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SOLAR WATCH * 312 M & 25 X FLARES starting 3-7-2011 (Updated Daily)

 
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people are freaking out on the thread here.
Thread: BREAKING: Sphere Deflects Solar Eruption! May 25, 2012
they are screaming for astromut....
i think this is beyond him....
too many of these and the oddest thing they seem to be amost in the same place?????

this is the fisrt time i have seen it defect the plasma!
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sorry will not embed
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Yeah, i seen it. Interesting....funny how all these sightings are roughly in the same area.
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This looks loke a magnetic filament viewed from a weird angle. Deflects and interacts w/another filament/cornoal ejecta. Sometimes these lines last hours. What do you think?
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i would like Hugh and Nin's words on this!

i am of the mind this is natural. but it must have a charge.

in this video the plasma is deflected. that is for sure.

what if this sphere has a positive charge inside. so the positive charged plasma is repealed?
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spaceweather has a nice video of the filament..but they cropped out the sphere.

[link to spaceweather.com]

are we in for a fun week next week?

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NASA's Solar Dynamics Observatory recorded the movie during the late hours of May 25th. According to the 3D Sun app, another active region is approaching just behind this one and could boost solar activity even more when it emerges in the days ahead.
[link to spaceweather.com]
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Agreed Hugh : )

Check out this video of the Russian Micro-Satellite 'Chibis-m'.

[link to www.youtube.com]

It's mission is very interesting,I'll quote some of the information from the info-box below the video:

'01/25/2012 :: January 25 at 03.18.30 GMT small spacecraft "Chibis-M" separated from the cargo vehicle (THC), "Progress M-13M" and began its autonomous flight. According to the ballistic Service Mission Control Center microsatellite was launched with the following parameters: • ; minimum height above the surface of the Earth - 497.535 km; • the maximum height above the surface of the Earth - 513.607 km• period - 94.55 minutes; • inclination - 51.62 degrees'.

'"Chibis-M", intended to implement a new geophysical experiment aimed at a comprehensive study of physical processes in atmospheric lightning discharges. Microsatellite "Chibis-M" was created at the Institute of Space Research Institute in conjunction with other scientific organizations. Approximately one-third the mass of the satellite is a complex of scientific equipment (KPA), "The Storm". For the first time on a single satellite in a complex set of devices, "overlapping" range from gamma to radio waves, that the plan will allow researchers to "see" the largest possible number of processes that occur during lightning discharge. In the KPA "The Storm" includes x-ray detectors, gamma, ultraviolet and radio waves (30-50 MHz), generated by lightning discharge at an altitude of 13-20 km. In the KPA also includes tools for the study of plasma oscillations. In order to understand whether these are accompanied by flashes of lightning radiation, the KPA equipped with a digital camera. Detection of X-ray and gamma-radiation and ultraviolet radiation detector developed at the Research Institute of Nuclear Physics. DV Skobeltsyn MSU'.

You should read the rest about the mission yourselves [link to www.youtube.com]

It sounds pretty cool to me,suprised I had'nt heard of it.


The video is also quite cool,apparently they used a 'Tug' to help launch the Satellite,if I understood correctly : ?

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My account upgrade expired and I dont have the $$ to renew right now, so I lost the "personal pins" feature...and this thread. Took me awhile, but I found it =) Just responding so it will go to my "recent threads" list so I can continue to follow along. I don't post a whole lot, but I do read everything! I've learned a lot!
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My account upgrade expired and I dont have the $$ to renew right now, so I lost the "personal pins" feature...and this thread. Took me awhile, but I found it =) Just responding so it will go to my "recent threads" list so I can continue to follow along. I don't post a whole lot, but I do read everything! I've learned a lot!
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[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Why the spike in proton levels?
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[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Why the spike in proton levels?
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Ja-voule'..I was thinking the same thing [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] where has that come from,anyone!?

Preeceding the Proton Alert Onset we had a Type 2 Radio Emmission and then type 4 Radio Emmision,the latter usually indicates that there has been a particularly Violent Eruption on the Sun and often indicate a strong CME and/or Solar Radiation Storms.

Alerts Webpage: [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

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Re: SOLAR WATCH * 312 M & 25 X FLARES starting 3-7-2011 (Updated Daily)
Solar Warning:
Dark 42.3
[link to lasp.colorado.edu]
ACE RTSW SIS Protons
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
ACE RTSW EPAM Electrons
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]



Space Weather Message Code: ALTTP2
Serial Number: 795
Issue Time: 2012 May 26 2123 UTC

ALERT: Type II Radio Emission
Begin Time: 2012 May 26 2047 UTC
Estimated Velocity: 751 km/s
Description: Type II emissions occur in association with eruptions on the sun and typically indicate a coronal mass ejection is associated with a flare event.
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Space Weather Message Code: ALTTP4
Serial Number: 371
Issue Time: 2012 May 26 2212 UTC

ALERT: Type IV Radio Emission
Begin Time: 2012 May 26 2102 UTC
Description: Type IV emissions occur in association with major eruptions on the sun and are typically associated with strong coronal mass ejections and solar radiation storms.
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Space Weather Message Code: WARPX1
Serial Number: 356
Issue Time: 2012 May 26 2346 UTC

WARNING: Proton 10MeV Integral Flux above 10pfu expected
Valid From: 2012 May 26 2346 UTC
Valid To: 2012 May 27 1200 UTC
Warning Condition: Onset
Predicted NOAA Scale: S1 - Minor
Potential Impacts: Radio - Minor impacts on polar HF (high frequency) radio propagation resulting in fades at lower frequencies.
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

hf
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I wouldn't panic about the excess protons causing a coronal cavity, besides - I don't think an explanation from NASA would change much of anything, try meditation. At least NASA is better at keeping the feeds up than USGS
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WTF I went to the SDO website and the Sun's pics are not updating!!grumpy2 The last pics are from this time "2012-05-25 20:30:37. [link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

WTF is happening!!??tantrumwtf

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WTF I went to the SDO website and the Sun's pics are not updating!!grumpy2 The last pics are from this time "2012-05-25 20:30:37. [link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

WTF is happening!!??tantrumwtf
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Yeah, it pisses me off as well. They were playing game w/SDO all week to get ready for the big game, I mean big Venus transit day. For some reason, the composites are relatively up-to-date (and the HMI data seems unaffected). Lockheed has not updated their flare list in 7+ hours! I noticed too that 1492 has vanished from the flare list....more numbers games. Big holiday weekend and they find competent help. All the physicists are partying at South Beach all weekend (I hope they're all smited by the Sun).
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[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Why the spike in proton levels?
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good question... There wasn`t any significant flare or CME.

Could someone explain me what the difference of this chart :

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

and this one is?

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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Looks like a C 3 or 4 LDE produced a CME and juiced the GOES proton flux. I have the EVE x-ray image from the time of the flare, but I'm surprised by the proton and electron spikes. This active region may have more surprises in store.
:latest_eve:
SDO Composites of strong C-flare:
[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
:flare5/27:

A CME can be observed on the STEREO Behind Cor 2 movie:

[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

Almost forgot, the Udaipur Observatory recorded the whole thing in H-alpha.

[link to halpha.nso.edu]
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[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Why the spike in proton levels?
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good question... There wasn`t any significant flare or CME.

Could someone explain me what the difference of this chart :

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

and this one is?

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
 Quoting: Nacht im Walde


That's a good question, too, Nacht. The ACE electron detector is around one million miles closer to the Sun and the GOES electron detectors are in geosynchronus orbit around Earth and (usually) within the protection of the Magnetosphere. Basically ACE is recording the raw solar winds and GOES is recording what's leaking through the Earth's magnetic shield.

However, it's bit unusual to see a spike like the ACE electrons from a C3 flare from a region still not facing us directly. This could be a harbinger of big things to come from region "whatever they're calling it".
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[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Why the spike in proton levels?
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good question... There wasn`t any significant flare or CME.

Could someone explain me what the difference of this chart :

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

and this one is?

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
 Quoting: Nacht im Walde


That's a good question, too, Nacht. The ACE electron detector is around one million miles closer to the Sun and the GOES electron detectors are in geosynchronus orbit around Earth and (usually) within the protection of the Magnetosphere. Basically ACE is recording the raw solar winds and GOES is recording what's leaking through the Earth's magnetic shield.

However, it's bit unusual to see a spike like the ACE electrons from a C3 flare from a region still not facing us directly. This could be a harbinger of big things to come from region "whatever they're calling it".
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Agree 100%
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My account upgrade expired and I dont have the $$ to renew right now, so I lost the "personal pins" feature...and this thread. Took me awhile, but I found it =) Just responding so it will go to my "recent threads" list so I can continue to follow along. I don't post a whole lot, but I do read everything! I've learned a lot!
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Well create a favorites folder?
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Looks like a C 3 or 4 LDE produced a CME and juiced the GOES proton flux. I have the EVE x-ray image from the time of the flare, but I'm surprised by the proton and electron spikes. This active region may have more surprises in store.
:latest_eve:
SDO Composites of strong C-flare:
[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
:flare5/27:

A CME can be observed on the STEREO Behind Cor 2 movie:

[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

Almost forgot, the Udaipur Observatory recorded the whole thing in H-alpha.

[link to halpha.nso.edu]
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


That was a long C-Flare....roughly two hours long...
[link to www.tesis.lebedev.ru]
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Looks like a C 3 or 4 LDE produced a CME and juiced the GOES proton flux. I have the EVE x-ray image from the time of the flare, but I'm surprised by the proton and electron spikes. This active region may have more surprises in store.
:latest_eve:
SDO Composites of strong C-flare:
[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
:flare5/27:

A CME can be observed on the STEREO Behind Cor 2 movie:

[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

Almost forgot, the Udaipur Observatory recorded the whole thing in H-alpha.

[link to halpha.nso.edu]
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


That was a long C-Flare....roughly two hours long...
[link to www.tesis.lebedev.ru]
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Good morning hf

Is it from 1492, or a still to be named region ?
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[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Why the spike in proton levels?
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good question... There wasn`t any significant flare or CME.

Could someone explain me what the difference of this chart :

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

and this one is?

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
 Quoting: Nacht im Walde


That's a good question, too, Nacht. The ACE electron detector is around one million miles closer to the Sun and the GOES electron detectors are in geosynchronus orbit around Earth and (usually) within the protection of the Magnetosphere. Basically ACE is recording the raw solar winds and GOES is recording what's leaking through the Earth's magnetic shield.

However, it's bit unusual to see a spike like the ACE electrons from a C3 flare from a region still not facing us directly. This could be a harbinger of big things to come from region "whatever they're calling it".
hiding
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


very interesting isnt it-- [link to www.solarham.net]
bloody big spike, and seems to be still rising?
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thanks for the answer Hugh hf
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Morning TS66
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Morning TS66
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Morning Nerd :)

lmsal [link to www.lmsal.com] isn't cooperating again, but is looks like region S12E58 maybe the culprit [link to www.lmsal.com]

Maybe Lockheed has the weekend off ??
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My account upgrade expired and I dont have the $$ to renew right now, so I lost the "personal pins" feature...and this thread. Took me awhile, but I found it =) Just responding so it will go to my "recent threads" list so I can continue to follow along. I don't post a whole lot, but I do read everything! I've learned a lot!
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Save them in your favorite, that is there whether you have a paid account or not
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Thanks a bunch...+1 Karma to you =)
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Morning everybody, the Belgian Observatory gave an answer about the proton spike.

[link to www.sidc.be]
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Morning everybody, the Belgian Observatory gave an answer about the proton spike.

[link to www.sidc.be]
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Full halo ??? NICE !!! That would explain it .... Thank you hf
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That long C-Flare really calmed ol Sol down...
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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Electrical idea's on plasma cavitation -
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