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SOLAR WATCH * 312 M & 25 X FLARES starting 3-7-2011 (Updated Daily)

 
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Whoa on the 2003. This the same time that there was the power grid failure in CAnada?
 Quoting: whiteangel


March 13, 1989
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
[link to www.nasa.gov]

here are the readings for March 1989
[link to ars.els-cdn.com]
 Quoting: NiNzrez


August 14, 2003, just before 4:10 p.m. EDT (UTC−04)
[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
 Quoting: whiteangel


ahh ok I thought you ment the Quebec blackout
 Quoting: NiNzrez


The Electrons just took a dive.

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
 Quoting: Dettro


Brought Nin's post up with the archive data, compare today's electron chart to 2003

Sorry, wrong data, let me go find the post before this one.

Last Edited by Isis One on 05/23/2013 12:35 AM
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Here is the 2003 data.


protons at GOES are spiking pretty hard...
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
who wants to take bets that we may even see a S4 event??
we 'usually' see the protons rise for at least 24hrs after an event
see here for the last event we had just days back
[link to sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net]

here is a image of the proton flux from a S4+ into a S5 proton event that we had back in 2003
[link to sidc.oma.be]
this gives a good idea on how high and fast the proton level can rise and over what period of time
 Quoting: NiNzrez


S4 event??hidingall I know is this is bigger than Nasa is reporting , or something did go wrongabduct
 Quoting: Goofy for God


what is it that you think is bigger than reported?
not the flare, cause the proton event is from the CME
you know better than a lot of people that we see CMEs with no flare at all
and some of those CMEs cause quite big events
the flare happened as reported and is over with
all we are seeing now is from the CME that was associated with the flare
maybe I have missed report? but I don't see any nasa reports as of yet on this CME
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Here is the Cactus movie of the CME event:
[link to www.sidc.oma.be]
[link to www.sidc.oma.be]
 Quoting: joinca


Why is date showing 5-21-13?
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Here is the Cactus movie of the CME event:
[link to www.sidc.oma.be]
[link to www.sidc.oma.be]
 Quoting: joinca


I dont think those are from today's CME.

Here's the one from today:

:cme522.1::cme522.2::cme522.3::m.5f:

[link to www.sidc.oma.be]
[link to www.sidc.oma.be]
 Quoting: Dettro


Thanks!!
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The Electrons just took a dive.

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
 Quoting: Dettro


I've literally been lurking on this thread for most of the last 8 hrs trying to learn as much as possible. I'm definitely feeling more educated than I was earlier. Much thanks to all of you, especially OP, for providing links and updates and commentary to this event. Being that this has been a nearly shill-free environment, I'd have to say the whole gang knows their shit and I have mad respect for all of you!

I'm still hungry for knowledge so can you tell me what the electrons going down could mean?

Thanks to all once again! Peace!!!
 Quoting: Clovis


Here's a good read on how to read the Electron Page.

[link to n5pa.com]
 Quoting: Dettro


This is from that link. Does this mean these readings aren't good?

"This data is invalid during a significant proton event because of sensor contamination at the GOES spacecraft".
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protons are rising a lot! [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
 Quoting: Luisport


Wow what's going on here?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21765116


going vertical now!!!
 Quoting: Luisport


looking like that 2003 event Nin posted earlier.
 Quoting: Isis One


ahh someone find that post..?
I looked and we posted so much I cant fint it :(
I would like to re quote it so the night crew can find it a bit easier, for reference

this will continue to rise over the next 24hrs or so
we are looking at a big SEP event
I said earlier "how many want to take bets this goes to a S4 or maybe even a S5 by tomorrow night?"


we have now reached the S3 threshold


Issue Time: 2013 May 23 0348 UTC

ALERT: Proton Event 10MeV Integral Flux exceeded 1000pfu
Begin Time: 2013 May 23 0330 UTC
NOAA Scale: S3 - Strong
Potential Impacts: Radiation - Passengers and crew in high latitude, high altitude flights may experience increasing radiation exposures. Astronauts on EVA (extra-vehicular activity) are exposed to elevated radiation levels.
Spacecraft - Single-event upsets to satellite operations, noise in imaging systems, and slight reduction of efficiency in solar panels are likely.
Radio - Degraded or episodically blacked-out polar HF (high frequency) radio propagation.
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]



Issue Time: 2013 May 23 0258 UTC

ALERT: Electron 2MeV Integral Flux exceeded 1000pfu
Threshold Reached: 2013 May 23 0240 UTC
Station: GOES-15
Potential Impacts: Satellite systems may experience significant charging resulting in increased risk to satellite systems.
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

ACE data is likely corrupt because they did not close off the sensors when todays SEP event began

the protons hit the sensors, and makes the sensors give incorrect readings
sad, but ACE is very old and years beyond what it was expected to stay working for us
any data we get from ACE is by luck
but when these proton events hit the wide open sensors it really messes them up
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
 Quoting: NiNzrez


that being said
if the proton and electron sensors were not corrupted, and they do not appear to be, we have a rise in high energy protons
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
a rise in low energy protons (they show if a CME is on its way to earth)
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
and a rise in low energy electrons
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]


we are currently just below the S3 solar radiation storm threshold
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
the S3 level should be breached sometime in the coming hours

here is the NOAA scale info for a S3 solar radiation Storm

S 3 - Strong

Biological: unavoidable radiation hazard to astronauts on EVA; passengers and crew in high-flying aircraft at high latitudes may be exposed to radiation risk.***

Satellite operations: may experience memory device problems and noise on imaging systems; star-tracker problems may cause orientation problems, and solar panel efficiency can be degraded.

Other systems: blackout of HF radio communications through the polar regions and increased navigation errors over several days are likely.

Number of storm days of this level per solar cycle:
10
 Quoting: NiNzrez


[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Yes indeed , got some action, was waiting for this. You think we'll hit S4 Nin. After going through your post on the Seps and looking through old info I believe we may get that second snowplow hit also. We MAY see those secondary waves come in strong.
Old SOl is making things interesting, much fun as this is completely different than the flip I expected. I think we may hit the start of a new minimum next year, this one has some suprises left. You just never truly know, thats the beautifull interest.Peace all!
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Wow what's going on here?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21765116


going vertical now!!!
 Quoting: Luisport


looking like that 2003 event Nin posted earlier.
 Quoting: Isis One


ahh someone find that post..?
I looked and we posted so much I cant fint it :(
I would like to re quote it so the night crew can find it a bit easier, for reference

this will continue to rise over the next 24hrs or so
we are looking at a big SEP event
I said earlier "how many want to take bets this goes to a S4 or maybe even a S5 by tomorrow night?"


we have now reached the S3 threshold


Issue Time: 2013 May 23 0348 UTC

ALERT: Proton Event 10MeV Integral Flux exceeded 1000pfu
Begin Time: 2013 May 23 0330 UTC
NOAA Scale: S3 - Strong
Potential Impacts: Radiation - Passengers and crew in high latitude, high altitude flights may experience increasing radiation exposures. Astronauts on EVA (extra-vehicular activity) are exposed to elevated radiation levels.
Spacecraft - Single-event upsets to satellite operations, noise in imaging systems, and slight reduction of efficiency in solar panels are likely.
Radio - Degraded or episodically blacked-out polar HF (high frequency) radio propagation.
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]



Issue Time: 2013 May 23 0258 UTC

ALERT: Electron 2MeV Integral Flux exceeded 1000pfu
Threshold Reached: 2013 May 23 0240 UTC
Station: GOES-15
Potential Impacts: Satellite systems may experience significant charging resulting in increased risk to satellite systems.
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

ACE data is likely corrupt because they did not close off the sensors when todays SEP event began

the protons hit the sensors, and makes the sensors give incorrect readings
sad, but ACE is very old and years beyond what it was expected to stay working for us
any data we get from ACE is by luck
but when these proton events hit the wide open sensors it really messes them up
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
 Quoting: NiNzrez


that being said
if the proton and electron sensors were not corrupted, and they do not appear to be, we have a rise in high energy protons
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
a rise in low energy protons (they show if a CME is on its way to earth)
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
and a rise in low energy electrons
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]


we are currently just below the S3 solar radiation storm threshold
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
the S3 level should be breached sometime in the coming hours

here is the NOAA scale info for a S3 solar radiation Storm

S 3 - Strong

Biological: unavoidable radiation hazard to astronauts on EVA; passengers and crew in high-flying aircraft at high latitudes may be exposed to radiation risk.***

Satellite operations: may experience memory device problems and noise on imaging systems; star-tracker problems may cause orientation problems, and solar panel efficiency can be degraded.

Other systems: blackout of HF radio communications through the polar regions and increased navigation errors over several days are likely.

Number of storm days of this level per solar cycle:
10
 Quoting: NiNzrez


[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Yes indeed , got some action, was waiting for this. You think we'll hit S4 Nin. After going through your post on the Seps and looking through old info I believe we may get that second snowplow hit also. We MAY see those secondary waves come in strong.
Old SOl is making things interesting, much fun as this is completely different than the flip I expected. I think we may hit the start of a new minimum next year, this one has some suprises left. You just never truly know, thats the beautifull interest.Peace all!
 Quoting: shadasonic

 Quoting: NiNzrez


I say S5.
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wow, to see so many lurkers come out and say hi today just puts a huge smile on my face :)
we know your all here when we look at the page views, but to see you pop in and give a shout is great!

so glad to have you all here with us on this journey we share together
much love and respect to everyone here
hf
 Quoting: NiNzrez


Hi from yet another lurker. I have been viewing the thread for some time now but never commented. I have learned so much and thank you! I certainly could never carry on a conversation on this topic with you "pros" but I know the terminology now and I could probably dazzle a total novice. haha! That is progress. THANKS!
 Quoting: livnlife2day


that is awesome to hear!!
hf
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Here is the 2003 data.


protons at GOES are spiking pretty hard...
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
who wants to take bets that we may even see a S4 event??
we 'usually' see the protons rise for at least 24hrs after an event
see here for the last event we had just days back
[link to sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net]

here is a image of the proton flux from a S4+ into a S5 proton event that we had back in 2003
[link to sidc.oma.be]
this gives a good idea on how high and fast the proton level can rise and over what period of time
 Quoting: NiNzrez


S4 event??hidingall I know is this is bigger than Nasa is reporting , or something did go wrongabduct
 Quoting: Goofy for God


what is it that you think is bigger than reported?
not the flare, cause the proton event is from the CME
you know better than a lot of people that we see CMEs with no flare at all
and some of those CMEs cause quite big events
the flare happened as reported and is over with
all we are seeing now is from the CME that was associated with the flare
maybe I have missed report? but I don't see any nasa reports as of yet on this CME
 Quoting: NiNzrez

 Quoting: Isis One


hey you found it.. thank you! :)
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Thank you so much for informing us, I really appreciate the intelligent people on GLP. You guys really know your stuff. This thread makes up for the really lame ones. Thanks for keeping us informed. Today really frightened me, not sure if this fear is legitimate or not but definitely going to continue to follow this thread. :)
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Many of us (ME) discussed this aspect of today's events on this thread. It might help.

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The Electrons just took a dive.

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
 Quoting: Dettro


I've literally been lurking on this thread for most of the last 8 hrs trying to learn as much as possible. I'm definitely feeling more educated than I was earlier. Much thanks to all of you, especially OP, for providing links and updates and commentary to this event. Being that this has been a nearly shill-free environment, I'd have to say the whole gang knows their shit and I have mad respect for all of you!

I'm still hungry for knowledge so can you tell me what the electrons going down could mean?

Thanks to all once again! Peace!!!
 Quoting: Clovis


Here's a good read on how to read the Electron Page.

[link to n5pa.com]
 Quoting: Dettro


This is from that link. Does this mean these readings aren't good?

"This data is invalid during a significant proton event because of sensor contamination at the GOES spacecraft".
 Quoting: Isis One


correct
its a big guessing game when there is a large SEP event in progress, like there is right now
those proton particles really do a job on those sensors
they are quite sensitive
if they are not put into 'stand by mode' the sek the operators suspect we are having a large proton event, then they are bombarded with the particles and then give out incorrect readings due to corruption

this is when having and knowing of the 'off the norm' links for readings comes into play a bit more to know exactly whats going on

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[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Finally dipped back into B

That was a hell of an event.
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Yes it was, to me personally, nothing will ever be the same again (in a wonderous way, with more of the same to come).
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can someone help me out
where is SC?
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He's OK, dropped in yesterday (Tues) briefly, day before that as well. Week or two ago, left a cryptic message about time not being his or something right now. I asked for clarification, none given, unless I missed it. But he seems fine, just not around much.
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going vertical now!!!
 Quoting: Luisport


looking like that 2003 event Nin posted earlier.
 Quoting: Isis One


ahh someone find that post..?
I looked and we posted so much I cant fint it :(
I would like to re quote it so the night crew can find it a bit easier, for reference

this will continue to rise over the next 24hrs or so
we are looking at a big SEP event
I said earlier "how many want to take bets this goes to a S4 or maybe even a S5 by tomorrow night?"


we have now reached the S3 threshold


Issue Time: 2013 May 23 0348 UTC

ALERT: Proton Event 10MeV Integral Flux exceeded 1000pfu
Begin Time: 2013 May 23 0330 UTC
NOAA Scale: S3 - Strong
Potential Impacts: Radiation - Passengers and crew in high latitude, high altitude flights may experience increasing radiation exposures. Astronauts on EVA (extra-vehicular activity) are exposed to elevated radiation levels.
Spacecraft - Single-event upsets to satellite operations, noise in imaging systems, and slight reduction of efficiency in solar panels are likely.
Radio - Degraded or episodically blacked-out polar HF (high frequency) radio propagation.
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]



...


that being said
if the proton and electron sensors were not corrupted, and they do not appear to be, we have a rise in high energy protons
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
a rise in low energy protons (they show if a CME is on its way to earth)
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
and a rise in low energy electrons
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]


we are currently just below the S3 solar radiation storm threshold
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
the S3 level should be breached sometime in the coming hours

here is the NOAA scale info for a S3 solar radiation Storm

S 3 - Strong

Biological: unavoidable radiation hazard to astronauts on EVA; passengers and crew in high-flying aircraft at high latitudes may be exposed to radiation risk.***

Satellite operations: may experience memory device problems and noise on imaging systems; star-tracker problems may cause orientation problems, and solar panel efficiency can be degraded.

Other systems: blackout of HF radio communications through the polar regions and increased navigation errors over several days are likely.

Number of storm days of this level per solar cycle:
10
 Quoting: NiNzrez


[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Yes indeed , got some action, was waiting for this. You think we'll hit S4 Nin. After going through your post on the Seps and looking through old info I believe we may get that second snowplow hit also. We MAY see those secondary waves come in strong.
Old SOl is making things interesting, much fun as this is completely different than the flip I expected. I think we may hit the start of a new minimum next year, this one has some suprises left. You just never truly know, thats the beautifull interest.Peace all!
 Quoting: shadasonic

 Quoting: NiNzrez


I say S5.
 Quoting: #Geomagnetic_Storm#


its for sure possible
the event happened just over 12 hrs ago and we have seen a proton rise this high already
and they will continue to rise

Energetic Particle

.24 hr Summary...
The greater than 10 MeV and greater than 100 MeV proton flux at
geosynchronous orbit reached event levels in the wake of the M5/3n
flare. The greater than 10 MeV proton event reached the S1 (Minor) event
threshold at 22/1420 UTC and reached the S2 (Moderate) threshold at
22/1730 UTC. The greater than 100 MeV proton flux reached event
threshold (1 pfu) at 22/1455 UTC. Thus far, the peak greater than 100
MeV flux has been 3 pfu at 22/1830 UTC. The greater than 2 MeV electron
flux at geosynchronous orbit was at normal to moderate levels.

.Forecast...
The greater than 10 MeV proton flux at geosynchronous orbit is expected
to remain at event levels during 23 - 24 May and is likely to reach
event levels on 25 May
.
The greater than 2 MeV electron flux at
geosynchronous orbit is expected to be at normal to moderate levels on
23 May, then increase to moderate to high levels on 24 - 25 May in
response to a recurrent coronal hole high-speed stream (CH HSS).
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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I've just accepted that this solar business is not my specialty and never will be.... So I lurk and try and decipher the foreign terminology that you folks communicate with and then I just gauge emotional reactions of your posts to ascertain the severity of the events. : )

xmit
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


haha I had to laugh at this one
"ok... scanning page for terms.. wtf.. omg... were screwed...
 Quoting: NiNzrez



Well if you check the WISE GOES SOHO feed on the East limb you've got some elevated proton flux prominences forming coupled with a reverse polarity bz configuration and elevated delta beta gamma regions showing up on the x-ray choronograph.


tantrum
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


you're hysterical, if you did that yourself, I'm impressed.
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can someone help me out
where is SC?
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He now gets Spanked for being on too much,by his gf(I think that't what he was trying to say). Also he said someone was trying to impersonate him here on GLP.
 Quoting: Dettro


oh, see, I missed that! tx.
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Ecuador warns satellite could hit rocket remains - May 22, 2013
An Ecuadoran satellite launched last month could collide with the remains of a Russian rocket in the coming hours, the country's civilian space agency warned Wednesday.
The "Pegaso" (Pegasus) nanosatellite, designed and built in Ecuador, set off aboard an unmanned rocket April 25 from the Jiuquand station in northern China. It is the country's first.
The full article is here: [link to www.spacemart.com]
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wow, to see so many lurkers come out and say hi today just puts a huge smile on my face :)
we know your all here when we look at the page views, but to see you pop in and give a shout is great!

so glad to have you all here with us on this journey we share together
much love and respect to everyone here
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Thanks Nin, you really Rock the Whole Kazbah with this thread, uniting all the world. Namaste!
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I've literally been lurking on this thread for most of the last 8 hrs trying to learn as much as possible. I'm definitely feeling more educated than I was earlier. Much thanks to all of you, especially OP, for providing links and updates and commentary to this event. Being that this has been a nearly shill-free environment, I'd have to say the whole gang knows their shit and I have mad respect for all of you!

I'm still hungry for knowledge so can you tell me what the electrons going down could mean?

Thanks to all once again! Peace!!!
 Quoting: Clovis


I've been lurking 8 hours a day for a year and still don't get it. Talk about solar density.

I agree Clovis. Have to just sit back in awe, listen and learn. Good people.
 Quoting: Serendipitous


Remember to always ask questions. I am still learning and I wouldn't understand some things without asking for clarification! Sometimes you think you understand something only to find out you only understood part of it.
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 Quoting: whiteangel


i think the electrons coming down means the field of charged particles detensified... after a while... on our corrents of energys... traveling inner and out our magnetosphere... from M waves... and also may be from another place in space... like taurus constelation emited yesterday a big burst of energy...

my 5 cents ... i hope im not saiyn anything grotesc


any help?

))))
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39790161


Yes, I think that is a really good point about the Gamma ray burst from Taurus and like SO said hard to tell if maybe it came from the sun OR it popped thru the sun on its way here and the sun magnified it. (forget the technical name for this, Birkland currents maybe?
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wow, to see so many lurkers come out and say hi today just puts a huge smile on my face :)
we know your all here when we look at the page views, but to see you pop in and give a shout is great!

so glad to have you all here with us on this journey we share together
much love and respect to everyone here
hf
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Thanks Nin, you really Rock the Whole Kazbah with this thread, uniting all the world. Namaste!
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hey, the way I see it, is if we can inform even 1 person and help them to understand what is/has been going on with the sun, and in the process calm them some with knowledge and understanding
then we have all done a job well done and it makes it all worth it :)
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wow, to see so many lurkers come out and say hi today just puts a huge smile on my face :)
we know your all here when we look at the page views, but to see you pop in and give a shout is great!

so glad to have you all here with us on this journey we share together
much love and respect to everyone here
hf
 Quoting: NiNzrez


Thanks Nin, you really Rock the Whole Kazbah with this thread, uniting all the world. Namaste!
 Quoting: Isis One


hey, the way I see it, is if we can inform even 1 person and help them to understand what is/has been going on with the sun, and in the process calm them some with knowledge and understanding
then we have all done a job well done and it makes it all worth it :)
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Well, I would say, Mission Accomplished.
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I've been lurking 8 hours a day for a year and still don't get it. Talk about solar density.

I agree Clovis. Have to just sit back in awe, listen and learn. Good people.
 Quoting: Serendipitous


Remember to always ask questions. I am still learning and I wouldn't understand some things without asking for clarification! Sometimes you think you understand something only to find out you only understood part of it.
Love and Blessings hf
 Quoting: whiteangel


i think the electrons coming down means the field of charged particles detensified... after a while... on our corrents of energys... traveling inner and out our magnetosphere... from M waves... and also may be from another place in space... like taurus constelation emited yesterday a big burst of energy...

my 5 cents ... i hope im not saiyn anything grotesc


any help?

))))
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39790161


Yes, I think that is a really good point about the Gamma ray burst from Taurus and like SO said hard to tell if maybe it came from the sun OR it popped thru the sun on its way here and the sun magnified it. (forget the technical name for this, Birkland currents maybe?
 Quoting: Isis One


we will not be able to tell if it was from our sun for at least a few months after data has been gone over and over and over again
then a report will come out
or at least that's what they have done in the past :/

as for the electrons and protons, they are all still on the rise with none dropping just yet
this should be the case into tomorrow at the earliest

Electrons at ACE (still rising)
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Low energy protons at ACE (still rising)
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

high energy protons at ACE (leveling out a bit while topped out)
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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Wow what's going on here?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21765116


going vertical now!!!
 Quoting: Luisport


looking like that 2003 event Nin posted earlier.
 Quoting: Isis One


ahh someone find that post..?
I looked and we posted so much I cant fint it :(
I would like to re quote it so the night crew can find it a bit easier, for reference

this will continue to rise over the next 24hrs or so
we are looking at a big SEP event
I said earlier "how many want to take bets this goes to a S4 or maybe even a S5 by tomorrow night?"


we have now reached the S3 threshold


Issue Time: 2013 May 23 0348 UTC

ALERT: Proton Event 10MeV Integral Flux exceeded 1000pfu
Begin Time: 2013 May 23 0330 UTC
NOAA Scale: S3 - Strong
Potential Impacts: Radiation - Passengers and crew in high latitude, high altitude flights may experience increasing radiation exposures. Astronauts on EVA (extra-vehicular activity) are exposed to elevated radiation levels.
Spacecraft - Single-event upsets to satellite operations, noise in imaging systems, and slight reduction of efficiency in solar panels are likely.
Radio - Degraded or episodically blacked-out polar HF (high frequency) radio propagation.
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]



Issue Time: 2013 May 23 0258 UTC

ALERT: Electron 2MeV Integral Flux exceeded 1000pfu
Threshold Reached: 2013 May 23 0240 UTC
Station: GOES-15
Potential Impacts: Satellite systems may experience significant charging resulting in increased risk to satellite systems.
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

ACE data is likely corrupt because they did not close off the sensors when todays SEP event began

the protons hit the sensors, and makes the sensors give incorrect readings
sad, but ACE is very old and years beyond what it was expected to stay working for us
any data we get from ACE is by luck
but when these proton events hit the wide open sensors it really messes them up
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
 Quoting: NiNzrez


that being said
if the proton and electron sensors were not corrupted, and they do not appear to be, we have a rise in high energy protons
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
a rise in low energy protons (they show if a CME is on its way to earth)
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
and a rise in low energy electrons
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]


we are currently just below the S3 solar radiation storm threshold
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
the S3 level should be breached sometime in the coming hours

here is the NOAA scale info for a S3 solar radiation Storm

S 3 - Strong

Biological: unavoidable radiation hazard to astronauts on EVA; passengers and crew in high-flying aircraft at high latitudes may be exposed to radiation risk.***

Satellite operations: may experience memory device problems and noise on imaging systems; star-tracker problems may cause orientation problems, and solar panel efficiency can be degraded.

Other systems: blackout of HF radio communications through the polar regions and increased navigation errors over several days are likely.

Number of storm days of this level per solar cycle:
10
 Quoting: NiNzrez


[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Yes indeed , got some action, was waiting for this. You think we'll hit S4 Nin. After going through your post on the Seps and looking through old info I believe we may get that second snowplow hit also. We MAY see those secondary waves come in strong.
Old SOl is making things interesting, much fun as this is completely different than the flip I expected. I think we may hit the start of a new minimum next year, this one has some suprises left. You just never truly know, thats the beautifull interest.Peace all!
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 Quoting: NiNzrez


Issue Time: 2013 May 23 0509 UTC

CONTINUED ALERT: Electron 2MeV Integral Flux exceeded 1000pfu
Continuation of Serial Number: 2013
Begin Time: 2013 May 23 0240 UTC
Yesterday Maximum 2MeV Flux: 3950 pfu
Potential Impacts: Satellite systems may experience significant charging resulting in increased risk to satellite systems
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I've just accepted that this solar business is not my specialty and never will be.... So I lurk and try and decipher the foreign terminology that you folks communicate with and then I just gauge emotional reactions of your posts to ascertain the severity of the events. : )

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Ditto! But I can't stay away from this thread for long, just too compelling. Living and learning.
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hi suntards

any thoughts on this earth directed emission?

peace my friends
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Thank you so much for informing us, I really appreciate the intelligent people on GLP. You guys really know your stuff. This thread makes up for the really lame ones. Thanks for keeping us informed. Today really frightened me, not sure if this fear is legitimate or not but definitely going to continue to follow this thread. :)
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Amazing. My 84 year pitched an unusual mood this a.m. and said that something was wrong. I hadn't checked into all the sun activity yet but gave her all the reassurance that I could. Everyone is okay now. :)
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Was just looking at 1755 & 1756 and both appear to now be BGD with 1756 being the stronger of the two.
[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

If you look at 1756 here [link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov] it looks very dense.

What say you??
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Was just looking at 1755 & 1756 and both appear to now be BGD with 1756 being the stronger of the two.
[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

If you look at 1756 here [link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov] it looks very dense.

What say you??
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Becoming Complex as I can see.
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Absorption is up there.........
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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This is the highest i have Personally ever seen it go in the past year or 2 i have been lurking here. Bloody awesome!

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