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SOLAR WATCH * 312 M & 25 X FLARES starting 3-7-2011 (Updated Daily)

 
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I've got a question. If this proton storm isn't from the flare how can the protons reach us this fast from the CME. Being dense in nature this would have to be plasmatic nuceii hittiing us, that should take days with the speed of this CME. Proton absorption is within 8 seconds after the flare, but a storm of this magnitude has to be plasmatic?

There is something strange with the events from today, charts all screwy, SO is talking about a gamma burst from our sun and now this immediate proton storm. Just thinking out loud!Peace all
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Solar energetic particles
Solar energetic particles can originate from two processes: 1. energetization at a solar-flare site or
2. by shock waves associated with coronal mass ejections (CMEs).
Two main mechanisms of acceleration are possible: diffusive shock acceleration (DSA, sometimes referred as first-order Fermi acceleration) or shock-drift mechanism. SEPs can be accelerated to energies of several tens of MeV within 5-10 solar radii (0.05% of the Sun–Earth distance) and can reach Earth in a matter of a few hours after a flare or an ejection. This makes prediction and warning of SEP events quite challenging


Solar Energetic Particles (SEPs) are high-energy particles coming from the Sun which had been first observed in the early 1940s. They consist of protons, electrons and heavy ions with energy ranging from a few tens of keV to GeV (the fastest particles can reach speed up to 80% of the speed of light). They are of particular interest and importance because they can endanger life in outer space (especially particles above 40 MeV). SEPs can originate from two processes: energetization at a solar flare site or by shock waves associated with Coronal Mass Ejection (CMEs). However, only about 1% of the CMEs produce strong SEP events.
[link to web.physics.udel.edu]

SOLAR ENERGETIC PARTICLE EVENTS AND ASSOCIATED SHOCKS IN THE INTERPLANETARY MEDIUM
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The dependence of solar energetic proton (SEP) event peak intensities Ip on properties of associated coronal mass ejections (CMEs) has been extensively examined, but the dependence of SEP event timescales is not well known. We define three timescales of 20 MeV SEP events and ask how they are related to speeds v CME or widths W of their associated CMEs observed by LASCO/SOHO. The timescales of the EPACT/Wind 20 MeV events are TO, the onset time from CME launch to SEP onset; TR, the rise time from onset to half the peak intensity (0.5Ip); and TD, the duration of the SEP intensity above 0.5Ip. This is a statistical study based on 217 SEP-CME events observed during 1996-2008
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Who red pinned this thread?
wtf
Now the shills will fly here.
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We all need to unpin it
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why you dont want people coming in here reading and learning?
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Who red pinned this thread?
wtf
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We all need to unpin it
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Done...unpin suggested.
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Re: SOLAR WATCH * 312 M & 25 X FLARES starting 3-7-2011 (Updated Daily)
Strong solar flare reaching M7.3 erupted from Region 1745 - CME released

Associated with the event was a Type II and Type IV Radio Emission indicating a Coronal Mass Ejection (CME) is associated with a flare event. This CME could have an Earth directed component. A 10 cm radio burst was also associated according to report from SWPC. This can be indicative of significant radio noise in association with a solar flare. This noise is generally short-lived but can cause interference for sensitive receivers including radar, GPS, and satellite communications.

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The light yellow line. 250 or less at this time.
 Quoting: whiteangel

The CH stream
 Quoting: Da fuq


Not hitting yet.
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I'm thinking this eruption tweaked the CHS somehow, look at the readings jumping.
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The light yellow line. 250 or less at this time.
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No. He was probably asking why did it drop like hammer to the bottom in few minutes.
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yes i was,,, sorry for not being specific... just gone
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Get ready guys. You just got red pinned.
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thanks for the heads up
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Get ready guys. You just got red pinned.
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thanks for the heads up
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No problem. I remember the last time!
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Get ready guys. You just got red pinned.
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Awww crap
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Sorry hon. I ONLY lurk here. I'm still trying to figure this all out by osmosis and everyone's conversations. I DO know none of you like this thread pinned. Just thought I'd warn y'all.

I'm really watching after seeing Nin's post about it affecting the weather this weekend. We've got t-storms coming in the same window and some were already supposed to be severe.
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Love having other join in, it is the shills and trolls that are unwelcome. Ninz is lurking so she will probably delete a lot.

Fingers crossed.
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as always, i'm around when there is any bigger event :)
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Re: SOLAR WATCH * 312 M & 25 X FLARES starting 3-7-2011 (Updated Daily)
Still waiting for CACTUS to update on CME.
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Awww crap
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Sorry hon. I ONLY lurk here. I'm still trying to figure this all out by osmosis and everyone's conversations. I DO know none of you like this thread pinned. Just thought I'd warn y'all.

I'm really watching after seeing Nin's post about it affecting the weather this weekend. We've got t-storms coming in the same window and some were already supposed to be severe.
 Quoting: Texan Buckeye


Love having other join in, it is the shills and trolls that are unwelcome. Ninz is lurking so she will probably delete a lot.

Fingers crossed.
 Quoting: whiteangel


as always, i'm around when there is any bigger event :)
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hugs
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Get ready guys. You just got red pinned.
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thanks for the heads up
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No problem. I remember the last time!
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Sent me into hiding!! Almost as cowardly as my governor giving a killer at Chuck E Cheese clemency today!
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Red pin removed!

Back to lurking as well!

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Get ready guys. You just got red pinned.
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thanks for the heads up
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No problem. I remember the last time!
 Quoting: Texan Buckeye


Sent me into hiding!! Almost as cowardly as my governor giving a killer at Chuck E Cheese clemency today!
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I know! Looks lie the un-pin worked, y'all are safe again. I'm back to lurking. Thanks guys. I love this thread, I just don't have enough of a handle on the info to talk about it.
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[link to www.solarham.net]

Temp on the rise now
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Re: RED ALERT: Something Very Big Has Just Happened on the Sun!
I cannot believe what the SDO images look like. WTF just happened on the sun and why did EVERY monitor go down 2 hours before it?

GOES is down, EVE is down, DRAP is down.

D-RAP has been down with EVE and GOES so I dont know anything quantitative about this event... qualitatively... its one of the most violent f***ing eruptions I've ever seen, my friend. Gonna be a long day.


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Today Is 5/22/2013... 5/4/6... Is 6... The Day Of Man...

That's The Message From The Sun... Whipping Lashing Command Direct To The LEFT... V ... The Liars Of The Family... The Deniers Of The Family...
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[link to www.solarham.net]
The light yellow line. 250 or less at this time.
 Quoting: whiteangel

The CH stream
 Quoting: Da fuq


the coronal hole winds are due to hit in a few days


SOLAR WIND: A stream of solar wind blowing from a southern coronal hole on the sun is expected to brush past Earth's magnetic field on May 23-24. NOAA forecasters estimate a 30% chance that the contact will spark polar geomagnetic storms
[link to spaceweather.com]


this CH wind will be arriving just before the CME from todays event, paving the path so to speak
because of this, I would expect this CME to cause a bit more of a stir on earths magnetosphere than it would have otherwise
 Quoting: NiNzrez


Is There Any Evident Effect of Coronal Holes on Gradual Solar Energetic Particle Events?
[link to iopscience.iop.org]
Solar energetic particle (SEP) events are one of the most important processes in space weather. Generally, SEP events have two classes: one is impulsive and the other is gradual (Cane et al. 1986; Reames 1999; Kallenrode 2003). The energetic particles in impulsive events usually come from the sites where flares occur. Rapid release of magnetic energy through magnetic field reconnections produces them. The particles in gradual events are considered to be generated at coronal/interplanetary shocks driven by fast coronal mass ejections (CMEs; e.g., Reames 1999). Statistically, gradual SEP events are larger and longer than the impulsive events. Mixed SEP events may also exist (e.g., Cane et al. 2003), in which there are both flare and shock particle components


Both the fast and slow solar wind can be interrupted by large, fast-moving bursts of plasma called interplanetary coronal mass ejections, or ICMEs. ICMEs are the interplanetary manifestation of solar coronal mass ejections, which are caused by release of magnetic energy at the Sun. CMEs are often called "solar storms" or "space storms" in the popular media. They are sometimes, but not always, associated with solar flares, which are another manifestation of magnetic energy release at the Sun. ICMEs cause shock waves in the thin plasma of the heliosphere, launching electromagnetic waves and accelerating particles (mostly protons and electrons) to form showers of ionizing radiation that precede the CME
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

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The sun literally 'communicates' with Earth through not only a heat balance, and radiation, but also electromagnetics (as well as in multiple dimensional fields too - but that is for another day). When the solar electromagnetics 'bursts' toward Earth, it ripples through the ionosphere, and eventually 'slams' into the oceans / lithosphere (land).

Volcanoes, earthquakes and some tsunamis get their "communication" (directives, if you will) from the sun, as well as other cosmic energy pathways meeting in with earth, as well as certain energetic vibrations within earth. The communication multi-channel is complex for sure.

Essentially, in the example we are talking about, the solar energy can directly cause a volcano to erupt, and/or it can trigger a larger earthquake, and if that vibration is in the ocean (or sometimes near a body of water), the sun's electromagnetic pulse can literally set-off a tsunami.

IF a tsunami did occur in the North Atlantic, it is more likely than not, that given the spectrum of magnetics at this time, the propagation of the wave would be from SE to NW, that is, from the West Coast of Africa to Newfoundland (and then that water would go down the Eastern Seaboard). The water would also come straight toward the NE USA / Mid-Atlantic USA coastline, and perhaps further south if the wave is larger. As for Britain, the consequences would be less than those in the USA, but you would still get a notable water risk even in the median case / risk scenario.
Thread: 'Climate Risk Scientist' Tells FOX News "Solar Flares" May Cause North Atlantic Tsunami May 20 (Page 11)
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The sun literally 'communicates' with Earth through not only a heat balance, and radiation, but also electromagnetics (as well as in multiple dimensional fields too - but that is for another day). When the solar electromagnetics 'bursts' toward Earth, it ripples through the ionosphere, and eventually 'slams' into the oceans / lithosphere (land).

Volcanoes, earthquakes and some tsunamis get their "communication" (directives, if you will) from the sun, as well as other cosmic energy pathways meeting in with earth, as well as certain energetic vibrations within earth. The communication multi-channel is complex for sure.

Essentially, in the example we are talking about, the solar energy can directly cause a volcano to erupt, and/or it can trigger a larger earthquake, and if that vibration is in the ocean (or sometimes near a body of water), the sun's electromagnetic pulse can literally set-off a tsunami.

IF a tsunami did occur in the North Atlantic, it is more likely than not, that given the spectrum of magnetics at this time, the propagation of the wave would be from SE to NW, that is, from the West Coast of Africa to Newfoundland (and then that water would go down the Eastern Seaboard). The water would also come straight toward the NE USA / Mid-Atlantic USA coastline, and perhaps further south if the wave is larger. As for Britain, the consequences would be less than those in the USA, but you would still get a notable water risk even in the median case / risk scenario.
Thread: 'Climate Risk Scientist' Tells FOX News "Solar Flares" May Cause North Atlantic Tsunami May 20 (Page 11)
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Mental illness and solar spikes are well-documented, although the peer-reviewed literature does not politically allow much to be said on the subject. But it is true: zombie-ism can be induced by a change in magnetics. Now obviously, this standalone case was probably drugs too (as the majority reason for his insanity), but the POINT is that as the sun changes, NASA and other parts of the government know that approximately 5-15% of the population will have rapidly-advancing mental illness when the magnetics shift.
Thread: 'Climate Risk Scientist' Tells FOX News "Solar Flares" May Cause North Atlantic Tsunami May 20 (Page 11)
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"Doctor" is that you? lolsign
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no but if you scroll back to my ID number you will see im posting proof to what hes talking about
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I've got a question. If this proton storm isn't from the flare how can the protons reach us this fast from the CME. Being dense in nature this would have to be plasmatic nuceii hittiing us, that should take days with the speed of this CME. Proton absorption is within 8 seconds after the flare, but a storm of this magnitude has to be plasmatic?

There is something strange with the events from today, charts all screwy, SO is talking about a gamma burst from our sun and now this immediate proton storm. Just thinking out loud!Peace all
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These be auspicious times
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the atmosphere feels like it's charging upburnit
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as for the
Mental illness and solar spikes are well-documented

post just check the red pins glp or headline news
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Who red pinned this thread?
wtf
Now the shills will fly here.
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We all need to unpin it
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why you dont want people coming in here reading and learning?
thats kinda selfish of you
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they cray cray. this is a great pin.
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[link to www.solarham.net]

Temp on the rise now
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here is the direct link to ALL ACE plots
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protons are rising a lot! [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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I've got a question. If this proton storm isn't from the flare how can the protons reach us this fast from the CME. Being dense in nature this would have to be plasmatic nuceii hittiing us, that should take days with the speed of this CME. Proton absorption is within 8 seconds after the flare, but a storm of this magnitude has to be plasmatic?

There is something strange with the events from today, charts all screwy, SO is talking about a gamma burst from our sun and now this immediate proton storm. Just thinking out loud!Peace all
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These be auspicious times
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the atmosphere feels like it's charging upburnit
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Thread: GOES-13 sattelite is down!!!!!!


GOES-13 suffered an anomaly overnight: the satellite is no longer pointed towards the Earth for as yet unknown reasons. The anomaly started at 03:40 UTC on 22 May, and at 04:29 UTC, GOES-West (GOES-15) began a 30-minute full disk scan schedule.

GOES-14, in standby mode at 105.5 W longitude, has been activated; the first images from GOES-14 will be available at 05:00 UTC 23 May. There are no plans now to move GOES-14 from its current position.
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[link to cimss.ssec.wisc.edu]

bolded above in other words: 14 will not cover a significant portion of the eastern atlantic (13 is typically positioned at 75W to cover entire atlantic)

Subject: Product Outage/Anomaly: GOES-13 (GOES-East)
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Subject: Product Outage/Anomaly: GOES-13 (GOES-East) [Latest Update]
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Heads up, this monitors east coast and solar activity
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wow. that scientist was just talking about an east coast tsunami somehow related to a solar eventdamnedand the sun is acting kinda crazy right now..
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You would think ISWA would be quick to update on this one.

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