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SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily)

 
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that doesn't look right ?
[link to www2.nict.go.jp]
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Earth is very well protected hemmm????
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Check out the magnetic field as of right now. (2:59 pm cst)

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whoa..
 Quoting: fantabulistic


mhh....whats that?!
 Quoting: IwantToBelieve76



IDk.. but I am definitively thinking it might mean some possible major earth shaking later..
 Quoting: fantabulistic


It is looking like this today as a result of a magnetic substrom. We see this happen often after a bad solar storm
the CME's that hit yesterday came in so hard that they created whats known as Magnetotail Reconnection and thus caused a substorm

i can't stand wiki, but it gives the simplest explanation of this
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
"A magnetic tail or magnetotail is formed by pressure from the solar wind on a planet's magnetosphere. The magnetotail can extend great distances away from its originating planet. Earth's magnetic tail extends at least 200 Earth radii in the anti-sunward direction well beyond the orbit of the Moon at about 60 Earth radii.
The extended magnetotail results from the energy stored in the planet's magnetic field. At times this energy is released and the magnetic field becomes temporarily more dipole-like. As it does so that stored energy goes to energize plasma trapped on the involved magnetic field lines. Some of that plasma is driven tailward and into the distant solar wind. The rest is injected into the inner magnetosphere where it results in the aurora and the ring current plasma population."

This is known as a Magnetic Substorm
The more common one occurs when the north-south component Bz of the interplanetary magnetic field (IMF) is appreciable and points southward. In this state field lines of the magnetosphere are relatively strongly linked to the IMF, allowing energy and plasma to enter it at relatively high rates. This swells up the magnetotail and makes it unstable. Ultimately the tail's structure changes abruptly and violently, a process known as a magnetic substorm.

One possible scenario (the subject is still debated) is as follows. As the magnetotail swells, it creates a wider obstacle to the solar wind flow, causing its widening portion to be squeezed more by the solar wind. In the end, this squeezing breaks apart field lines in the plasma sheet ("magnetic reconnection"), and the distant part of the sheet, no longer attached to the Earth, is swept away as an independent magnetic structure ("plasmoid"). The near-Earth part snaps back earthwards, energizing its particles and producing Birkeland currents and bright auroras

This is why we see the magnetosphere acting eratic today, when by now, it should be calm since the CME's from yesterday have are gone
The CME's have come and gone, and what we are seeing now is the substorm that was created by the CMEs

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Big thx NINz!

okay now i get it
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Can anyone tell me if the induction magnetometer at the HAARP website is affected by this kind of solar activity?

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I ask because the charts look eerily similar to the days leading up to the EQ in japan...
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I pulled these up for everyone to see the magnetosphere for the 3 days prior to the Japan quake of March 11th
here is March 8th, 9th and 10th


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here is for March 11th, the day of the quake


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now here is for the last few days


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this next one shows yesterdays CME's arrive

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here is a video explination of what you are looking at :)

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IA. Analysis of Solar Active Regions and Activity from 05/2100Z
to 06/2100Z: Solar activity was low. The largest event of the
period was a C4/Sf flare from Region 1267 (S17E13). This region
developed a small delta in the central spot. Region 1263, an Ekc
spot class with a Beta-Gamma-Delta magnetic configuration, lost some
penumbral area in its central spots, however it developed new spots
as flux began to emerge from its trailer area. SOHO/LASCO C2
imagery observed two slow moving CMEs at 1036Z and 1736Z with the
majority of the ejecta directed off the West limb. SDO and SXI
imagery showed filament eruptions associated with the events. These
CMEs are not expected to be geoeffective.

IIB. Geophysical Activity Forecast: The geomagnetic field is
expected to be unsettled to active on 07 August as a recurrent
coronal hole high speed stream is expected to become geoeffective.
Levels are expected to decrease to quiet to unsettled on 08 August.
Mostly quiet conditions are expected on 09 August.

III. Event Probabilities 07 Aug-09 Aug
Class M 45/45/35
Class X 10/10/05
Proton 10/10/05
PCAF green

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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Uhmmm isn't NASA supposed to release HD pics of Elenin today?
"The world will not be destroyed by evil, it will be destroyed by the ones who do nothing to stop the evil."
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Starting to heat back up again!!!!!

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STORM ALERT!!!

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Starting to heat back up again!!!!!

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STORM ALERT!!!

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 Quoting: lindalou630


Space Weather Message Code: WARK04
Serial Number: 1789
Issue Time: 2011 Aug 06 2251 UTC


WARNING: Geomagnetic K-index of 4 expected
Valid From: 2011 Aug 06 2330 UTC
Valid To: 2011 Aug 07 0600 UTC
Warning Condition: Onset



-------------------------------------------------------------​-------------------

Space Weather Message Code: WARK04
Serial Number: 1788
Issue Time: 2011 Aug 06 1140 UTC


EXTENDED WARNING: Geomagnetic K-index of 4 expected
Extension to Serial Number: 1787
Valid From: 2011 Aug 05 1727 UTC
Now Valid Until: 2011 Aug 06 1800 UTC
Warning Condition: Persistence



-------------------------------------------------------------​-------------------

Space Weather Message Code: SUMPX1
Serial Number: 45
Issue Time: 2011 Aug 06 0816 UTC


SUMMARY: Proton Event 10MeV Integral Flux exceeded 10pfu
Begin Time: 2011 Aug 04 0635 UTC
Maximum Time: 2011 Aug 05 2150 UTC
End Time: 2011 Aug 06 0515 UTC
Maximum 10MeV Flux: 96 pfu
NOAA Scale: S1 - Minor
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Uhmmm isn't NASA supposed to release HD pics of Elenin today?
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we got 1
i think thats all were going to get :/
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Uhmmm isn't NASA supposed to release HD pics of Elenin today?
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we got 1
i think thats all were going to get :/
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not surprised are you
hf
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sorry i just left last night everyone
i passed out sitting here at the PC haha
some much needed sleep caught up with me
looks like power is still on ^^

here is a great video that i saw today
it shows just how small earth is in comparison to other planets, the sun and the universe


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I wonderd what happened to you. I figured you went out to check out the sky. I had to go to bed myself as I was wore out.

That is a cool video, isn't it?; it really gives a good visual perspective.

as far as quake activity and these CMEs
we have been talking some over the last few days about the Japan event
what we saw before japan was a lot of similar sun activity as we have been seeing over the last week
with japan, the solar activity

here is the part in this thread that is from March 8th, 3 days before japan
Thread: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily) (Page 18)

just take a minute to scroll through and fast read things that were going on then

here is a video that tom put together for the solar events in the days just prior to japan

tom had posted this video on this thread on March 8th





the Global D absorbtion map had turned red in the polar regions and we talked about that on the quite a bit, here is us talking about this on March 10th
Thread: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily) (Page 26)
you can see there on the thread that we were being hit by CME's in the days before japan with the Kp getting to a 5 on March 10th and a mid latitude aurora alert in effect
Thread: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily) (Page 27)

and an article about the X fares
Thread: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily) (Page 28)

so far, all the solar events over this week have mirrored what we saw in the days just prior to the March 11th Japan event
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This video wasn't showing up,I think I fixed it...:)

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Significant precursor signal seen at 0230utc/2230est. Possible 6+.

Radio Direction Finder has signal coming in South East of France from somewhere out in the Mid to Southern portions of the Pacific plate to Chile to Caribbean Islands.
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Significant precursor signal seen at 0230utc/2230est. Possible 6+.

Radio Direction Finder has signal coming in South East of France from somewhere out in the Mid to Southern portions of the Pacific plate to Chile to Caribbean Islands.
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Uhmmm isn't NASA supposed to release HD pics of Elenin today?
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we got 1
i think thats all were going to get :/
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not surprised are you
hf
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nope, not at all cool2
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sorry i just left last night everyone
i passed out sitting here at the PC haha
some much needed sleep caught up with me
looks like power is still on ^^

here is a great video that i saw today
it shows just how small earth is in comparison to other planets, the sun and the universe


[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: NiNzrez



I wonderd what happened to you. I figured you went out to check out the sky. I had to go to bed myself as I was wore out.

That is a cool video, isn't it?; it really gives a good visual perspective.

as far as quake activity and these CMEs
we have been talking some over the last few days about the Japan event
what we saw before japan was a lot of similar sun activity as we have been seeing over the last week
with japan, the solar activity

here is the part in this thread that is from March 8th, 3 days before japan
Thread: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily) (Page 18)

just take a minute to scroll through and fast read things that were going on then

here is a video that tom put together for the solar events in the days just prior to japan

tom had posted this video on this thread on March 8th





the Global D absorbtion map had turned red in the polar regions and we talked about that on the quite a bit, here is us talking about this on March 10th
Thread: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily) (Page 26)
you can see there on the thread that we were being hit by CME's in the days before japan with the Kp getting to a 5 on March 10th and a mid latitude aurora alert in effect
Thread: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily) (Page 27)

and an article about the X fares
Thread: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily) (Page 28)

so far, all the solar events over this week have mirrored what we saw in the days just prior to the March 11th Japan event
 Quoting: NiNzrez


This video wasn't showing up,I think I fixed it...:)
 Quoting: tomasgod1


the skys here did not have anything, but there was a super thick overcast
tonight we have fog everywhere
very odd weather
sorry you did not get to see the auroras... maybe next time ;)
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Significant precursor signal seen at 0230utc/2230est. Possible 6+.

Radio Direction Finder has signal coming in South East of France from somewhere out in the Mid to Southern portions of the Pacific plate to Chile to Caribbean Islands.
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popcorn
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afternoon everyone :)
wow, no one around
i can almost hear crickets haha
everyone wore out from all the excitement the other night?

ninzard
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afternoon everyone :)
wow, no one around
i can almost hear crickets haha
everyone wore out from all the excitement the other night?

:ninzard:
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hi
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afternoon everyone :)
wow, no one around
i can almost hear crickets haha
everyone wore out from all the excitement the other night?

ninzard
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suden stop the SUN?

the energys arrive were strong no doubt...

the world proton jumped...


:)

afternoon Niin Tx
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Hello all! Happy Sunday to you!

OK, I have a question, which is not directly solar related, I think. However, I heard about this on a solar watchers page on facebook, so I figured this may be the place to ask.

What exactly is dresden codex? I saw it mentioned, and I looked it up, but I was hoping someone could break it down for me, in laymen's terms.

The actual question someone had asked, which brought up dresden codex was, why is this solar cycle so significant, compared to others in the past. In the answer, the respondent mentioned the dresden codex.

Just curious. I can figure some of it out from looking up, but I would love to hear someone's interpretation of it. Helps me to understand somewhat better.

Thanks in advance!

(I wanted to include, Nin, if you want to delete this post, as it doesn't directly have to do with the sun, I understand completely! :) I just figured I would ask.)
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Hi All. Happy Sunday. There is a nice little read about the dresden codex in wikipedia.
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Did something happen? I am feeling it in my face, sinus, feel like I have a persian cat nose....woke me up. Also feels like something is pushing me down, like heavy gravity, maybe.
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Did something happen? I am feeling it in my face, sinus, feel like I have a persian cat nose....woke me up. Also feels like something is pushing me down, like heavy gravity, maybe.
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most my friends are having the same odd symptoms today
much like they did right before the japan event
we are all on high watch
i am feeling very super anxious, shakey, like you get when you drink way way to much caffine.
i felt like this for 2 days prior to japan
take it for what its worth
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Hello all! Happy Sunday to you!

OK, I have a question, which is not directly solar related, I think. However, I heard about this on a solar watchers page on facebook, so I figured this may be the place to ask.

What exactly is dresden codex? I saw it mentioned, and I looked it up, but I was hoping someone could break it down for me, in laymen's terms.

The actual question someone had asked, which brought up dresden codex was, why is this solar cycle so significant, compared to others in the past. In the answer, the respondent mentioned the dresden codex.

Just curious. I can figure some of it out from looking up, but I would love to hear someone's interpretation of it. Helps me to understand somewhat better.

Thanks in advance!

(I wanted to include, Nin, if you want to delete this post, as it doesn't directly have to do with the sun, I understand completely! :) I just figured I would ask.)
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sad to say i have not researched much into this subject so really do not have an opinion at this time
maybe someone else?
i will however now look into this :)

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Did something happen? I am feeling it in my face, sinus, feel like I have a persian cat nose....woke me up. Also feels like something is pushing me down, like heavy gravity, maybe.
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most my friends are having the same odd symptoms today
much like they did right before the japan event
we are all on high watch
i am feeling very super anxious, shakey, like you get when you drink way way to much caffine.
i felt like this for 2 days prior to japan
take it for what its worth
 Quoting: NiNzrez


I'm feeling burnt.... just got back from running my boat on the lake.... sun is intense.

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Did something happen? I am feeling it in my face, sinus, feel like I have a persian cat nose....woke me up. Also feels like something is pushing me down, like heavy gravity, maybe.
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most my friends are having the same odd symptoms today
much like they did right before the japan event
we are all on high watch
i am feeling very super anxious, shakey, like you get when you drink way way to much caffine.
i felt like this for 2 days prior to japan
take it for what its worth
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I'm feeling burnt.... just got back from running my boat on the lake.... sun is intense.
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During a visit to my parents about 2 weeks ago (they live in a farming community), I asked a neighbor of theirs (works out in the fields during the day) if she had noticed a difference in the intensity of the suns rays, she said YES. The only part of her skin exposed to the sun during the day is the upper portion of her face (eyes). She said the sun burns terribly, especially this year.
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