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shadasonic User ID: 41520215 United States 09/18/2013 09:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | GOBEKLI TEPE-No Laughing Matter......Sirius-ly- Quoting: Hugh M Eye Is everyone here familiar with Gobleki Tepe on the Turkish-Syrian border? It is the oldest megalithic structure ever discovered......older than the pyramids, Stonehenge and Moses by thousands of years! Here's some background info: [link to gobeklitepe.info] [link to en.wikipedia.org] [link to www.smithsonianmag.com] An interesting theory has the site associated with the first precessional appearance of the incredibly bright star Sirius in the Northern Hemisphere. The circular stone enclosures known as the temple at Göbekli Tepe in southeastern Turkey remain the oldest of its kind, dating back to around the 10th millennium B.C. But Göbekli Tepe may also be the world's oldest science building. Giulio Magli of the Polytechnic University of Milan hypothesizes it may have been built due to the “birth” of a “new” star; the brightest star and fourth brightest object of the sky, what we call Sirius (Greek for "glowing"). Sirius, which we also call the 'dog star' due to its location in the constellation Canis Major, was obviously not born 12,000 years ago, but Hipparchus would not discover the phenomenon of "precession" until 200 BC, when he compared the equinoxes in his time with older charts and made the connection. Precession at the latitude of Göbekli Tepe would have sent Sirius under the viewing horizon of those in ancient Turkey around 15,000 BC, where it remained unseen again until around 9,300 B.C. To those residents it was a new star appearing for the first time. A fascinating read here: [link to www.science20.com] Have researched GT over the years and had some tidbits of info hinting at this, very cool read. One day our true earth history will be revealed. Virococha and the sun disciples of Machu Picchu will be known along with many of our old earth saviors. Christ has had many faces! “One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan |
TS66 User ID: 46766538 United States 09/18/2013 09:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow Hugh, I've never been called a troll before, and have participated on this thread peacefully since, well, before you could read the GOES chart... My intention was never to inflame a situation, but to diffuse one of your own making. Thanks Dettro, yes Hugh knows I'm TS66, aka Christine. Just goes to show who you can trust, must have struck a nerve. |
TS66 User ID: 46766538 United States 09/18/2013 10:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow Hugh, I've never been called a troll before, and have participated on this thread peacefully since, well, before you could read the GOES chart... Quoting: TS66 46766538 My intention was never to inflame a situation, but to diffuse one of your own making. Thanks Dettro, yes Hugh knows I'm TS66, aka Christine. Just goes to show who you can trust, must have struck a nerve. BTW - I don't need your permission to lurk nor contribute anything I want on this thread, take it down a notch Hugh. |
Hugh M Eye User ID: 39479530 United States 09/18/2013 10:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OK, so where were we? Oh, Comet ISON....no it hasn't adjusted its course to rendezvous with Phobos. In fact, NASA is still touting its "Comet of the Century" glory despite of all the data from observers to the contrary. We should see a spectacular show from all of NASA's space-based assets including the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter, Solar Dynamic Observatory, SOHO, STEREO and others. Of course naked-eye visibility is still questionable. If we see a Northern Hemisphere equivalant of Comet Lovejoy, I will be thrilled. Somehow Lovejoy overcame the odds and the 'Roche Limit' by remaining mostly intact after a close encounter with Sol. The 'Roche Limit' wiki: [link to en.wikipedia.org] per ISON- If a comet passes too close to a planet or sun, the gravitational forces can tear it apart - this is called the Roche Limit. The Roche Limit for comets moving around the sun is 1.49 million miles, and Comet Ison will pass within 1.16 million miles - inside the Roche Limit. It might not break up and we have no concerns. But if it breaks up and spreads out, several things can happen. It can lose speed and be pulled into the sun, or some of the pieces may be pulled into the sun while others escape. Escaping objects will probably be slowed due to the sun’s pull and their outbound speed and trajectories will change, increasing the chance of them crossing the Earth's orbit. Remote - probably. But a chance we should be studying. Here's why. The real problem comes after Ison goes behind the sun and begins its return trip. When would the comet and/or pieces of comet hit the Earth? And where? Can JPL/NASA give us possible scenarios for comet breakup and potential impact? I think so - not precise, but useful for planning purposes. Then leaders can look at options for possible large-scale evacuations, and staging and storage of food and water. If we are in danger of getting hit by pieces of Ison, we should be planning for it now. EDIT: {This, to me, is the only potential Doom-Factor from Comet ISON...and it's infinitessimaly remote, though theoretically possible} [link to www.joelgraves.com] On November 28, 2013 Comet ISON will be within 800,000 miles (1.2 million km) of the Sun's surface. This will be the closest the comet comes to the Sun. This position in the path of Comet ISON is known as its perihelion. From Earth's perspective, a tight grouping of Saturn and Mercury will be in the vicinity. Comet ISON will pass within the Roche Limit, which means that the Sun's gravity or temperature may cause Comet ISON to disintegrate. If ISON can survive, it will shed an enormous amount of material and become the most spectacular of all comets in 2013. Some astronomers believe it even has a chance to become the "Comet of the Century" - rivaling Ikeya-Seki, which was the brightest comet in the 20th century. [link to www.fallofathousandsuns.com] [link to www.youtube.com] Last Edited by Hugh M Eye on 09/18/2013 10:33 PM |
joinca User ID: 46553057 United States 09/18/2013 10:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It looks like the east limb has some action. Now if it holds out for us to see.... [link to proba2.sidc.be] "The government will one day be corrupt and full of liars, and the people will flock to the one that tells the truth." - “Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the citizenry.” - "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." - "I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them." - "A Country with no Border, is not a country" -- Thomas Jefferson We MUST NEVER forget what Kamala Harris did to Justice Kavanaugh & his family! |
Hugh M Eye User ID: 39479530 United States 09/18/2013 10:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow Hugh, I've never been called a troll before, and have participated on this thread peacefully since, well, before you could read the GOES chart... Quoting: TS66 46766538 My intention was never to inflame a situation, but to diffuse one of your own making. Thanks Dettro, yes Hugh knows I'm TS66, aka Christine. Just goes to show who you can trust, must have struck a nerve. |
shadasonic User ID: 41520215 United States 09/19/2013 12:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What is happening to this thread is a shame. I truly care for all my long time friends and new ones. Lack of activity and the inability for us to respect each others views is killing this once, incredible melting pot of physics, astronomica, and spirituality. my goodness guys we've all laughed , cried and shared soooooo much. I've come to realize the only thing I have control of is myself, so I no longer try to influence or control others, it is an act of failure to believe I have any right to do so, and I set myself up for failure to believe otherwise. There have been , are , and will be so many brilliant beautiful people to speak on this thread. Lets enjoy our diversity and celebrate the great minds and hearts that make up this solar family. I love you all! Hugh, TS may god bless both of you who have given me such insight! Last Edited by Thinking out loud on 09/19/2013 12:06 AM “One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan |
ExploringTheTruth User ID: 46934161 Indonesia 09/19/2013 12:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What is happening to this thread is a shame. I truly care for all my long time friends and new ones. Lack of activity and the inability for us to respect each others views is killing this once, incredible melting pot of physics, astronomica, and spirituality. my goodness guys we've all laughed , cried and shared soooooo much. I've come to realize the only thing I have control of is myself, so I no longer try to influence or control others, it is an act of failure to believe I have any right to do so, and I set myself up for failure to believe otherwise. There have been , are , and will be so many brilliant beautiful people to speak on this thread. Lets enjoy our diversity and celebrate the great minds and hearts that make up this solar family. I love you all! Quoting: shadasonic Hugh, TS may god bless both of you who have given me such insight! ExploringTheTruth. 'If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; But if you really make them think, they'll hate you.' - Don Marquis. "Real eyes realize real lies" |
shadasonic User ID: 41520215 United States 09/19/2013 12:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What is happening to this thread is a shame. I truly care for all my long time friends and new ones. Lack of activity and the inability for us to respect each others views is killing this once, incredible melting pot of physics, astronomica, and spirituality. my goodness guys we've all laughed , cried and shared soooooo much. I've come to realize the only thing I have control of is myself, so I no longer try to influence or control others, it is an act of failure to believe I have any right to do so, and I set myself up for failure to believe otherwise. There have been , are , and will be so many brilliant beautiful people to speak on this thread. Lets enjoy our diversity and celebrate the great minds and hearts that make up this solar family. I love you all! Quoting: shadasonic Hugh, TS may god bless both of you who have given me such insight! There was a stretch when you two along with SC were the best solar info grouping to be had. We did rip shit and back flip like the jedi for a time, best informative science thread to be found! Peace and I'm out! Last Edited by Thinking out loud on 09/19/2013 12:14 AM “One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan |
Isis One User ID: 14343270 United States 09/19/2013 12:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.solarham.net] Quoting: shadasonic Old 1834 getting ready to turn the corner, time to break out the paddles and give sol a jolt! We r gonna need bigger paddles lol That was funny O Spread the word, change the collective conscious...... THERE IS MORE THAN ENOUGH OF EVERYTHING TO GO AROUND When you are undisciplined, the universe is extremely forgiving and when you are disciplined, the universe is extremely generous. Me One doesn't discover new lands without consenting to lose sight, for a very long time, of the shore. Andre Gide [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
Isis One User ID: 14343270 United States 09/19/2013 01:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OK, so where were we? Oh, Comet ISON....no it hasn't adjusted its course to rendezvous with Phobos. In fact, NASA is still touting its "Comet of the Century" glory despite of all the data from observers to the contrary. We should see a spectacular show from all of NASA's space-based assets including the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter, Solar Dynamic Observatory, SOHO, STEREO and others. Of course naked-eye visibility is still questionable. If we see a Northern Hemisphere equivalant of Comet Lovejoy, I will be thrilled. Somehow Lovejoy overcame the odds and the 'Roche Limit' by remaining mostly intact after a close encounter with Sol. Quoting: Hugh M Eye The 'Roche Limit' wiki: [link to en.wikipedia.org] per ISON- If a comet passes too close to a planet or sun, the gravitational forces can tear it apart - this is called the Roche Limit. The Roche Limit for comets moving around the sun is 1.49 million miles, and Comet Ison will pass within 1.16 million miles - inside the Roche Limit. It might not break up and we have no concerns. But if it breaks up and spreads out, several things can happen. It can lose speed and be pulled into the sun, or some of the pieces may be pulled into the sun while others escape. Escaping objects will probably be slowed due to the sun’s pull and their outbound speed and trajectories will change, increasing the chance of them crossing the Earth's orbit. Remote - probably. But a chance we should be studying. Here's why. The real problem comes after Ison goes behind the sun and begins its return trip. When would the comet and/or pieces of comet hit the Earth? And where? Can JPL/NASA give us possible scenarios for comet breakup and potential impact? I think so - not precise, but useful for planning purposes. Then leaders can look at options for possible large-scale evacuations, and staging and storage of food and water. If we are in danger of getting hit by pieces of Ison, we should be planning for it now. EDIT: {This, to me, is the only potential Doom-Factor from Comet ISON...and it's infinitessimaly remote, though theoretically possible} [link to www.joelgraves.com] On November 28, 2013 Comet ISON will be within 800,000 miles (1.2 million km) of the Sun's surface. This will be the closest the comet comes to the Sun. This position in the path of Comet ISON is known as its perihelion. From Earth's perspective, a tight grouping of Saturn and Mercury will be in the vicinity. Comet ISON will pass within the Roche Limit, which means that the Sun's gravity or temperature may cause Comet ISON to disintegrate. If ISON can survive, it will shed an enormous amount of material and become the most spectacular of all comets in 2013. Some astronomers believe it even has a chance to become the "Comet of the Century" - rivaling Ikeya-Seki, which was the brightest comet in the 20th century. [link to www.fallofathousandsuns.com] [link to www.youtube.com] Thank you for the informative and civil post. I did not take issue with the other post as I sort of understand your "humor" but thanks also TS66 for recommending a certain level of decorum be maintained amongst us so others continue to come here and learn. Spread the word, change the collective conscious...... THERE IS MORE THAN ENOUGH OF EVERYTHING TO GO AROUND When you are undisciplined, the universe is extremely forgiving and when you are disciplined, the universe is extremely generous. Me One doesn't discover new lands without consenting to lose sight, for a very long time, of the shore. Andre Gide [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
Vesper33 User ID: 37459546 United States 09/19/2013 01:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow Hugh, I've never been called a troll before, and have participated on this thread peacefully since, well, before you could read the GOES chart... Quoting: TS66 46766538 My intention was never to inflame a situation, but to diffuse one of your own making. Thanks Dettro, yes Hugh knows I'm TS66, aka Christine. Just goes to show who you can trust, must have struck a nerve. Oh hell no!!! Let's take a step back and remember this is Nin's thread not yours Hugh. I have been here since the day she started this thread and the one thing she has been firm on is letting people express themselves or their opinions without being harassed or bullied. I don't believe you are the forum moderator either so not sure where your arrogance is coming from. You have contributed much to this thread and I am sure we are all grateful, but don't ruin your contributions with this negative attitude. You know you can start your own thread on solar issues and rule it how you see fit. Perfer et Obdura;Dolor hic tibi proderit olim.Fortes Fortuna Iuvat! (Be Patient & Strong; someday this pain will be useful to you. Fortune favors the brave) |
Cos User ID: 47094270 Portugal 09/19/2013 01:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow Hugh, I've never been called a troll before, and have participated on this thread peacefully since, well, before you could read the GOES chart... Quoting: TS66 46766538 My intention was never to inflame a situation, but to diffuse one of your own making. Thanks Dettro, yes Hugh knows I'm TS66, aka Christine. Just goes to show who you can trust, must have struck a nerve. Oh hell no!!! Let's take a step back and remember this is Nin's thread not yours Hugh. I have been here since the day she started this thread and the one thing she has been firm on is letting people express themselves or their opinions without being harassed or bullied. I don't believe you are the forum moderator either so not sure where your arrogance is coming from. You have contributed much to this thread and I am sure we are all grateful, but don't ruin your contributions with this negative attitude. You know you can start your own thread on solar issues and rule it how you see fit. true... |
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#Geomagnetic_Storm# User ID: 44557506 United States 09/19/2013 05:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Filament eruption near the SE part of the disk. [link to halpha.nso.edu] Last Edited by Bomb Cyclone on 09/19/2013 05:49 AM |
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optimum judgment User ID: 24021617 United Kingdom 09/19/2013 08:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | GOBEKLI TEPE-No Laughing Matter......Sirius-ly- Quoting: Hugh M Eye Is everyone here familiar with Gobleki Tepe on the Turkish-Syrian border? It is the oldest megalithic structure ever discovered......older than the pyramids, Stonehenge and Moses by thousands of years! Here's some background info: [link to gobeklitepe.info] [link to en.wikipedia.org] [link to www.smithsonianmag.com] An interesting theory has the site associated with the first precessional appearance of the incredibly bright star Sirius in the Northern Hemisphere. The circular stone enclosures known as the temple at Göbekli Tepe in southeastern Turkey remain the oldest of its kind, dating back to around the 10th millennium B.C. But Göbekli Tepe may also be the world's oldest science building. Giulio Magli of the Polytechnic University of Milan hypothesizes it may have been built due to the “birth” of a “new” star; the brightest star and fourth brightest object of the sky, what we call Sirius (Greek for "glowing"). Sirius, which we also call the 'dog star' due to its location in the constellation Canis Major, was obviously not born 12,000 years ago, but Hipparchus would not discover the phenomenon of "precession" until 200 BC, when he compared the equinoxes in his time with older charts and made the connection. Precession at the latitude of Göbekli Tepe would have sent Sirius under the viewing horizon of those in ancient Turkey around 15,000 BC, where it remained unseen again until around 9,300 B.C. To those residents it was a new star appearing for the first time. A fascinating read here: [link to www.science20.com] Awesome post hugh most enlightening.. |
optimum judgment User ID: 24021617 United Kingdom 09/19/2013 08:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | wont let me hand out the green to the solar buffs. geo ,hugh isis, ninz ,louis ,shsds,ill try l8r lol ps if i mised you off the list soz Last Edited by optimum judgment on 09/19/2013 08:40 AM |
miabelieves User ID: 37553176 United States 09/19/2013 10:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow Hugh, I've never been called a troll before, and have participated on this thread peacefully since, well, before you could read the GOES chart... Quoting: TS66 46766538 My intention was never to inflame a situation, but to diffuse one of your own making. Thanks Dettro, yes Hugh knows I'm TS66, aka Christine. Just goes to show who you can trust, must have struck a nerve. Oh hell no!!! Let's take a step back and remember this is Nin's thread not yours Hugh. I have been here since the day she started this thread and the one thing she has been firm on is letting people express themselves or their opinions without being harassed or bullied. I don't believe you are the forum moderator either so not sure where your arrogance is coming from. You have contributed much to this thread and I am sure we are all grateful, but don't ruin your contributions with this negative attitude. You know you can start your own thread on solar issues and rule it how you see fit. Last Edited by miabelieves on 09/19/2013 10:05 AM Hold on to your undies, it's gonna be a hell of a ride |