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SOLAR WATCH * 312 M & 25 X FLARES starting 3-7-2011 (Updated Daily)

 
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There getting bigger. We've almost got full blown cave hieroglyphic-type plasma discharge events. This is from today's spaceweather.com page. soo cool.

[link to spaceweather.com]
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Wow, thank you for posting the link! hf

Beautiful, but concerning.
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There getting bigger. We've almost got full blown cave hieroglyphic-type plasma discharge events. This is from today's spaceweather.com page. soo cool.

[link to spaceweather.com]
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Ahhhh, sprites are so cool!

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Hi, sonic, Geo and all you lurkers, it seems that AR1817 has regained its delta, but 1818 has lost its gamma. Also new spots have been numbered.

Joint USAF/NOAA Solar Region Summary
SRS Number 228 Issued at 0030Z on 16 Aug 2013
Report compiled from data received at SWO on 15 Aug
I. Regions with Sunspots. Locations Valid at 15/2400Z
Nmbr Location Lo Area Z LL NN Mag Type
1817 S21W31 241 0260 Ekc 12 22 Beta-Gamma-Delta
1818 S07W07 217 0300 Dki 08 15 Beta

1819 S17W19 229 0020 Cao 05 06 Beta
1820 S13E31 179 0030 Cro 11 07 Beta
1821 N01W35 245 0010 Bxo 03 03 Beta
1822 S08E57 153 0030 Dao 07 05 Beta
1823 S07E72 138 0120 Hsx 02 01 Alpha


NOAA 24-hr. Summary (NOTE: the CME they refer to is yesterday's fat filament liftoff)-

Solar Activity

.24 hr Summary...
Solar activity was at low levels. The largest event of the period, a
C2/Sf flare, erupted from Region 1818 (S07W07, Dki/beta) at 15/1756 UTC.
The region continued to exhibit a horizontal shear line and slight areal
growth over the period. The other region of interest, Region 1817
(S21W31, Ekc/beta-gamma-delta) exhibited some intermediate spot decay
but redeveloped intermixed magnetic fields including a weak delta within
the large leader spot. The region was responsible for a C1/Sf at 15/1835
UTC. Two new regions were numbered during the period; Region 1822
(S08E57, Dao/beta) rapidly evolved on the disk and Region 1823 (S07E72,
Hsx/alpha) rotated onto the disk. The remaining spot groups were either
stable or in slight decay. At about 14/2000 UTC, both SDO/AIA 304 and
GONG H-alpha imagery observed a 21 degree long filament eruption
centered near S28W70. At 14/2200 UTC, SOHO/LASCO C2 imagery observed a
slow-moving CME off the SW limb with a majority of the ejecta directed
just south of the ecliptic plane. WSA Enlil analysis indicated this CME
did not have an Earth-directed component.

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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There getting bigger. We've almost got full blown cave hieroglyphic-type plasma discharge events. This is from today's spaceweather.com page. soo cool.

[link to spaceweather.com]
 Quoting: Isis One


Great find, Isishf That's one incredible photograph! Thanks for sharing it.

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There getting bigger. We've almost got full blown cave hieroglyphic-type plasma discharge events. This is from today's spaceweather.com page. soo cool.

[link to spaceweather.com]
 Quoting: Isis One


Wow, thank you for posting the link! hf

Beautiful, but concerning.
 Quoting: Vesper33


There getting bigger. We've almost got full blown cave hieroglyphic-type plasma discharge events. This is from today's spaceweather.com page. soo cool.

[link to spaceweather.com]
 Quoting: Isis One


Great find, Isishf That's one incredible photograph! Thanks for sharing it.

alone
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Thanks Hugh, and V! I think I would die if I saw that in the sky over my backyard (and that day may be coming, lol).They had a shot posted last week too but these were significantly bigger, at least to me.
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Voyager 1 has left the solar system, says new study
2 hours ago
(Phys.org) —Voyager 1 appears to have at long last left our solar system and entered interstellar space, says a University of Maryland-led team of researchers.

Carrying Earthly greetings on a gold plated phonograph record and still-operational scientific instruments – including the Low Energy Charged Particle detector designed, built and overseen, in part, by UMD's Space Physics Group – NASA's Voyager 1 has traveled farther from Earth than any other human-made object. And now, these researchers say, it has begun the first exploration of our galaxy beyond the Sun's influence.
"It's a somewhat controversial view, but we think Voyager has finally left the Solar System, and is truly beginning its travels through the Milky Way," says UMD research scientist Marc Swisdak, lead author of a new paper published online this week in The Astrophysical Journal Letters. Swisdak and fellow plasma physicists James F. Drake, also of the University of Maryland, and Merav Opher of Boston University have constructed a model of the outer edge of the Solar System that fits recent observations, both expected and unexpected.
Their model indicates Voyager 1 actually entered interstellar space a little more than a year ago, a finding directly counter to recent papers by NASA and other scientists suggesting the spacecraft was still in a fuzzily-defined transition zone between the Sun's sphere of influence and the rest of the galaxy.
But why the controversy?
At issue is what the boundary-crossing should look like to Earth-bound observers 11 billion miles (18 billion kilometers) away. The Sun's envelope, known as the heliosphere, is relatively well-understood as the region of space dominated by the magnetic field and charged particles emanating from our star. The heliopause transition zone is both of unknown structure and location. According to conventional wisdom, we'll know we've passed through this mysterious boundary when we stop seeing solar particles and start seeing galactic particles, and we also detect a change in the prevailing direction of the local magnetic field.
[link to phys.org]
 Quoting: AKObserver

Spread the word, change the collective conscious......
THERE IS MORE THAN ENOUGH OF EVERYTHING TO GO AROUND

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Strange NASA/JPL Press Releases this month-

JUNO IS HALFWAY TO JUPITER:

[link to www.jpl.nasa.gov]

Well, not really, Juno is actually farther away from Jupiter than when it was launched....I'm not joking either.

I got curious when I noticed Juno on the ENLIL Cone Model (denoted by the gray square):

[link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080]

When I looked into this a little more I discovered that Juno will buzz the Earth in October- within 400 miles of your hometown! How the heck is this "halfway-to-Jupiter"?

It's all very understandable if you see the flight-path map. Juno went out to deep space past the orbit of Mars, turned around and came back towards Earth for a gravity-assist so it can speed back out to Jupiter by 2016.

Juno map:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

It just irks me that NASA always uses misleading headlines and catch-phrases as they talk down to the public as if we're all in grade school. You all know many of these dumb headlines get repeated and distorted all over the internets and YouTube. Think...'Giant Breach in Magnetosphere' , "Cracks in Earth's Magnetic Shield", "Collapse of Earth's Upper Atmosphere", and so on. These are all important and interesting discoveries, but none of these reports are as doomy or alarming as the sensational titles imply. I conclude that NASA must be deliberately promoting fear and ignorance. I'm not sure why.....

[link to science.nasa.gov]

[link to science.nasa.gov]

[link to science.nasa.gov]

[link to science.nasa.gov]
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Strange NASA/JPL Press Releases this month-

JUNO IS HALFWAY TO JUPITER:

[link to www.jpl.nasa.gov]

Well, not really, Juno is actually farther away from Jupiter than when it was launched....I'm not joking either.

I got curious when I noticed Juno on the ENLIL Cone Model (denoted by the gray square):

[link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080]

When I looked into this a little more I discovered that Juno will buzz the Earth in October- within 400 miles of your hometown! How the heck is this "halfway-to-Jupiter"?

It's all very understandable if you see the flight-path map. Juno went out to deep space past the orbit of Mars, turned around and came back towards Earth for a gravity-assist so it can speed back out to Jupiter by 2016.

Juno map:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

It just irks me that NASA always uses misleading headlines and catch-phrases as they talk down to the public as if we're all in grade school. You all know many of these dumb headlines get repeated and distorted all over the internets and YouTube. Think...'Giant Breach in Magnetosphere' , "Cracks in Earth's Magnetic Shield", "Collapse of Earth's Upper Atmosphere", and so on. These are all important and interesting discoveries, but none of these reports are as doomy or alarming as the sensational titles imply. I conclude that NASA must be deliberately promoting fear and ignorance. I'm not sure why.....

[link to science.nasa.gov]

[link to science.nasa.gov]

[link to science.nasa.gov]

[link to science.nasa.gov]
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


Still observing and learning here. Thanks to all on this thread. Truly amazing!

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Strange NASA/JPL Press Releases this month-

JUNO IS HALFWAY TO JUPITER:

[link to www.jpl.nasa.gov]

Well, not really, Juno is actually farther away from Jupiter than when it was launched....I'm not joking either.

I got curious when I noticed Juno on the ENLIL Cone Model (denoted by the gray square):

[link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080]

When I looked into this a little more I discovered that Juno will buzz the Earth in October- within 400 miles of your hometown! How the heck is this "halfway-to-Jupiter"?

It's all very understandable if you see the flight-path map. Juno went out to deep space past the orbit of Mars, turned around and came back towards Earth for a gravity-assist so it can speed back out to Jupiter by 2016.

Juno map:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

It just irks me that NASA always uses misleading headlines and catch-phrases as they talk down to the public as if we're all in grade school. You all know many of these dumb headlines get repeated and distorted all over the internets and YouTube. Think...'Giant Breach in Magnetosphere' , "Cracks in Earth's Magnetic Shield", "Collapse of Earth's Upper Atmosphere", and so on. These are all important and interesting discoveries, but none of these reports are as doomy or alarming as the sensational titles imply. I conclude that NASA must be deliberately promoting fear and ignorance. I'm not sure why.....

[link to science.nasa.gov]

[link to science.nasa.gov]

[link to science.nasa.gov]

[link to science.nasa.gov]
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye






I'm not sure why.....


I'm with you on this, fear and small bits of true info seem to be the course for our timeline of late?
Somethings brewing, sun fear is at an alarming rise. My colleagues, those in the business side think its an attempt by the GOP to ruin the economy. I'm a passive fellow, but I almost had to clean a clock yesterday. It seems he believes the GOP is directing all this sun doom to kill the markets, yet he completely believes we are going to die from an event. Stupidity is so frustrating, but almost comical when you've got someone fighting themselves.
Roses are red , violets are blue , I'm a schizophrenic and so am I!
Sorry for the rant
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Voyager 1 has left the solar system, says new study
2 hours ago
(Phys.org) —Voyager 1 appears to have at long last left our solar system and entered interstellar space, says a University of Maryland-led team of researchers.

Carrying Earthly greetings on a gold plated phonograph record and still-operational scientific instruments – including the Low Energy Charged Particle detector designed, built and overseen, in part, by UMD's Space Physics Group – NASA's Voyager 1 has traveled farther from Earth than any other human-made object. And now, these researchers say, it has begun the first exploration of our galaxy beyond the Sun's influence.
"It's a somewhat controversial view, but we think Voyager has finally left the Solar System, and is truly beginning its travels through the Milky Way," says UMD research scientist Marc Swisdak, lead author of a new paper published online this week in The Astrophysical Journal Letters. Swisdak and fellow plasma physicists James F. Drake, also of the University of Maryland, and Merav Opher of Boston University have constructed a model of the outer edge of the Solar System that fits recent observations, both expected and unexpected.
Their model indicates Voyager 1 actually entered interstellar space a little more than a year ago, a finding directly counter to recent papers by NASA and other scientists suggesting the spacecraft was still in a fuzzily-defined transition zone between the Sun's sphere of influence and the rest of the galaxy.
But why the controversy?
At issue is what the boundary-crossing should look like to Earth-bound observers 11 billion miles (18 billion kilometers) away. The Sun's envelope, known as the heliosphere, is relatively well-understood as the region of space dominated by the magnetic field and charged particles emanating from our star. The heliopause transition zone is both of unknown structure and location. According to conventional wisdom, we'll know we've passed through this mysterious boundary when we stop seeing solar particles and start seeing galactic particles, and we also detect a change in the prevailing direction of the local magnetic field.
[link to phys.org]
 Quoting: AKObserver

 Quoting: Isis One


Thanks again, I. One! This was the other topic I was gonna bring up, haha. NASA put out a special statement today in response to this.

NASA Voyager Statement-

August 15, 2013

A newly published paper argues that NASA's Voyager 1 spacecraft has already entered interstellar space. The model described in the paper is new and different from other models used so far to explain the data the spacecraft has been sending back from more than 11 billion miles (18 billion kilometers) away from our sun. (snip)

Their model would mean that the interstellar magnetic field direction is the same as that which originates from our sun.

Other models envision the interstellar magnetic field draped around our solar bubble and predict that the direction of the interstellar magnetic field is different from the solar magnetic field inside. By that interpretation, Voyager 1 would still be inside our solar bubble.

[link to www.jpl.nasa.gov]

This sounded strangely familiar.....back in March the Voyager team issued a similar brief denial-

March 20, 2013

"The Voyager team is aware of reports today that NASA's Voyager 1 has left the solar system," said Edward Stone, Voyager project scientist based at the California Institute of Technology, Pasadena, Calif. "It is the consensus of the Voyager science team that Voyager 1 has not yet left the solar system or reached interstellar space."
[link to www.jpl.nasa.gov]

At that time, Wired did a write-up shedding some light on the controversy:

[link to www.wired.com]
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Da fuq wake up, craziness abounds. So much energy going with wreckless abandon. We have a shit storm approaching!
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Lots of aftershocks? to the earthquake in New Zealand.
[link to www.globalincidentmap.com]
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Voyager 1 has left the solar system, says new study
2 hours ago
(Phys.org) —Voyager 1 appears to have at long last left our solar system and entered interstellar space, says a University of Maryland-led team of researchers.

Carrying Earthly greetings on a gold plated phonograph record and still-operational scientific instruments – including the Low Energy Charged Particle detector designed, built and overseen, in part, by UMD's Space Physics Group – NASA's Voyager 1 has traveled farther from Earth than any other human-made object. And now, these researchers say, it has begun the first exploration of our galaxy beyond the Sun's influence.
"It's a somewhat controversial view, but we think Voyager has finally left the Solar System, and is truly beginning its travels through the Milky Way," says UMD research scientist Marc Swisdak, lead author of a new paper published online this week in The Astrophysical Journal Letters. Swisdak and fellow plasma physicists James F. Drake, also of the University of Maryland, and Merav Opher of Boston University have constructed a model of the outer edge of the Solar System that fits recent observations, both expected and unexpected.
Their model indicates Voyager 1 actually entered interstellar space a little more than a year ago, a finding directly counter to recent papers by NASA and other scientists suggesting the spacecraft was still in a fuzzily-defined transition zone between the Sun's sphere of influence and the rest of the galaxy.
But why the controversy?
At issue is what the boundary-crossing should look like to Earth-bound observers 11 billion miles (18 billion kilometers) away. The Sun's envelope, known as the heliosphere, is relatively well-understood as the region of space dominated by the magnetic field and charged particles emanating from our star. The heliopause transition zone is both of unknown structure and location. According to conventional wisdom, we'll know we've passed through this mysterious boundary when we stop seeing solar particles and start seeing galactic particles, and we also detect a change in the prevailing direction of the local magnetic field.
[link to phys.org]
 Quoting: AKObserver

 Quoting: Isis One


Thanks again, I. One! This was the other topic I was gonna bring up, haha. NASA put out a special statement today in response to this.

NASA Voyager Statement-

August 15, 2013

A newly published paper argues that NASA's Voyager 1 spacecraft has already entered interstellar space. The model described in the paper is new and different from other models used so far to explain the data the spacecraft has been sending back from more than 11 billion miles (18 billion kilometers) away from our sun. (snip)

Their model would mean that the interstellar magnetic field direction is the same as that which originates from our sun.

Other models envision the interstellar magnetic field draped around our solar bubble and predict that the direction of the interstellar magnetic field is different from the solar magnetic field inside. By that interpretation, Voyager 1 would still be inside our solar bubble.

[link to www.jpl.nasa.gov]

This sounded strangely familiar.....back in March the Voyager team issued a similar brief denial-

March 20, 2013

"The Voyager team is aware of reports today that NASA's Voyager 1 has left the solar system," said Edward Stone, Voyager project scientist based at the California Institute of Technology, Pasadena, Calif. "It is the consensus of the Voyager science team that Voyager 1 has not yet left the solar system or reached interstellar space."
[link to www.jpl.nasa.gov]

At that time, Wired did a write-up shedding some light on the controversy:

[link to www.wired.com]
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Apparently, there is a lot of in-fighting. So....has Elvis left the building or not?
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Strange NASA/JPL Press Releases this month-

JUNO IS HALFWAY TO JUPITER:

[link to www.jpl.nasa.gov]

Well, not really, Juno is actually farther away from Jupiter than when it was launched....I'm not joking either.

I got curious when I noticed Juno on the ENLIL Cone Model (denoted by the gray square):

[link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080]

When I looked into this a little more I discovered that Juno will buzz the Earth in October- within 400 miles of your hometown! How the heck is this "halfway-to-Jupiter"?

It's all very understandable if you see the flight-path map. Juno went out to deep space past the orbit of Mars, turned around and came back towards Earth for a gravity-assist so it can speed back out to Jupiter by 2016.

Juno map:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

It just irks me that NASA always uses misleading headlines and catch-phrases as they talk down to the public as if we're all in grade school. You all know many of these dumb headlines get repeated and distorted all over the internets and YouTube. Think...'Giant Breach in Magnetosphere' , "Cracks in Earth's Magnetic Shield", "Collapse of Earth's Upper Atmosphere", and so on. These are all important and interesting discoveries, but none of these reports are as doomy or alarming as the sensational titles imply. I conclude that NASA must be deliberately promoting fear and ignorance. I'm not sure why.....

[link to science.nasa.gov]

[link to science.nasa.gov]

[link to science.nasa.gov]

[link to science.nasa.gov]
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye






I'm not sure why.....


I'm with you on this, fear and small bits of true info seem to be the course for our timeline of late?
Somethings brewing, sun fear is at an alarming rise. My colleagues, those in the business side think its an attempt by the GOP to ruin the economy. I'm a passive fellow, but I almost had to clean a clock yesterday. It seems he believes the GOP is directing all this sun doom to kill the markets, yet he completely believes we are going to die from an event. Stupidity is so frustrating, but almost comical when you've got someone fighting themselves.
Roses are red , violets are blue , I'm a schizophrenic and so am I!
Sorry for the rant
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It's good to have a nice rant now and then, LOL. Please vent to your heart's content, friend. I don't get the GOP-inspired-doom angle at all; but most folks are pre-programmed to blame Dems/GOPs or blacks/whites or the rich/the poor. It's a trademark of the Hegelian Dialectic-mind control-divide and conquer-cognitive dissonance of the One World Agenda. Most everyone else is just apathetic. Not worth getting too upset about....yet. Peace.
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"The Voyager team is aware of reports today that NASA's Voyager 1 has left the solar system," said Edward Stone, Voyager project scientist based at the California Institute of Technology, Pasadena, Calif. "It is the consensus of the Voyager science team that Voyager 1 has not yet left the solar system or reached interstellar space."
[link to www.jpl.nasa.gov]

At that time, Wired did a write-up shedding some light on the controversy:

[link to www.wired.com]
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I dont understand how the sat is constructed but surely I would hope they are not pinning there entire model of extra solar space on that aging piece of space junk they let float away.

I dont believe much from NASA, how has voyager got through the asteroid belt?, The magnetic fields must be very weak that far out surely, how do they know it is not faulty data. anyway with our suns field still changing could that be the reason they are so confused. How do they know when it has officially left the "solar system", is there a big box or line or roadsign it passes thru?

magnetic fields are propagated in flux lines which are waves right? so they will be diminishing with distance but will propagate forever making definitive classification of what is, and what is not our solar system difficult, surely.

I don't understand the significance anyhow, what does it matter.
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It's good to have a nice rant now and then, LOL. Please vent to your heart's content, friend. I don't get the GOP-inspired-doom angle at all; but most folks are pre-programmed to blame Dems/GOPs or blacks/whites or the rich/the poor. It's a trademark of the Hegelian Dialectic-mind control-divide and conquer-cognitive dissonance of the One World Agenda. Most everyone else is just apathetic. Not worth getting too upset about....yet. Peace.
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I'm an optimist, i think d00m is coming sooner rather than later lol.
Seriously though i don't think it will be sun d00m I think it will be financial doom followed by whatever bullshit false flag will help the powers that be with there agenda.

I keep hearing things that tie-in together, although many from spurious sources. particularly with regards to the east coast of the US and some man made natural disaster. I dunno, fear porn.
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Voyager 1 has left the solar system, says new study
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(Phys.org) —Voyager 1 appears to have at long last left our solar system and entered interstellar space, says a University of Maryland-led team of researchers.

Carrying Earthly greetings on a gold plated phonograph record and still-operational scientific instruments – including the Low Energy Charged Particle detector designed, built and overseen, in part, by UMD's Space Physics Group – NASA's Voyager 1 has traveled farther from Earth than any other human-made object. And now, these researchers say, it has begun the first exploration of our galaxy beyond the Sun's influence.
"It's a somewhat controversial view, but we think Voyager has finally left the Solar System, and is truly beginning its travels through the Milky Way," says UMD research scientist Marc Swisdak, lead author of a new paper published online this week in The Astrophysical Journal Letters. Swisdak and fellow plasma physicists James F. Drake, also of the University of Maryland, and Merav Opher of Boston University have constructed a model of the outer edge of the Solar System that fits recent observations, both expected and unexpected.
Their model indicates Voyager 1 actually entered interstellar space a little more than a year ago, a finding directly counter to recent papers by NASA and other scientists suggesting the spacecraft was still in a fuzzily-defined transition zone between the Sun's sphere of influence and the rest of the galaxy.
But why the controversy?
At issue is what the boundary-crossing should look like to Earth-bound observers 11 billion miles (18 billion kilometers) away. The Sun's envelope, known as the heliosphere, is relatively well-understood as the region of space dominated by the magnetic field and charged particles emanating from our star. The heliopause transition zone is both of unknown structure and location. According to conventional wisdom, we'll know we've passed through this mysterious boundary when we stop seeing solar particles and start seeing galactic particles, and we also detect a change in the prevailing direction of the local magnetic field.
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 Quoting: Isis One


Thanks again, I. One! This was the other topic I was gonna bring up, haha. NASA put out a special statement today in response to this.

NASA Voyager Statement-

August 15, 2013

A newly published paper argues that NASA's Voyager 1 spacecraft has already entered interstellar space. The model described in the paper is new and different from other models used so far to explain the data the spacecraft has been sending back from more than 11 billion miles (18 billion kilometers) away from our sun. (snip)

Their model would mean that the interstellar magnetic field direction is the same as that which originates from our sun.

Other models envision the interstellar magnetic field draped around our solar bubble and predict that the direction of the interstellar magnetic field is different from the solar magnetic field inside. By that interpretation, Voyager 1 would still be inside our solar bubble.

[link to www.jpl.nasa.gov]

This sounded strangely familiar.....back in March the Voyager team issued a similar brief denial-

March 20, 2013

"The Voyager team is aware of reports today that NASA's Voyager 1 has left the solar system," said Edward Stone, Voyager project scientist based at the California Institute of Technology, Pasadena, Calif. "It is the consensus of the Voyager science team that Voyager 1 has not yet left the solar system or reached interstellar space."
[link to www.jpl.nasa.gov]

At that time, Wired did a write-up shedding some light on the controversy:

[link to www.wired.com]
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Apparently, there is a lot of in-fighting. So....has Elvis left the building or not?
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Hi sol crew here is an interesting video by Dr Meghan Gray from the University of Nottingham regarding voyager 1 and 2.
She has a knack of explaining things make us novice scientists, have a better understanding of the universe.



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Good morning, sol' patrol!

Starting to get a bit crunchy..

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Good morning, sol' patrol!

Starting to get a bit crunchy..

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Yes, things can change rapidly with the sun. For example, check out this story from late 2003 (2 years after solar max):

THE SUN GOES HAYWIRE! (NASA Press Release)

Then, suddenly, in late October the sun began to behave strangely. Three giant sunspots appeared, each one larger than the planet Jupiter. In California where smoke from wildfires dimmed the sun enough to look straight at it, casual sky watchers were startled by the huge blotches on the sun. One of them, named "sunspot 486," was the biggest in 13 years. (snip)

Sunspots cause solar flares and, usually, the biggest flares come from the biggest spots. The three giant sunspots unleashed eleven X-class flares in only fourteen days--equaling the total number observed during the previous twelve months. "This was a big surprise," says Hathaway.

All this happened two years after solar maximum, which raises a question: is something wrong with the solar cycle? Is the sun going haywire?
"Nothing's wrong," reassures Hathaway. The sun isn't about to explode, nor is the sunspot cycle broken.
"These latest sunspots were whoppers," he allows, "but sunspot counts averaged over many weeks are still declining as predicted. We're still on course for a solar minimum in 2006."
Indeed, it's possible that what we've just experienced is a normal part of the solar cycle, speculates Hathaway. "There's a curious tendency for the biggest flares to occur after solar maximum--on the downslope toward solar minimum.

[link to science1.nasa.gov]

Among those 11 X-flares was the legendary record-shattering X28 flare.

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Can someone more knowledgeable tell me what the "Dark" part of the Eve 3-day chart means? [link to lasp.colorado.edu]
It is showing a spike today and states "Warning: Dark 43.1"
Thanks in advance!
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Can someone more knowledgeable tell me what the "Dark" part of the Eve 3-day chart means? [link to lasp.colorado.edu]
It is showing a spike today and states "Warning: Dark 43.1"
Thanks in advance!
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Stunning NASA map reveals paths of 1,400 huge ‘hazard’ asteroids

A new map released by NASA has plotted the journeys of the majority of Earth’s most potentially dangerous asteroids through space, creating a swirling spirograph of over 1,400 gigantic asteroids that pass close to the planet’s orbit.





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It's my birthday on the 22nd. Solar doom is coming!!!




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Can someone more knowledgeable tell me what the "Dark" part of the Eve 3-day chart means? [link to lasp.colorado.edu]
It is showing a spike today and states "Warning: Dark 43.1"
Thanks in advance!
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This has come up before but I forgot the answer, muse1111. A little pain-staking research has given me a clearer idea, although a plain old explanation is hard to find. I'm not a huge techie, so excuse me if this in error.

The Dark Count is a sensor-calibration measurement of current (ie,voltage) and resulting thermal properties. The EVE instrument measures solar irradiance in multiple wavelengths in fine detail and has many filters and such. The dark count must be compensated for so as not to degrade the data being recorded. Here is one definition I found from Apogee Imaging which makes CCD imagers for some NASA projects-

Dark Count

Next to the quantum efficiency, resolution (number of bits) and noise figure, this is perhaps the most important CCD specification. Dark count refers to that property of all CCD sensors to generate charge in each pixel on its own with time and depending on the temperature. The lower the temperature of the sensor, the lower the dark count.
Dark count is usually expressed in electrons per unit of time at a given temperature. It can also be expressed as a current per sensor area at a given temperature.
The sole reason that CCDs are cooled is to reduce the dark count effect. For example, a Kodak KAF-0402e and KAF-1602e sensor is specified to have a dark count of 50 electrons per second at 25° C. Taking a one-minute exposure at this temperature would generate 3000 electrons of thermally induced charge!

Although the dark count can be subtracted, the dark noise cannot. The dark noise is approximately the square root of the dark count. In this example, the dark noise is about 55 electrons. This could easily degrade any low-light image you attempted to capture over this period of time.

[link to www.ccd.com]

Other links of interest I found along the way....All About EVE, haha.

Very technical science paper (pdf) on the EVE sensors:
[link to www.usc.edu (secure)]

NASA Multimedia briefing guide to EVE-SDO:
[link to www.nasa.gov]

Good background article on the EVE mission;
[link to spacefellowship.com]
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Can someone more knowledgeable tell me what the "Dark" part of the Eve 3-day chart means? [link to lasp.colorado.edu]
It is showing a spike today and states "Warning: Dark 43.1"
Thanks in advance!
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This has come up before but I forgot the answer, muse1111. A little pain-staking research has given me a clearer idea, although a plain old explanation is hard to find. I'm not a huge techie, so excuse me if this in error.

The Dark Count is a sensor-calibration measurement of current (ie,voltage) and resulting thermal properties. The EVE instrument measures solar irradiance in multiple wavelengths in fine detail and has many filters and such. The dark count must be compensated for so as not to degrade the data being recorded. Here is one definition I found from Apogee Imaging which makes CCD imagers for some NASA projects-

Dark Count

Next to the quantum efficiency, resolution (number of bits) and noise figure, this is perhaps the most important CCD specification. Dark count refers to that property of all CCD sensors to generate charge in each pixel on its own with time and depending on the temperature. The lower the temperature of the sensor, the lower the dark count.
Dark count is usually expressed in electrons per unit of time at a given temperature. It can also be expressed as a current per sensor area at a given temperature.
The sole reason that CCDs are cooled is to reduce the dark count effect. For example, a Kodak KAF-0402e and KAF-1602e sensor is specified to have a dark count of 50 electrons per second at 25° C. Taking a one-minute exposure at this temperature would generate 3000 electrons of thermally induced charge!

Although the dark count can be subtracted, the dark noise cannot. The dark noise is approximately the square root of the dark count. In this example, the dark noise is about 55 electrons. This could easily degrade any low-light image you attempted to capture over this period of time.

[link to www.ccd.com]

Other links of interest I found along the way....All About EVE, haha.

Very technical science paper (pdf) on the EVE sensors:
[link to www.usc.edu (secure)]

NASA Multimedia briefing guide to EVE-SDO:
[link to www.nasa.gov]

Good background article on the EVE mission;
[link to spacefellowship.com]
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Thank you! You are always a wealth of knowlege. I looked for a layman's definition and could not find one, either.
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The strong and fast solar winds today may be the cause of the Dark Count spike seen on EVE. Solar winds near 800 km/s at ACE:

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

ACE Protons look jumpy today, too:

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

NOAA has also issued an alert for high electron flux readings-

Space Weather Message Code: ALTEF3
Serial Number: 2068
Issue Time: 2013 Aug 16 1816 UTC

ALERT: Electron 2MeV Integral Flux exceeded 1000pfu
Threshold Reached: 2013 Aug 16 1800 UTC
Station: GOES13
Potential Impacts: Satellite systems may experience significant charging resulting in increased risk to satellite systems.

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GOES Electron Flux plot:

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