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SOLAR WATCH * 312 M & 25 X FLARES starting 3-7-2011 (Updated Daily)

 
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[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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my speakers went NUTS.. lots of feedback!

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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Can anyone explain what just happened?? I thought it was something huge because of the interference through my speakers..?
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[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]


Needles not working on ACE

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that might not be working, but ACE is still working
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

solar wind speed is fluctuating a lot between around 270 & 490
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Thanks for all the great links and info.
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hf
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protons are rising a lot! [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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Wow what's going on here?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21765116


going vertical now!!!
 Quoting: Luisport


[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]


dead3
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Oh my god!!! What kind of eruption was this.
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The following messages give you information about NOAA's satellite operations:

*Update#8: *GOES-13 has been placed into storage mode while the anomaly
is investigated. There is no new information or estimated return to
service at this time.

GOES-14 imaging should be available starting at approximately 0600 UTC
on May 23, 2013. The imager will start up in a recovery mode,
which has reduced sectors so that additional star calibrations can be taken.
Until this is complete, the imagery should not be considered within
normal tolerance for navigation. Transition to the normal routine
schedule (or RSO if requested) should take place at approximately 1400
UTC on May 23rd from its current location at 105 degrees West. The
ingest and distribution channels of GOES-East data have not been
changed, so the satepsdist ADDE servers will automatically receive
GOES-14 data. Regarding GOES-East GVAR, users will need to repoint
their antennas to GOES-14 at 105 degrees West in order to receive the
GOES-14 GVAR broadcast data stream. GOES-14 GVAR will not be
transmitted through GOES-13 channels while GOES-13 recovery efforts
continue. Since the recovery schedule is presently unknown, users
should consider their near-term needs against the efforts required to
repoint to GOES-14.
Complete information is here:
[link to www.ssd.noaa.gov]

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wtfwtf
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Wow what's going on here?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21765116


going vertical now!!!
 Quoting: Luisport


[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]


dead3
 Quoting: Da fuq


Oh my god!!! What kind of eruption was this.
 Quoting: #Geomagnetic_Storm#


Say something Geo! What's going on?
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well I decided to go look, here is what SWPC had to say about the CH winds...

.24 hr Summary...
ACE data indicated minor changes in the solar wind flow. Speed ranged
from 380 to 499 km/s. IMF total field intensity (Bt) ranged from 1 to 6
nT. IMF Bz was variable in the 4/-5 nT range. Phi data indicated an away
(+) solar sector orientation during most of the period until
approximately 22/0200 UTC when it changed to a toward (-) orientation.

.Forecast...
Solar wind speed is expected to gradually increase during 22 - 23 May a
a recurrent CH HSS becomes geoeffective. WSA-Enlil model runs predict
peak speeds around 500 km/s with this CH HSS. Wind speed is expected to
remain enhanced on 24 May.

.Forecast...
Geomagnetic field activity is expected to increase to quiet to unsettled
levels on 22 May
as a recurrent CH HSS becomes geoeffective. A further
increase to unsettled to active levels is expected on 23 May as the CH
HSS intensifies
. Activity is expected to decrease to quiet to unsettled
levels on 24 May as CH HSS effects subside.
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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well I decided to go look, here is what SWPC had to say about the CH winds...

.24 hr Summary...
ACE data indicated minor changes in the solar wind flow. Speed ranged
from 380 to 499 km/s. IMF total field intensity (Bt) ranged from 1 to 6
nT. IMF Bz was variable in the 4/-5 nT range. Phi data indicated an away
(+) solar sector orientation during most of the period until
approximately 22/0200 UTC when it changed to a toward (-) orientation.

.Forecast...
Solar wind speed is expected to gradually increase during 22 - 23 May a
a recurrent CH HSS becomes geoeffective. WSA-Enlil model runs predict
peak speeds around 500 km/s with this CH HSS. Wind speed is expected to
remain enhanced on 24 May.

.Forecast...
Geomagnetic field activity is expected to increase to quiet to unsettled
levels on 22 May
as a recurrent CH HSS becomes geoeffective. A further
increase to unsettled to active levels is expected on 23 May as the CH
HSS intensifies
. Activity is expected to decrease to quiet to unsettled
levels on 24 May as CH HSS effects subside.
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
 Quoting: NiNzrez


Not that I understand all that you stated, but I'll staudy. Thanks for the update. You're awesome. hf
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going vertical now!!!
 Quoting: Luisport


[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]


dead3
 Quoting: Da fuq


Oh my god!!! What kind of eruption was this.
 Quoting: #Geomagnetic_Storm#


Say something Geo! What's going on?
 Quoting: UntiltheNextLife


No one really knows at the moment. A lot of things going on at once
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Oh my god!!! What kind of eruption was this.
 Quoting: #Geomagnetic_Storm#


Say something Geo! What's going on?
 Quoting: UntiltheNextLife


No one really knows at the moment. A lot of things going on at once
 Quoting: Da fuq

Yep an with goes 13 down as well its a tad mental
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Enil is updated now
[link to www.solarham.net]
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I've got a question. If this proton storm isn't from the flare how can the protons reach us this fast from the CME. Being dense in nature this would have to be plasmatic nuceii hittiing us, that should take days with the speed of this CME. Proton absorption is within 8 seconds after the flare, but a storm of this magnitude has to be plasmatic?

There is something strange with the events from today, charts all screwy, SO is talking about a gamma burst from our sun and now this immediate proton storm. Just thinking out loud!Peace all
 Quoting: shadasonic


Solar energetic particles
Solar energetic particles can originate from two processes: 1. energetization at a solar-flare site or
2. by shock waves associated with coronal mass ejections (CMEs).
Two main mechanisms of acceleration are possible: diffusive shock acceleration (DSA, sometimes referred as first-order Fermi acceleration) or shock-drift mechanism. SEPs can be accelerated to energies of several tens of MeV within 5-10 solar radii (0.05% of the Sun–Earth distance) and can reach Earth in a matter of a few hours after a flare or an ejection. This makes prediction and warning of SEP events quite challenging


Solar Energetic Particles (SEPs) are high-energy particles coming from the Sun which had been first observed in the early 1940s. They consist of protons, electrons and heavy ions with energy ranging from a few tens of keV to GeV (the fastest particles can reach speed up to 80% of the speed of light). They are of particular interest and importance because they can endanger life in outer space (especially particles above 40 MeV). SEPs can originate from two processes: energetization at a solar flare site or by shock waves associated with Coronal Mass Ejection (CMEs). However, only about 1% of the CMEs produce strong SEP events.
[link to web.physics.udel.edu]

SOLAR ENERGETIC PARTICLE EVENTS AND ASSOCIATED SHOCKS IN THE INTERPLANETARY MEDIUM
[link to www.am.ub.edu]

The dependence of solar energetic proton (SEP) event peak intensities Ip on properties of associated coronal mass ejections (CMEs) has been extensively examined, but the dependence of SEP event timescales is not well known. We define three timescales of 20 MeV SEP events and ask how they are related to speeds v CME or widths W of their associated CMEs observed by LASCO/SOHO. The timescales of the EPACT/Wind 20 MeV events are TO, the onset time from CME launch to SEP onset; TR, the rise time from onset to half the peak intensity (0.5Ip); and TD, the duration of the SEP intensity above 0.5Ip. This is a statistical study based on 217 SEP-CME events observed during 1996-2008
[link to iopscience.iop.org]
 Quoting: NiNzrez


SEP event, excellent info Nin!
I thought it would have been a wave pushing gathered protons, but couldn't find the info I needed!

rahrah Nin to the rescue!
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Holy s... If the suntards can't tell us what's up.. I think I'll be opening a bottle of wine tonight. Cheers.. drunk
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 Quoting: Da fuq


Oh my god!!! What kind of eruption was this.
 Quoting: #Geomagnetic_Storm#


Say something Geo! What's going on?
 Quoting: UntiltheNextLife


No one really knows at the moment. A lot of things going on at once
 Quoting: Da fuq


yes we do
we have talked for the last 3 pages about it
there was a CME off the western limb that was associated with a M5 solar flare that induced a solar particle event
the rise in protons is the result
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I've got a question. If this proton storm isn't from the flare how can the protons reach us this fast from the CME. Being dense in nature this would have to be plasmatic nuceii hittiing us, that should take days with the speed of this CME. Proton absorption is within 8 seconds after the flare, but a storm of this magnitude has to be plasmatic?

There is something strange with the events from today, charts all screwy, SO is talking about a gamma burst from our sun and now this immediate proton storm. Just thinking out loud!Peace all
 Quoting: shadasonic


Solar energetic particles
Solar energetic particles can originate from two processes: 1. energetization at a solar-flare site or
2. by shock waves associated with coronal mass ejections (CMEs).
Two main mechanisms of acceleration are possible: diffusive shock acceleration (DSA, sometimes referred as first-order Fermi acceleration) or shock-drift mechanism. SEPs can be accelerated to energies of several tens of MeV within 5-10 solar radii (0.05% of the Sun–Earth distance) and can reach Earth in a matter of a few hours after a flare or an ejection. This makes prediction and warning of SEP events quite challenging


Solar Energetic Particles (SEPs) are high-energy particles coming from the Sun which had been first observed in the early 1940s. They consist of protons, electrons and heavy ions with energy ranging from a few tens of keV to GeV (the fastest particles can reach speed up to 80% of the speed of light). They are of particular interest and importance because they can endanger life in outer space (especially particles above 40 MeV). SEPs can originate from two processes: energetization at a solar flare site or by shock waves associated with Coronal Mass Ejection (CMEs). However, only about 1% of the CMEs produce strong SEP events.
[link to web.physics.udel.edu]

SOLAR ENERGETIC PARTICLE EVENTS AND ASSOCIATED SHOCKS IN THE INTERPLANETARY MEDIUM
[link to www.am.ub.edu]

The dependence of solar energetic proton (SEP) event peak intensities Ip on properties of associated coronal mass ejections (CMEs) has been extensively examined, but the dependence of SEP event timescales is not well known. We define three timescales of 20 MeV SEP events and ask how they are related to speeds v CME or widths W of their associated CMEs observed by LASCO/SOHO. The timescales of the EPACT/Wind 20 MeV events are TO, the onset time from CME launch to SEP onset; TR, the rise time from onset to half the peak intensity (0.5Ip); and TD, the duration of the SEP intensity above 0.5Ip. This is a statistical study based on 217 SEP-CME events observed during 1996-2008
[link to iopscience.iop.org]
 Quoting: NiNzrez


SEP event, excellent info Nin!
I thought it would have been a wave pushing gathered protons, but couldn't find the info I needed!

rahrah Nin to the rescue!
 Quoting: shadasonic


hf
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Oh my god!!! What kind of eruption was this.
 Quoting: #Geomagnetic_Storm#


Say something Geo! What's going on?
 Quoting: UntiltheNextLife


No one really knows at the moment. A lot of things going on at once
 Quoting: Da fuq


yes we do
we have talked for the last 3 pages about it
there was a CME off the western limb that was associated with a M5 solar flare that induced a solar particle event
the rise in protons is the result
 Quoting: NiNzrez


This was a bigger event that I thought.
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oh pooper.sss your thread is heading to 1999 3rd thread to do so and with all the sun activity it will get there quick...

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I just made the above thread. Need to vent - feel free!!!
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[link to spaceweather.com]
looks like an outer space snow storm!

and this CME will come right after a strong impact of solar wind.

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
a good video editor can make anyone say anything the editor wants.
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Oh my god!!! What kind of eruption was this.
 Quoting: #Geomagnetic_Storm#


Say something Geo! What's going on?
 Quoting: UntiltheNextLife


No one really knows at the moment. A lot of things going on at once
 Quoting: Da fuq


yes we do
we have talked for the last 3 pages about it
there was a CME off the western limb that was associated with a M5 solar flare that induced a solar particle event
the rise in protons is the result
 Quoting: NiNzrez


Thank you for stating the obvious, it was in regards to the multiple instruments going down during the event.



[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

GOes is still down, and if you browse the SDO data half the western limb lights up.




I mean correct me if i'm wrong, do normal M class flares and the following CME's knock out GOES and a few others momentarily often?

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Holy s... If the suntards can't tell us what's up.. I think I'll be opening a bottle of wine tonight. Cheers.. drunk
 Quoting: UntiltheNextLife


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In on page with meaning
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The Electrons just took a dive.

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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Holy s... If the suntards can't tell us what's up.. I think I'll be opening a bottle of wine tonight. Cheers.. drunk
 Quoting: UntiltheNextLife


tommywingy
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


I'm way ahead of you. Not solar related though lol

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Here is the Cactus movie of the CME event:
[link to www.sidc.oma.be]
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Holy s... If the suntards can't tell us what's up.. I think I'll be opening a bottle of wine tonight. Cheers.. drunk
 Quoting: UntiltheNextLife


tommywingy
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


oh you were going to do that anyway!
do check out the planets at sunset!


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it goes well with wine!

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Here is the Cactus movie of the CME event:
[link to www.sidc.oma.be]
[link to www.sidc.oma.be]
 Quoting: joinca


I dont think those are from today's CME.

Here's the one from today:

:cme522.1::cme522.2::cme522.3::m.5f:

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[link to www.sidc.oma.be]
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The Electrons just took a dive.

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
 Quoting: Dettro


I've literally been lurking on this thread for most of the last 8 hrs trying to learn as much as possible. I'm definitely feeling more educated than I was earlier. Much thanks to all of you, especially OP, for providing links and updates and commentary to this event. Being that this has been a nearly shill-free environment, I'd have to say the whole gang knows their shit and I have mad respect for all of you!

I'm still hungry for knowledge so can you tell me what the electrons going down could mean?

Thanks to all once again! Peace!!!
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