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SOLAR WATCH * 312 M & 25 X FLARES starting 3-7-2011 (Updated Daily)

 
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Is this relevant?

[link to science1.nasa.gov]
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Which SUN ART do you like better? Top or Bottom?
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Hard to choose, but I'll say top. they're awesome Hugh.
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Is possible that from the center of main sunspot AR11899 grow an inverse polarity? because I never have saw it.

IMAGE ( [link to imageshack.us] )

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Good eye AC9113, I've never seen that.
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Is possible that from the center of main sunspot AR11899 grow an inverse polarity? because I never have saw it.

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sure appears that way, great catch
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Agreed. A very interesting find there! I've never seen anything like it either. The big spot shows no visible signs of cleaving or anything. I would tend to think that the opposite polarity in such an intense field would cause a nasty short-circuit. AR1899 has gone into a coma today, but we'll have to keep a close eye on that one.

That tiny region 1900, besides producing 2 M-flares, has been churning out flares with regularity. It has been responsible for 8 of the last 10 C-flares, while his big brother 1893 has been very quiet.
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Is this relevant?

[link to science1.nasa.gov]
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Howdy hi, thanks for the post. It's not really relevant to this sunspot, but I bookmarked it because eventually we'll start seeing 'backward sunspots'. Lots of good info there, but it's still funny how they hyped Cycle 24 as a potentially hyper-active one. A big NASA fail on that prediction, lol. Thanks again for the link!
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C4.7 and up
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C9.4 and up
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Impulsive M1.0 from AR11900
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Impulsive M1.0 from AR11900
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wooo hoooo!!
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Is possible that from the center of main sunspot AR11899 grow an inverse polarity? because I never have saw it.

IMAGE ( [link to imageshack.us] )

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28239113


to me looks like an eye like comparing it to a hurricane when there is a tight eye in the center..


someone should upload this and put it up
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Astounding amount of activity from such a small region. I've been waiting for 1897 or 1899 to spark up a bit ...but no dice.

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Is possible that from the center of main sunspot AR11899 grow an inverse polarity? because I never have saw it.

IMAGE ( [link to imageshack.us] )

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28239113


to me looks like an eye like comparing it to a hurricane when there is a tight eye in the center..


someone should upload this and put it up
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I'm trying to make a smilie, how do you reduce the KB's? I got the pixels down but it says 200KB is the limit and the image says its 767.6KB.
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Is possible that from the center of main sunspot AR11899 grow an inverse polarity? because I never have saw it.

IMAGE ( [link to imageshack.us] )

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to me looks like an eye like comparing it to a hurricane when there is a tight eye in the center..


someone should upload this and put it up
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Here's the latest magnetogram for AR1899-
11/17-1899mag

Same region 2 days ago also shows a ring, but no green in the 'eye of the hurricane'-
:11/15-1899mag:

Magnetogram for the little sparkplug AR1900-
:11/17-1900mag:
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Astounding amount of activity from such a small region. I've been waiting for 1897 or 1899 to spark up a bit ...but no dice.

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Magnetic loop's reconnection only in 1897 and 1899

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Is possible that from the center of main sunspot AR11899 grow an inverse polarity? because I never have saw it.

IMAGE ( [link to imageshack.us] )

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to me looks like an eye like comparing it to a hurricane when there is a tight eye in the center..


someone should upload this and put it up
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20368566


Here's the latest magnetogram for AR1899-
11/17-1899mag

Same region 2 days ago also shows a ring, but no green in the 'eye of the hurricane'-
:11/15-1899mag:

Magnetogram for the little sparkplug AR1900-
:11/17-1900mag:
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


You are a master with those solar smilies. How'd you get it to fit?
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Is possible that from the center of main sunspot AR11899 grow an inverse polarity? because I never have saw it.

IMAGE ( [link to imageshack.us] )

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28239113


to me looks like an eye like comparing it to a hurricane when there is a tight eye in the center..


someone should upload this and put it up
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I'm trying to make a smilie, how do you reduce the KB's? I got the pixels down but it says 200KB is the limit and the image says its 767.6KB.
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Usually, if it's a tiff, gif, or png file you have to convert it (or 'save as..') to a jpeg image.
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thanks for posting it

very cool image I dont think ive seen anything like it before
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I think so that the X-ray flux background is a bit elevated (C1.8), maybe another flare is possible.
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[link to www.gdgps.net]
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Nice CME headed south of the ecliptic. Hey, isn't that where ISON is?

Look Out, ISON!

[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

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Is possible that from the center of main sunspot AR11899 grow an inverse polarity? because I never have saw it.

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I don't know if it has been seen before?
But it sure is interesting thank's.
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Good morning all. Group Hug
I stayed up all night to see where the sun went. Then it dawned on me.
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Great shot of 1899 ... I've never seen that before either ... looks to be almost a "layered effect" Polarities layered rather than side by side ???

The idea or theory, that it takes a large SR to create or has more potential of creating a large flare, passed me by a year or so ago. We've watch so many monsters pass with incredible expectation to see ... nothing, then a flare from what would seem to be an unnumbered or insignificant area of the sun, not worth of even a class A.

The size of the SRs are relative. In fact, 1900 is HUGE by some measure (compared to Earth), what is incredible is the very complex mixing of polarities.

And that shot of 1899 may be more than just a unique photo-op. There's more to that photo, and maybe a part of the puzzle that proves out that the inner workings of the sun have more to do with what we can observe and measure by current technologies, and what we are missing as the catalyst of flares.

If there are loops connecting flares outwardly , that we can see, it stands to reason there are loops inwardly interacting that we can't, don't you think ?
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Great shot of 1899 ... I've never seen that before either ... looks to be almost a "layered effect" Polarities layered rather than side by side ???

The idea or theory, that it takes a large SR to create or has more potential of creating a large flare, passed me by a year or so ago. We've watch so many monsters pass with incredible expectation to see ... nothing, then a flare from what would seem to be an unnumbered or insignificant area of the sun, not worth of even a class A.

The size of the SRs are relative. In fact, 1900 is HUGE by some measure (compared to Earth), what is incredible is the very complex mixing of polarities.

And that shot of 1899 may be more than just a unique photo-op. There's more to that photo, and maybe a part of the puzzle that proves out that the inner workings of the sun have more to do with what we can observe and measure by current technologies, and what we are missing as the catalyst of flares.

If there are loops connecting flares outwardly , that we can see, it stands to reason there are loops inwardly interacting that we can't, don't you think ?
 Quoting: TS66 49433581


Howdy, 66smile_kiss! You make some interesting points there. Yes, there is a lot of magnetic turmoil going on beneath the photosphere, which is what causes the spots to form. After pondering this particular sunspot's magnetogram, I've come to the conclusion that we're seeing some artifact created by the computer-colorization of the fields. The deep dark colors denote the intensity or strength of the magnetic fields. As the field weakens, the colors appear more 'washed-out'. I notice today the donut-hole is expanding on the color magnetogram, but not changing polarity.
[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

Notice there is no hole on the traditional B &W magnetogram:

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

As far as the sunspot size thing goes, I agree with your observations. This is historically the reverse of what's been observed. Normally the biggest sunspots produce the biggest flares. It takes a giant-sized sunspot to fire off an X5 or stronger flare. I think this 'quiet-giant' thing is one of the big puzzles of Cycle 24, along with the delayed pole-shift.

Stay alert for 1899, though, sometimes these large regions erupt big-time when they begin to decay. And this region will be Earth-facing for another week or more.

Recent Big Prominence Eruption on SE Limb-
:1117-prom1:
:1117-prom2:
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Great shot of 1899 ... I've never seen that before either ... looks to be almost a "layered effect" Polarities layered rather than side by side ???

The idea or theory, that it takes a large SR to create or has more potential of creating a large flare, passed me by a year or so ago. We've watch so many monsters pass with incredible expectation to see ... nothing, then a flare from what would seem to be an unnumbered or insignificant area of the sun, not worth of even a class A.

The size of the SRs are relative. In fact, 1900 is HUGE by some measure (compared to Earth), what is incredible is the very complex mixing of polarities.

And that shot of 1899 may be more than just a unique photo-op. There's more to that photo, and maybe a part of the puzzle that proves out that the inner workings of the sun have more to do with what we can observe and measure by current technologies, and what we are missing as the catalyst of flares.

If there are loops connecting flares outwardly , that we can see, it stands to reason there are loops inwardly interacting that we can't, don't you think ?
 Quoting: TS66 49433581


Howdy, 66smile_kiss! You make some interesting points there. Yes, there is a lot of magnetic turmoil going on beneath the photosphere, which is what causes the spots to form. After pondering this particular sunspot's magnetogram, I've come to the conclusion that we're seeing some artifact created by the computer-colorization of the fields. The deep dark colors denote the intensity or strength of the magnetic fields. As the field weakens, the colors appear more 'washed-out'. I notice today the donut-hole is expanding on the color magnetogram, but not changing polarity.
[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

Notice there is no hole on the traditional B &W magnetogram:

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

As far as the sunspot size thing goes, I agree with your observations. This is historically the reverse of what's been observed. Normally the biggest sunspots produce the biggest flares. It takes a giant-sized sunspot to fire off an X5 or stronger flare. I think this 'quiet-giant' thing is one of the big puzzles of Cycle 24, along with the delayed pole-shift.

Stay alert for 1899, though, sometimes these large regions erupt big-time when they begin to decay. And this region will be Earth-facing for another week or more.

Recent Big Prominence Eruption on SE Limb-
:1117-prom1:
:1117-prom2:
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


But there is Hugh

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Sorry ... good morning everyone, and howdy Hugh hf
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I believe this CME is heading for a head-on collision with Comet ISON.

:11/17-CMEc2A:

SOHO-SEEDS movie of CME:

[link to spaceweather.gmu.edu]

SDO-Solarsoft close-up movie shows an interesting interaction of regions '93 & '00 and an ejection:

[link to sdowww.lmsal.com]

Here is ISON's position (denoted by a violet rectangle):

[link to iswa.ccmc.gsfc.nasa.gov]

Comet ISON is just about to pass Mercury!
:11/17-ISON-enlil:

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Great shot of 1899 ... I've never seen that before either ... looks to be almost a "layered effect" Polarities layered rather than side by side ???

The idea or theory, that it takes a large SR to create or has more potential of creating a large flare, passed me by a year or so ago. We've watch so many monsters pass with incredible expectation to see ... nothing, then a flare from what would seem to be an unnumbered or insignificant area of the sun, not worth of even a class A.

The size of the SRs are relative. In fact, 1900 is HUGE by some measure (compared to Earth), what is incredible is the very complex mixing of polarities.

And that shot of 1899 may be more than just a unique photo-op. There's more to that photo, and maybe a part of the puzzle that proves out that the inner workings of the sun have more to do with what we can observe and measure by current technologies, and what we are missing as the catalyst of flares.

If there are loops connecting flares outwardly , that we can see, it stands to reason there are loops inwardly interacting that we can't, don't you think ?
 Quoting: TS66 49433581


Howdy, 66smile_kiss! You make some interesting points there. Yes, there is a lot of magnetic turmoil going on beneath the photosphere, which is what causes the spots to form. After pondering this particular sunspot's magnetogram, I've come to the conclusion that we're seeing some artifact created by the computer-colorization of the fields. The deep dark colors denote the intensity or strength of the magnetic fields. As the field weakens, the colors appear more 'washed-out'. I notice today the donut-hole is expanding on the color magnetogram, but not changing polarity.
[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

Notice there is no hole on the traditional B &W magnetogram:

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

As far as the sunspot size thing goes, I agree with your observations. This is historically the reverse of what's been observed. Normally the biggest sunspots produce the biggest flares. It takes a giant-sized sunspot to fire off an X5 or stronger flare. I think this 'quiet-giant' thing is one of the big puzzles of Cycle 24, along with the delayed pole-shift.

Stay alert for 1899, though, sometimes these large regions erupt big-time when they begin to decay. And this region will be Earth-facing for another week or more.

Recent Big Prominence Eruption on SE Limb-
:1117-prom1:
:1117-prom2:
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


But there is Hugh

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49433581


Hahaha, it wasn't there an hour ago! I really don't know what to make of it. Somebody email Dr. Strong at his YT channel....tell him it's a sign of imminent doom and he may respond, LOL.

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