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SOLAR WATCH * 255 M & 18 X FLARES starting 3-7-2011 (Updated Daily) | |
<<LOOK`n thru YOU>> User ID: 1031150  United States03/10/2012 11:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's hard to tell since it hasn't actually hit yet. We are due for one in the next twelve hours and the one from todays LDE after that. We typically don't know their effects until they hit and that seems to be based on a number of variables we don't quite understand. At this point I don't think anybody knows if we will get one strong hit and one mediocre hit, or two devastating impacts or none at all since the planet reacts differently on a case by case basis to each particular hit. I'm not sure if I'm worried about these two CMEs, they aren't quite back to back and the speed of the second isn't quite as high to give someone an immediate "oh fuck" reaction, carrington was something like 2,400kms+ supposedly. Ok thanks :) I sure hope the lack of the "oh fuck!" factor really is a good sign lol haha we all do say that to ourselvs a lot and have many times over this last week haha^^ we just try hard to contain ourselvs and not let our emotional sides control our thinking about whats going on and what will happen. wow! what an intence solar week we have had! Yes it has been a helluva week..suntards dream..lol...i just wish they would keep all the simlations running during these heavier storms so we arent in the dark and jumping all over the place looking for updated information.....it just makes ya go hmmmmm when they pull that shit...guess we have to work with what we got....and we got a helluva team on this thread doing a great job....  |
| NiNzrez (OP) User ID: 10498853 United States03/10/2012 11:32 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Im just wondering, other than effecting radio/telecommunications, what effects can we expect on the 11th/12th march?.. I notice there seems to be a little bit of anxiety/nervousness/excitment on this thread atm in relation to all these flares and cme's.. just wondering what it all means for us in terms of physical effects.. thanks in advance for any answers.. Quoting: LD 12273661 Biology There is a growing body of evidence that changes in the geomagnetic field affect biological systems. Studies indicate that physically stressed human biological systems may respond to fluctuations in the geomagnetic field. Interest and concern in this subject have led the International Union of Radio Science to create a new commission entitled Commission K — Electromagnetics in Biology and Medicine [link to en.wikipedia.org] ;) Magnetic Storms Affect Humans As Well As Telecommunications? [link to www.spacedaily.com] Last Edited by NiNzrez on 03/10/2012 11:33 PM Solar Alerts Blog [link to mysolaralerts.blogspot.com] Join Me On The GLP SOLAR WATCH Thread Thread: SOLAR WATCH * 255 M & 18 X FLARES starting 3-7-2011 (Updated Daily) Thread: Magnetic Field Deficiency Syndrome- MAKING US SICK **MUST READ*** How long will you simple ones love your simple ways? How long will mockers delight in mockery and fools hate knowledge? |
| NiNzrez (OP) User ID: 10498853 United States03/10/2012 11:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Starwind It's hard to tell since it hasn't actually hit yet. We are due for one in the next twelve hours and the one from todays LDE after that. We typically don't know their effects until they hit and that seems to be based on a number of variables we don't quite understand. At this point I don't think anybody knows if we will get one strong hit and one mediocre hit, or two devastating impacts or none at all since the planet reacts differently on a case by case basis to each particular hit. I'm not sure if I'm worried about these two CMEs, they aren't quite back to back and the speed of the second isn't quite as high to give someone an immediate "oh fuck" reaction, carrington was something like 2,400kms+ supposedly. Ok thanks :) I sure hope the lack of the "oh fuck!" factor really is a good sign lol haha we all do say that to ourselvs a lot and have many times over this last week haha^^ we just try hard to contain ourselvs and not let our emotional sides control our thinking about whats going on and what will happen. wow! what an intence solar week we have had! Yes it has been a helluva week..suntards dream..lol...i just wish they would keep all the simlations running during these heavier storms so we arent in the dark and jumping all over the place looking for updated information.....it just makes ya go hmmmmm when they pull that shit...guess we have to work with what we got....and we got a helluva team on this thread doing a great job.... you can always head over the the My Solar Alerts blog hehe ^^ we update the reports on there all throughout the day as data and information comes in pluss, we keep a running list of expected events on the right hand column this running list is updated as needed so that it is accurate to the best of what we know :) Solar Alerts Blog [link to mysolaralerts.blogspot.com] Join Me On The GLP SOLAR WATCH Thread Thread: SOLAR WATCH * 255 M & 18 X FLARES starting 3-7-2011 (Updated Daily) Thread: Magnetic Field Deficiency Syndrome- MAKING US SICK **MUST READ*** How long will you simple ones love your simple ways? How long will mockers delight in mockery and fools hate knowledge? |
| Hugh M Eye User ID: 12306182 United States03/10/2012 11:40 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Empirical Model for Prediction.... (snip) 3. Storm Prediction Model [25] Although the above comparisons suggest general dependencies of geomagnetic storm strength on CME parameters, no single CME parameter is found to signifi- cantly correlate with geomagnetic storm strength. This implies that a geomagnetic storm cannot be predicted by any single CME parameter, but depends on all of these para- meters in a more complicated way. We thus propose a model in which the geomagnetic storm strength (Dst in nT) depends on four major parameters . [Press et al., 2007]: (snip) PDF: [link to www.agu.org] Last Edited by Hugh M Eye on 03/10/2012 11:52 PM "There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a longer shelf life." Frank Zappa "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-Albert Einstein |
| Hugh M Eye User ID: 12306182 United States03/10/2012 11:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Spatial Relationships Between Solar Flares and Coronal Mass Ejections (2008) A typical CME consists of a bright frontal structure (leading edge), followed by a dark cavity, and a bright core. This configuration is called the CME three-part structure (Illing & Hundhausen 1985; Webb 1988). The bright core corresponds to the erupting filament (Webb & Hundhausen 1987; Gopalswamy et al. 2003a). There is an issue of whether or not narrow CMEs have the three-part structure (e.g., Gilbert et al. 2001), but at least for large CMEs, this structure is fundamental. In this paper we refer to the three-part structure as the main CME body. Some CMEs possess a faint envelope outside of the main CME body. The envelope might be a shock wave driven by the CME (Sheeley et al. 2000; Vourlidas et al. 2003; Ciaravella et al. 2005); thus there is a problem of whether or not the envelope is a part of the CMEs (see St. Cyr 2005). However, since there is no established way to identify a shock by coronagraph observation itself, we have included the envelope structures as a part of the CME and refer to all the CME features as the whole CME. [link to iopscience.iop.org] "There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a longer shelf life." Frank Zappa "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-Albert Einstein |
| LD User ID: 12273661  Australia03/10/2012 11:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Im just wondering, other than effecting radio/telecommunications, what effects can we expect on the 11th/12th march?.. I notice there seems to be a little bit of anxiety/nervousness/excitment on this thread atm in relation to all these flares and cme's.. just wondering what it all means for us in terms of physical effects.. thanks in advance for any answers.. Quoting: LD 12273661 Biology There is a growing body of evidence that changes in the geomagnetic field affect biological systems. Studies indicate that physically stressed human biological systems may respond to fluctuations in the geomagnetic field. Interest and concern in this subject have led the International Union of Radio Science to create a new commission entitled Commission K — Electromagnetics in Biology and Medicine [link to en.wikipedia.org] ;) Magnetic Storms Affect Humans As Well As Telecommunications? [link to www.spacedaily.com] Thanks for the link Nin, just one more thing... what if anything concerns you about the next 24/48 hrs? :) |
| NiNzrez (OP) User ID: 10498853 United States03/10/2012 11:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i highly recomend everyone read this "Radiation is a common word, but in space weather studies, there are two types that differ in important ways. Matter - in the form of electrons, protons and the ions of various atoms, which travel much slower than the speed of light. Electromagnetic - In the form of X-rays, visible light, gamma rays and other forms of energy that travel at the speed of light. Radiation: most of us have an instinctive fear of it. Even the word, itself, is cloaked in mystery and a sense of foreboding. In reality, we are all more familiar with radiation than we suspect. No matter where you live, you receive 15-20 chest X-rays each year of environmental radiation - and there is almost nothing you can do about it. Even solar storms add their share to this cargo of potential damage. read more : [link to www.solarstorms.org] link is from here [link to www.solarstorms.org] it will answer a lot of questions i see being asked on this thread :) Solar Alerts Blog [link to mysolaralerts.blogspot.com] Join Me On The GLP SOLAR WATCH Thread Thread: SOLAR WATCH * 255 M & 18 X FLARES starting 3-7-2011 (Updated Daily) Thread: Magnetic Field Deficiency Syndrome- MAKING US SICK **MUST READ*** How long will you simple ones love your simple ways? How long will mockers delight in mockery and fools hate knowledge? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 9525784 United States03/10/2012 11:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1379864 another of the object on the composite reveals a more definite shape. Bottom left. Any info guys? I just want to make sure I know what I'm looking at. Don't know the correct terms, but this is another solar tornado, like others we have been seeing this past few weeks or so. It seems like it is pulling/sucking down the atmosphere or whatever surrounds the sun. |
| NiNzrez (OP) User ID: 10498853 United States03/10/2012 11:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The last major space storm caused an electrical blackout in Quebec (1989) [link to www.solarstorms.org] Solar Alerts Blog [link to mysolaralerts.blogspot.com] Join Me On The GLP SOLAR WATCH Thread Thread: SOLAR WATCH * 255 M & 18 X FLARES starting 3-7-2011 (Updated Daily) Thread: Magnetic Field Deficiency Syndrome- MAKING US SICK **MUST READ*** How long will you simple ones love your simple ways? How long will mockers delight in mockery and fools hate knowledge? |
| ThreeWhiteEyes User ID: 11281376 United States03/11/2012 12:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Consider this: Thread: Z CLASS solar flares this summer?? chemtrails understood? talking sun? question marks?? Some things are better left unsaid. |
| Hugh M Eye User ID: 12306182 United States03/11/2012 12:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Happy Birthday to Me!     What? No tsunami for me this year?  Solar Doom....well, that's more like it!            "There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a longer shelf life." Frank Zappa "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-Albert Einstein |
| RTS REDUX User ID: 8620349 United States03/11/2012 12:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1379864 another of the object on the composite reveals a more definite shape. Bottom left. Any info guys? I just want to make sure I know what I'm looking at. Don't know the correct terms, but this is another solar tornado, like others we have been seeing this past few weeks or so. It seems like it is pulling/sucking down the atmosphere or whatever surrounds the sun. Yup..I've been watching it all day and hoping Helioviewer would update so I can make a movie of it. I'm sure it'll show rotation like all the others    "If one understands that socialism is not a share-the-wealth programme, but is in reality a method to consolidate and control the wealth, then the seeming paradox of super-rich men promoting socialism becomes no paradox at all. Instead, it becomes logical, even the perfect tool of power-seeking megalomaniacs. Communism or more accurately, socialism, is not a movement of the downtrodden masses, but of the economic elite." Gary Allen NONE DARE CALL IT CONSPIRACY |
| Hugh M Eye User ID: 12306182 United States03/11/2012 12:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The last major space storm caused an electrical blackout in Quebec (1989) [link to www.solarstorms.org] ....and a giant transformer melted at Salem Nuclear plant.....less than than 30 miles from where I type these words. [link to neutronm.bartol.udel.edu] "There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a longer shelf life." Frank Zappa "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-Albert Einstein |
| truz1980 User ID: 11292449 United States03/11/2012 12:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 5240732 United States03/11/2012 12:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The last major space storm caused an electrical blackout in Quebec (1989) [link to www.solarstorms.org] ....and a giant transformer melted at Salem Nuclear plant.....less than than 30 miles from where I type these words. [link to neutronm.bartol.udel.edu] Happy Birthday from a NJ neighbor!!! |
| Hugh M Eye User ID: 12306182 United States03/11/2012 12:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The last major space storm caused an electrical blackout in Quebec (1989) [link to www.solarstorms.org] ....and a giant transformer melted at Salem Nuclear plant.....less than than 30 miles from where I type these words. [link to neutronm.bartol.udel.edu] Happy Birthday from a NJ neighbor!!! You must work at nuclear plant, eh, Homer?  Jes' kiddin', thanks, friend. By the way, I finally got some SOHO images. They look disappointing in a way...because when you look down the barrel of a gun it doesn't look as romantic as it did on TV. Full halo events are mostly obscured by the occulting disk and the rapid expansion (imagine your Dick Cheney's lawyer and a shotgun suddenly goes off in your face). Also, keep in mind, the initial CME was from the C8 flare from AR1430. [link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov] [link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov] Thanks to STEREO, we've already seen how explosive this CME was.  "There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a longer shelf life." Frank Zappa "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-Albert Einstein |
| tomasgod1 User ID: 11714381 United States03/11/2012 12:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I walk go out for a day with the kids and you guys tear through ten pages..gesh! How come the Sun always waits for Nin, but if I turn my back long eneough to mow the yard,or wash my truck,I will find out I was doing it during an X Flare.. haha.  _______ Blog [link to mysolaralerts.blogspot.com] YouTube Channel [link to www.youtube.com] "Give me Liberty, or give me Death!" FOUNDING FATHER, Patrick Henry (May 29, 1736 – June 6, 1799) |
| MzTreeChick User ID: 8921927 Australia03/11/2012 12:37 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i highly recomend everyone read this Quoting: NiNzrez "Radiation is a common word, but in space weather studies, there are two types that differ in important ways. Matter - in the form of electrons, protons and the ions of various atoms, which travel much slower than the speed of light. Electromagnetic - In the form of X-rays, visible light, gamma rays and other forms of energy that travel at the speed of light. Radiation: most of us have an instinctive fear of it. Even the word, itself, is cloaked in mystery and a sense of foreboding. In reality, we are all more familiar with radiation than we suspect. No matter where you live, you receive 15-20 chest X-rays each year of environmental radiation - and there is almost nothing you can do about it. Even solar storms add their share to this cargo of potential damage. read more : [link to www.solarstorms.org] link is from here [link to www.solarstorms.org] it will answer a lot of questions i see being asked on this thread :) Yes it does, thank you.  |
| Hugh M Eye User ID: 12306182 United States03/11/2012 12:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | SOHO Coronagraph 3 images: [link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov] [link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov] [link to umbra.gsfc.nasa.gov:80] "There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a longer shelf life." Frank Zappa "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-Albert Einstein |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 3487467 United States03/11/2012 12:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| whiteangel User ID: 1775746 United States03/11/2012 01:10 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Happy Birthday to Me! Quoting: Hugh M Eye What? No tsunami for me this year? Solar Doom....well, that's more like it! Happy Birthday!! Mine was the 6th so I gave a big sigh then too, lol.  I may be paranoid but that doesn't mean I'm wrong. May the Angels clear the way for you. Psalm 91:11-12(NKJV) 11 For He shall give His angels charge over you,To keep you in all your ways. 12 In their hands they shall bear you up,Lest you dash your foot against a stone. |
| Hugh M Eye User ID: 12306182 United States03/11/2012 01:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Happy Birthday to Me! Quoting: Hugh M Eye What? No tsunami for me this year? Solar Doom....well, that's more like it! Happy Birthday!! Mine was the 6th so I gave a big sigh then too, lol. Thanks, whiteangel!  I been out to the high-country once....mighty purdy out there. Are you near Cheyenne Mtn. or the Denver Airport? It's nice to have an underground bunker sometimes, hehe. I'd settle for a cliff-dwelling myself."There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a longer shelf life." Frank Zappa "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-Albert Einstein |
| <<LOOK`n thru YOU>> User ID: 1031150 United States03/11/2012 01:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| tomasgod1 User ID: 11714381 United States03/11/2012 01:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Happy Birthday to Me! Quoting: Hugh M Eye What? No tsunami for me this year? Solar Doom....well, that's more like it! Happy B day!  It looks like a spike coming in on the NICT. Will check ACE data. _______ Blog [link to mysolaralerts.blogspot.com] YouTube Channel [link to www.youtube.com] "Give me Liberty, or give me Death!" FOUNDING FATHER, Patrick Henry (May 29, 1736 – June 6, 1799) |
| whiteangel User ID: 1775746 United States03/11/2012 01:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks, whiteangel! I been out to the high-country once....mighty purdy out there. Are you near Cheyenne Mtn. or the Denver Airport? It's nice to have an underground bunker sometimes, hehe. I'd settle for a cliff-dwelling myself.Would have rather have the cliff dwelling also! Sorry to say I am just too near DIA but further north/west I may be paranoid but that doesn't mean I'm wrong. May the Angels clear the way for you. Psalm 91:11-12(NKJV) 11 For He shall give His angels charge over you,To keep you in all your ways. 12 In their hands they shall bear you up,Lest you dash your foot against a stone. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1397073  Finland03/11/2012 01:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Im just wondering, other than effecting radio/telecommunications, what effects can we expect on the 11th/12th march?.. I notice there seems to be a little bit of anxiety/nervousness/excitment on this thread atm in relation to all these flares and cme's.. just wondering what it all means for us in terms of physical effects.. thanks in advance for any answers.. Quoting: LD 12273661 Biology There is a growing body of evidence that changes in the geomagnetic field affect biological systems. Studies indicate that physically stressed human biological systems may respond to fluctuations in the geomagnetic field. Interest and concern in this subject have led the International Union of Radio Science to create a new commission entitled Commission K — Electromagnetics in Biology and Medicine [link to en.wikipedia.org] ;) Magnetic Storms Affect Humans As Well As Telecommunications? [link to www.spacedaily.com] When dancing Bx, By and Bz keep rapidly changing due to body movements and orientation changes. Now, that must be really stressful ...  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 12179442 United States03/11/2012 01:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What was that? [link to www2.nict.go.jp] Anyone else's internet connection just slow down? I usually have 13-15 Mbps with a 45 ms ping. just went to 3 Mbps with a 100+ ping. |
| Hugh M Eye User ID: 12306182 United States03/11/2012 01:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Proof of the existence of God We've watched this star called Sol for one amazing year....quite closely. Ponder this .... A study by Yale astronomer Pieter van Dokkum just took the estimated number of stars in the universe—100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000, or 100 sextillion—and tripled it. [link to blogs.discovermagazine.com] 1 of 300 billion galaxies: [link to apod.nasa.gov] Well beyond our puny, primitive brains there must lie an awesome intelligence to keep this matrix up & running.  "There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a longer shelf life." Frank Zappa "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-Albert Einstein |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 5240732 United States03/11/2012 01:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What was that? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12179442 [link to www2.nict.go.jp] Anyone else's internet connection just slow down? I usually have 13-15 Mbps with a 45 ms ping. just went to 3 Mbps with a 100+ ping. The graphs look weird to me too, glitch from incoming?? And my internet also just spazzed... Took forever to refresh page and close some of my other open tabs. |
| Hugh M Eye User ID: 12306182 United States03/11/2012 01:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We have new activity in the X-Ray flux.... [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] "There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a longer shelf life." Frank Zappa "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-Albert Einstein |
