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SOLAR WATCH * 312 M & 25 X FLARES starting 3-7-2011 (Updated Daily)

 
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This is headed down the wrong path;

[link to www2.nict.go.jp]

I am afraid, seismically, this is not good.

Magnetopause has crossed over to our night side, another sign of impending danger and or seismic activity;

[link to pixie.spasci.com]

This in conjunction with the levels showing up on NICT is not good seismically and or volcanically. Lot's of bad influence here.
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This is kind of a silly question..

but if we had some kind of foresight as to a HUGE flare.. would taking the battery out of our laptop potentially save it?
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[link to www.gdgps.net]
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yep, we had small rise..:

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]


C 2.3
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bit offtopic..or maybe not^^

its new


This radar image of asteroid 2005 YU55 was obtained on Nov. 7, 2011, at 11:45 a.m. PST (2:45 p.m. EST/1945 UTC), when the space rock was at 3.6 lunar distances, which is about 860,000 miles, or 1.38 million kilometers, from Earth.


[link to www.nasa.gov]
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This is kind of a silly question..

but if we had some kind of foresight as to a HUGE flare.. would taking the battery out of our laptop potentially save it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1399029


I believe its not the battery that collects the energy in a geomagnetic storm but all the wires that will feed into your chips and fry your laptop. A geomagnetic storm is caused by a CME not a flare which won't do much if anything at all to your laptop. If you're really worried keep it unplugged during a G-storm and wrap it in aluminum foil. From my research this should be sufficient, not that anyone has ever had to actually do this before so I guess I can't say I'm absolutely sure. The foil seems a little overboard though, I think at that point there will be no electricity to recharge you laptop or to use anything else if a storm got THAT bad.
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bit offtopic..or maybe not^^

its new


This radar image of asteroid 2005 YU55 was obtained on Nov. 7, 2011, at 11:45 a.m. PST (2:45 p.m. EST/1945 UTC), when the space rock was at 3.6 lunar distances, which is about 860,000 miles, or 1.38 million kilometers, from Earth.


[link to www.nasa.gov]
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I don't like the looks of this. Thanks IWTB.
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the new img looks like


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major disruption signals at my wireless headphones.. sun related?
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sounds exactly like the induction magnetometer(HAARP) sounds
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bit offtopic..or maybe not^^

its new


This radar image of asteroid 2005 YU55 was obtained on Nov. 7, 2011, at 11:45 a.m. PST (2:45 p.m. EST/1945 UTC), when the space rock was at 3.6 lunar distances, which is about 860,000 miles, or 1.38 million kilometers, from Earth.


[link to www.nasa.gov]
 Quoting: IwantToBelieve76


I don't like the looks of this. Thanks IWTB.
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


It appears perfectly spherical. This of course means it has enough gravity to be round, unlike so many other asteroids out there. This also probably suggests a much denser object, which most asteroids are loosely packed dirt and ice. This is all very odd......
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bit offtopic..or maybe not^^

its new


This radar image of asteroid 2005 YU55 was obtained on Nov. 7, 2011, at 11:45 a.m. PST (2:45 p.m. EST/1945 UTC), when the space rock was at 3.6 lunar distances, which is about 860,000 miles, or 1.38 million kilometers, from Earth.

[link to www.nasa.gov]
 Quoting: IwantToBelieve76


I don't like the looks of this. Thanks IWTB.
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


It appears perfectly spherical. This of course means it has enough gravity to be round, unlike so many other asteroids out there. This also probably suggests a much denser object, which most asteroids are loosely packed dirt and ice. This is all very odd......
 Quoting: TS66


Well it is a NASA picture, so it probably looks way different that this anyway....

Can't they get it on the Trinityscope yet?
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This is kind of a silly question..

but if we had some kind of foresight as to a HUGE flare.. would taking the battery out of our laptop potentially save it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1399029


I believe its not the battery that collects the energy in a geomagnetic storm but all the wires that will feed into your chips and fry your laptop. A geomagnetic storm is caused by a CME not a flare which won't do much if anything at all to your laptop. If you're really worried keep it unplugged during a G-storm and wrap it in aluminum foil. From my research this should be sufficient, not that anyone has ever had to actually do this before so I guess I can't say I'm absolutely sure. The foil seems a little overboard though, I think at that point there will be no electricity to recharge you laptop or to use anything else if a storm got THAT bad.
 Quoting: Relish


Put it in something non-conductive before wrapping in foil. Something like a cardboard box. Then wrap the box in aluminum foil, making sure there are no seams open. Look up "Faraday Cage" online. Find instructions on how to build one. They can be done very cheaply. Of course if the CME is strong enough, it potentially has the power to knock out the electric grid and disable satellites...etc. So, even if we save our electronics in a Faraday cage, there may be no electricity to be able to run them and no satellite signals either. So... 1dunno1
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a microwave oven IS a Faraday Cage.
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there was just a CME on the Northwest region of the solar disk
here it is on SDO

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]


STEREO A
[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

LASCO C2
[link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]

hope everyone is doing good and having a great day
were having a birthday party all day today for a little princess that turned 4
i will hop back on when things calm down here a bit more
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This is kind of a silly question..

but if we had some kind of foresight as to a HUGE flare.. would taking the battery out of our laptop potentially save it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1399029


I believe its not the battery that collects the energy in a geomagnetic storm but all the wires that will feed into your chips and fry your laptop. A geomagnetic storm is caused by a CME not a flare which won't do much if anything at all to your laptop. If you're really worried keep it unplugged during a G-storm and wrap it in aluminum foil. From my research this should be sufficient, not that anyone has ever had to actually do this before so I guess I can't say I'm absolutely sure. The foil seems a little overboard though, I think at that point there will be no electricity to recharge you laptop or to use anything else if a storm got THAT bad.
 Quoting: Relish


Put it in something non-conductive before wrapping in foil. Something like a cardboard box. Then wrap the box in aluminum foil, making sure there are no seams open. Look up "Faraday Cage" online. Find instructions on how to build one. They can be done very cheaply. Of course if the CME is strong enough, it potentially has the power to knock out the electric grid and disable satellites...etc. So, even if we save our electronics in a Faraday cage, there may be no electricity to be able to run them and no satellite signals either. So... 1dunno1
 Quoting: Shenue


Actually, I watched a video posted on here a month or so ago where someone was explaining how there was no need for a non conductive material to be wrapped around your electronics first. He was showing how a cell phone can't get, or losses, a signal when wrapped completely in foil and the same with a normal radio with a long metal antenna. This he wrapped while it was receiving a music radio signal and, when he had it completely wrapped, the music was silenced even though the antenna was clearly touching the foil. Does this not mean that the foil was redirecting the signal or waves around the item and not into the metal antenna it was touching? Wouldn't the foil that was wrapped around the radio simply become an extension to the antenna if it was conducting the waves into the radio instead of around it and thus the radio would have continued to play?

I'm really curious about this too as there seems to be many different views on this topic of "Faraday Cages" and I can't seem to get them strait. I guess I would suggest that anyone wanting to know should use a nonconductive material as well to be on the safe side. I really wonder if it is really necessary to go through the extra trouble though. Anyone have any considerations on the subject that could be helpful?
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there was just a CME on the Northwest region of the solar disk
here it is on SDO

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]


STEREO A
[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

LASCO C2
[link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]

hope everyone is doing good and having a great day
were having a birthday party all day today for a little princess that turned 4
i will hop back on when things calm down here a bit more
:)
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Awesome!

There are several posts that I would like to respond to here but will have to put it off for now. We have been hammerd with thunder storms and the lightning keeps zapping the local grid. I like them better during the day when I can observe them with me eyes!..hehe
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I see you lurking Nin:)

Have a great evening, I shall return for your morning report.

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major disruption signals at my wireless headphones.. sun related?
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Just me...Sorry!

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I see you lurking Nin:)

Have a great evening, I shall return for your morning report.

hf


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Hiya Z!

great to see ya!

It looks like the worst is over for a couple of hours here now. Power down 4 times. I am suprised to have power at all. In my experience...(often here in N Central TX) usually after the third trip..then the next down is lights out for hours untill they get the trucks out to fix it. I will just be thankful! Crazey "cloud to ground" lightning!

Hey XP! How is it over in your neck of the woods? haha
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This is kind of a silly question..

but if we had some kind of foresight as to a HUGE flare.. would taking the battery out of our laptop potentially save it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1399029


I believe its not the battery that collects the energy in a geomagnetic storm but all the wires that will feed into your chips and fry your laptop. A geomagnetic storm is caused by a CME not a flare which won't do much if anything at all to your laptop. If you're really worried keep it unplugged during a G-storm and wrap it in aluminum foil. From my research this should be sufficient, not that anyone has ever had to actually do this before so I guess I can't say I'm absolutely sure. The foil seems a little overboard though, I think at that point there will be no electricity to recharge you laptop or to use anything else if a storm got THAT bad.
 Quoting: Relish


Put it in something non-conductive before wrapping in foil. Something like a cardboard box. Then wrap the box in aluminum foil, making sure there are no seams open. Look up "Faraday Cage" online. Find instructions on how to build one. They can be done very cheaply. Of course if the CME is strong enough, it potentially has the power to knock out the electric grid and disable satellites...etc. So, even if we save our electronics in a Faraday cage, there may be no electricity to be able to run them and no satellite signals either. So... 1dunno1
 Quoting: Shenue


Actually, I watched a video posted on here a month or so ago where someone was explaining how there was no need for a non conductive material to be wrapped around your electronics first. He was showing how a cell phone can't get, or losses, a signal when wrapped completely in foil and the same with a normal radio with a long metal antenna. This he wrapped while it was receiving a music radio signal and, when he had it completely wrapped, the music was silenced even though the antenna was clearly touching the foil. Does this not mean that the foil was redirecting the signal or waves around the item and not into the metal antenna it was touching? Wouldn't the foil that was wrapped around the radio simply become an extension to the antenna if it was conducting the waves into the radio instead of around it and thus the radio would have continued to play?

I'm really curious about this too as there seems to be many different views on this topic of "Faraday Cages" and I can't seem to get them strait. I guess I would suggest that anyone wanting to know should use a nonconductive material as well to be on the safe side. I really wonder if it is really necessary to go through the extra trouble though. Anyone have any considerations on the subject that could be helpful?
 Quoting: Relish


I have looked through the ins and outs of this exact same thing. Here is my thinking on the subject, take it for what it's worth. The best thing to have is the actual "Faraday Cage"..but aluminum wrap will work. Of course you would not wrap it with out a cloth insulation first!...DURR!!! MMMKKK?

Next

You can throw electronics in the Fridge, freezer, car, microwave, oven, dishwasher, washing machine...etc. Please do wrap them in insulating material first!..even in clothes! so that there are no conductive surfaces touching the metal that you are using to divert these electrons! MMMKKK?

Most importantly; why in the hell are you trying to save a damn cell phone, or a computer? If there is an event that is powerful eneough to zap these electronics, then after you get them out of the "Microwave" use it to listn to your MP3s for the battery time left, because that is all they will be good for. There will be no internet or cell service! It will be too late to read those documents Your printer will not work. You will be wasting precious time. Print all documents that you would like to have in a world after electricity now!

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House got shook again last night during the 4.7 quake in Oklahoma...crazy stuff...

1339 is letting us down...strange things that make ya go hmmmmmmmm
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House got shook again last night during the 4.7 quake in Oklahoma...crazy stuff...

1339 is letting us down...strange things that make ya go hmmmmmmmm
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hmmmmmm is right. This is the uhmmmmmmmteenth active sunspot that has chosen to quiet when earth facing.

Good news for us, but it gets stranger and stranger each time.
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I believe its not the battery that collects the energy in a geomagnetic storm but all the wires that will feed into your chips and fry your laptop. A geomagnetic storm is caused by a CME not a flare which won't do much if anything at all to your laptop. If you're really worried keep it unplugged during a G-storm and wrap it in aluminum foil. From my research this should be sufficient, not that anyone has ever had to actually do this before so I guess I can't say I'm absolutely sure. The foil seems a little overboard though, I think at that point there will be no electricity to recharge you laptop or to use anything else if a storm got THAT bad.
 Quoting: Relish


Put it in something non-conductive before wrapping in foil. Something like a cardboard box. Then wrap the box in aluminum foil, making sure there are no seams open. Look up "Faraday Cage" online. Find instructions on how to build one. They can be done very cheaply. Of course if the CME is strong enough, it potentially has the power to knock out the electric grid and disable satellites...etc. So, even if we save our electronics in a Faraday cage, there may be no electricity to be able to run them and no satellite signals either. So... 1dunno1
 Quoting: Shenue


Actually, I watched a video posted on here a month or so ago where someone was explaining how there was no need for a non conductive material to be wrapped around your electronics first. He was showing how a cell phone can't get, or losses, a signal when wrapped completely in foil and the same with a normal radio with a long metal antenna. This he wrapped while it was receiving a music radio signal and, when he had it completely wrapped, the music was silenced even though the antenna was clearly touching the foil. Does this not mean that the foil was redirecting the signal or waves around the item and not into the metal antenna it was touching? Wouldn't the foil that was wrapped around the radio simply become an extension to the antenna if it was conducting the waves into the radio instead of around it and thus the radio would have continued to play?

I'm really curious about this too as there seems to be many different views on this topic of "Faraday Cages" and I can't seem to get them strait. I guess I would suggest that anyone wanting to know should use a nonconductive material as well to be on the safe side. I really wonder if it is really necessary to go through the extra trouble though. Anyone have any considerations on the subject that could be helpful?
 Quoting: Relish


I have looked through the ins and outs of this exact same thing. Here is my thinking on the subject, take it for what it's worth. The best thing to have is the actual "Faraday Cage"..but aluminum wrap will work. Of course you would not wrap it with out a cloth insulation first!...DURR!!! MMMKKK?

Next

You can throw electronics in the Fridge, freezer, car, microwave, oven, dishwasher, washing machine...etc. Please do wrap them in insulating material first!..even in clothes! so that there are no conductive surfaces touching the metal that you are using to divert these electrons! MMMKKK?

Most importantly; why in the hell are you trying to save a damn cell phone, or a computer? If there is an event that is powerful eneough to zap these electronics, then after you get them out of the "Microwave" use it to listn to your MP3s for the battery time left, because that is all they will be good for. There will be no internet or cell service! It will be too late to read those documents Your printer will not work. You will be wasting precious time. Print all documents that you would like to have in a world after electricity now!
 Quoting: tomasgod1


I like your last paragraph. That's exactly the point I was trying to make. I just worded it differently. lol
And yes the documents idea is a great one. Hub and I did that about 6 weeks ago.

And whether to wrap or not wrap in insulating material...There certainly are different opinions. I say, if you are inclined to save your electronics, errr on the side of safety. Wrap them first in the insulating, non conductive material.
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Put it in something non-conductive before wrapping in foil. Something like a cardboard box. Then wrap the box in aluminum foil, making sure there are no seams open. Look up "Faraday Cage" online. Find instructions on how to build one. They can be done very cheaply. Of course if the CME is strong enough, it potentially has the power to knock out the electric grid and disable satellites...etc. So, even if we save our electronics in a Faraday cage, there may be no electricity to be able to run them and no satellite signals either. So... 1dunno1
 Quoting: Shenue


Actually, I watched a video posted on here a month or so ago where someone was explaining how there was no need for a non conductive material to be wrapped around your electronics first. He was showing how a cell phone can't get, or losses, a signal when wrapped completely in foil and the same with a normal radio with a long metal antenna. This he wrapped while it was receiving a music radio signal and, when he had it completely wrapped, the music was silenced even though the antenna was clearly touching the foil. Does this not mean that the foil was redirecting the signal or waves around the item and not into the metal antenna it was touching? Wouldn't the foil that was wrapped around the radio simply become an extension to the antenna if it was conducting the waves into the radio instead of around it and thus the radio would have continued to play?

I'm really curious about this too as there seems to be many different views on this topic of "Faraday Cages" and I can't seem to get them strait. I guess I would suggest that anyone wanting to know should use a nonconductive material as well to be on the safe side. I really wonder if it is really necessary to go through the extra trouble though. Anyone have any considerations on the subject that could be helpful?
 Quoting: Relish


I have looked through the ins and outs of this exact same thing. Here is my thinking on the subject, take it for what it's worth. The best thing to have is the actual "Faraday Cage"..but aluminum wrap will work. Of course you would not wrap it with out a cloth insulation first!...DURR!!! MMMKKK?

Next

You can throw electronics in the Fridge, freezer, car, microwave, oven, dishwasher, washing machine...etc. Please do wrap them in insulating material first!..even in clothes! so that there are no conductive surfaces touching the metal that you are using to divert these electrons! MMMKKK?

Most importantly; why in the hell are you trying to save a damn cell phone, or a computer? If there is an event that is powerful eneough to zap these electronics, then after you get them out of the "Microwave" use it to listn to your MP3s for the battery time left, because that is all they will be good for. There will be no internet or cell service! It will be too late to read those documents Your printer will not work. You will be wasting precious time. Print all documents that you would like to have in a world after electricity now!
 Quoting: tomasgod1


I like your last paragraph. That's exactly the point I was trying to make. I just worded it differently. lol
And yes the documents idea is a great one. Hub and I did that about 6 weeks ago.

And whether to wrap or not wrap in insulating material...There certainly are different opinions. I say, if you are inclined to save your electronics, errr on the side of safety. Wrap them first in the insulating, non conductive material.
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I`m just going to lock and load and sit on the front porch chewing on a weed..I`m about as ready as I ever could be..
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Well finally a valid theory in regard to solar flares and their impact on asteroids ......

Thread: Fact: Solar Flares Change Asteroid Trajectories. (for those who think I am trolling) Yarkovsky Effect
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Actually, I watched a video posted on here a month or so ago where someone was explaining how there was no need for a non conductive material to be wrapped around your electronics first. He was showing how a cell phone can't get, or losses, a signal when wrapped completely in foil and the same with a normal radio with a long metal antenna. This he wrapped while it was receiving a music radio signal and, when he had it completely wrapped, the music was silenced even though the antenna was clearly touching the foil. Does this not mean that the foil was redirecting the signal or waves around the item and not into the metal antenna it was touching? Wouldn't the foil that was wrapped around the radio simply become an extension to the antenna if it was conducting the waves into the radio instead of around it and thus the radio would have continued to play?

I'm really curious about this too as there seems to be many different views on this topic of "Faraday Cages" and I can't seem to get them strait. I guess I would suggest that anyone wanting to know should use a nonconductive material as well to be on the safe side. I really wonder if it is really necessary to go through the extra trouble though. Anyone have any considerations on the subject that could be helpful?
 Quoting: Relish


I have looked through the ins and outs of this exact same thing. Here is my thinking on the subject, take it for what it's worth. The best thing to have is the actual "Faraday Cage"..but aluminum wrap will work. Of course you would not wrap it with out a cloth insulation first!...DURR!!! MMMKKK?

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You can throw electronics in the Fridge, freezer, car, microwave, oven, dishwasher, washing machine...etc. Please do wrap them in insulating material first!..even in clothes! so that there are no conductive surfaces touching the metal that you are using to divert these electrons! MMMKKK?

Most importantly; why in the hell are you trying to save a damn cell phone, or a computer? If there is an event that is powerful eneough to zap these electronics, then after you get them out of the "Microwave" use it to listn to your MP3s for the battery time left, because that is all they will be good for. There will be no internet or cell service! It will be too late to read those documents Your printer will not work. You will be wasting precious time. Print all documents that you would like to have in a world after electricity now!
 Quoting: tomasgod1


I like your last paragraph. That's exactly the point I was trying to make. I just worded it differently. lol
And yes the documents idea is a great one. Hub and I did that about 6 weeks ago.

And whether to wrap or not wrap in insulating material...There certainly are different opinions. I say, if you are inclined to save your electronics, errr on the side of safety. Wrap them first in the insulating, non conductive material.
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I`m just going to lock and load and sit on the front porch chewing on a weed..I`m about as ready as I ever could be..
 Quoting: <<LOOK`n thru YOU>>


Hmmm could be a viable alternative. lol A LOT less prep time, for sure. :-)
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Re: SOLAR WATCH * 312 M & 25 X FLARES starting 3-7-2011 (Updated Daily)
Sun very quite hmmmmm.... Like a sniper waiting for the perfect shot.....
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Sun very quite hmmmmm.... Like a sniper waiting for the perfect shot.....
 Quoting: Xray Papa



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Looking at the latest SDO Magnetogram, I can see that AR 1339 has lost some of its structure. The whole left side of this sunspot group has reduced remarkably over the past two days(see images below). 1339 is still in a Beta-Gamma Delta configuration, and it's still capable of producing strong flares, but I think they will be less frequent. The chance of very large X class flares is reduced as well.

Compare this image from the 4th....

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

with this current image....

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

As you can see the BGD structure is still there, but barely, and at this rate of deterioration may be lost completely within a matter of hours.
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