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SOLAR WATCH * 312 M & 25 X FLARES starting 3-7-2011 (Updated Daily)

 
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My fear isn't losing the luxuries of life, even toilet paper, lol. My fear is that without power we lose our ability to keep all these killer nuclear plants cooled.

Death is inevitable regardless of environmental factors, that doesn't frighten me. It's the slow and painful death of all of mankind as a consequence of foolish actions.
 Quoting: TS66


I couldn't agree more, TS.

400 Chernobyls: Solar Flares, EMP, and Nuclear Armageddon-


There are nearly 450 nuclear reactors in the world, with hundreds more either under construction or in the planning stages. There are 104 of these reactors in the USA and 195 in Europe. Imagine what havoc it would wreak on our civilization and the planet’s ecosystems if we were to suddenly witness not just one or two nuclear melt-downs but 400 or more! How likely is it that our world might experience an event that could ultimately cause hundreds of reactors to fail and melt down at approximately the same time? I venture to say that, unless we take significant protective measures, this apocalyptic scenario is not only possible but probable.

[link to whentechfails.com]
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


Great link Hugh. Good detail about the spent fuel storage issues. I'm going to post this link on Waterbug's thread as well.

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NOAA Kp Index back up to 6=Storm level-

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Geo-magnetic K-indices (up to 7=severe in Nunavut College, CA):

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

GOES Electon flux-very messy:

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

HAARP Fluxgate magnetometer:

[link to www.haarp.alaska.edu]
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Is this x bigger than the one from march 2011 ?
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My fear isn't losing the luxuries of life, even toilet paper, lol. My fear is that without power we lose our ability to keep all these killer nuclear plants cooled.

Death is inevitable regardless of environmental factors, that doesn't frighten me. It's the slow and painful death of all of mankind as a consequence of foolish actions.
 Quoting: TS66


I couldn't agree more, TS.

400 Chernobyls: Solar Flares, EMP, and Nuclear Armageddon-


There are nearly 450 nuclear reactors in the world, with hundreds more either under construction or in the planning stages. There are 104 of these reactors in the USA and 195 in Europe. Imagine what havoc it would wreak on our civilization and the planet’s ecosystems if we were to suddenly witness not just one or two nuclear melt-downs but 400 or more! How likely is it that our world might experience an event that could ultimately cause hundreds of reactors to fail and melt down at approximately the same time? I venture to say that, unless we take significant protective measures, this apocalyptic scenario is not only possible but probable.

[link to whentechfails.com]
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


Just about on target for a Fukushima followup.
Can we get a little GLP effect here please?
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Looks like the 2 smaller CMEs will bunch up from the shock of the big CME; and mass together to produce a mega-geo-storm. Expect the first wave around 10:00 UTC March 8th. The massive second wave will hit us halfway into the event. This could be one for record books!



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 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


LMAO! Our local weather guys is a quasi-suntard. I just posted this vid on his facebook page, and scooped a big write up he did by about 5 minutes.

:( He removed my post!

lolsign
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NASA magnetopause simulation for past 24 hrs....watch when it gets to 04:00-10:00 UTC, you can see the compression on the magnetosphere pressing into the geo-synchronus satellite orbit. This increases the exposure of satellites to the solar winds.

[link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080]

Realtime Bow-shock sim:

[link to pixie.spasci.com]

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Sorry : [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

I just see it inching down toward my neck of the woods each time I get back here to refresh.

Germany looks ok so far hf
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holy shit we're in trouble, magma is gonna move
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On a brighter note, it's a gorgeous day here in upstate NY !!! Have my doors open in this balmy 60* weather and my onions and garlic have sprouted. Here's to living life to it's fullest !!! hf
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It`s starting to get a slight heart beat again...this isn`t over yet I`m afraid
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X ray flux going up
[link to solarham.com]
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It`s starting to get a slight heart beat again...this isn`t over yet I`m afraid
 Quoting: <<LOOK`n thru YOU>>


From the forcast models we should be getting the worst of it pre-dawn in the morning? Am I right about that?

And also, how much difference does it make that we have had such hard hits already, as far as the magnetosphere goes? Does it weaken? And possibly allow what is coming to make more of an impact?

Sorry for all of the questions
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On a brighter note, it's a gorgeous day here in upstate NY !!! Have my doors open in this balmy 60* weather and my onions and garlic have sprouted. Here's to living life to it's fullest !!! hf
 Quoting: TS66


heck yeah---I`m leaving after work to go get a 5th wheel hitch put on my truck. Pick up our new camper this saturday..Life is good...66 degrees here---rain on the way for the next 4 days..Love a good old thunderstorm..especially with energized protons in the air. he he he
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On a brighter note, it's a gorgeous day here in upstate NY !!! Have my doors open in this balmy 60* weather and my onions and garlic have sprouted. Here's to living life to it's fullest !!! hf
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heck yeah---I`m leaving after work to go get a 5th wheel hitch put on my truck. Pick up our new camper this saturday..Life is good...66 degrees here---rain on the way for the next 4 days..Love a good old thunderstorm..especially with energized protons in the air. he he he
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Getting my 40' raptor 5th wheel this weekend also !
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[link to www.solarham.com]

It`s starting to get a slight heart beat again...this isn`t over yet I`m afraid
 Quoting: <<LOOK`n thru YOU>>


From the forcast models we should be getting the worst of it pre-dawn in the morning? Am I right about that?

And also, how much difference does it make that we have had such hard hits already, as far as the magnetosphere goes? Does it weaken? And possibly allow what is coming to make more of an impact?

Sorry for all of the questions
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1374436


Yep the CME is suppose to hit tomorrow...My comment was about the flux chart and expecting more flares and possible CME`s...and yes multiple CME`s on the magnetosphere within a short period can influence the affects we recieve..
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On a brighter note, it's a gorgeous day here in upstate NY !!! Have my doors open in this balmy 60* weather and my onions and garlic have sprouted. Here's to living life to it's fullest !!! hf
 Quoting: TS66


heck yeah---I`m leaving after work to go get a 5th wheel hitch put on my truck. Pick up our new camper this saturday..Life is good...66 degrees here---rain on the way for the next 4 days..Love a good old thunderstorm..especially with energized protons in the air. he he he
 Quoting: <<LOOK`n thru YOU>>


LMFAO!!!

Hearing GLP suntards make such light conversation, during such active solar activity, is more terrifying then if you all were screaming RUN FOR THE HILLS!!!!!!!!!
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On a brighter note, it's a gorgeous day here in upstate NY !!! Have my doors open in this balmy 60* weather and my onions and garlic have sprouted. Here's to living life to it's fullest !!! hf
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heck yeah---I`m leaving after work to go get a 5th wheel hitch put on my truck. Pick up our new camper this saturday..Life is good...66 degrees here---rain on the way for the next 4 days..Love a good old thunderstorm..especially with energized protons in the air. he he he
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Thunderstorms in a camper, awesome !!!
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On a brighter note, it's a gorgeous day here in upstate NY !!! Have my doors open in this balmy 60* weather and my onions and garlic have sprouted. Here's to living life to it's fullest !!! hf
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heck yeah---I`m leaving after work to go get a 5th wheel hitch put on my truck. Pick up our new camper this saturday..Life is good...66 degrees here---rain on the way for the next 4 days..Love a good old thunderstorm..especially with energized protons in the air. he he he
 Quoting: <<LOOK`n thru YOU>>


Getting my 40' raptor 5th wheel this weekend also !
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Suuuweeeeeet...we are a family of three...Got us a used(new to us) fleetwood 26 footer...I only have a 1/2 ton truck anyhow. We used to have an RV but decided to go with a 5th wheel. That way we always have a truck with us to outrun tornadoes and shit..he he...

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[link to www.solarham.com]

It`s starting to get a slight heart beat again...this isn`t over yet I`m afraid
 Quoting: <<LOOK`n thru YOU>>


From the forcast models we should be getting the worst of it pre-dawn in the morning? Am I right about that?

And also, how much difference does it make that we have had such hard hits already, as far as the magnetosphere goes? Does it weaken? And possibly allow what is coming to make more of an impact?

Sorry for all of the questions
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1374436


Yep the CME is suppose to hit tomorrow...My comment was about the flux chart and expecting more flares and possible CME`s...and yes multiple CME`s on the magnetosphere within a short period can influence the affects we recieve..
 Quoting: <<LOOK`n thru YOU>>


Thanks dear. hf

Will have to log in and give ya some green. :)
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On a brighter note, it's a gorgeous day here in upstate NY !!! Have my doors open in this balmy 60* weather and my onions and garlic have sprouted. Here's to living life to it's fullest !!! hf
 Quoting: TS66


heck yeah---I`m leaving after work to go get a 5th wheel hitch put on my truck. Pick up our new camper this saturday..Life is good...66 degrees here---rain on the way for the next 4 days..Love a good old thunderstorm..especially with energized protons in the air. he he he
 Quoting: <<LOOK`n thru YOU>>


LMFAO!!!

Hearing GLP suntards make such light conversation, during such active solar activity, is more terrifying then if you all were screaming RUN FOR THE HILLS!!!!!!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1374436


40' raptor 5th wheel stocked = bug out house !
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On a brighter note, it's a gorgeous day here in upstate NY !!! Have my doors open in this balmy 60* weather and my onions and garlic have sprouted. Here's to living life to it's fullest !!! hf
 Quoting: TS66


heck yeah---I`m leaving after work to go get a 5th wheel hitch put on my truck. Pick up our new camper this saturday..Life is good...66 degrees here---rain on the way for the next 4 days..Love a good old thunderstorm..especially with energized protons in the air. he he he
 Quoting: <<LOOK`n thru YOU>>


LMFAO!!!

Hearing GLP suntards make such light conversation, during such active solar activity, is more terrifying then if you all were screaming RUN FOR THE HILLS!!!!!!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1374436


That`s funny rat there....rofl...one needs to keep looking ahead...lol
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Flux is acting a little strangely .... (again)

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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[link to www.solarham.com]

It`s starting to get a slight heart beat again...this isn`t over yet I`m afraid
 Quoting: <<LOOK`n thru YOU>>


From the forcast models we should be getting the worst of it pre-dawn in the morning? Am I right about that?

And also, how much difference does it make that we have had such hard hits already, as far as the magnetosphere goes? Does it weaken? And possibly allow what is coming to make more of an impact?

Sorry for all of the questions
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1374436


Yep the CME is suppose to hit tomorrow...My comment was about the flux chart and expecting more flares and possible CME`s...and yes multiple CME`s on the magnetosphere within a short period can influence the affects we recieve..
 Quoting: <<LOOK`n thru YOU>>


Thanks dear. hf

Will have to log in and give ya some green. :)
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Oooooo...that sounds like a chicky--who dat??? he he he...tomato
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Thread: The Sun is More Active Now than Over the Last 8000 Years
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On a brighter note, it's a gorgeous day here in upstate NY !!! Have my doors open in this balmy 60* weather and my onions and garlic have sprouted. Here's to living life to it's fullest !!! hf
 Quoting: TS66


heck yeah---I`m leaving after work to go get a 5th wheel hitch put on my truck. Pick up our new camper this saturday..Life is good...66 degrees here---rain on the way for the next 4 days..Love a good old thunderstorm..especially with energized protons in the air. he he he
 Quoting: <<LOOK`n thru YOU>>


LMFAO!!!

Hearing GLP suntards make such light conversation, during such active solar activity, is more terrifying then if you all were screaming RUN FOR THE HILLS!!!!!!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1374436


That`s funny rat there....rofl...one needs to keep looking ahead...lol
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Yeh, it struck me as funny.

Im not an official suntard, and tend to only follow during major activity....

How intense are things right now compared to usual? I dont know much about the readings and all. But I cant remember a time when official forcast and warnings were quite so dire.

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Flux is acting a little strangely .... (again)

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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... and they haven't even called it a flare ???
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heck yeah---I`m leaving after work to go get a 5th wheel hitch put on my truck. Pick up our new camper this saturday..Life is good...66 degrees here---rain on the way for the next 4 days..Love a good old thunderstorm..especially with energized protons in the air. he he he
 Quoting: <<LOOK`n thru YOU>>


LMFAO!!!

Hearing GLP suntards make such light conversation, during such active solar activity, is more terrifying then if you all were screaming RUN FOR THE HILLS!!!!!!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1374436


That`s funny rat there....rofl...one needs to keep looking ahead...lol
 Quoting: <<LOOK`n thru YOU>>


Yeh, it struck me as funny.

Im not an official suntard, and tend to only follow during major activity....

How intense are things right now compared to usual? I dont know much about the readings and all. But I cant remember a time when official forcast and warnings were quite so dire.

hiding
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oh this is major alright.

on the other hand, it still may not affect all that much. the Earth's magnetic field can protect us.
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I have a question.

When we get hit by the X class CME in the next couple of days, and during getting hit by that energy, another x class 5.4 flare goes off is that just as dangerous as say and X45 flare hitting us?
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Astrophysicist Alexei Dmitriev says that both Voyager 1 and Voyager 2 satellites reveal that our sun, as well as our entire solar system, is now moving into an interstellar energy cloud. Opher, a NASA Heliophysics Guest Investigator from George Mason University says this interstellar energy cloud is turbulent. Dmitriev explains that this cloud of energy is exciting the atmospheres of our planets and especially our sun. As this interstellar energy cloud continues to excite/charge the sun, it causes the sun to become more active, resulting in greater output from the sun. IE: Bigger and more frequent solar storms and CME's resulting in the Carrington effect. This interstellar cloud of electrical energy is also absorbed by the Earth, and scientist have found that it results in more earth quakes, all while dramatically effecting our weather here on earth. When asked how long will it take our sun to pass through this interstellar energy cloud, Dr. Dmitriev replied, "I don't know. But If I had to guess, I would say somewhere between two thousand to three thousand years." This interstellar cloud is a wispy band of charged particles through which our solar system is slowly moving through.


When Dr. Dmitriev was asked what are the implications of all this for earth he replied, "Global catastrophe! Not in tens of years from now, but in ones of years" ...in that this global catastrophe is basically right around the corner setting the stage for NASA's latest solar storm warning 2012-2013.



Dr.Dmitriev is talking about the Carrington Effect which can knock out electrical power and all modern forms of communications world wide for months on end, even years. When that happens, global anarchy and mass looting will soon begin as the food chain will become paralyzed/crippled in modern countries, while water shortages will quickly become a threat to our very survival because electricity is what runs the pumps that gets the water to our homes and offices. If you are not prepared prepared to be self efficient for one to two years, then you and your family will be at risk of dehydration and starvation during a time when drinking water, food and toilet paper will be more valuable then money itself.

[link to solarstormwarning.com]

OOOH no! toilet paper doom!
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uh-oh.
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From Solarham's facebook page:


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WATCH: Geomagnetic A-index of 50 or greater predicted
NOAA Scale: Periods reaching the G3 (Strong) Level Likely
Valid for UTC Day: 2012 Mar 08
Potential Impacts: Area of impact primarily poleward of 50 degrees Geomagnetic Latitude.
Induced Currents - Power system voltage irregularities possible, false alarms may be triggered on some protection devices.
Spacecraft - Systems may experience surface charging; increased drag on low Earth-orbit satellites and orientation problems may occur.
Navigation - Intermittent satellite navigation (GPS) problems, including loss-of-lock and increased range error may occur.
Radio - HF (high frequency) radio may be intermittent.
Aurora - Aurora may be seen as low as Pennsylvania to Iowa to Oregon.
"And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather EXPOSE them" - Eph. 5:11
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indeed, A 50
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