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SOLAR WATCH * M2.4 Solar Flare July 14 2017! Earth directed CME (Updated Daily)

 
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Anyone hear anything about Ison's orbit/trajectory changing? BP linked a Russian report in European agency's ROSCOSMOS, that said Ison seemed to be trying to align with Phobos.
 Quoting: Isis One


Sorcha Fail....bogus report.

Comet ISON Latest observations...updated almost daily:

[link to brucegary.net]


 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


It's not what you say, but how you say it.

I read this thread almost everyday, and I look forward to the findings of all, whether I agree with what they have found, or hypothesis's they may arrive at.

Hugh, you may get frustrated with other people's findings, but it will never compare with the "frustration" I feel when you you cut them down as an "all knowing" authority.

I really hope this does not inhibit anyone here, including the lurkers (I see you wink ) from contributing here.

Until Hugh learns some people skills, we just need to ignore the retorts, and his condescending behavior.

Hugh, you know I love ya, but let me throw this one back at you.


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clappa
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Anyone hear anything about Ison's orbit/trajectory changing? BP linked a Russian report in European agency's ROSCOSMOS, that said Ison seemed to be trying to align with Phobos.
 Quoting: Isis One


Sorcha Fail....bogus report.

Comet ISON Latest observations...updated almost daily:

[link to brucegary.net]

elenin fail
ahhJeez
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


And no offence hugh how do you know these{ [link to brucegary.net] are accurate do you do the math your self to verify??????? or do you just look at a page then COPY AND PASTE the info here lol

It is wrong to take the mickey out of someone for not knowing as much as you hugh i think the word for it is arrogance grinning

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[link to www.solarham.net]

Old 1834 getting ready to turn the corner, time to break out the paddles and give sol a jolt!
“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan
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Old 1834 getting ready to turn the corner, time to break out the paddles and give sol a jolt!
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We r gonna need bigger paddles lol
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[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

finally the x rays flux is rising !

[link to sidc.oma.be]

and we have active regions to view yaaaay

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov] too soon to tell if 1846 has anything to offer

[link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov]

missed by miles..... sigh
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Old 1834 getting ready to turn the corner, time to break out the paddles and give sol a jolt!
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One of those has to pop. I mean come on. Lol.
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Study indicates space weather may be to blame for some satellite failures
Is your cable television on the fritz? One explanation, scientists suspect, may be the weather - the weather in space, that is. MIT researchers are investigating the effects of space weather - such as solar flares, geomagnetic storms and other forms of electromagnetic radiation - on geostationary satellites, which provide much of the world's access to cable television, Internet services and global communications.
The full article is here: [link to www.spacemart.com]
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Study indicates space weather may be to blame for some satellite failures
Is your cable television on the fritz? One explanation, scientists suspect, may be the weather - the weather in space, that is. MIT researchers are investigating the effects of space weather - such as solar flares, geomagnetic storms and other forms of electromagnetic radiation - on geostationary satellites, which provide much of the world's access to cable television, Internet services and global communications.
The full article is here: [link to www.spacemart.com]
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From what I understand, disruptions in the TV satellites are the same as the disruptions in the GOES satellites in the fall and spring equinoxes, which would be now.
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Anyone hear anything about Ison's orbit/trajectory changing? BP linked a Russian report in European agency's ROSCOSMOS, that said Ison seemed to be trying to align with Phobos.
 Quoting: Isis One


Sorcha Fail....bogus report.

Comet ISON Latest observations...updated almost daily:

[link to brucegary.net]

elenin fail
ahhJeez
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


It's not what you say, but how you say it.

I read this thread almost everyday, and I look forward to the findings of all, whether I agree with what they have found, or hypothesis's they may arrive at.

Hugh, you may get frustrated with other people's findings, but it will never compare with the "frustration" I feel when you you cut them down as an "all knowing" authority.

I really hope this does not inhibit anyone here, including the lurkers (I see you wink ) from contributing here.

Until Hugh learns some people skills, we just need to ignore the retorts, and his condescending behavior.

Hugh, you know I love ya, but let me throw this one back at you.

ahhJeez
 Quoting: TS66 46766538


A REBUTTAL & DEFENSE-Christine, if you wanna lurk, lurk; but please don't be a troll!

I wasn't rude or castigating, nor do I have any animosity towards Isis One for her post. I was merely trying to quickly alert the faithful followers of this thread that the cited story is totally bogus info which has been traced back to the disinfo queen Sorcha Faal (known as Sorcha FAIL here at GLP); and has been subsequently picked up by all of the awful pseudo-science YouTubers.

If you're a newbie, here's a brief sketch of this parasite of the internet-

"Sorcha Faal reports sometimes appear on conspiracy forums such as 'some other forum' and Godlike Productions, often after being republished by other websites (such as the European Union Times). Invariably, the following amusing pattern emerges: it usually takes only a few posts before the forumites identify the source and the author and start piling verbal abuse on the idiot reposting such bullshit and on Sorcha Faal herself, often twisting the name into "such a fail" or some variant thereof. The bad news is that this doesn't stop other forum-dwellers from believing it.
Some of the more paranoid conspiracy theorists apparently can't imagine anyone publishing bullshit on the Internet for a mundane reason (such as profit, attention or mental illness) and have developed hilariously unhinged speculations about Sorcha Faal's true identity and motives..."

Get the goods here:
[link to rationalwiki.org]

If you were around for Comet C/2010 X-1 a/k/a ELENIN, the exact same BS was front-page-pinned ad nauseum; ie., Comet was a Brown Dwarf, comet was planet X, comet was maneuvering intelligently-piloted craft, comet had multiple satellites or more alien craft in tow, comet was a harbinger of the Second Coming, etc., etc., etc.

I'm sorry I'm not a reader of Miss Manners or a model of political correctness. This is GLP for crying-out-loud, haha. I try to make a point of fact and not saccharin-coat everything for karma points. I'm sorry if I appear too blunt for you, but when I skip around GLP I can't help but think I'm one of the fairest and least-intimidating posters here. I try to do my best at independent research and I call 'em as I see 'em. Take or leave it....I just try to set the record straight. If anyone disagrees w/me, fine. Just please post YOUR research and links so folks can make up their own mind by evaluating the data and the sources of your data. This is the beauty of a forum like this...and my own mind is not made up about many of these subjects. I try to learn something new everyday and, if I have time, share what I've found with the world.

Now you've just cost me an hour of my precious time to respond to this uncalled-for attack on me. I haven't even checked on any solar data today; AND I have a mind-blowing NASA conspiracy theory to put out there -which will now have to wait for another day. And that's why I called you a troll. Trolls distract one from the real issues and make it about "personalities'.
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Anyone hear anything about Ison's orbit/trajectory changing? BP linked a Russian report in European agency's ROSCOSMOS, that said Ison seemed to be trying to align with Phobos.
 Quoting: Isis One


Sorcha Fail....bogus report.

Comet ISON Latest observations...updated almost daily:

[link to brucegary.net]


 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


It's not what you say, but how you say it.

I read this thread almost everyday, and I look forward to the findings of all, whether I agree with what they have found, or hypothesis's they may arrive at.

Hugh, you may get frustrated with other people's findings, but it will never compare with the "frustration" I feel when you you cut them down as an "all knowing" authority.

I really hope this does not inhibit anyone here, including the lurkers (I see you wink ) from contributing here.

Until Hugh learns some people skills, we just need to ignore the retorts, and his condescending behavior.

Hugh, you know I love ya, but let me throw this one back at you.

:ahhJee
 Quoting: TS66 46766538


A REBUTTAL & DEFENSE-Christine, if you wanna lurk, lurk; but please don't be a troll!

I wasn't rude or castigating, nor do I have any animosity towards Isis One for her post. I was merely trying to quickly alert the faithful followers of this thread that the cited story is totally bogus info which has been traced back to the disinfo queen Sorcha Faal (known as Sorcha FAIL here at GLP); and has been subsequently picked up by all of the awful pseudo-science YouTubers.

If you're a newbie, here's a brief sketch of this parasite of the internet-





I'm sorry I'm not a reader of Miss Manners or a model of political correctness. This is GLP for crying-out-loud, haha. I try to make a point of fact and not saccharin-coat everything for karma points. I'm sorry if I appear too blunt for you, but when I skip around GLP I can't help but think I'm one of the fairest and least-intimidating posters here. I try to do my best at independent research and I call 'em as I see 'em. Take or leave it....I just try to set the record straight. If anyone disagrees w/me, fine. Just please post YOUR research and links so folks can make up their own mind by evaluating the data and the sources of your data. This is the beauty of a forum like this...and my own mind is not made up about many of these subjects. I try to learn something new everyday and, if I have time, share what I've found with the world.

Now you've just cost me an hour of my precious time to respond to this uncalled-for attack on me. I haven't even checked on any solar data today; AND I have a mind-blowing NASA conspiracy theory to put out there -which will now have to wait for another day. And that's why I called you a troll. Trolls distract one from the real issues and make it about "personalities'.

 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


Shes no a freaking "troll" Hugh!!

That was TS66 hf I hope all is well with you TS66!
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GOBEKLI TEPE-No Laughing Matter......Sirius-ly-

Is everyone here familiar with Gobleki Tepe on the Turkish-Syrian border? It is the oldest megalithic structure ever discovered......older than the pyramids, Stonehenge and Moses by thousands of years!

Here's some background info:

[link to gobeklitepe.info]

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

[link to www.smithsonianmag.com]

An interesting theory has the site associated with the first precessional appearance of the incredibly bright star Sirius in the Northern Hemisphere.

The circular stone enclosures known as the temple at Göbekli Tepe in southeastern Turkey remain the oldest of its kind, dating back to around the 10th millennium B.C.

But Göbekli Tepe may also be the world's oldest science building.


Giulio Magli of the Polytechnic University of Milan hypothesizes it may have been built due to the “birth” of a “new” star; the brightest star and fourth brightest object of the sky, what we call Sirius (Greek for "glowing").

Sirius, which we also call the 'dog star' due to its location in the constellation Canis Major, was obviously not born 12,000 years ago, but Hipparchus would not discover the phenomenon of "precession" until 200 BC, when he compared the equinoxes in his time with older charts and made the connection. Precession at the latitude of Göbekli Tepe would have sent Sirius under the viewing horizon of those in ancient Turkey around 15,000 BC, where it remained unseen again until around 9,300 B.C. To those residents it was a new star appearing for the first time.

A fascinating read here:

[link to www.science20.com]
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Ok
On the other hand, I have different fingers.
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[link to www.solarham.net]

Old 1834 getting ready to turn the corner, time to break out the paddles and give sol a jolt!
 Quoting: shadasonic


One of those has to pop. I mean come on. Lol.
 Quoting: #Geomagnetic_Storm#


You would think. I believe sooner than later we'll get a surprise my friend!
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...


Sorcha Fail....bogus report.

Comet ISON Latest observations...updated almost daily:

[link to brucegary.net]


 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


It's not what you say, but how you say it.

I read this thread almost everyday, and I look forward to the findings of all, whether I agree with what they have found, or hypothesis's they may arrive at.

Hugh, you may get frustrated with other people's findings, but it will never compare with the "frustration" I feel when you you cut them down as an "all knowing" authority.

I really hope this does not inhibit anyone here, including the lurkers (I see you wink ) from contributing here.

Until Hugh learns some people skills, we just need to ignore the retorts, and his condescending behavior.

Hugh, you know I love ya, but let me throw this one back at you.

:ahhJee
 Quoting: TS66 46766538


A REBUTTAL & DEFENSE-Christine, if you wanna lurk, lurk; but please don't be a troll!

I wasn't rude or castigating, nor do I have any animosity towards Isis One for her post. I was merely trying to quickly alert the faithful followers of this thread that the cited story is totally bogus info which has been traced back to the disinfo queen Sorcha Faal (known as Sorcha FAIL here at GLP); and has been subsequently picked up by all of the awful pseudo-science YouTubers.

If you're a newbie, here's a brief sketch of this parasite of the internet-





I'm sorry I'm not a reader of Miss Manners or a model of political correctness. This is GLP for crying-out-loud, haha. I try to make a point of fact and not saccharin-coat everything for karma points. I'm sorry if I appear too blunt for you, but when I skip around GLP I can't help but think I'm one of the fairest and least-intimidating posters here. I try to do my best at independent research and I call 'em as I see 'em. Take or leave it....I just try to set the record straight. If anyone disagrees w/me, fine. Just please post YOUR research and links so folks can make up their own mind by evaluating the data and the sources of your data. This is the beauty of a forum like this...and my own mind is not made up about many of these subjects. I try to learn something new everyday and, if I have time, share what I've found with the world.

Now you've just cost me an hour of my precious time to respond to this uncalled-for attack on me. I haven't even checked on any solar data today; AND I have a mind-blowing NASA conspiracy theory to put out there -which will now have to wait for another day. And that's why I called you a troll. Trolls distract one from the real issues and make it about "personalities'.

 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


Shes no a freaking "troll" Hugh!!

That was TS66 hf I hope all is well with you TS66!
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Thanks for your support Detro-mental, LOL....

Internet Troll
An Internet troll, or simply troll in Internet slang, is someone who posts controversial, inflammatory, irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum or chat room, with the primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional response or to generally disrupt normal on-topic discussion.


Looks like she's a very successful one at that!

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GOBEKLI TEPE-No Laughing Matter......Sirius-ly-

Is everyone here familiar with Gobleki Tepe on the Turkish-Syrian border? It is the oldest megalithic structure ever discovered......older than the pyramids, Stonehenge and Moses by thousands of years!

Here's some background info:

[link to gobeklitepe.info]

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

[link to www.smithsonianmag.com]

An interesting theory has the site associated with the first precessional appearance of the incredibly bright star Sirius in the Northern Hemisphere.

The circular stone enclosures known as the temple at Göbekli Tepe in southeastern Turkey remain the oldest of its kind, dating back to around the 10th millennium B.C.

But Göbekli Tepe may also be the world's oldest science building.


Giulio Magli of the Polytechnic University of Milan hypothesizes it may have been built due to the “birth” of a “new” star; the brightest star and fourth brightest object of the sky, what we call Sirius (Greek for "glowing").

Sirius, which we also call the 'dog star' due to its location in the constellation Canis Major, was obviously not born 12,000 years ago, but Hipparchus would not discover the phenomenon of "precession" until 200 BC, when he compared the equinoxes in his time with older charts and made the connection. Precession at the latitude of Göbekli Tepe would have sent Sirius under the viewing horizon of those in ancient Turkey around 15,000 BC, where it remained unseen again until around 9,300 B.C. To those residents it was a new star appearing for the first time.

A fascinating read here:

[link to www.science20.com]
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


Have researched GT over the years and had some tidbits of info hinting at this, very cool read. One day our true earth history will be revealed. Virococha and the sun disciples of Machu Picchu will be known along with many of our old earth saviors. Christ has had many faces!hf
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Wow Hugh, I've never been called a troll before, and have participated on this thread peacefully since, well, before you could read the GOES chart...

My intention was never to inflame a situation, but to diffuse one of your own making.

Thanks Dettro, yes Hugh knows I'm TS66, aka Christine. Just goes to show who you can trust, must have struck a nerve. wink
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Wow Hugh, I've never been called a troll before, and have participated on this thread peacefully since, well, before you could read the GOES chart...

My intention was never to inflame a situation, but to diffuse one of your own making.

Thanks Dettro, yes Hugh knows I'm TS66, aka Christine. Just goes to show who you can trust, must have struck a nerve. wink
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BTW - I don't need your permission to lurk nor contribute anything I want on this thread, take it down a notch Hugh.
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OK, so where were we? Oh, Comet ISON....no it hasn't adjusted its course to rendezvous with Phobos. In fact, NASA is still touting its "Comet of the Century" glory despite of all the data from observers to the contrary. We should see a spectacular show from all of NASA's space-based assets including the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter, Solar Dynamic Observatory, SOHO, STEREO and others. Of course naked-eye visibility is still questionable. If we see a Northern Hemisphere equivalant of Comet Lovejoy, I will be thrilled. Somehow Lovejoy overcame the odds and the 'Roche Limit' by remaining mostly intact after a close encounter with Sol.

The 'Roche Limit' wiki:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

per ISON-

If a comet passes too close to a planet or sun, the gravitational forces can tear it apart - this is called the Roche Limit. The Roche Limit for comets moving around the sun is 1.49 million miles, and Comet Ison will pass within 1.16 million miles - inside the Roche Limit.

It might not break up and we have no concerns. But if it breaks up and spreads out, several things can happen. It can lose speed and be pulled into the sun, or some of the pieces may be pulled into the sun while others escape. Escaping objects will probably be slowed due to the sun’s pull and their outbound speed and trajectories will change, increasing the chance of them crossing the Earth's orbit. Remote - probably. But a chance we should be studying.

Here's why. The real problem comes after Ison goes behind the sun and begins its return trip. When would the comet and/or pieces of comet hit the Earth? And where? Can JPL/NASA give us possible scenarios for comet breakup and potential impact? I think so - not precise, but useful for planning purposes. Then leaders can look at options for possible large-scale evacuations, and staging and storage of food and water. If we are in danger of getting hit by pieces of Ison, we should be planning for it now.
EDIT: {This, to me, is the only potential Doom-Factor from Comet ISON...and it's infinitessimaly remote, though theoretically possible}

[link to www.joelgraves.com]

On November 28, 2013 Comet ISON will be within 800,000 miles (1.2 million km) of the Sun's surface. This will be the closest the comet comes to the Sun. This position in the path of Comet ISON is known as its perihelion. From Earth's perspective, a tight grouping of Saturn and Mercury will be in the vicinity.

Comet ISON will pass within the Roche Limit, which means that the Sun's gravity or temperature may cause Comet ISON to disintegrate. If ISON can survive, it will shed an enormous amount of material and become the most spectacular of all comets in 2013. Some astronomers believe it even has a chance to become the "Comet of the Century" - rivaling Ikeya-Seki, which was the brightest comet in the 20th century.

[link to www.fallofathousandsuns.com]



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It looks like the east limb has some action. Now if it holds out for us to see....
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Wow Hugh, I've never been called a troll before, and have participated on this thread peacefully since, well, before you could read the GOES chart...

My intention was never to inflame a situation, but to diffuse one of your own making.

Thanks Dettro, yes Hugh knows I'm TS66, aka Christine. Just goes to show who you can trust, must have struck a nerve. wink
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awhore
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What is happening to this thread is a shame. I truly care for all my long time friends and new ones. Lack of activity and the inability for us to respect each others views is killing this once, incredible melting pot of physics, astronomica, and spirituality. my goodness guys we've all laughed , cried and shared soooooo much. I've come to realize the only thing I have control of is myself, so I no longer try to influence or control others, it is an act of failure to believe I have any right to do so, and I set myself up for failure to believe otherwise. There have been , are , and will be so many brilliant beautiful people to speak on this thread. Lets enjoy our diversity and celebrate the great minds and hearts that make up this solar family. I love you all!

Hugh, TS may god bless both of you who have given me such insight!

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What is happening to this thread is a shame. I truly care for all my long time friends and new ones. Lack of activity and the inability for us to respect each others views is killing this once, incredible melting pot of physics, astronomica, and spirituality. my goodness guys we've all laughed , cried and shared soooooo much. I've come to realize the only thing I have control of is myself, so I no longer try to influence or control others, it is an act of failure to believe I have any right to do so, and I set myself up for failure to believe otherwise. There have been , are , and will be so many brilliant beautiful people to speak on this thread. Lets enjoy our diversity and celebrate the great minds and hearts that make up this solar family. I love you all!

Hugh, TS may god bless both of you who have given me such insight!
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09/19/2013 12:14 AM
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What is happening to this thread is a shame. I truly care for all my long time friends and new ones. Lack of activity and the inability for us to respect each others views is killing this once, incredible melting pot of physics, astronomica, and spirituality. my goodness guys we've all laughed , cried and shared soooooo much. I've come to realize the only thing I have control of is myself, so I no longer try to influence or control others, it is an act of failure to believe I have any right to do so, and I set myself up for failure to believe otherwise. There have been , are , and will be so many brilliant beautiful people to speak on this thread. Lets enjoy our diversity and celebrate the great minds and hearts that make up this solar family. I love you all!

Hugh, TS may god bless both of you who have given me such insight!
 Quoting: shadasonic


There was a stretch when you two along with SC were the best solar info grouping to be had. We did rip shit and back flip like the jedi for a time, best informative science thread to be found!

Peace and I'm out!

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[link to www.solarham.net]

Old 1834 getting ready to turn the corner, time to break out the paddles and give sol a jolt!
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We r gonna need bigger paddles lol
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That was funny O
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OK, so where were we? Oh, Comet ISON....no it hasn't adjusted its course to rendezvous with Phobos. In fact, NASA is still touting its "Comet of the Century" glory despite of all the data from observers to the contrary. We should see a spectacular show from all of NASA's space-based assets including the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter, Solar Dynamic Observatory, SOHO, STEREO and others. Of course naked-eye visibility is still questionable. If we see a Northern Hemisphere equivalant of Comet Lovejoy, I will be thrilled. Somehow Lovejoy overcame the odds and the 'Roche Limit' by remaining mostly intact after a close encounter with Sol.

The 'Roche Limit' wiki:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

per ISON-

If a comet passes too close to a planet or sun, the gravitational forces can tear it apart - this is called the Roche Limit. The Roche Limit for comets moving around the sun is 1.49 million miles, and Comet Ison will pass within 1.16 million miles - inside the Roche Limit.

It might not break up and we have no concerns. But if it breaks up and spreads out, several things can happen. It can lose speed and be pulled into the sun, or some of the pieces may be pulled into the sun while others escape. Escaping objects will probably be slowed due to the sun’s pull and their outbound speed and trajectories will change, increasing the chance of them crossing the Earth's orbit. Remote - probably. But a chance we should be studying.

Here's why. The real problem comes after Ison goes behind the sun and begins its return trip. When would the comet and/or pieces of comet hit the Earth? And where? Can JPL/NASA give us possible scenarios for comet breakup and potential impact? I think so - not precise, but useful for planning purposes. Then leaders can look at options for possible large-scale evacuations, and staging and storage of food and water. If we are in danger of getting hit by pieces of Ison, we should be planning for it now.
EDIT: {This, to me, is the only potential Doom-Factor from Comet ISON...and it's infinitessimaly remote, though theoretically possible}

[link to www.joelgraves.com]

On November 28, 2013 Comet ISON will be within 800,000 miles (1.2 million km) of the Sun's surface. This will be the closest the comet comes to the Sun. This position in the path of Comet ISON is known as its perihelion. From Earth's perspective, a tight grouping of Saturn and Mercury will be in the vicinity.

Comet ISON will pass within the Roche Limit, which means that the Sun's gravity or temperature may cause Comet ISON to disintegrate. If ISON can survive, it will shed an enormous amount of material and become the most spectacular of all comets in 2013. Some astronomers believe it even has a chance to become the "Comet of the Century" - rivaling Ikeya-Seki, which was the brightest comet in the 20th century.

[link to www.fallofathousandsuns.com]



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Thank you for the informative and civil post. I did not take issue with the other post as I sort of understand your "humor" but thanks also TS66 for recommending a certain level of decorum be maintained amongst ushf so others continue to come here and learn.
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09/19/2013 01:26 AM

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Wow Hugh, I've never been called a troll before, and have participated on this thread peacefully since, well, before you could read the GOES chart...

My intention was never to inflame a situation, but to diffuse one of your own making.

Thanks Dettro, yes Hugh knows I'm TS66, aka Christine. Just goes to show who you can trust, must have struck a nerve. wink
 Quoting: TS66 46766538


awhore
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Oh hell no!!! Let's take a step back and remember this is Nin's thread not yours Hugh. I have been here since the day she started this thread and the one thing she has been firm on is letting people express themselves or their opinions without being harassed or bullied. I don't believe you are the forum moderator either so not sure where your arrogance is coming from. You have contributed much to this thread and I am sure we are all grateful, but don't ruin your contributions with this negative attitude.

You know you can start your own thread on solar issues and rule it how you see fit.
Perfer et Obdura;Dolor hic tibi proderit olim.Fortes Fortuna Iuvat! (Be Patient & Strong; someday this pain will be useful to you. Fortune favors the brave)
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09/19/2013 01:31 AM
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Wow Hugh, I've never been called a troll before, and have participated on this thread peacefully since, well, before you could read the GOES chart...

My intention was never to inflame a situation, but to diffuse one of your own making.

Thanks Dettro, yes Hugh knows I'm TS66, aka Christine. Just goes to show who you can trust, must have struck a nerve. wink
 Quoting: TS66 46766538


awhore
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


Oh hell no!!! Let's take a step back and remember this is Nin's thread not yours Hugh. I have been here since the day she started this thread and the one thing she has been firm on is letting people express themselves or their opinions without being harassed or bullied. I don't believe you are the forum moderator either so not sure where your arrogance is coming from. You have contributed much to this thread and I am sure we are all grateful, but don't ruin your contributions with this negative attitude.

You know you can start your own thread on solar issues and rule it how you see fit.
 Quoting: Vesper33


true...
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lol tought there were no activity on the thread cause there was no solar activity


im so doomed!!!
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Thanks for your support Detro-mental, LOL....


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Just because things are not working out for you in real life,

doesn't mean you can take out frustration here ,Dickhead!
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