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SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily)

 
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Silly question, but could it be possible that the CME from the M flare was so dense that it actually slowed down the CME from the X flare?
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I'm barely awake yet, but that makes sense to me...

ETA: good morning

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I'm wondering if the open magnetic field of this CH could be dampening 1944s efforts
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I would think the Solar Winds would help move things along ... 1dunno1
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You would think, hard to find definitive answers on CHs, many believe they are the openings left after large spots die.I'm on a big convective current kick, so anything out of the ordinary I try to immediately think how could this affect CCs, probably not the right way to reach proper discernment.lol
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I'm a data freak, theorems are out of my realm ... lol.
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Thats what makes this such a good thread


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Silly question, but could it be possible that the CME from the M flare was so dense that it actually slowed down the CME from the X flare?
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I'm barely awake yet, but that makes sense to me...

ETA: good morning
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Good morning, hope you got some rest. hf

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I'm barely awake yet, but that makes sense to me...

ETA: good morning
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Good morning :) My reply to your message probably didn't arrived. As soon as I can I will upgrade my account

Thank you for embedding falco-herent hf I think I remember you with a different name from my lurking times here

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Posted on Goofy's thread ???

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OMG !! I have been upgraded :)))) Thank you sooo much :))) :hf: :hf: .hf:
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Posted on Goofy's thread ???

[link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov]
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Are we being data duped ??? LOL

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Posted on Goofy's thread ???

[link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov]
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Are we being data duped ??? LOL
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Huh?? Where is it gone to??tantrum

Enlil still showing

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It must be "under construction", they just added a flare scribble.

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In case anyone hasn't seen it, an amazing hi-res photo of 1944 from Malaysia. What's with the blood-red umbra??? That's not a good omen.

[link to spaceweathergallery.com]

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CME arrvial time
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Posted on Goofy's thread ???

[link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov]
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Are we being data duped ??? LOL
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I was so frustrated at like 4 am...I was freaking out but I was looking at data from Nov...hehehe...you got me NASA, you got me :)
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2014-01-09 12:36 UTC Awaiting CME Arrival

The ongoing Solar Radiation Storm peaked briefly just above the S3 (Strong) threshold but is now in decay and currently at S2 (Moderate) levels. Enhancement back across the S3 level is possible with the anticipated coronal mass ejection (CME) arrival. The CME, originally expected to arrive around 0800 UTC (3:00 a.m. EST) today, January 9, is now slightly overdue. However, pre-arrival signatures from EPAM data on the ACE spacecraft still show this transient en route. G3 (Strong) Geomagnetic Storm activity is still expected on January 9 and 10. Updates here as this event unfolds.

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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CME update at 13:15 UTC (8:15am EST).

An update was released by NOAA SWPC and despite the plasma cloud being late, are still calling for an impact at some point today.

"The ongoing Solar Radiation Storm peaked briefly just above the S3 (Strong) threshold but is now in decay and currently at S2 (Moderate) levels. Enhancement back across the S3 level is possible with the anticipated coronal mass ejection (CME) arrival. The CME, originally expected to arrive around 0800 UTC (3:00 a.m. EST) today, January 9, is now slightly overdue. However, pre-arrival signatures from EPAM data on the ACE spacecraft still show this transient en route. G3 (Strong) Geomagnetic Storm activity is still expected on January 9 and 10."

Stay tuned for the latest updates.

Attached is the latest ACE Electron, Proton, and Alpha Monitor (EPAM) data. This can be found at the following link. [link to www.solarham.net]
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SolarHam.com

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Good afternoon (or morning). Here is an updated look at the visible solar disk on Thursday. Solar activity declined to low levels. Only minor C-Class activity was detected within the past 24 hours. Sunspot 1944 remains the largest visible Earth facing region, but is showing gradual signs of decay. There will remain a chance for an isolated M-Class event during the next 48 hours. All other visible regions, including 1946, remain stable. A coronal mass ejection (CME) was observed in the latest LASCO C2 imagery, but was deemed a farsided event, and will have no impact on our planet.

Earth bound proton levels continue to slowly drop off. A moderate S2 level radiation storm remains in progress.

An anticipated coronal mass ejection (CME) expected to impact our planet this morning is running late. There is still a chance it could arrive this afternoon or evening. A geomagnetic storm watch remains in effect. Sky watchers at high latitudes should remain alert. Stay tuned to www.solarham.com for the most up to date information.

The SolarHam Sunspot Map for January 9th has been updated.
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So my question is what is slowing the arrival of this once fast moving CME ???

It's hard for me to imagine that it could simply be the M flare preceding it.
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Hmmmmm, thought I'd wake up to impact?
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Me too ...
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Same here
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Just spoke to Nin who believes ( and take note the only data she has in front of her is the texts I've been sending her such as it is) that the M flare is far denser than we initially thought, and that it has slowed down the X.

Ergo it's arrival should be late and hard.
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Sun doom cancelled.
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Hmmmmm, thought I'd wake up to impact?
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Me too ...
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Same here
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Just spoke to Nin who believes ( and take note the only data she has in front of her is the texts I've been sending her such as it is) that the M flare is far denser than we initially thought, and that it has slowed down the X.

Ergo it's arrival should be late and hard.
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^^ isn't that what you postulated? I'm looking at it like waves in the ocean...solar ham has arrival anywhere from now until tomorrow this time? I'm thinking they are scratching their heads about now...

Someone knows what's going on though...

ETA: you remember the message I sent you yesterday?

Proton stacking?

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Low energy protons still rising

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Hmmmmm, thought I'd wake up to impact?
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Me too ...
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Same here
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Just spoke to Nin who believes ( and take note the only data she has in front of her is the texts I've been sending her such as it is) that the M flare is far denser than we initially thought, and that it has slowed down the X.

Ergo it's arrival should be late and hard.
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Oh, thank you for that info. And I thought my question earlier silly...lol, silly me.

So I guess we should look for the time the CME from the M was scheduled.
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Me too ...
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Same here
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Just spoke to Nin who believes ( and take note the only data she has in front of her is the texts I've been sending her such as it is) that the M flare is far denser than we initially thought, and that it has slowed down the X.

Ergo it's arrival should be late and hard.
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^^ isn't that what you postulated? I'm looking at it like waves in the ocean...solar ham has arrival anywhere from now until tomorrow this time? I'm thinking they are scratching their heads about now...

Someone knows what's going on though...

ETA: you remember the message I sent you yesterday?

Proton stacking?
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Yes ... it's good that the proton storm is lessening, but we have yet to see the density of this incoming CME (s) considering the obvious quantum entanglement. That very slow moving M7.2 flare, and subsequent CME, had to be pretty darn dense to slow down that VERY fast and dense X1.2's CME. Velocity won't have the same impact I was anticipating, but the density is going to be tremendous IMHO.

Nin is brilliant. I am happy to have her available to get her spin on a lot of things, especially Solar events. If I hear something from her, she will get the credit (especially if it supports my own theories)wink

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Low energy protons still rising

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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Check ACE
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Same here
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Just spoke to Nin who believes ( and take note the only data she has in front of her is the texts I've been sending her such as it is) that the M flare is far denser than we initially thought, and that it has slowed down the X.

Ergo it's arrival should be late and hard.
 Quoting: TS66


^^ isn't that what you postulated? I'm looking at it like waves in the ocean...solar ham has arrival anywhere from now until tomorrow this time? I'm thinking they are scratching their heads about now...

Someone knows what's going on though...

ETA: you remember the message I sent you yesterday?

Proton stacking?
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Yes ... it's good that the proton storm is lessening, but we have yet to see the density of this incoming CME (s) considering the obvious quantum entanglement. That very slow moving M7.2 flare, and subsequent CME, had to be pretty darn dense to slow down that VERY fast and dense X1.2's CME. Velocity won't have the same impact I was anticipating, but the density is going to be tremendous IMHO.

Nin is brilliant. I am happy to have her available to get her spin on a lot of things, especially Solar events. If I hear something from her, she will get the credit (especially if it supports my own theories)wink
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Remember I mentioned you wouldn't need the velocity...

Yes, Nin is awesome...we are very lucky here at GLP....

THANKS NIN!
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Protons starting to rise again... [link to www.n3kl.org]
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I've seen some pretty big geomagnetic storms storms produced by much smaller CME's simply because of it's velocity. Velocity is no longer a component (I think) at this point, but has made serious impacts in the past. I'd say we are better off for it all in all.
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Watch the magnetometer and Bz for arrival as well ... I've got to get out of the house for a while, currently a balmy 25*F and I need some sunshine.

See you all later. hf
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I've seen some pretty big geomagnetic storms storms produced by much smaller CME's simply because of it's velocity. Velocity is no longer a component (I think) at this point, but has made serious impacts in the past. I'd say we are better off for it all in all.
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Just bought us more time perhaps...
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Watch the magnetometer and Bz for arrival as well ... I've got to get out of the house for a while, currently a balmy 25*F and I need some sunshine.

See you all later. hf
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Likely story....hehehe...

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há 11 minutos

Lower energy proton levels measured by the ACE Spacecraft / EPAM instrument continue to gradually increase this afternoon. This is a sign that an expected, albeit slower than anticipated, interplanetary shockwave may be approaching. The solar wind stream remains near 400 km/s as we await signs of a sudden speed increase. Stay tuned for the latest and most up to date information.

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