?
"SOHO image"

[link to godlikeproductions.com]
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I've never seen anything like that before,wish we had more of a picture.

[link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]
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Lens flare? Is this on any other images?
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03/21/2013 04:16 PM

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Re: SOLAR WATCH * 312 M & 25 X FLARES starting 3-7-2011 (Updated Daily)
What do you guys make of this?
"SOHO image"

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12506015


any of you have a link handy for whats on soho lasco C2?
i have my C3
but will have to search for C2
here is the real time image the poster is asking about
[link to sohodata.nascom.nasa.gov]
look in the very bottom right
 Quoting: Ni 28232082


No,not at hand sorry NiNz,but whatever it is is starting to come into frame - looks either very bright or very close to the Instrument or both,me thinks both...I just found a site,a awesome little site I have not seen before [link to www.spacew.com] I need to have a little look in there,looks pretty interesting at first glance.

But,yes...hmmmm?

Anyone knowz who dat iz?

sun
The thing that hath been,
is That which shall be;
and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
Ecclesiastes 9:1

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