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SOLAR WATCH * 312 M & 25 X FLARES starting 3-7-2011 (Updated Daily)

 
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today we had a flare around the same time the Xray flux went out for a minute
here you can see where the Xray flux had a missing area
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

and here is a photo of the flare
[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
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what was the size of it?
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hard to tell
i did compare it to a few other recent flares and it looks to be around a high C to small M..?
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Region 11176 developed as quite a few new spots emerged, there's a lot of polarity intermixing. A major flare is possible.
Flares: M1.0 at 12:07, C1.6 at 15:37, C9.1 at 17:06, C1.3 at 18:57, C1.4 at 20:57 UTC.

Region 11177 was quiet and stable.
New region 11178 emerged near the southeast limb early in the day.
New region 11179 emerged in the northeast quadrant on March 21 and was detected by NOAA/SWPC 3 days later.

At midnight UTC the visible solar disk had 7 spotted regions.

Spotted regions not numbered by NOAA/SWPC:
[S917] rotated into view at the southeast limb on March 24. Location at midnight: S26E81
[S918] rotated into view at the northeast limb on March 24. Location at midnight: N23E79
[S919] emerged in the northeast quadrant on March 24. Location at midnight: N13E42

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i guess a title change wouldn't be prudent w/o some xray info, but it looked like a m1 to me at least..
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i guess a title change wouldn't be prudent w/o some xray info, but it looked like a m1 to me at least..
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i agree
it was a good sized flare, but no info on it anywhere that i can find right now
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CME associated? would be partially Earth directed if so imo..
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March 25th @ 15:04 utc

Solar Wind Speed = 419.0
Density = 1.7
Bz = +3.3
By = +3.5
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CME associated? would be partially Earth directed if so imo..
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I see a few small prominence lift off's when i look at SDO
[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

chose todays date, red, movie, 1024
after it loads, click minus to slow it down

look at the right hand side of 1176 and you can see what I'm talking about

any CME coming from that spot would be almost direct earth facing

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ok....
how ridiculous is this new image
[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
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ok....
how ridiculous is this new image
[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
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it almost looks as if they're hiding something..
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1176 is going to give a good flare today
and look at how massive the size of it is
[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

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1176 is going to give a good flare today
and look at how massive the size of it is
[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
 Quoting: NiNzrez


NinRez, I have contact with a group that are currently on watch for the 1176 active region, and they are right now "on bunker" and say there's probability even for an EMP coming from that region. I've been in contact with them since past november and this is the first time they have told me such a thing.
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NobodyinParticular has an interesting thread today on the sun eaters..

Thread: HUGE CRAFT AROUND THE SUN/Update sept 22 today (Page 6)
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ok....
how ridiculous is this new image
[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
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Wow, blatant. So now I see this is going to be really serious.
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ok....
how ridiculous is this new image
[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
 Quoting: NiNzrez


Wow, blatant. So now I see this is going to be really serious.
 Quoting: Red Hot Chilean Pepe (nli) 1312492


well whats the worse that could come from this?
:rage on:
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NOAA currently showing no alerts..

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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ok....
how ridiculous is this new image
[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
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Wow, blatant. So now I see this is going to be really serious.
 Quoting: Red Hot Chilean Pepe (nli) 1312492


well whats the worse that could come from this?
 Quoting: BEN DOVER


The brown dwarf is square and not circular???grinning
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ok....
how ridiculous is this new image
[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
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Wow, blatant. So now I see this is going to be really serious.
 Quoting: Red Hot Chilean Pepe (nli) 1312492


well whats the worse that could come from this?
 Quoting: BEN DOVER


An EMP could come (bye bye electronics). But the greater risk is for several M flares in a row that will end triggering one big quake probably like what happened prior to Japan's EQ.
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An EMP could come (bye bye electronics). But the greater risk is for several M flares in a row that will end triggering one big quake probably like what happened prior to Japan's EQ.
 Quoting: Red Hot Chilean Pepe (nli) 1312492


the spot region in question was reported to have a beta gamma and not terribly strong mag activity level yesterday, this could change any time of course..
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An EMP could come (bye bye electronics). But the greater risk is for several M flares in a row that will end triggering one big quake probably like what happened prior to Japan's EQ.
 Quoting: Red Hot Chilean Pepe (nli) 1312492


the spot region in question was reported to have a beta gamma and not terribly strong mag activity level yesterday, this could change any time of course..
 Quoting: OpenEnded

This is for today...

Region 11176 developed as quite a few new spots emerged, there's a lot of polarity intermixing. A major flare is possible.
[link to www.solen.info]
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i remember when we had 7 or 8 m flares in one day a couple of weeks ago...i think thats why nin made this thread. i hope we dont have a repeat of that
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1176 is going to give a good flare today
and look at how massive the size of it is
[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
 Quoting: NiNzrez


NinRez, I have contact with a group that are currently on watch for the 1176 active region, and they are right now "on bunker" and say there's probability even for an EMP coming from that region. I've been in contact with them since past november and this is the first time they have told me such a thing.
 Quoting: Red Hot Chilean Pepe (nli) 1312492


Thank you for that info Red Hot
we will keep an eye on this spot to see what it produces
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This is for today...

Region 11176 developed as quite a few new spots emerged, there's a lot of polarity intermixing. A major flare is possible.
[link to www.solen.info]
 Quoting: NiNzrez


that's pretty vague..
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ok....
how ridiculous is this new image
[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
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angryface
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1176 is going to give a good flare today
and look at how massive the size of it is
[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
 Quoting: NiNzrez


NinRez, I have contact with a group that are currently on watch for the 1176 active region, and they are right now "on bunker" and say there's probability even for an EMP coming from that region. I've been in contact with them since past november and this is the first time they have told me such a thing.
 Quoting: Red Hot Chilean Pepe (nli) 1312492


Thank you for that info Red Hot
we will keep an eye on this spot to see what it produces
 Quoting: NiNzrez


You're wellcome. I think a repeat scenario for what happened on 3/07 is plausible. All the M flaring that day (from this region) probably triggered the Japan's big EQ. Another round of M flares could give us a repeat elsewhere or worse, come back over Japan.
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ok....
how ridiculous is this new image
[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
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What is up with that????
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on days like today this thread should be re-pinned. instead of having all the bullshit pins that are up there right now...
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ok....
how ridiculous is this new image
[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
 Quoting: NiNzrez


Wow, blatant. So now I see this is going to be really serious.
 Quoting: Red Hot Chilean Pepe (nli) 1312492


well whats the worse that could come from this?
 Quoting: BEN DOVER


An EMP could come (bye bye electronics). But the greater risk is for several M flares in a row that will end triggering one big quake probably like what happened prior to Japan's EQ.
 Quoting: Red Hot Chilean Pepe (nli) 1312492


I met a retired mechanical engineer who worked for Westinghouse. He was in the nuclear reactor division. I asked if the computers, pumps, and backup generators were shielded from an external electromagnetic surge. He said not at all.

The 1859 Carrington Event was the largest known solar storm with flare and CME striking Earth. The best preparation seems to be disconnecting electric and electronic devices from use during the storm.


nuclear power is safe in an Electric Universe. Most rectors (and all western world) have containment systems to specifically prevent/contain meltdown. RBMK's (Chernobyl) did not have containment systems because the Soviets built thier reactors as dual purpose to give them the option to extract weapon grade plutonium. And since Chernobyl these have all been upgraded to prevent the possibily of meltdown.


I was under the impression water was required to cool the core of reactors. Without pumps to supply the water, and computers to direct things, and motors to shut things down, might not there be a problem?


Often things are engineered wonderfully, then an accountant comes along looking for savings. No offense to accountants. On other occasions, expert engineers are often surprised that bridges and dams fail.

Coolant is only one the systems to prevent meltdown. If that fails the sealed containment building itself is the final option. Coolant is to prevent meltdown, once that's failed it doesn't matter about the electric and pumps. RBMK's didn't have that final failsafe.

I think that the vulnerability of unshielded printed circuits is rather obvious in an Electric Universe. I hope the events in Japan have given nuclear reactor proponents a moment of pause. If the Earth does experience a EM pulse in the future, the last thing the survivors need are 1,000 reactors spewing radiation.

After being told our existing reactors are safe by the experts, i don't trust these same experts to design gravity supplied cooling reactors. They might also have problems in an Electric Universe.


if comet elenin comes close or fragments we could run a local test on one or 2 reactors for emp effects

see how we feel when the time comes rockon


i imagine

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Wow, blatant. So now I see this is going to be really serious.
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well whats the worse that could come from this?
 Quoting: BEN DOVER


An EMP could come (bye bye electronics). But the greater risk is for several M flares in a row that will end triggering one big quake probably like what happened prior to Japan's EQ.
 Quoting: Red Hot Chilean Pepe (nli) 1312492


I met a retired mechanical engineer who worked for Westinghouse. He was in the nuclear reactor division. I asked if the computers, pumps, and backup generators were shielded from an external electromagnetic surge. He said not at all.

The 1859 Carrington Event was the largest known solar storm with flare and CME striking Earth. The best preparation seems to be disconnecting electric and electronic devices from use during the storm.


nuclear power is safe in an Electric Universe. Most rectors (and all western world) have containment systems to specifically prevent/contain meltdown. RBMK's (Chernobyl) did not have containment systems because the Soviets built thier reactors as dual purpose to give them the option to extract weapon grade plutonium. And since Chernobyl these have all been upgraded to prevent the possibily of meltdown.


I was under the impression water was required to cool the core of reactors. Without pumps to supply the water, and computers to direct things, and motors to shut things down, might not there be a problem?


Often things are engineered wonderfully, then an accountant comes along looking for savings. No offense to accountants. On other occasions, expert engineers are often surprised that bridges and dams fail.

Coolant is only one the systems to prevent meltdown. If that fails the sealed containment building itself is the final option. Coolant is to prevent meltdown, once that's failed it doesn't matter about the electric and pumps. RBMK's didn't have that final failsafe.

I think that the vulnerability of unshielded printed circuits is rather obvious in an Electric Universe. I hope the events in Japan have given nuclear reactor proponents a moment of pause. If the Earth does experience a EM pulse in the future, the last thing the survivors need are 1,000 reactors spewing radiation.

After being told our existing reactors are safe by the experts, i don't trust these same experts to design gravity supplied cooling reactors. They might also have problems in an Electric Universe.


if comet elenin comes close or fragments we could run a local test on one or 2 reactors for emp effects

see how we feel when the time comes rockon


i imagine
 Quoting: aether


you bring up a excellent point when talking about a EM pulse
it is not only our comforts that will be taken away in an instant (i think most of us are prepared for this) but we now see the risk this brings up with the reactors around the world. A EMP would also instantly take out the electric at all effected nuclear plants. It would be nice if this thought was taking into consideration within the nuclear facilities so that this can be prevented
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i'm keeping an eye on this slow rise were having right now
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you bring up a excellent point when talking about a EM pulse
it is not only our comforts that will be taken away in an instant (i think most of us are prepared for this) but we now see the risk this brings up with the reactors around the world. A EMP would also instantly take out the electric at all effected nuclear plants. It would be nice if this thought was taking into consideration within the nuclear facilities so that this can be prevented
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The EMP Defense Council Announces the Electro-Magnetic Pulse (EMP) Priority Hardening List Ranked by Industry Vulnerability, and Proposes a Markets-Based Approach to Addressing Solar or Nuclear EMP Events
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anyone talking to them because it is not obvious they have their head around it

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