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SOLAR WATCH * 312 M & 25 X FLARES starting 3-7-2011 (Updated Daily)

 
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now it is plain gone. [link to www2.nict.go.jp]
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The ACE satellite solar wind data is shut down again. This I expected, as it seems to be a regular occurrence lately.

6-Hr. ACE SW-MAG plots (you can see where it goes whacko):

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

We can get some Solar wind data from SOHO:

[link to umtof.umd.edu]

Unfortunately NICT and all of the other programs are based on ACE data ;:(

GOES Magnetometer:

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

GOES Electron Flux:

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

K Indices show all quiet so far:

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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The computer time says 709 the clock went and set backwards to 610 which is back 1 hour. It set fine on its own last night......Its one you never have to set--- a sharp etomic
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Interesting.

Thank you kindly for posting.


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Glad to hear NICT is back up. Had me worried for a minute!

Does anyone have any idea what the anomaly on the sun is?
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Glad to hear NICT is back up. Had me worried for a minute!

Does anyone have any idea what the anomaly on the sun is?
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A guy in the pinned thread posted this saying it was a filament cavity;...

Best guess I could find so far.


Well, you guys are not going to like this. I hate to be responsible for killing a good thread, but I just got a message on my YTube channel that this anomaly is what is called a, "filament cavity" or, "filament channel". One was observed for three days in 1997. Here is a link to the page describing the event:


[link to mithra.physics.montana.edu]



There is still some mystery involved; no one really knows how these are caused.

wine
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cool2My question is inside;
Is it to stop the activity or to increase it? ...
We will know within hours if the sun becomes violent or the opposite, I have a conclusion and that is, if you have not seen anything prior to the high activity, but now that the sun is about to unleash large flares lets see it today, then I think the intention of the object is * slow * activity, and boy, it seems that this is so that the level of protons is inexplicably flat ...
Maybe I can be to mitigate for any special event and then the sun will continue its cycle high, but if it lasts longer quiet hours ... so maybe my theory is correct, if not there been only a capricious personal view wrong .
Immediately my mind began to recede and I remembered a picture of the many that I keep on Sumerians, Assyrians and Babylonians ... I kept hechado in bed in this hellish hot afternoon where you can not be inside or out, rather than air conditioning , and left the rest, I searched and found a CD that I was disturbing image ... and of course ... to see it I can only understand many things.
A high god, sitting comfortably leading his creation, who holds a column can be a partner holding the sun hung on ropes and down ... other partners who seem "" "repair something that Sun" "" fairly. in the same place .... what we are seeing today in our sun ..

link image Una-Anu;

[link to www.crystalinks.com]

Coincidence?, Maybe someone of you might believe that I have too much imagination, or the Sumerian figure represents something else, according to scholars, but do not know ...
Every time something strange can be seen, the ones that are talking and are seen by everyone, always consider that reveal that we tie ropes and not by mere chance.
Manuel

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It's been several hours since I published my theory, and seems to be coming true. The strange object near the sun, the activity has changed, so we're all confused .. trying Official data report that the Sun is almost dead .. no activity.
Remind me, especially those who always write in this thread and are now missing, experts ... I'm not, I'm just an observer of all.
cool2
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Glad to hear NICT is back up. Had me worried for a minute!

Does anyone have any idea what the anomaly on the sun is?
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A guy in the pinned thread posted this saying it was a filament cavity;...

Best guess I could find so far.


Well, you guys are not going to like this. I hate to be responsible for killing a good thread, but I just got a message on my YTube channel that this anomaly is what is called a, "filament cavity" or, "filament channel". One was observed for three days in 1997. Here is a link to the page describing the event:


[link to mithra.physics.montana.edu]



There is still some mystery involved; no one really knows how these are caused.

wine
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Z
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Appreciate the link, that's pretty fascinating although not quite on the level of secret starship fueling from the sun ;)
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Sorry Manuel, did not comment on your theory because I did not quite understand it
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Flare....
GET SAVED: Thread: Are you SAVED from DAMNATION?

"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26
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Nin,Hugh- In another thread someone was mentioning that we had 2 GRB.What does this mean?Is it a common occurance?What are the effects og GRB on earth
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Flare....
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C and still rising
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Sorry Manuel, did not comment on your theory because I did not quite understand it
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I do not understand your language, yet trying to translate ...
Someday people speaking in English should understand that the rest of the world there
cool2
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Flare....
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C and still rising
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Looks like a double-flare? [link to lasp.colorado.edu]
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"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26
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Glad to hear NICT is back up. Had me worried for a minute!

Does anyone have any idea what the anomaly on the sun is?
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A guy in the pinned thread posted this saying it was a filament cavity;...

Best guess I could find so far.


Well, you guys are not going to like this. I hate to be responsible for killing a good thread, but I just got a message on my YTube channel that this anomaly is what is called a, "filament cavity" or, "filament channel". One was observed for three days in 1997. Here is a link to the page describing the event:


[link to mithra.physics.montana.edu]



There is still some mystery involved; no one really knows how these are caused.

wine
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Z
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Appreciate the link, that's pretty fascinating although not quite on the level of secret starship fueling from the sun ;)
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Dear friend, I never mentioned a "ship" simply said "strange object" which is very different. The conclusions you must have them.cool2
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[link to www2.nict.go.jp]

crispy
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Yep, little bit
GET SAVED: Thread: Are you SAVED from DAMNATION?

"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26
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Do the V /km and the density p/cc match the pressure image? Seems to me like the V/km and density should be higher to produce white levels on the pressure pic.

Just me wondering.
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I have little understanding of all this to begin with, but I was wondering the same thing El Q. By the way, I hope you are well. :-)
I stayed up all night to see where the sun went. Then it dawned on me.
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Do the V /km and the density p/cc match the pressure image? Seems to me like the V/km and density should be higher to produce white levels on the pressure pic.

Just me wondering.
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Total confusion official science experts and amateurs in matters of the Sun
The NASA data have ceased, like all sites * copypaste * that feed on such information, pages that are simply repetitive of what NASA reported.
I held my own theory and so I think I'm a pioneer, just a keen observer, following their own, they call it.
Official sites have fallen, * pauses * have made the publication of unpublished solar data.
What is happening?
Is there something so important that it deserves to take time to analyze and publish here.
I think so.
I insist on injecting that object * something * in the Sun, and evidently he did or does to mitigate what at first was a huge activity, including;
What about magnetic storms were in progress?
All measuring instruments are not official absolutely no reference to these instruments apparently the sun is dead.
If you do not believe me see the graph in which everything seems to have returned a month ago;

Yes, the flow has dropped X-ray range C
Curious .. right?.
Where are the experts?
Do the wise guy?
Do not copy and paste to their own criteria?
Today I said, * will be the hours that deny or affirm my theory *.
Maybe tomorrow morning when I wake up a prompt return of high solar activity peaks ... in that case I shall correct my theory for a few hours, but ...
Can remain credible the words of the * pseudo-experts *?.
I leave to your judgment, just know that we are constantly lying, that when there are no words to explain something comes the silence and the silence of the experts is a bad sign.
I do not keep silent, yet even when there is silence and I am not going to regret, even though experts go tomorrow tear me apart if there is a CME, today lost his battle against a mere observer.
I do not seek applause, just pay your confidence.
Now is the time to talk and not tomorrow with news of Monday in hand ...Do not underestimate anyone.
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Is the Sphere looking object really there or is it just a cooler area of matter!?



In the above video it does almost look as though the CME travels around the apparent Sphere,I'm not sure what to make of this.

YT Link if the video wont embed: [link to www.youtube.com]

And it wont embed..plus I'm getting a 404 for the NASA link.
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Its look like a tornadic looped filament, probably creating a polarity vortex. I saw one of these posted years ago
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Do the V /km and the density p/cc match the pressure image? Seems to me like the V/km and density should be higher to produce white levels on the pressure pic.

Just me wondering.
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The whole view feels off, but doesn't seem to match. Maybe that clouds got its finger in the pot again
“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan
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I have little understanding of all this to begin with, but I was wondering the same thing El Q. By the way, I hope you are well. :-)
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I am great thanks. Hope you are the same.

Namaste.
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Do the V /km and the density p/cc match the pressure image? Seems to me like the V/km and density should be higher to produce white levels on the pressure pic.

Just me wondering.
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The whole view feels off, but doesn't seem to match. Maybe that clouds got its finger in the pot again
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Looks like a blast of dark plasma or Gamma;

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

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Nin,Hugh- In another thread someone was mentioning that we had 2 GRB.What does this mean?Is it a common occurance?What are the effects og GRB on earth
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GRBS are gamma ray bursts and usually are caused by antimatter anihilation,they are super high energy photons.GRBs can cause critical energy devastation if concentrated enough.Some believe grbs are actually newly released jet particles from our galactic black hole, i'm not sure what is worse.
“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan
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extra crispy---
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Do the V /km and the density p/cc match the pressure image? Seems to me like the V/km and density should be higher to produce white levels on the pressure pic.

Just me wondering.
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


The whole view feels off, but doesn't seem to match. Maybe that clouds got its finger in the pot again
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Looks like a blast of dark plasma or Gamma;

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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I hope its not gamma but that is being thrown around alot lately.I just posted that several physicists believe we are getting our first taste of jet particles from the neighborhood black hole,and as DEC. approaches we 're gonna see alot more as our allignment takes shape.Who really knows, i'm sure someone does but their not telling, SOOOOO many variables to look at these days, problem is its hard to figure what theory or theories are relevant
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extra crispy---
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Shields seem to be holding their own
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is it possible for the magnetosphere to blow away?

would any of this cause a pole shift?

How much trouble could we really be in if this goes down hill fast like at 12am or so?

What is the worst ever senario- say for tonight?

And thanks inadvance for answering my questions...
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IS THE SUN GIVING BIRTH TO A NEW PLANET

I am not a scientist, but I have a theory about a couple of different things when it comes to the origin of our universe. My ideas seems to be fairly original, yet simple. I believe that the Sun gave birth to all of the planets, one by one. That the sun spits out a large ball of plasma every 80 billion years or so resulting in a new planet. Each planet is an offspring of the sun on an outward journey away from it. A ball of molten plasma exploding out into space, spinning and slowly cooling until the outer crust forms. Basically the planets are a timeline of what happens to a ball of plasma shot out of the sun. Ball of plasma-cools-crusts over, spins from its source, expands and breaks apart, sweating oceans, exploding into a gas and then freezing as it reached the depths of space. Mercury is a baby and Pluto is an old man.

1. Mercury the newest planet, closest to the sun. Mercury has cooled on the outside but remains molten within, a planet to be. Gases and moisture trap within the cooling rock as it hurtles through frozen space at breakneck speed.

2. Venus which soon will be in the sweet spot rotation that Earth is in. Once there it will begin to expand and oceans will form as the Earth once expanded or spun apart from a sheer rock surface to what it is now. Venus is the next earth.

3. Earth is expanding, spinning and twisting apart to reveal the oceans, when the next planet is born, we will all die, perhaps this is what the Mayans knew of? 2012 or sometime soon a new planet will be born. Will it be born out of the sun? Yes. Will that event destroy all mankind? Yes, I'm afraid so. What may loook like a star will be born out of the sun, cooling into a new planet

4. Mars- Once had life much like Earth but was disintegrated when Mercury was born, soon to be a gas giant once it explodes in 6 billion years

5. Jupiter- Hard to believe, but Jupiter was once the size of earth, still a heat source remains within, but mostly this gas giant consists of gas

6. Saturn- Much like Jupiter, just shrinking and freezing as it moves away from the sun

7. Neptune- Allt he gas condenses and freezes and we have these two ice giants

8. uranus
MAYBE THIS WOULD EXPLAIN THE PLASMA BALL ATTATED TO THE BOTTOMLEFT OF THE SUN THIS MORNING

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 Quoting: LUCUS

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cool2My question is inside;
Is it to stop the activity or to increase it? ...
We will know within hours if the sun becomes violent or the opposite, I have a conclusion and that is, if you have not seen anything prior to the high activity, but now that the sun is about to unleash large flares lets see it today, then I think the intention of the object is * slow * activity, and boy, it seems that this is so that the level of protons is inexplicably flat ...
Maybe I can be to mitigate for any special event and then the sun will continue its cycle high, but if it lasts longer quiet hours ... so maybe my theory is correct, if not there been only a capricious personal view wrong .
Immediately my mind began to recede and I remembered a picture of the many that I keep on Sumerians, Assyrians and Babylonians ... I kept hechado in bed in this hellish hot afternoon where you can not be inside or out, rather than air conditioning , and left the rest, I searched and found a CD that I was disturbing image ... and of course ... to see it I can only understand many things.
A high god, sitting comfortably leading his creation, who holds a column can be a partner holding the sun hung on ropes and down ... other partners who seem "" "repair something that Sun" "" fairly. in the same place .... what we are seeing today in our sun ..

link image Una-Anu;

[link to www.crystalinks.com]

Coincidence?, Maybe someone of you might believe that I have too much imagination, or the Sumerian figure represents something else, according to scholars, but do not know ...
Every time something strange can be seen, the ones that are talking and are seen by everyone, always consider that reveal that we tie ropes and not by mere chance.
Manuel

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It's been several hours since I published my theory, and seems to be coming true. The strange object near the sun, the activity has changed, so we're all confused .. trying Official data report that the Sun is almost dead .. no activity.
Remind me, especially those who always write in this thread and are now missing, experts ... I'm not, I'm just an observer of all.
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no one will comment on these videos cause they dont know what to say!
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Re: SOLAR WATCH * 312 M & 25 X FLARES starting 3-7-2011 (Updated Daily)
is it possible for the magnetosphere to blow away?

would any of this cause a pole shift?

How much trouble could we really be in if this goes down hill fast like at 12am or so?

What is the worst ever senario- say for tonight?

And thanks inadvance for answering my questions...
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1) I don't really think it would be possible for the magnetosphere to blow away, the core would have to stop moving to stop generating the magnetic field. It is however getting weaker so over time it may start showing worse results from hits of similar strength (I.E. stronger geomagnetic storms)

2) I'm not qualified to speak to the effect of CMEs on the core already, I'm just some guy but I don't particularly think that it would cause a pole shift. There may be evidence we are approaching one already (just a magnetic not a tectonic) but its not exact science and the time frames are looooong

3) I don't expect this CME to be a disaster, but if things go downhill the trouble would mostly be with power systems at high latitudes in a moderate-severe event

4) Worst ever scenario? From the CME itself without any drastic changes in the earth would be a severe geomagnetic storm of the G5 class that rages long and powerfully enough to induce currents in the earth that burn out our entire electric grid. Everything we have is "Grounded" and the earth becoming charged from these events would destroy transformers (and have on a smaller/regional scale). In the carrington event in 1859 it was said telegraphs sparked and caused fires. Imagine that happening with every single structure being wired on all sides with current carrying copper wiring surrounded by flammable material.

That's all "Could be" though. I don't expect this CME to be out of the ordinary. Carrington was 2,400kms+. I think if we were to get a "Worst case scenario" solar storm you might hear more about it beforehand. Like a rapid succession of strong hits or strong hits traveling some ridiculous speed (2,500-3,000kms)

If a CME launched off at 4,000kms or an unusually long chain of strong CMEs lifted off directly at earth you would hear more "OH fuck" from people who pay attention to it. But who really knows? This stuff seems to have a lot more variables than anyone knows and it all depends on each CME independently and however the earths magnetosphere reacts and how it's polarity is tilted and its condition after a previous hit and the speed of a CME and the composition of it, the density of it and on and on.

The important thing is to realize that there is a danger, not think that it is crazy to think about it, and watch these events to learn more about it. Nobody I know knew anything about CMEs, yesterdays hit or tomorrows. So in some golden BB event when everyones house bursts into flames or the grid goes down it would pay to be the one guy in your town who wouldn't speed days/weeks waiting on the power company to give you back HBO and take steps to assess the situation from the moment it happened.


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