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SOLAR WATCH * 312 M & 25 X FLARES starting 3-7-2011 (Updated Daily)

 
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To Nin, Gab and ELQ. Do you have Faraday cages (cardboard box and aluminum foil is the best I can come up with) and if so at what point would you start packing your electronics up, and what would you pack up ???
 Quoting: TruthSeeker66


this may help you..

[link to www.unitedstatesaction.com]
 Quoting: Gabriel


another thought....

don't worry about your electronics.... if we get hit by another carrington event, it won't matter because all the main grids...your neighborhood and city power sources... would be destroyed.. so your electronics would be useless.

Stock up water, water, and more water... unless you have easy access to clean river, lake, etc.

Propane tanks.... get lots of those filled up... outdoor grilling for awhile ......... and heat.

I have a small scooter inside a box i think i have made EMP proof.... and have stored gasoline for it.

I have lots of guns and ammo for hunting and self defense.

Worse place to be is a big city....

 Quoting: Gabriel


Hey Gab could this be the event you were referring to on ya EQ thread??
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To Nin, Gab and ELQ. Do you have Faraday cages (cardboard box and aluminum foil is the best I can come up with) and if so at what point would you start packing your electronics up, and what would you pack up ???
 Quoting: TruthSeeker66


this may help you..

[link to www.unitedstatesaction.com]
 Quoting: Gabriel


another thought....

don't worry about your electronics.... if we get hit by another carrington event, it won't matter because all the main grids...your neighborhood and city power sources... would be destroyed.. so your electronics would be useless.

Stock up water, water, and more water... unless you have easy access to clean river, lake, etc.

Propane tanks.... get lots of those filled up... outdoor grilling for awhile ......... and heat.

I have a small scooter inside a box i think i have made EMP proof.... and have stored gasoline for it.

I have lots of guns and ammo for hunting and self defense.

Worse place to be is a big city....

 Quoting: Gabriel


Hey Gab could this be the event you were referring to on ya EQ thread??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1505086


remember i said its all about the timing.... 3 flares with CME's , massive coronal hole with solar winds, Comet elenin at its nearest to the sun and massive sun spot 1859 coming around the corner.......

Could be... i'm ready to get it over with.
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To Nin, Gab and ELQ. Do you have Faraday cages (cardboard box and aluminum foil is the best I can come up with) and if so at what point would you start packing your electronics up, and what would you pack up ???
 Quoting: TruthSeeker66


Best Faraday cage, grounded metal building. In your home a grounded metal trash can, will work a solar blanket over your electronics, with a allagator clip attached to a wire that leads to ground.
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Thanks for all the info. Was unable to be on computer. We really appreciate you guys. You are saving lives. Maybe not for this incident, but def. now or in the future. Before this thread I was trying to figure this out on my own.

Looks like trouble is on the way. I hope not.yoda
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this may help you..

[link to www.unitedstatesaction.com]
 Quoting: Gabriel


another thought....

don't worry about your electronics.... if we get hit by another carrington event, it won't matter because all the main grids...your neighborhood and city power sources... would be destroyed.. so your electronics would be useless.

Stock up water, water, and more water... unless you have easy access to clean river, lake, etc.

Propane tanks.... get lots of those filled up... outdoor grilling for awhile ......... and heat.

I have a small scooter inside a box i think i have made EMP proof.... and have stored gasoline for it.

I have lots of guns and ammo for hunting and self defense.

Worse place to be is a big city....

 Quoting: Gabriel


Hey Gab could this be the event you were referring to on ya EQ thread??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1505086


remember i said its all about the timing.... 3 flares with CME's , massive coronal hole with solar winds, Comet elenin at its nearest to the sun and massive sun spot 1859 coming around the corner.......

Could be... i'm ready to get it over with.
 Quoting: Gabriel




sunspot 1859... Hmmmm, Carrington event anyone ?
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Fantastic, thankyou, I love this.
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bash me if nothing happen but...

i wonder how many lives could be saved from a minimum danger alert
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I agree. We are advanced enough to know this is unusual for our short archive of understanding, and yet, the practice would be helpful, and if its real, the awareness might save many.
Through honesty, we make peace.
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Humuhumunukuapuaa you know your stuff. How old are you? What is your background? If you don't mind me asking. We think on the same level.
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


I wanted to get back to you. I'm old enough to remember when the boxing day Tsunami came through....

I made a mistake. I thought I would not make a nuisance out of myself by calling authorities in the various countries and warning them that they must be immediately prepared for a major Tsunami after the major quake.....hours later 250,000 people perished....my mistake.

The countries around did not have enough experience....the hotels, the tourists, the residents.....

I think I could have saved lives because I was old enough to know about Tsunami behavior....even calling one hotel...my mistake.
 Quoting: humuhumunukuapuaa


and let me add, my friend, you already know my respect for your intelligence, humanity and innovative technological adaptations.
Through honesty, we make peace.
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Dumb quetion I guess but Isn't Elenin going to be on the far side of the sun at Perihelion?
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we have 2 CME earth bound right now
so i thought it was suiting to show just how small earth is compared to a CME

:sunearth:
(Yes, you are seeing this right. Earth is that tiny blue dot in the botton right section)

with this image, we can see how easy it would be for a CME to go north or south of earth, or hit directly
this also puts into prospective just how bad these CMEs have the potential of being
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 Quoting: NiNzrez


I don't feel so good anymore.... thanks! meds
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Hey Nin - thought you could use a laugh: I read over the explanation you provided of the Beta - Gamma - Delta event. Totally explains my 17 year old daughter, she's not hormonally bipolar, she's just BGD!
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Doom on, i hope...
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To Nin, Gab and ELQ. Do you have Faraday cages (cardboard box and aluminum foil is the best I can come up with) and if so at what point would you start packing your electronics up, and what would you pack up ???
 Quoting: TruthSeeker66


this may help you..

[link to www.unitedstatesaction.com]
 Quoting: Gabriel


another thought....

don't worry about your electronics.... if we get hit by another carrington event, it won't matter because all the main grids...your neighborhood and city power sources... would be destroyed.. so your electronics would be useless.

Stock up water, water, and more water... unless you have easy access to clean river, lake, etc.

Propane tanks.... get lots of those filled up... outdoor grilling for awhile ......... and heat.

I have a small scooter inside a box i think i have made EMP proof.... and have stored gasoline for it.

I have lots of guns and ammo for hunting and self defense.

Worse place to be is a big city....
 Quoting: Gabriel


Actually, I can't agree with just letting your electronics go to waste. Even if YOU can't use them because the power is out, just imagine how much even a normal everyday computer will be worth when every computer in the country if fried except YOURS. Working computers and computer components will be worth quite a bit while the world is rebuilding and trying to replace all the electronics that were lost. Even if you only end up trading them for food/water its worth the effort.
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To Nin, Gab and ELQ. Do you have Faraday cages (cardboard box and aluminum foil is the best I can come up with) and if so at what point would you start packing your electronics up, and what would you pack up ???
 Quoting: TruthSeeker66


Best Faraday cage, grounded metal building. In your home a grounded metal trash can, will work a solar blanket over your electronics, with a allagator clip attached to a wire that leads to ground.
 Quoting: Drendwire


Could somebody with a tin roof literally coat their home in tin foil and attach a wire into the ground?

Like my tin roof is up thurr.. then I do aluminum foil over my brick.. ??

haha
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Nin, Quis, Gabe.. whoever is up and at 'em right now.

Would you suggest tinfoiling my fourwheeler for this?

Just curious. :)
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Nin, Quis, Gabe.. whoever is up and at 'em right now.

Would you suggest tinfoiling my fourwheeler for this?

Just curious. :)
 Quoting: Pangn


Just drive copper rod in ground and run ground clamp from frame to ground rod and your good to go...
"The world will not be destroyed by evil, it will be destroyed by the ones who do nothing to stop the evil."
"Lead or follow just get the hell out of my way!"
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Nin, Quis, Gabe.. whoever is up and at 'em right now.

Would you suggest tinfoiling my fourwheeler for this?

Just curious. :)
 Quoting: Pangn


Just drive copper rod in ground and run ground clamp from frame to ground rod and your good to go...
 Quoting: XP...


Holy fuel tanks batman..

Ive got lots of copper wire hanging out from my heat pump repair.

I will do this. Thanks!
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To Nin, Gab and ELQ. Do you have Faraday cages (cardboard box and aluminum foil is the best I can come up with) and if so at what point would you start packing your electronics up, and what would you pack up ???
 Quoting: TruthSeeker66


Best Faraday cage, grounded metal building. In your home a grounded metal trash can, will work a solar blanket over your electronics, with a allagator clip attached to a wire that leads to ground.
 Quoting: Drendwire


Could somebody with a tin roof literally coat their home in tin foil and attach a wire into the ground?

Like my tin roof is up thurr.. then I do aluminum foil over my brick.. ??

haha
 Quoting: Pangn


A tin roof is a very good thing, Think about it, These radiations are coming from space. To protect from above is essential. Make a ground from your roof, and any thing under the should be protected. If you provide a ground for your vehicle it should be OK. I'm not sure about the battery.
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Hopefully nothing serious happens and everyone stays safe
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To Nin, Gab and ELQ. Do you have Faraday cages (cardboard box and aluminum foil is the best I can come up with) and if so at what point would you start packing your electronics up, and what would you pack up ???
 Quoting: TruthSeeker66


Best Faraday cage, grounded metal building. In your home a grounded metal trash can, will work a solar blanket over your electronics, with a allagator clip attached to a wire that leads to ground.
 Quoting: Drendwire


Could somebody with a tin roof literally coat their home in tin foil and attach a wire into the ground?

Like my tin roof is up thurr.. then I do aluminum foil over my brick.. ??

haha
 Quoting: Pangn


A tin roof is a very good thing, Think about it, These radiations are coming from space. To protect from above is essential. Make a ground from your roof, and any thing under the should be protected. If you provide a ground for your vehicle it should be OK. I'm not sure about the battery.
 Quoting: Drendwire


You think a gutter might do this?

I was considering attaching my tin roof to the gutter with just a piece of copper

Because my gutters run directly into the ground
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Yes this should work. Remember we are not talking about a lighting bolt, but rather a gradual build up of electrical energy from space . A hard hit would not fry everything at once.
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24 pages since I last dropped in here?!?!?!

No,...really?

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24 pages since I last dropped in here?!?!?!

No,...really?

{{{sigh}}}




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 Quoting: zacksavage


Lol. Yes it has been poppin around here lately with all the solar doom! :)
Perfer et Obdura;Dolor hic tibi proderit olim.Fortes Fortuna Iuvat! (Be Patient & Strong; someday this pain will be useful to you. Fortune favors the brave)
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Lol. Yes it has been poppin around here lately with all the solar doom! :)
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Hello Vesper,...Poppin is an understatement. What fresh solar solar doom are you talking about?

It will take me a couple of days to get through all this.


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Lol. Yes it has been poppin around here lately with all the solar doom! :)
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Hello Vesper,...Poppin is an understatement. What fresh solar solar doom are you talking about?

It will take me a couple of days to get through all this.


Z
 Quoting: zacksavage


Sorry been on the phone. :)
Sunspot 1283 blew two X flares after an M class flare on Tuesday. CME's are on the way with this weekend being a target for the arrival. Seems to be a concern about the 11th, and what that may indicate for a false flag operation, or just the creepy factor overall. Some contend that the CME's will combine for a possible Carrington Event, and/or what the interstellar magnetized dust cloud may do to enhance the situation in general. I think that is it for the most part.
Perfer et Obdura;Dolor hic tibi proderit olim.Fortes Fortuna Iuvat! (Be Patient & Strong; someday this pain will be useful to you. Fortune favors the brave)
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Sorry been on the phone. :)
Sunspot 1283 blew two X flares after an M class flare on Tuesday. CME's are on the way with this weekend being a target for the arrival. Seems to be a concern about the 11th, and what that may indicate for a false flag operation, or just the creepy factor overall. Some contend that the CME's will combine for a possible Carrington Event, and/or what the interstellar magnetized dust cloud may do to enhance the situation in general. I think that is it for the most part.
 Quoting: Vesper33


Hey,...I understand life tries to go on outside GLP. I knew that you would get back to me though, cause people on NiN's thread be that way.

Thank you kindly for the summery, nice taking to you, and,...

Have a great evening/day.


Z

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Sorry been on the phone. :)
Sunspot 1283 blew two X flares after an M class flare on Tuesday. CME's are on the way with this weekend being a target for the arrival. Seems to be a concern about the 11th, and what that may indicate for a false flag operation, or just the creepy factor overall. Some contend that the CME's will combine for a possible Carrington Event, and/or what the interstellar magnetized dust cloud may do to enhance the situation in general. I think that is it for the most part.
 Quoting: Vesper33


Hey,...I understand life tries to go on outside GLP. I knew that you would get back to me though, cause people on NiN's thread be that way.

Thank you kindly for the summery, nice taking to you, and,...

Have a great evening.


Z
 Quoting: zacksavage


You too Z!! hf
Perfer et Obdura;Dolor hic tibi proderit olim.Fortes Fortuna Iuvat! (Be Patient & Strong; someday this pain will be useful to you. Fortune favors the brave)
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Good Morning all...that was a short night smile_kiss

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Earthquakes and Volcanoes
Sep 08, 2011

Lightning discharges in the atmosphere are familiar, but what about the ones underground?

The electrical phenomenon we call lightning is not well understood. The most common interpretation involves the circulation of water vapor up and down through clouds in a process called convection. Water is heated by the Sun until it evaporates, rising into the air where it collects into clouds. The water vapor continues to rise higher and higher, finally cooling enough to condense back into liquid. Earth's gravity then pulls it back to the surface where the cycle repeats.

According to consensus opinions, water droplets tend to collide during convection, knocking electrons off one another, creating a charge separation. Electrons accumulate in the lower portion of the cloud, where it acquires a negative charge. As the droplets that have lost an electron continue to rise, they carry a positive charge into the top of the cloud.

The regions of charge differential, or charge separation, cause an electric field to form between them, with a strength directly proportional to the amount of charge in the cloud. The electric field can become so powerful that it repels electrons in the Earth's surface, forcing it to become positively charged. A conductive pathway between the two regions can initiate a lighting leader stroke that eventually connects with some positive streamer rising from the ground.

Such a process cannot explain volcanic lightning. Most planetary scientists assume that the cause is similar, but there is no experimental evidence to confirm the idea.

Over the last two hundred years of reporting, lightning has been seen in the ash clouds spewing from numerous volcanic eruptions. Gigantic branching displays were photographed during the Mt. Chaiten eruption in May of 2008. There were reports of ball lightning bigger than beach balls rolling along the ground when Mt. St. Helens erupted in 1981. Eyjafjallajökull produced flashes that lit up the sky for many kilometers.

Large "telluric currents" have been found circulating through Earth's crust because our magnetic field induces current flow in conductive strata. Thousands of amperes flow beneath the surface, varying according to conductivity. Since the Sun can affect Earth's magnetic field through geomagnetic storms, fluctuations in telluric currents can occur when there is an increase in sunspots or solar flares, because they create oscillations in the ionosphere....................cont.
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