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Tampa Heather User ID: 31187682 United States 01/09/2014 09:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Silly question, but could it be possible that the CME from the M flare was so dense that it actually slowed down the CME from the X flare? Quoting: °Lucy° I'm barely awake yet, but that makes sense to me... ETA: good morning Last Edited by Tampa Heather on 01/09/2014 10:00 AM What doesn't kill me only makes me stronger... |
falco-herent User ID: 48601660 United States 01/09/2014 09:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to solen.info] Quoting: falco-herent I'm wondering if the open magnetic field of this CH could be dampening 1944s efforts I would think the Solar Winds would help move things along ... You would think, hard to find definitive answers on CHs, many believe they are the openings left after large spots die.I'm on a big convective current kick, so anything out of the ordinary I try to immediately think how could this affect CCs, probably not the right way to reach proper discernment.lol I'm a data freak, theorems are out of my realm ... lol. Thats what makes this such a good thread Heres Lucys catfield, awesome “One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan |
TS66 User ID: 23991963 United States 01/09/2014 10:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Silly question, but could it be possible that the CME from the M flare was so dense that it actually slowed down the CME from the X flare? Quoting: °Lucy° I'm barely awake yet, but that makes sense to me... ETA: good morning Good morning, hope you got some rest. Last Edited by TS66 on 01/09/2014 10:04 AM TS66 |
°Lucy° User ID: 52400167 Germany 01/09/2014 10:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good morning :) My reply to your message probably didn't arrived. As soon as I can I will upgrade my account Thank you for embedding falco-herent I think I remember you with a different name from my lurking times here Last Edited by °Lucy° on 01/09/2014 10:08 AM "He who people call a fool is not a fool, but he who takes flattery for Truth, is." |
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°Lucy° User ID: 52400167 Germany 01/09/2014 10:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Huh?? Where is it gone to?? Enlil still showing [link to www.solarham.net] Last Edited by °Lucy° on 01/09/2014 10:27 AM "He who people call a fool is not a fool, but he who takes flattery for Truth, is." |
TS66 User ID: 23991963 United States 01/09/2014 10:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It must be "under construction", they just added a flare scribble. [link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov] TS66 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 51311176 United States 01/09/2014 10:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In case anyone hasn't seen it, an amazing hi-res photo of 1944 from Malaysia. What's with the blood-red umbra??? That's not a good omen. Quoting: Hugh M Eye [link to spaceweathergallery.com] a Van Gogh |
whiteangel also known at WA User ID: 43857184 United States 01/09/2014 10:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Isaiah 5:20 KJV Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! Thread: Being Prepared - Updated Basic Food List On Page One |
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Simple27 User ID: 49174015 United States 01/09/2014 11:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 2014-01-09 12:36 UTC Awaiting CME Arrival The ongoing Solar Radiation Storm peaked briefly just above the S3 (Strong) threshold but is now in decay and currently at S2 (Moderate) levels. Enhancement back across the S3 level is possible with the anticipated coronal mass ejection (CME) arrival. The CME, originally expected to arrive around 0800 UTC (3:00 a.m. EST) today, January 9, is now slightly overdue. However, pre-arrival signatures from EPAM data on the ACE spacecraft still show this transient en route. G3 (Strong) Geomagnetic Storm activity is still expected on January 9 and 10. Updates here as this event unfolds. [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] ~*Ride the Wave*~ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 52695159 Portugal 01/09/2014 11:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | CME update at 13:15 UTC (8:15am EST). An update was released by NOAA SWPC and despite the plasma cloud being late, are still calling for an impact at some point today. "The ongoing Solar Radiation Storm peaked briefly just above the S3 (Strong) threshold but is now in decay and currently at S2 (Moderate) levels. Enhancement back across the S3 level is possible with the anticipated coronal mass ejection (CME) arrival. The CME, originally expected to arrive around 0800 UTC (3:00 a.m. EST) today, January 9, is now slightly overdue. However, pre-arrival signatures from EPAM data on the ACE spacecraft still show this transient en route. G3 (Strong) Geomagnetic Storm activity is still expected on January 9 and 10." Stay tuned for the latest updates. Attached is the latest ACE Electron, Proton, and Alpha Monitor (EPAM) data. This can be found at the following link. [link to www.solarham.net] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 52695159 Portugal 01/09/2014 12:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | há 32 minutos . Good afternoon (or morning). Here is an updated look at the visible solar disk on Thursday. Solar activity declined to low levels. Only minor C-Class activity was detected within the past 24 hours. Sunspot 1944 remains the largest visible Earth facing region, but is showing gradual signs of decay. There will remain a chance for an isolated M-Class event during the next 48 hours. All other visible regions, including 1946, remain stable. A coronal mass ejection (CME) was observed in the latest LASCO C2 imagery, but was deemed a farsided event, and will have no impact on our planet. Earth bound proton levels continue to slowly drop off. A moderate S2 level radiation storm remains in progress. An anticipated coronal mass ejection (CME) expected to impact our planet this morning is running late. There is still a chance it could arrive this afternoon or evening. A geomagnetic storm watch remains in effect. Sky watchers at high latitudes should remain alert. Stay tuned to www.solarham.com for the most up to date information. The SolarHam Sunspot Map for January 9th has been updated. [link to www.solarham.net] |
TS66 User ID: 23991963 United States 01/09/2014 01:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So my question is what is slowing the arrival of this once fast moving CME ??? Quoting: TS66 It's hard for me to imagine that it could simply be the M flare preceding it. Hmmmmm, thought I'd wake up to impact? Me too ... Same here Just spoke to Nin who believes ( and take note the only data she has in front of her is the texts I've been sending her such as it is) that the M flare is far denser than we initially thought, and that it has slowed down the X. Ergo it's arrival should be late and hard. TS66 |
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Tampa Heather User ID: 26903995 United States 01/09/2014 01:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just spoke to Nin who believes ( and take note the only data she has in front of her is the texts I've been sending her such as it is) that the M flare is far denser than we initially thought, and that it has slowed down the X. Ergo it's arrival should be late and hard. ^^ isn't that what you postulated? I'm looking at it like waves in the ocean...solar ham has arrival anywhere from now until tomorrow this time? I'm thinking they are scratching their heads about now... Someone knows what's going on though... ETA: you remember the message I sent you yesterday? Proton stacking? Last Edited by Tampa Heather on 01/09/2014 01:30 PM What doesn't kill me only makes me stronger... |
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°Lucy° User ID: 52400167 Germany 01/09/2014 01:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just spoke to Nin who believes ( and take note the only data she has in front of her is the texts I've been sending her such as it is) that the M flare is far denser than we initially thought, and that it has slowed down the X. Ergo it's arrival should be late and hard. Oh, thank you for that info. And I thought my question earlier silly...lol, silly me. So I guess we should look for the time the CME from the M was scheduled. "He who people call a fool is not a fool, but he who takes flattery for Truth, is." |
TS66 User ID: 23991963 United States 01/09/2014 01:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just spoke to Nin who believes ( and take note the only data she has in front of her is the texts I've been sending her such as it is) that the M flare is far denser than we initially thought, and that it has slowed down the X. Ergo it's arrival should be late and hard. ^^ isn't that what you postulated? I'm looking at it like waves in the ocean...solar ham has arrival anywhere from now until tomorrow this time? I'm thinking they are scratching their heads about now... Someone knows what's going on though... ETA: you remember the message I sent you yesterday? Proton stacking? Yes ... it's good that the proton storm is lessening, but we have yet to see the density of this incoming CME (s) considering the obvious quantum entanglement. That very slow moving M7.2 flare, and subsequent CME, had to be pretty darn dense to slow down that VERY fast and dense X1.2's CME. Velocity won't have the same impact I was anticipating, but the density is going to be tremendous IMHO. Nin is brilliant. I am happy to have her available to get her spin on a lot of things, especially Solar events. If I hear something from her, she will get the credit (especially if it supports my own theories) Last Edited by TS66 on 01/09/2014 02:02 PM TS66 |
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Tampa Heather User ID: 26903995 United States 01/09/2014 02:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just spoke to Nin who believes ( and take note the only data she has in front of her is the texts I've been sending her such as it is) that the M flare is far denser than we initially thought, and that it has slowed down the X. Ergo it's arrival should be late and hard. ^^ isn't that what you postulated? I'm looking at it like waves in the ocean...solar ham has arrival anywhere from now until tomorrow this time? I'm thinking they are scratching their heads about now... Someone knows what's going on though... ETA: you remember the message I sent you yesterday? Proton stacking? Yes ... it's good that the proton storm is lessening, but we have yet to see the density of this incoming CME (s) considering the obvious quantum entanglement. That very slow moving M7.2 flare, and subsequent CME, had to be pretty darn dense to slow down that VERY fast and dense X1.2's CME. Velocity won't have the same impact I was anticipating, but the density is going to be tremendous IMHO. Nin is brilliant. I am happy to have her available to get her spin on a lot of things, especially Solar events. If I hear something from her, she will get the credit (especially if it supports my own theories) Remember I mentioned you wouldn't need the velocity... Yes, Nin is awesome...we are very lucky here at GLP.... THANKS NIN! What doesn't kill me only makes me stronger... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 52695159 Portugal 01/09/2014 02:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Protons starting to rise again... [link to www.n3kl.org] |
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Tampa Heather User ID: 26903995 United States 01/09/2014 02:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've seen some pretty big geomagnetic storms storms produced by much smaller CME's simply because of it's velocity. Velocity is no longer a component (I think) at this point, but has made serious impacts in the past. I'd say we are better off for it all in all. Quoting: TS66 Just bought us more time perhaps... What doesn't kill me only makes me stronger... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 52695159 Portugal 01/09/2014 02:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | há 11 minutos Lower energy proton levels measured by the ACE Spacecraft / EPAM instrument continue to gradually increase this afternoon. This is a sign that an expected, albeit slower than anticipated, interplanetary shockwave may be approaching. The solar wind stream remains near 400 km/s as we await signs of a sudden speed increase. Stay tuned for the latest and most up to date information. ACE / EPAM Data [link to www.solarham.net] ACE Real Time Solar Wind [link to www.solarham.net] Latest news and information [link to www.solarham.com] |