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SOLAR WATCH * 312 M & 25 X FLARES starting 3-7-2011 (Updated Daily)

 
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If this produced a CME, ISON will get a beating!
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If this produced a CME, ISON will get a beating!
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Good. He deserves a beating. Lol
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X1 Max
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Whoah! Where did that come from... The sun was so quiet..
5a
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X1 Max
 Quoting: #Geomagnetic_Storm#


Whoah! Where did that come from... The sun was so quiet..
5a
 Quoting: Kael


1893 i guess
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X1 Max
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Whoah! Where did that come from... The sun was so quiet..
5a
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We can thank the AC from the Netherlands for bringing it to our attention. Heh.
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X1 Max
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Whoah! Where did that come from... The sun was so quiet..
5a
 Quoting: Kael


We can thank the AC from the Netherlands for bringing it to our attention. Heh.
 Quoting: #Geomagnetic_Storm#


You're very welcome :)
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Still LDE we can expect some CME from this. It's not impulsive!
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Still LDE we can expect some CME from this. It's not impulsive!
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Yep.
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good morning, team!

now that regions 1900 and 1893 are nearing the western limb, it's about time for our typical "too late" flares. Let's keep an eye out today.
 Quoting: mtn_mang


I guess you were right about that one!

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Ison is going to cause solar flares


get ready for the grid to fry
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good morning, team!

now that regions 1900 and 1893 are nearing the western limb, it's about time for our typical "too late" flares. Let's keep an eye out today.
 Quoting: mtn_mang


I guess you were right about that one!

lolsign
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A GLP prediction coming true? Amazing!
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good morning, team!

now that regions 1900 and 1893 are nearing the western limb, it's about time for our typical "too late" flares. Let's keep an eye out today.
 Quoting: mtn_mang


Hi mang! Even quieter than I thought it would be. Sol's snoozing. (I'm teasing sun into flaring, lol)
 Quoting: Isis One


well done!
rp : )
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11/19/2013 06:43 AM
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It came from 1893 - Straight at ISON. All coincidence of course, nothing at all to do with electromagnetism...
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as Ison nears the sun we will see some action
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as Ison nears the sun we will see some action
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X class flares popping off all over the place,there is a lot of occult signs that have come with Ison,crop circles/people that had visions about Ison causing massive solar flares even a music album named Ison,the signs are there thats were the TRUTH is and you can bet your life Nasa are telling the public NOTHING
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as Ison nears the sun we will see some action
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X class flares popping off all over the place,there is a lot of occult signs that have come with Ison,crop circles/people that had visions about Ison causing massive solar flares even a music album named Ison,the signs are there thats were the TRUTH is and you can bet your life Nasa are telling the public NOTHING
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An X1.0 flare is not massive. Come back when we see an X10+
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as Ison nears the sun we will see some action
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X class flares popping off all over the place,there is a lot of occult signs that have come with Ison,crop circles/people that had visions about Ison causing massive solar flares even a music album named Ison,the signs are there thats were the TRUTH is and you can bet your life Nasa are telling the public NOTHING
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 831183


An X1.0 flare is not massive. Come back when we see an X10+
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fair comment but as Ison nears the sun some say there will be REAL fireworks,keep your eye on the ball sun...Ison is reaching the time line and WILL effect the sun
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It came from 1893 - Straight at ISON. All coincidence of course, nothing at all to do with electromagnetism...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50194422


are you being sarcastic ??


its everything to do with electromagnetsim
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Woke up way too early. Couldn't sleep and went out to check to see if I could see ISON, moon too bright. Checked to see if there had been any quakes of note, didn't see any, and only just now checked ol' Sol and bam. If I had of looked when I got up, I wouldn't have missed the X-flare happening.
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Woke up way too early. Couldn't sleep and went out to check to see if I could see ISON, moon too bright. Checked to see if there had been any quakes of note, didn't see any, and only just now checked ol' Sol and bam. If I had of looked when I got up, I wouldn't have missed the X-flare happening.
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its the thought that counts


my thoughts are on Nasa LIES hiding the reality of the electric universe,i have been busy myself enlightening people about the sun ripping the power grid to shreds
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Woke up way too early. Couldn't sleep and went out to check to see if I could see ISON, moon too bright. Checked to see if there had been any quakes of note, didn't see any, and only just now checked ol' Sol and bam. If I had of looked when I got up, I wouldn't have missed the X-flare happening.
 Quoting: whiteangel


its the thought that counts

my thoughts are on Nasa LIES hiding the reality of the electric universe,i have been busy myself enlightening people about the sun ripping the power grid to shreds
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 831183


Most won't listen, but a few will have their eyes opened
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Great shot of 1899 ... I've never seen that before either ... looks to be almost a "layered effect" Polarities layered rather than side by side ???

The idea or theory, that it takes a large SR to create or has more potential of creating a large flare, passed me by a year or so ago. We've watch so many monsters pass with incredible expectation to see ... nothing, then a flare from what would seem to be an unnumbered or insignificant area of the sun, not worth of even a class A.

The size of the SRs are relative. In fact, 1900 is HUGE by some measure (compared to Earth), what is incredible is the very complex mixing of polarities.

And that shot of 1899 may be more than just a unique photo-op. There's more to that photo, and maybe a part of the puzzle that proves out that the inner workings of the sun have more to do with what we can observe and measure by current technologies, and what we are missing as the catalyst of flares.

If there are loops connecting flares outwardly , that we can see, it stands to reason there are loops inwardly interacting that we can't, don't you think ?
 Quoting: TS66 49433581


I think I've found the answer! But I've forgotten the question, LOL.

Speaking of 'connecting the dots'...I'm learning something new today about the magnetic structure of sunspots...has anyone ever heard of UMBRAL DOTS?

Umbral Dots-

The strength of the magnetic field inside umbral dots has been a somewhat controversial subject, with some works finding no large differences between umbral dots and the umbral background (Lites et al., 1989; Tritschler and Schmidt, 1997), and other works finding a clear reduction of the field strength both in central and peripheral umbral dots (Wiehr and Degenhardt, 1993; Socas-Navarro et al., 2004; Riethmüller et al., 2008a). However, as pointed out by the the latter works this could again be -dependent, with the differences in the magnetic field being small a few hundred kilometers above , but fairly large close to this level. Here the difference can be such that the magnetic field inside the umbral dot is only a few hundred Gauss (see Figure 21). (snip)

The lower magnetic field inside umbral dots mentioned in Section 3.1.2 is a direct consequence of the convective motions described here. In the sunspot umbra, convective motions push the magnetic field lines towards the boundary of the convective cell, thereby creating a region where the vertical component of the magnetic field vector is strongly reduced. Since the ambient magnetic field is vertical, this automatically yields a very small field inside the umbral dot. At the top of the convective cell the magnetic field forms a cusp or canopy, preventing the material from continuing to flow upwards. The pile-up of material at this point creates a region of locally enhanced density, which is responsible for the appearance of the central dark lane inside umbral dots (Schüssler and Vögler, 2006). (snip)
[link to solarphysics.livingreviews.org]

I don't even know if this is related to what we're witnessing, but it's a fascinating read nonetheless. I've never come across this before and the solar physics here may be over my head, so anyone who enlighten us please chime in.

Here's a basic intro to magnetograms:

[link to solar-center.stanford.edu]

And a huge list of links from Stanford Solar Center, many of which are new to me:

[link to solar-center.stanford.edu]
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


Sleuthed Hugh - I am finding this particular 'Umbral Dot' to be a massive cause of my present headache due to its lingering presence - Just spent tooo long reading but thank you for the breadcrumbs,lol.

[link to inspirehep.net]

'Umbral convection is observed as umbral dots and has been simulated by Schüssler and Vögler (2006). In such strong fields, convection manifests itself as very narrow upflow plumes of hot plasma with neighboring, narrow cool return downflows. The tendency of the magnetic field to expand as the gas pressure declines toward the surface pinches the rising plumes and accelerates the upward flow. As in normal convection, the upflows are braked rapidly near the surface where the plasma loses buoyancy due to radiative cooling. The plasma piles up, the gas pressure increases and makes the plasma expand latterly, which reduces the magnetic field strength. As a result of the enhanced density, the optical depth increases and photons can only escape from higher, cooler layers producing a dark lane through the bright umbral dot (Figure 32View Image' - [link to solarphysics.livingreviews.org]
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


Feeling vindicated wink
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Solarsoft close-up movie of X-flare:

[link to sdowww.lmsal.com]

ISON-directed CME:

[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

Toasted Comet, anyone? Earth may get a decent glancing blow from this CME as well.

:11/17-ISON-enlil:
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:11/17-ISON-enlil:

My enlil doesn't show ISON ! lol
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Spaceweather.com got it WRONG AGAIN. How can a website which mostly just regurgitates NASA press releases and NOAA predictions be so consistently incompetent. Please contact me- I need a job. I'll work for less than you pay the Phd. 'chimps'. I'm dead serious.

"X-CLASS SOLAR FLARE: Sprawling suunspot AR1897 erupted on Nov. 19th (10:26 UT), producing an X1-class solar flare. NASA's Solar Dynamics Observatory recorded the explosion's extreme ultraviolet flash:"

[link to www.spaceweather.com]

Flare Locater:

[link to www.lmsal.com]

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I seldom even look at Spaceweather anymore. Only when linked from here for whatever reason or to check the NEO.
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[link to www.solarham.net]

Protons going up.
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My ears are ringing like never before... Pacific northwest. It almost hurts.
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Spaceweather.com got it WRONG AGAIN. How can a website which mostly just regurgitates NASA press releases and NOAA predictions be so consistently incompetent. Please contact me- I need a job. I'll work for less than you pay the Phd. 'chimps'. I'm dead serious.

"X-CLASS SOLAR FLARE: Sprawling suunspot AR1897 erupted on Nov. 19th (10:26 UT), producing an X1-class solar flare. NASA's Solar Dynamics Observatory recorded the explosion's extreme ultraviolet flash:"

[link to www.spaceweather.com]

Flare Locater:

[link to www.lmsal.com]

wtfiamwith
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


Hugh's dream job!

to get paid for doing what he seems to be doing now!

go for it!
a good video editor can make anyone say anything the editor wants.


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