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SOLAR WATCH * 312 M & 25 X FLARES starting 3-7-2011 (Updated Daily)

 
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[link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov]
should hit us about the 30th according to this
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Are we talking about something really big?
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I finally saw them! The auroras were amazing. The weird thing is I checked spaceweather.com and the numbers seemed to show it was winding down. But then I went outside and the dim auroras became bright and the sky exploded in color. Here's some pictures I took:

[link to g2.img-dpreview.com]
[link to g3.img-dpreview.com]
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I agree those were awesome pics...thanks for sharing.

Now back to catching up with Ninz thread...


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STEREO Ahead shows a CME blast at 11-12:00 UTC-looks like it's coming our way. SOHO not updating.

[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

Might be that filament in the northwest near 1324. Further investigation is needed.
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


looking at SDO, it looks like it came from the area of 1324 :)
you can see this on todays SDO movie
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G'day, NINz!hf

I did see a burp in that area on SDO composite images. You're so right about increased number of images-I tried to get a movie of 7 hour time-frame and it loaded more than a 150 images....took forever.

Here's a cool time-lapse video of yesterdays geomagnetic storm from the NICT magnetosphere simulation. Maybe you could embed video for me.


[link to www.youtube.com]
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awesome.. thanks :)

here you go ^^


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Going back to the alignment with Jupiter.....is it today??


I looked it up @ Solar System Scope and it looks to be an alignment today or am I wrong?? Plus looks like it sort of aligns with Saturn too......scratching


[link to www.solarsystemscope.com]
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[link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov]
should hit us about the 30th according to this
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[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
OMG LOOK AT THIS
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2159872


This CME is much smaller than than last weeks but IMO it's gonna hit Earth more directly- of course a lot depends on the polarity. I have read recently that events near the western limb tend to be more geo-effective due to the Parker Spiral (seen on the models) which sweep the solar winds towards Earth.

SOHO is letting me down again-just when I thought they were picking up their game, lol. Latest updated movie from STEREO A:
[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

As for the Farside maps-they're Doppler magnetograms which show fluctuations in magnetic field strength. They sometimes appear scarier than they are. Here's a whole page of Farside maps-scroll down and see how they change.

[link to gong.nso.edu]
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STEREO Ahead shows a CME blast at 11-12:00 UTC-looks like it's coming our way. SOHO not updating.

[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

Might be that filament in the northwest near 1324. Further investigation is needed.
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


looking at SDO, it looks like it came from the area of 1324 :)
you can see this on todays SDO movie
 Quoting: NiNzrez


G'day, NINz!hf

I did see a burp in that area on SDO composite images. You're so right about increased number of images-I tried to get a movie of 7 hour time-frame and it loaded more than a 150 images....took forever.

Here's a cool time-lapse video of yesterdays geomagnetic storm from the NICT magnetosphere simulation. Maybe you could embed video for me.


[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


awesome.. thanks :)

here you go ^^


 Quoting: NiNzrez

THANK YOU!
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NIN, when are you gonna make us some of your great Helioviewer movies? I really miss those.
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should hit us about the 30th according to this
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2159872


Are we talking about something really big?
 Quoting: Shenue


i believe the thing we have learned from this last geomagnetic storm is, it does not take a HUGE CME to effect us greatly
none of us suspected that the kinda small filament ejection on the 22nd would have such an effect
for 2 reasons...
1. it did not look like it had a lot of mass to it, compared to many others we have see in recent times
and 2 because it was not in a direct hit direction

so most of us looked at this as a not to big CME that would maybe have a glancing blow
we see these glancing blow CME's a lot
most of the time they maybe stir up a Kp5 at most and do not have much effect
for sure nothing to write home about

this latest filament that sent a CME in our direction for a glancing blow, stirring up a Kp7 storm and red green auroras far south showed us that in this case anyways, it is not the size that counts.
We should therefore be on alert for any and all CME's headed in our direction, even is they look like they will only have a glancing blow
IMO
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Going back to the alignment with Jupiter.....is it today??


I looked it up @ Solar System Scope and it looks to be an alignment today or am I wrong?? Plus looks like it sort of aligns with Saturn too......scratching


[link to www.solarsystemscope.com]
 Quoting: Cisco805


i read somewhere that it is on Saturday Oct 29th
Saturn-Jupiter grand conjunction, hummmm
right around one date for the end of the Mayan calendar
interesting times
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I had a dream last night, I saw a big ball detach it self from the sun and it was heading towards earth.

Nov 7th I keep hearing that date too.
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I had a dream of the sun too. In my dream I looked at a pic from the NASA site or wherever those pics come from that people put on and there was a large black triangle at the 1:00 position of the sun. The base of the triangle was on the sun's edge and tip went towards the center. The length was such that if you drew a line from the tip straight it would hit around 12:00 position maybe a little before. It was as if a slice of the sun was missing. I also felt like I was awake but not awake, in between worlds.

Regarding November 7th. In the late 90's I was sitting on the couch and heard what I termed as God's voice say November 7th. Every year since then I get a little nervous around this date.
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looking at SDO, it looks like it came from the area of 1324 :)
you can see this on todays SDO movie
 Quoting: NiNzrez


G'day, NINz!hf

I did see a burp in that area on SDO composite images. You're so right about increased number of images-I tried to get a movie of 7 hour time-frame and it loaded more than a 150 images....took forever.

Here's a cool time-lapse video of yesterdays geomagnetic storm from the NICT magnetosphere simulation. Maybe you could embed video for me.


[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


awesome.. thanks :)

here you go ^^


 Quoting: NiNzrez

THANK YOU!
smile_kiss
NIN, when are you gonna make us some of your great Helioviewer movies? I really miss those.
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye

the site i use for that was down for quite a while and then had issued with the dates
it's now working i think, so i should get back on top of getting new videos :)

here is my all time fav youtube site for updated nict and SOHO videos of the day
[link to www.youtube.com]
he is always right on top of things :)

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Going back to the alignment with Jupiter.....is it today??


I looked it up @ Solar System Scope and it looks to be an alignment today or am I wrong?? Plus looks like it sort of aligns with Saturn too......scratching


[link to www.solarsystemscope.com]
 Quoting: Cisco805


i read somewhere that it is on Saturday Oct 29th
Saturn-Jupiter grand conjunction, hummmm
right around one date for the end of the Mayan calendar
interesting times
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Thank You Nin! hf


very interesting indeed...
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Are we talking about something really big?
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i believe the thing we have learned from this last geomagnetic storm is, it does not take a HUGE CME to effect us greatly
none of us suspected that the kinda small filament ejection on the 22nd would have such an effect
for 2 reasons...
1. it did not look like it had a lot of mass to it, compared to many others we have see in recent times
and 2 because it was not in a direct hit direction


so most of us looked at this as a not to big CME that would maybe have a glancing blow
we see these glancing blow CME's a lot
most of the time they maybe stir up a Kp5 at most and do not have much effect
for sure nothing to write home about

this latest filament that sent a CME in our direction for a glancing blow, stirring up a Kp7 storm and red green auroras far south showed us that in this case anyways, it is not the size that counts.
We should therefore be on alert for any and all CME's headed in our direction, even is they look like they will only have a glancing blow
IMO
 Quoting: NiNzrez


So what you're saying is that maybe this one [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] could be much powerfull that we may think it will be?
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Keep in mind that even a small CME is huge compared to the size of Earth.

[link to umbra.gsfc.nasa.gov:80]
gaspabombahhh
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Keep in mind that even a small CME is huge compared to the size of Earth.

[link to umbra.gsfc.nasa.gov:80]
gaspabombahhh
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CACTus CME movie-unfortunately the SOHO Lasco data has an 8 hour gap. But the movie shows the initial ejection.

[link to www.sidc.oma.be]
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The 48 hr mpg in 304 i crazy. You can see the filament lift off. Someone please upload to youtube, screencast is not working properly...
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STEREO Ahead shows a CME blast at 11-12:00 UTC-looks like it's coming our way. SOHO not updating.

[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

Might be that filament in the northwest near 1324. Further investigation is needed.
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


looking at SDO, it looks like it came from the area of 1324 :)
you can see this on todays SDO movie
 Quoting: NiNzrez


G'day, NINz!hf

I did see a burp in that area on SDO composite images. You're so right about increased number of images-I tried to get a movie of 7 hour time-frame and it loaded more than a 150 images....took forever.

Here's a cool time-lapse video of yesterdays geomagnetic storm from the NICT magnetosphere simulation. Maybe you could embed video for me.


[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


awesome.. thanks :)

here you go ^^


 Quoting: NiNzrez


WOW! Thanks Nin! That was a great video! Thanks for posting. These are such interesting times! So glad to see you back. Hope things are healing well for you. I know it takes time!

hf
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Princeton Plasma Physics Laboratory is attempting to discover the secrets of "magnetic reconnection" which can cause the skies to light up with aurorae. One of the most common but least understood phenomena in the universe, magnetic reconnection happens when magnetic field lines break apart and then re-connect with explosive energy. The MRX (Magnetic Reconnection Experiment) at Princeton is re-creating the mysterious process right here in New Jersey to study its effects.

[link to www.spacedaily.com]

[link to mrx.pppl.gov]
[link to www.google.com]
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These pictures were posted on another thread, anybody got a clue what it is on the sun. These pictures were captured of the SDO website before they removed them.

Pictures: [link to s1194.photobucket.com]


Thread their from:
Thread: Check These SDO Images Of The Sun, Something is Eclipsing It. Pin!
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SPACENEWS UPDATES:

NASA makes final preparations for YU55 asteroid approach.
[link to www.jpl.nasa.gov]

Can you spot 4 moons of Saturn in this photo? I'll give you a hint: they're named TITAN, DIONE, PANDORA, & PAN (the tiny one inside rings). Beautiful pic-I wish it was colorized.
[link to apod.nasa.gov]

NASA bastards have last laugh at Elenin doomtards.
[link to www.jpl.nasa.gov]

[link to www.youtube.com]
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These pictures were posted on another thread, anybody got a clue what it is on the sun. These pictures were captured of the SDO website before they removed them.

Pictures: [link to s1194.photobucket.com]


Thread their from:
Thread: Check These SDO Images Of The Sun, Something is Eclipsing It. Pin!
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They're in the midst of a re-calibration maneuver today. A couple times of year they need to re-adjust the spacecraft and re-calibrate their instruments. Here's a notice from their blog and it's at the top of page one of their website.

[link to sdoisgo.blogspot.com]
[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
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[link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov]
should hit us about the 30th according to this
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2159872


Are we talking about something really big?
 Quoting: Shenue


i believe the thing we have learned from this last geomagnetic storm is, it does not take a HUGE CME to effect us greatly
none of us suspected that the kinda small filament ejection on the 22nd would have such an effect
for 2 reasons...
1. it did not look like it had a lot of mass to it, compared to many others we have see in recent times
and 2 because it was not in a direct hit direction

so most of us looked at this as a not to big CME that would maybe have a glancing blow
we see these glancing blow CME's a lot
most of the time they maybe stir up a Kp5 at most and do not have much effect
for sure nothing to write home about

this latest filament that sent a CME in our direction for a glancing blow, stirring up a Kp7 storm and red green auroras far south showed us that in this case anyways, it is not the size that counts.
We should therefore be on alert for any and all CME's headed in our direction, even is they look like they will only have a glancing blow
IMO
 Quoting: NiNzrez


thank you Nin
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Another partial-halo CME spotted on SOHO Cor 2:

[link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]

[link to www.sidc.oma.be]

Also a bright flare/cme event on the farside seen on STEREO A:

[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

SDO seems to be back to normal-AIA304 shows an awesome prominence on the western limb across the equator- and another at 5 o'clock which has been dancing around there all day.

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
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4.8 2011/10/27 06:37:09 39.605 -120.470 13.7 NORTHERN CALIFORNIA

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Dawn of the North Wind
Oct 27, 2011

Earth’s aurorae demonstrate the electrical connection between our planet and the Sun.

The Sun unleashed another coronal mass ejection (CME) on October 22, 2011, causing an outburst of colorful displays in nighttime skies as far south as Arkansas, in the United States.

There is an electrically active structure called a magnetotail (or plasma tail) extending for millions of kilometers from Earth, always pointing away from the Sun. The flow of charged particles ejected from the Sun, called the solar wind, is captured by our planet’s magnetosphere, collected in a plasma sheet within the magnetotail, and held together by our magnetic field.Energetic ions stream into Earth’s magnetic field down into the poles, exciting atmospheric molecules to the point where they emit various colors of light: red frequencies from oxygen at high altitudes, green from oxygen at lower altitudes, and blue light from nitrogen.

Electromagnetic instabilities also occur when a bright aurora is seen. In 1903, Kristian Birkeland and a Norwegian research team undertook an expedition to the Arctic, where they discovered that electric charge from the Aurora Borealis flowed parallel to the auroral formation.

In 1966, the U.S. Navy satellite, TRIAD, recorded those magnetic disturbances as it passed over Earth’s polar regions and through what were named the Van Allen Radiation Belts. Those vertical electric currents that flow to Earth from the solar wind were named, “Birkeland currents” by Alex Dessler in 1969. During the recent substorm, Norwegian scientists again detected electricity flowing through the ground under the auroral glow.

Birkeland’s polar electric currents are known today as auroral electrojets, and they are connected to electric circuits following Earth’s geomagnetic field into and away from the Arctic and Antarctic regions. NASA scientists label this electric effect a “new” discovery. Although they acknowledge the electric currents in their published papers, conventional theorists persist in seeing them as “magnetic collision” effects in plasma rather than the fundamental cause of auroral phenomena....................................................​..............cont.
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One of the most interesting aspects to the latest auroral episode is not its display, buts its origin. Just before the CME, a comet was seen entering the Sun’s corona and then failing to reappear. In previous Picture of the Day articles, several other examples were discussed of comets “crashing” into the Sun just before large CMEs. One comet in particular, 96P/Machholz, did not strike the Sun it skimmed around it, apparently causing a CME in the process.

According to solar physicists, there is no way for a “loosely held-together blob of ice and rock” to initiate an electromagnetic eruption moving at 2500 kilometers per second. What they fail to consider is that there is a radial electric field from the Sun permeating the Solar System. As charged comets move rapidly through that field, they may experience a sudden breakdown or discharge across the giant plasma sheath surrounding the cometary nucleus.

The Sun’s continuous discharge is a dynamic process requiring only a small external electrical trigger like that provided by a comet for it to discharge violently. By way of contrast, astronomers discount any relationship between comets and CMEs based simply on their enormous physical size difference. However, several other sungrazers have been associated with violent flares. One event can be a coincidence, two can be long odds, but three or more cannot be dismissed as mere oddities.
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STEREO mission celebrates 5th birthday. birthdayapplause

[link to www.spacedaily.com]

Another Earthbound CME seen on STEREO B and A at approx. 12:40 UTC-looks smaller than yesterdays blast.
[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

Some plasma from yesterday's first CME can be seen on STEREO A-H1.

[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
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SIDC (Solar Influences Data Analysis Center) latest 3-day forecast states "imagery suggest this CME will hit the Earth, probably on October 30th." I wonder if they follow this thread? I don't think so or they would know it was caused by a filament eruption and not a C-flare.
[link to sidc.oma.be]

Inbound CME photos from STEREO Ahead:

[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

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The other large filament in the northeast (near 1332) has lifted off between 10-12:00 UTC. It may be the trigger for the latest Earthside CME.
Now you see it:
[link to halpha.nso.edu]
Now you don't:
[link to halpha.nso.edu]

Today's CME from STEREO A in 1-hr. increments (approx. @ 10 o'clock position):

[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
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question-
what size does the flare have to be to effect Earth?
not s suntard (no disrespect)
just wondering

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