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SOLAR WATCH * M2.4 Solar Flare July 14 2017! Earth directed CME (Updated Daily)

 
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That CME is even slower than I thought-

NOAA-24 hr Summary...
Solar activity was at low levels. The largest event of the period, a
C3/1f flare, erupted from Region 1817 (S21W24, Esc/beta) at 14/1655 UTC.
This region was also responsible for the majority of the other low level
C-class flares throughout the period. It continued to exhibit a
horizontal shear line, but also continued to show signs of decay. The
other spot groups were either stable or decaying. SDO imagery observed a
fairly extensive eruptive prominence that lifted off the southwest limb
at approximately 14/2145 UTC. Initial WSA Enlil analysis of Lasco and
STEREO imagery indicates the associated coronal mass ejection (CME) was
slow (~350 km/s) with the majority of the ejecta moving just south of
the ecliptic plane. Further analysis of this CME is ongoing
. No other
Earth-directed CMEs were observed throughout the period.
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]


A bright nova has appeared in the constellation Delphinus the dolphin. Article and finder charts here:

[link to www.skyandtelescope.com]

and here:

[link to www.spaceweather.com]
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Oh my god.....



[link to www.sidc.oma.be]
 Quoting: #Geomagnetic_Storm#


hiding
Job 37:13
He causes it to come,
Whether for correction,
Or for His land,
Or for mercy.(Read all of 37)
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Oh my god.....
[link to www.sidc.oma.be]
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Geomagnetic_Storm,

Is now when we run in circles and screaming "aaaaahhh ahhh we going to diee aahhhh" ??
#Geomagnetic_Storm#
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Oh my god.....
[link to www.sidc.oma.be]
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Geomagnetic_Storm,

Is now when we run in circles and screaming "aaaaahhh ahhh we going to diee aahhhh" ??
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Lol. No.
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Looks like a couple of filament channel explosions near 1817. Wait and see if we have another CME.

Big Bear H-alpha movie:

[link to halpha.nso.edu]

Solar wind speeds have exceeded 600 km/s today.

ACE SW data:

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

GOES Electron Flux:

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

EXTENDED WARNING: Geomagnetic K-index of 4 expected
Extension to Serial Number: 2152
Valid From: 2013 Aug 15 0230 UTC
Now Valid Until: 2013 Aug 16 0500 UTC
Warning Condition: Persistence

Potential Impacts: Area of impact primarily poleward of 65 degrees Geomagnetic Latitude.
Induced Currents - Weak power grid fluctuations can occur.
Aurora - Aurora may be visible at high latitudes such as Canada and Alaska.
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

More New Spots-
:8/15-newspots:

Latest HMI Intensitygram:
[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

Latest HMI Magnetogram:
[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

AR1818 is directly facing Earth now-
:8/15-1818mag:
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The C2.9 flare near the leading edge of 1817 looks to be a classic Hyder two-ribbon flare. A Radio Emission Alert was issued which may indicate a CME from this event.

ALERT: Type II Radio Emission
Begin Time: 2013 Aug 15 2217 UTC
Estimated Velocity: 1019 km/s
Description: Type II emissions occur in association with eruptions on the sun and typically indicate a coronal mass ejection is associated with a flare event.


[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

:8/15-hyder:

Also a large far-side CME was detected by STEREO Ahead cor 2:

[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

The ACE Low Energy Protons have been rising for most of the day:

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

farside
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Looks like a couple of filament channel explosions near 1817. Wait and see if we have another CME.

Big Bear H-alpha movie:

[link to halpha.nso.edu]

Solar wind speeds have exceeded 600 km/s today.

ACE SW data:

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

GOES Electron Flux:

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

EXTENDED WARNING: Geomagnetic K-index of 4 expected
Extension to Serial Number: 2152
Valid From: 2013 Aug 15 0230 UTC
Now Valid Until: 2013 Aug 16 0500 UTC
Warning Condition: Persistence

Potential Impacts: Area of impact primarily poleward of 65 degrees Geomagnetic Latitude.
Induced Currents - Weak power grid fluctuations can occur.
Aurora - Aurora may be visible at high latitudes such as Canada and Alaska.
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

More New Spots-
:8/15-newspots:

Latest HMI Intensitygram:
[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

Latest HMI Magnetogram:
[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

AR1818 is directly facing Earth now-
:8/15-1818mag:
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


A lot of filaments popping up and it looks like several are rounding the corner, interesting. Looks like we had a farside CME, decent size.

Good evening Hugh and all. Had a weird day , saw some of the lowest clouds I've ever seen , big fluffy cotton balls that seemed only 150 to 200' off the ground, kind of gave me a roof collapsing feel, seemed very strange

edit, guess I should have read before posting, nice catch on the farside event Hugh.
[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

Last Edited by Thinking out loud on 08/15/2013 09:06 PM
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There getting bigger. We've almost got full blown cave hieroglyphic-type plasma discharge events. This is from today's spaceweather.com page. soo cool.

[link to spaceweather.com]
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There getting bigger. We've almost got full blown cave hieroglyphic-type plasma discharge events. This is from today's spaceweather.com page. soo cool.

[link to spaceweather.com]
 Quoting: Isis One


Wow, thank you for posting the link! hf

Beautiful, but concerning.
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There getting bigger. We've almost got full blown cave hieroglyphic-type plasma discharge events. This is from today's spaceweather.com page. soo cool.

[link to spaceweather.com]
 Quoting: Isis One


Ahhhh, sprites are so cool!

rahrah
“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan
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Hi, sonic, Geo and all you lurkers, it seems that AR1817 has regained its delta, but 1818 has lost its gamma. Also new spots have been numbered.

Joint USAF/NOAA Solar Region Summary
SRS Number 228 Issued at 0030Z on 16 Aug 2013
Report compiled from data received at SWO on 15 Aug
I. Regions with Sunspots. Locations Valid at 15/2400Z
Nmbr Location Lo Area Z LL NN Mag Type
1817 S21W31 241 0260 Ekc 12 22 Beta-Gamma-Delta
1818 S07W07 217 0300 Dki 08 15 Beta

1819 S17W19 229 0020 Cao 05 06 Beta
1820 S13E31 179 0030 Cro 11 07 Beta
1821 N01W35 245 0010 Bxo 03 03 Beta
1822 S08E57 153 0030 Dao 07 05 Beta
1823 S07E72 138 0120 Hsx 02 01 Alpha


NOAA 24-hr. Summary (NOTE: the CME they refer to is yesterday's fat filament liftoff)-

Solar Activity

.24 hr Summary...
Solar activity was at low levels. The largest event of the period, a
C2/Sf flare, erupted from Region 1818 (S07W07, Dki/beta) at 15/1756 UTC.
The region continued to exhibit a horizontal shear line and slight areal
growth over the period. The other region of interest, Region 1817
(S21W31, Ekc/beta-gamma-delta) exhibited some intermediate spot decay
but redeveloped intermixed magnetic fields including a weak delta within
the large leader spot. The region was responsible for a C1/Sf at 15/1835
UTC. Two new regions were numbered during the period; Region 1822
(S08E57, Dao/beta) rapidly evolved on the disk and Region 1823 (S07E72,
Hsx/alpha) rotated onto the disk. The remaining spot groups were either
stable or in slight decay. At about 14/2000 UTC, both SDO/AIA 304 and
GONG H-alpha imagery observed a 21 degree long filament eruption
centered near S28W70. At 14/2200 UTC, SOHO/LASCO C2 imagery observed a
slow-moving CME off the SW limb with a majority of the ejecta directed
just south of the ecliptic plane. WSA Enlil analysis indicated this CME
did not have an Earth-directed component.

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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There getting bigger. We've almost got full blown cave hieroglyphic-type plasma discharge events. This is from today's spaceweather.com page. soo cool.

[link to spaceweather.com]
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Great find, Isishf That's one incredible photograph! Thanks for sharing it.

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There getting bigger. We've almost got full blown cave hieroglyphic-type plasma discharge events. This is from today's spaceweather.com page. soo cool.

[link to spaceweather.com]
 Quoting: Isis One


Wow, thank you for posting the link! hf

Beautiful, but concerning.
 Quoting: Vesper33


There getting bigger. We've almost got full blown cave hieroglyphic-type plasma discharge events. This is from today's spaceweather.com page. soo cool.

[link to spaceweather.com]
 Quoting: Isis One


Great find, Isishf That's one incredible photograph! Thanks for sharing it.

alone
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Thanks Hugh, and V! I think I would die if I saw that in the sky over my backyard (and that day may be coming, lol).They had a shot posted last week too but these were significantly bigger, at least to me.
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Voyager 1 has left the solar system, says new study
2 hours ago
(Phys.org) —Voyager 1 appears to have at long last left our solar system and entered interstellar space, says a University of Maryland-led team of researchers.

Carrying Earthly greetings on a gold plated phonograph record and still-operational scientific instruments – including the Low Energy Charged Particle detector designed, built and overseen, in part, by UMD's Space Physics Group – NASA's Voyager 1 has traveled farther from Earth than any other human-made object. And now, these researchers say, it has begun the first exploration of our galaxy beyond the Sun's influence.
"It's a somewhat controversial view, but we think Voyager has finally left the Solar System, and is truly beginning its travels through the Milky Way," says UMD research scientist Marc Swisdak, lead author of a new paper published online this week in The Astrophysical Journal Letters. Swisdak and fellow plasma physicists James F. Drake, also of the University of Maryland, and Merav Opher of Boston University have constructed a model of the outer edge of the Solar System that fits recent observations, both expected and unexpected.
Their model indicates Voyager 1 actually entered interstellar space a little more than a year ago, a finding directly counter to recent papers by NASA and other scientists suggesting the spacecraft was still in a fuzzily-defined transition zone between the Sun's sphere of influence and the rest of the galaxy.
But why the controversy?
At issue is what the boundary-crossing should look like to Earth-bound observers 11 billion miles (18 billion kilometers) away. The Sun's envelope, known as the heliosphere, is relatively well-understood as the region of space dominated by the magnetic field and charged particles emanating from our star. The heliopause transition zone is both of unknown structure and location. According to conventional wisdom, we'll know we've passed through this mysterious boundary when we stop seeing solar particles and start seeing galactic particles, and we also detect a change in the prevailing direction of the local magnetic field.
[link to phys.org]
 Quoting: AKObserver

Spread the word, change the collective conscious......
THERE IS MORE THAN ENOUGH OF EVERYTHING TO GO AROUND

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One doesn't discover new lands without consenting to lose sight, for a very long time, of the shore. Andre Gide
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Strange NASA/JPL Press Releases this month-

JUNO IS HALFWAY TO JUPITER:

[link to www.jpl.nasa.gov]

Well, not really, Juno is actually farther away from Jupiter than when it was launched....I'm not joking either.

I got curious when I noticed Juno on the ENLIL Cone Model (denoted by the gray square):

[link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080]

When I looked into this a little more I discovered that Juno will buzz the Earth in October- within 400 miles of your hometown! How the heck is this "halfway-to-Jupiter"?

It's all very understandable if you see the flight-path map. Juno went out to deep space past the orbit of Mars, turned around and came back towards Earth for a gravity-assist so it can speed back out to Jupiter by 2016.

Juno map:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

It just irks me that NASA always uses misleading headlines and catch-phrases as they talk down to the public as if we're all in grade school. You all know many of these dumb headlines get repeated and distorted all over the internets and YouTube. Think...'Giant Breach in Magnetosphere' , "Cracks in Earth's Magnetic Shield", "Collapse of Earth's Upper Atmosphere", and so on. These are all important and interesting discoveries, but none of these reports are as doomy or alarming as the sensational titles imply. I conclude that NASA must be deliberately promoting fear and ignorance. I'm not sure why.....

[link to science.nasa.gov]

[link to science.nasa.gov]

[link to science.nasa.gov]

[link to science.nasa.gov]
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Strange NASA/JPL Press Releases this month-

JUNO IS HALFWAY TO JUPITER:

[link to www.jpl.nasa.gov]

Well, not really, Juno is actually farther away from Jupiter than when it was launched....I'm not joking either.

I got curious when I noticed Juno on the ENLIL Cone Model (denoted by the gray square):

[link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080]

When I looked into this a little more I discovered that Juno will buzz the Earth in October- within 400 miles of your hometown! How the heck is this "halfway-to-Jupiter"?

It's all very understandable if you see the flight-path map. Juno went out to deep space past the orbit of Mars, turned around and came back towards Earth for a gravity-assist so it can speed back out to Jupiter by 2016.

Juno map:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

It just irks me that NASA always uses misleading headlines and catch-phrases as they talk down to the public as if we're all in grade school. You all know many of these dumb headlines get repeated and distorted all over the internets and YouTube. Think...'Giant Breach in Magnetosphere' , "Cracks in Earth's Magnetic Shield", "Collapse of Earth's Upper Atmosphere", and so on. These are all important and interesting discoveries, but none of these reports are as doomy or alarming as the sensational titles imply. I conclude that NASA must be deliberately promoting fear and ignorance. I'm not sure why.....

[link to science.nasa.gov]

[link to science.nasa.gov]

[link to science.nasa.gov]

[link to science.nasa.gov]
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Still observing and learning here. Thanks to all on this thread. Truly amazing!

hf grouphug
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Strange NASA/JPL Press Releases this month-

JUNO IS HALFWAY TO JUPITER:

[link to www.jpl.nasa.gov]

Well, not really, Juno is actually farther away from Jupiter than when it was launched....I'm not joking either.

I got curious when I noticed Juno on the ENLIL Cone Model (denoted by the gray square):

[link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080]

When I looked into this a little more I discovered that Juno will buzz the Earth in October- within 400 miles of your hometown! How the heck is this "halfway-to-Jupiter"?

It's all very understandable if you see the flight-path map. Juno went out to deep space past the orbit of Mars, turned around and came back towards Earth for a gravity-assist so it can speed back out to Jupiter by 2016.

Juno map:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

It just irks me that NASA always uses misleading headlines and catch-phrases as they talk down to the public as if we're all in grade school. You all know many of these dumb headlines get repeated and distorted all over the internets and YouTube. Think...'Giant Breach in Magnetosphere' , "Cracks in Earth's Magnetic Shield", "Collapse of Earth's Upper Atmosphere", and so on. These are all important and interesting discoveries, but none of these reports are as doomy or alarming as the sensational titles imply. I conclude that NASA must be deliberately promoting fear and ignorance. I'm not sure why.....

[link to science.nasa.gov]

[link to science.nasa.gov]

[link to science.nasa.gov]

[link to science.nasa.gov]
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I'm not sure why.....


I'm with you on this, fear and small bits of true info seem to be the course for our timeline of late?
Somethings brewing, sun fear is at an alarming rise. My colleagues, those in the business side think its an attempt by the GOP to ruin the economy. I'm a passive fellow, but I almost had to clean a clock yesterday. It seems he believes the GOP is directing all this sun doom to kill the markets, yet he completely believes we are going to die from an event. Stupidity is so frustrating, but almost comical when you've got someone fighting themselves.
Roses are red , violets are blue , I'm a schizophrenic and so am I!
Sorry for the rant
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Voyager 1 has left the solar system, says new study
2 hours ago
(Phys.org) —Voyager 1 appears to have at long last left our solar system and entered interstellar space, says a University of Maryland-led team of researchers.

Carrying Earthly greetings on a gold plated phonograph record and still-operational scientific instruments – including the Low Energy Charged Particle detector designed, built and overseen, in part, by UMD's Space Physics Group – NASA's Voyager 1 has traveled farther from Earth than any other human-made object. And now, these researchers say, it has begun the first exploration of our galaxy beyond the Sun's influence.
"It's a somewhat controversial view, but we think Voyager has finally left the Solar System, and is truly beginning its travels through the Milky Way," says UMD research scientist Marc Swisdak, lead author of a new paper published online this week in The Astrophysical Journal Letters. Swisdak and fellow plasma physicists James F. Drake, also of the University of Maryland, and Merav Opher of Boston University have constructed a model of the outer edge of the Solar System that fits recent observations, both expected and unexpected.
Their model indicates Voyager 1 actually entered interstellar space a little more than a year ago, a finding directly counter to recent papers by NASA and other scientists suggesting the spacecraft was still in a fuzzily-defined transition zone between the Sun's sphere of influence and the rest of the galaxy.
But why the controversy?
At issue is what the boundary-crossing should look like to Earth-bound observers 11 billion miles (18 billion kilometers) away. The Sun's envelope, known as the heliosphere, is relatively well-understood as the region of space dominated by the magnetic field and charged particles emanating from our star. The heliopause transition zone is both of unknown structure and location. According to conventional wisdom, we'll know we've passed through this mysterious boundary when we stop seeing solar particles and start seeing galactic particles, and we also detect a change in the prevailing direction of the local magnetic field.
[link to phys.org]
 Quoting: AKObserver

 Quoting: Isis One


Thanks again, I. One! This was the other topic I was gonna bring up, haha. NASA put out a special statement today in response to this.

NASA Voyager Statement-

August 15, 2013

A newly published paper argues that NASA's Voyager 1 spacecraft has already entered interstellar space. The model described in the paper is new and different from other models used so far to explain the data the spacecraft has been sending back from more than 11 billion miles (18 billion kilometers) away from our sun. (snip)

Their model would mean that the interstellar magnetic field direction is the same as that which originates from our sun.

Other models envision the interstellar magnetic field draped around our solar bubble and predict that the direction of the interstellar magnetic field is different from the solar magnetic field inside. By that interpretation, Voyager 1 would still be inside our solar bubble.

[link to www.jpl.nasa.gov]

This sounded strangely familiar.....back in March the Voyager team issued a similar brief denial-

March 20, 2013

"The Voyager team is aware of reports today that NASA's Voyager 1 has left the solar system," said Edward Stone, Voyager project scientist based at the California Institute of Technology, Pasadena, Calif. "It is the consensus of the Voyager science team that Voyager 1 has not yet left the solar system or reached interstellar space."
[link to www.jpl.nasa.gov]

At that time, Wired did a write-up shedding some light on the controversy:

[link to www.wired.com]
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Da fuq wake up, craziness abounds. So much energy going with wreckless abandon. We have a shit storm approaching!
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Lots of aftershocks? to the earthquake in New Zealand.
[link to www.globalincidentmap.com]
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Voyager 1 has left the solar system, says new study
2 hours ago
(Phys.org) —Voyager 1 appears to have at long last left our solar system and entered interstellar space, says a University of Maryland-led team of researchers.

Carrying Earthly greetings on a gold plated phonograph record and still-operational scientific instruments – including the Low Energy Charged Particle detector designed, built and overseen, in part, by UMD's Space Physics Group – NASA's Voyager 1 has traveled farther from Earth than any other human-made object. And now, these researchers say, it has begun the first exploration of our galaxy beyond the Sun's influence.
"It's a somewhat controversial view, but we think Voyager has finally left the Solar System, and is truly beginning its travels through the Milky Way," says UMD research scientist Marc Swisdak, lead author of a new paper published online this week in The Astrophysical Journal Letters. Swisdak and fellow plasma physicists James F. Drake, also of the University of Maryland, and Merav Opher of Boston University have constructed a model of the outer edge of the Solar System that fits recent observations, both expected and unexpected.
Their model indicates Voyager 1 actually entered interstellar space a little more than a year ago, a finding directly counter to recent papers by NASA and other scientists suggesting the spacecraft was still in a fuzzily-defined transition zone between the Sun's sphere of influence and the rest of the galaxy.
But why the controversy?
At issue is what the boundary-crossing should look like to Earth-bound observers 11 billion miles (18 billion kilometers) away. The Sun's envelope, known as the heliosphere, is relatively well-understood as the region of space dominated by the magnetic field and charged particles emanating from our star. The heliopause transition zone is both of unknown structure and location. According to conventional wisdom, we'll know we've passed through this mysterious boundary when we stop seeing solar particles and start seeing galactic particles, and we also detect a change in the prevailing direction of the local magnetic field.
[link to phys.org]
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 Quoting: Isis One


Thanks again, I. One! This was the other topic I was gonna bring up, haha. NASA put out a special statement today in response to this.

NASA Voyager Statement-

August 15, 2013

A newly published paper argues that NASA's Voyager 1 spacecraft has already entered interstellar space. The model described in the paper is new and different from other models used so far to explain the data the spacecraft has been sending back from more than 11 billion miles (18 billion kilometers) away from our sun. (snip)

Their model would mean that the interstellar magnetic field direction is the same as that which originates from our sun.

Other models envision the interstellar magnetic field draped around our solar bubble and predict that the direction of the interstellar magnetic field is different from the solar magnetic field inside. By that interpretation, Voyager 1 would still be inside our solar bubble.

[link to www.jpl.nasa.gov]

This sounded strangely familiar.....back in March the Voyager team issued a similar brief denial-

March 20, 2013

"The Voyager team is aware of reports today that NASA's Voyager 1 has left the solar system," said Edward Stone, Voyager project scientist based at the California Institute of Technology, Pasadena, Calif. "It is the consensus of the Voyager science team that Voyager 1 has not yet left the solar system or reached interstellar space."
[link to www.jpl.nasa.gov]

At that time, Wired did a write-up shedding some light on the controversy:

[link to www.wired.com]
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Apparently, there is a lot of in-fighting. So....has Elvis left the building or not?
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Strange NASA/JPL Press Releases this month-

JUNO IS HALFWAY TO JUPITER:

[link to www.jpl.nasa.gov]

Well, not really, Juno is actually farther away from Jupiter than when it was launched....I'm not joking either.

I got curious when I noticed Juno on the ENLIL Cone Model (denoted by the gray square):

[link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080]

When I looked into this a little more I discovered that Juno will buzz the Earth in October- within 400 miles of your hometown! How the heck is this "halfway-to-Jupiter"?

It's all very understandable if you see the flight-path map. Juno went out to deep space past the orbit of Mars, turned around and came back towards Earth for a gravity-assist so it can speed back out to Jupiter by 2016.

Juno map:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

It just irks me that NASA always uses misleading headlines and catch-phrases as they talk down to the public as if we're all in grade school. You all know many of these dumb headlines get repeated and distorted all over the internets and YouTube. Think...'Giant Breach in Magnetosphere' , "Cracks in Earth's Magnetic Shield", "Collapse of Earth's Upper Atmosphere", and so on. These are all important and interesting discoveries, but none of these reports are as doomy or alarming as the sensational titles imply. I conclude that NASA must be deliberately promoting fear and ignorance. I'm not sure why.....

[link to science.nasa.gov]

[link to science.nasa.gov]

[link to science.nasa.gov]

[link to science.nasa.gov]
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I'm not sure why.....


I'm with you on this, fear and small bits of true info seem to be the course for our timeline of late?
Somethings brewing, sun fear is at an alarming rise. My colleagues, those in the business side think its an attempt by the GOP to ruin the economy. I'm a passive fellow, but I almost had to clean a clock yesterday. It seems he believes the GOP is directing all this sun doom to kill the markets, yet he completely believes we are going to die from an event. Stupidity is so frustrating, but almost comical when you've got someone fighting themselves.
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It's good to have a nice rant now and then, LOL. Please vent to your heart's content, friend. I don't get the GOP-inspired-doom angle at all; but most folks are pre-programmed to blame Dems/GOPs or blacks/whites or the rich/the poor. It's a trademark of the Hegelian Dialectic-mind control-divide and conquer-cognitive dissonance of the One World Agenda. Most everyone else is just apathetic. Not worth getting too upset about....yet. Peace.
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"The Voyager team is aware of reports today that NASA's Voyager 1 has left the solar system," said Edward Stone, Voyager project scientist based at the California Institute of Technology, Pasadena, Calif. "It is the consensus of the Voyager science team that Voyager 1 has not yet left the solar system or reached interstellar space."
[link to www.jpl.nasa.gov]

At that time, Wired did a write-up shedding some light on the controversy:

[link to www.wired.com]
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I dont understand how the sat is constructed but surely I would hope they are not pinning there entire model of extra solar space on that aging piece of space junk they let float away.

I dont believe much from NASA, how has voyager got through the asteroid belt?, The magnetic fields must be very weak that far out surely, how do they know it is not faulty data. anyway with our suns field still changing could that be the reason they are so confused. How do they know when it has officially left the "solar system", is there a big box or line or roadsign it passes thru?

magnetic fields are propagated in flux lines which are waves right? so they will be diminishing with distance but will propagate forever making definitive classification of what is, and what is not our solar system difficult, surely.

I don't understand the significance anyhow, what does it matter.
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It's good to have a nice rant now and then, LOL. Please vent to your heart's content, friend. I don't get the GOP-inspired-doom angle at all; but most folks are pre-programmed to blame Dems/GOPs or blacks/whites or the rich/the poor. It's a trademark of the Hegelian Dialectic-mind control-divide and conquer-cognitive dissonance of the One World Agenda. Most everyone else is just apathetic. Not worth getting too upset about....yet. Peace.
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I'm an optimist, i think d00m is coming sooner rather than later lol.
Seriously though i don't think it will be sun d00m I think it will be financial doom followed by whatever bullshit false flag will help the powers that be with there agenda.

I keep hearing things that tie-in together, although many from spurious sources. particularly with regards to the east coast of the US and some man made natural disaster. I dunno, fear porn.
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Voyager 1 has left the solar system, says new study
2 hours ago
(Phys.org) —Voyager 1 appears to have at long last left our solar system and entered interstellar space, says a University of Maryland-led team of researchers.

Carrying Earthly greetings on a gold plated phonograph record and still-operational scientific instruments – including the Low Energy Charged Particle detector designed, built and overseen, in part, by UMD's Space Physics Group – NASA's Voyager 1 has traveled farther from Earth than any other human-made object. And now, these researchers say, it has begun the first exploration of our galaxy beyond the Sun's influence.
"It's a somewhat controversial view, but we think Voyager has finally left the Solar System, and is truly beginning its travels through the Milky Way," says UMD research scientist Marc Swisdak, lead author of a new paper published online this week in The Astrophysical Journal Letters. Swisdak and fellow plasma physicists James F. Drake, also of the University of Maryland, and Merav Opher of Boston University have constructed a model of the outer edge of the Solar System that fits recent observations, both expected and unexpected.
Their model indicates Voyager 1 actually entered interstellar space a little more than a year ago, a finding directly counter to recent papers by NASA and other scientists suggesting the spacecraft was still in a fuzzily-defined transition zone between the Sun's sphere of influence and the rest of the galaxy.
But why the controversy?
At issue is what the boundary-crossing should look like to Earth-bound observers 11 billion miles (18 billion kilometers) away. The Sun's envelope, known as the heliosphere, is relatively well-understood as the region of space dominated by the magnetic field and charged particles emanating from our star. The heliopause transition zone is both of unknown structure and location. According to conventional wisdom, we'll know we've passed through this mysterious boundary when we stop seeing solar particles and start seeing galactic particles, and we also detect a change in the prevailing direction of the local magnetic field.
[link to phys.org]
 Quoting: AKObserver

 Quoting: Isis One


Thanks again, I. One! This was the other topic I was gonna bring up, haha. NASA put out a special statement today in response to this.

NASA Voyager Statement-

August 15, 2013

A newly published paper argues that NASA's Voyager 1 spacecraft has already entered interstellar space. The model described in the paper is new and different from other models used so far to explain the data the spacecraft has been sending back from more than 11 billion miles (18 billion kilometers) away from our sun. (snip)

Their model would mean that the interstellar magnetic field direction is the same as that which originates from our sun.

Other models envision the interstellar magnetic field draped around our solar bubble and predict that the direction of the interstellar magnetic field is different from the solar magnetic field inside. By that interpretation, Voyager 1 would still be inside our solar bubble.

[link to www.jpl.nasa.gov]

This sounded strangely familiar.....back in March the Voyager team issued a similar brief denial-

March 20, 2013

"The Voyager team is aware of reports today that NASA's Voyager 1 has left the solar system," said Edward Stone, Voyager project scientist based at the California Institute of Technology, Pasadena, Calif. "It is the consensus of the Voyager science team that Voyager 1 has not yet left the solar system or reached interstellar space."
[link to www.jpl.nasa.gov]

At that time, Wired did a write-up shedding some light on the controversy:

[link to www.wired.com]
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Apparently, there is a lot of in-fighting. So....has Elvis left the building or not?
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Hi sol crew here is an interesting video by Dr Meghan Gray from the University of Nottingham regarding voyager 1 and 2.
She has a knack of explaining things make us novice scientists, have a better understanding of the universe.



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Good morning, sol' patrol!

Starting to get a bit crunchy..

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

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Good morning, sol' patrol!

Starting to get a bit crunchy..

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

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Yes, things can change rapidly with the sun. For example, check out this story from late 2003 (2 years after solar max):

THE SUN GOES HAYWIRE! (NASA Press Release)

Then, suddenly, in late October the sun began to behave strangely. Three giant sunspots appeared, each one larger than the planet Jupiter. In California where smoke from wildfires dimmed the sun enough to look straight at it, casual sky watchers were startled by the huge blotches on the sun. One of them, named "sunspot 486," was the biggest in 13 years. (snip)

Sunspots cause solar flares and, usually, the biggest flares come from the biggest spots. The three giant sunspots unleashed eleven X-class flares in only fourteen days--equaling the total number observed during the previous twelve months. "This was a big surprise," says Hathaway.

All this happened two years after solar maximum, which raises a question: is something wrong with the solar cycle? Is the sun going haywire?
"Nothing's wrong," reassures Hathaway. The sun isn't about to explode, nor is the sunspot cycle broken.
"These latest sunspots were whoppers," he allows, "but sunspot counts averaged over many weeks are still declining as predicted. We're still on course for a solar minimum in 2006."
Indeed, it's possible that what we've just experienced is a normal part of the solar cycle, speculates Hathaway. "There's a curious tendency for the biggest flares to occur after solar maximum--on the downslope toward solar minimum.

[link to science1.nasa.gov]

Among those 11 X-flares was the legendary record-shattering X28 flare.

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