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SOLAR WATCH * 312 M & 25 X FLARES starting 3-7-2011 (Updated Daily)

 
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I wouldn't panic about the excess protons causing a coronal cavity, besides - I don't think an explanation from NASA would change much of anything, try meditation. At least NASA is better at keeping the feeds up than USGS
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WTF I went to the SDO website and the Sun's pics are not updating!!grumpy2 The last pics are from this time "2012-05-25 20:30:37. [link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

WTF is happening!!??tantrumwtf

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WTF I went to the SDO website and the Sun's pics are not updating!!grumpy2 The last pics are from this time "2012-05-25 20:30:37. [link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

WTF is happening!!??tantrumwtf
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Yeah, it pisses me off as well. They were playing game w/SDO all week to get ready for the big game, I mean big Venus transit day. For some reason, the composites are relatively up-to-date (and the HMI data seems unaffected). Lockheed has not updated their flare list in 7+ hours! I noticed too that 1492 has vanished from the flare list....more numbers games. Big holiday weekend and they find competent help. All the physicists are partying at South Beach all weekend (I hope they're all smited by the Sun).
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[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Why the spike in proton levels?
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good question... There wasn`t any significant flare or CME.

Could someone explain me what the difference of this chart :

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

and this one is?

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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Looks like a C 3 or 4 LDE produced a CME and juiced the GOES proton flux. I have the EVE x-ray image from the time of the flare, but I'm surprised by the proton and electron spikes. This active region may have more surprises in store.
:latest_eve:
SDO Composites of strong C-flare:
[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
:flare5/27:

A CME can be observed on the STEREO Behind Cor 2 movie:

[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

Almost forgot, the Udaipur Observatory recorded the whole thing in H-alpha.

[link to halpha.nso.edu]
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[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Why the spike in proton levels?
 Quoting: whiteangel


good question... There wasn`t any significant flare or CME.

Could someone explain me what the difference of this chart :

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

and this one is?

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
 Quoting: Nacht im Walde


That's a good question, too, Nacht. The ACE electron detector is around one million miles closer to the Sun and the GOES electron detectors are in geosynchronus orbit around Earth and (usually) within the protection of the Magnetosphere. Basically ACE is recording the raw solar winds and GOES is recording what's leaking through the Earth's magnetic shield.

However, it's bit unusual to see a spike like the ACE electrons from a C3 flare from a region still not facing us directly. This could be a harbinger of big things to come from region "whatever they're calling it".
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[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Why the spike in proton levels?
 Quoting: whiteangel


good question... There wasn`t any significant flare or CME.

Could someone explain me what the difference of this chart :

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

and this one is?

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
 Quoting: Nacht im Walde


That's a good question, too, Nacht. The ACE electron detector is around one million miles closer to the Sun and the GOES electron detectors are in geosynchronus orbit around Earth and (usually) within the protection of the Magnetosphere. Basically ACE is recording the raw solar winds and GOES is recording what's leaking through the Earth's magnetic shield.

However, it's bit unusual to see a spike like the ACE electrons from a C3 flare from a region still not facing us directly. This could be a harbinger of big things to come from region "whatever they're calling it".
hiding
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


Agree 100%
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My account upgrade expired and I dont have the $$ to renew right now, so I lost the "personal pins" feature...and this thread. Took me awhile, but I found it =) Just responding so it will go to my "recent threads" list so I can continue to follow along. I don't post a whole lot, but I do read everything! I've learned a lot!
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Well create a favorites folder?
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Looks like a C 3 or 4 LDE produced a CME and juiced the GOES proton flux. I have the EVE x-ray image from the time of the flare, but I'm surprised by the proton and electron spikes. This active region may have more surprises in store.
:latest_eve:
SDO Composites of strong C-flare:
[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
:flare5/27:

A CME can be observed on the STEREO Behind Cor 2 movie:

[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

Almost forgot, the Udaipur Observatory recorded the whole thing in H-alpha.

[link to halpha.nso.edu]
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


That was a long C-Flare....roughly two hours long...
[link to www.tesis.lebedev.ru]
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Looks like a C 3 or 4 LDE produced a CME and juiced the GOES proton flux. I have the EVE x-ray image from the time of the flare, but I'm surprised by the proton and electron spikes. This active region may have more surprises in store.
:latest_eve:
SDO Composites of strong C-flare:
[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
:flare5/27:

A CME can be observed on the STEREO Behind Cor 2 movie:

[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

Almost forgot, the Udaipur Observatory recorded the whole thing in H-alpha.

[link to halpha.nso.edu]
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


That was a long C-Flare....roughly two hours long...
[link to www.tesis.lebedev.ru]
Peace
 Quoting: nerdrage88sasr


Good morning hf

Is it from 1492, or a still to be named region ?
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[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Why the spike in proton levels?
 Quoting: whiteangel


good question... There wasn`t any significant flare or CME.

Could someone explain me what the difference of this chart :

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

and this one is?

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
 Quoting: Nacht im Walde


That's a good question, too, Nacht. The ACE electron detector is around one million miles closer to the Sun and the GOES electron detectors are in geosynchronus orbit around Earth and (usually) within the protection of the Magnetosphere. Basically ACE is recording the raw solar winds and GOES is recording what's leaking through the Earth's magnetic shield.

However, it's bit unusual to see a spike like the ACE electrons from a C3 flare from a region still not facing us directly. This could be a harbinger of big things to come from region "whatever they're calling it".
hiding
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


very interesting isnt it-- [link to www.solarham.net]
bloody big spike, and seems to be still rising?
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thanks for the answer Hugh hf
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Morning TS66
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Morning TS66
 Quoting: nerdrage88sasr


Morning Nerd :)

lmsal [link to www.lmsal.com] isn't cooperating again, but is looks like region S12E58 maybe the culprit [link to www.lmsal.com]

Maybe Lockheed has the weekend off ??
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My account upgrade expired and I dont have the $$ to renew right now, so I lost the "personal pins" feature...and this thread. Took me awhile, but I found it =) Just responding so it will go to my "recent threads" list so I can continue to follow along. I don't post a whole lot, but I do read everything! I've learned a lot!
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Save them in your favorite, that is there whether you have a paid account or not
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Thanks a bunch...+1 Karma to you =)
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GO PATS!!
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Re: SOLAR WATCH * 312 M & 25 X FLARES starting 3-7-2011 (Updated Daily)
Morning everybody, the Belgian Observatory gave an answer about the proton spike.

[link to www.sidc.be]
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Morning everybody, the Belgian Observatory gave an answer about the proton spike.

[link to www.sidc.be]
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Full halo ??? NICE !!! That would explain it .... Thank you hf
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That long C-Flare really calmed ol Sol down...
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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Electrical idea's on plasma cavitation -
[link to www.thunderbolts.info]
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Electrical idea's on plasma cavitation -
[link to www.thunderbolts.info]
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this looks nice but so far every link in that thread is either corrupt or gone. site are missing or gone....
would be nice to see the research and data....more then just the thread.
but that sure seems to be heading in the right direction. 4 years ago!
a good video editor can make anyone say anything the editor wants.
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Morning everybody, the Belgian Observatory gave an answer about the proton spike.

[link to www.sidc.be]
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Thanks, AC, here's the NASA cygnet model for the CME which caused the proton spike:
[link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080]

There seems to be some confusion due to NOAA's retarded sunspot numbers. As I mentioned before, Solarsoft has changed all the flares attributed to 1492 to un-numbered coordinates.
[link to www.lmsal.com]

SIDC attributed the LDE flare to 1492, yet their own "flare-predictor" chart shows 1492 in another location.
[link to sidc.oma.be]

Solen Active Region Map:
[link to www.solen.info]

SOHO SS Map:
[link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]

Solar Monitor seems to have given up; no data and no flare list:
[link to www.solarmonitor.org]

I'm glad I'm not the only one confused.

Here's the chart for the C3.1 LDE flare from Solarsoft:
[link to www.lmsal.com]

I find it incredible if NOAA hasn't yet numbered a region we've been watching for 3 or 4 days now. Somehow our government bureaucracy can assign numbers to 100's of millions of people, yet they can't efficiently number 10 sunspots, hahaha.

Anyway, Solarsoft has posted the SDO close-up of the LDE flare in two different colors...enjoy:

[link to sdowww.lmsal.com]

[link to sdowww.lmsal.com]
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Re: SOLAR WATCH * 312 M & 25 X FLARES starting 3-7-2011 (Updated Daily)
CACTus details of Type II Halo CME:

[link to www.sidc.oma.be]

SEEDS CME movie:

[link to spaceweather.gmu.edu]

It appears Earth has dodged the bullet once again, however we may see a shock or a glancing ripple. Stay on your toes tho', the next eruption from this region may be Earth-directed.
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In the next 36-48 hours a huge coronal hole will be rotating around.

Is this the same one that looked like an iron before? Is this the same one that when looking at it on the left side would have been old 1429?
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Sorry about that, I'll have to dig around - see if I can find the links.
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I looked on Giburu, there is a bunch of citations under "Plasma Cavities" sp?,
[link to anonymous-666.bitnamiapp.com]

I am sure there is more info on Thunderbolts also.
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In the next 36-48 hours a huge coronal hole will be rotating around.

Is this the same one that looked like an iron before? Is this the same one that when looking at it on the left side would have been old 1429?
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Good question, and I don't know the answer.tounge
Where oh where has IWTB1776 gone? Still moving?- he would know this answer.
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It is 11492.very huge
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In the next 36-48 hours a huge coronal hole will be rotating around.

Is this the same one that looked like an iron before? Is this the same one that when looking at it on the left side would have been old 1429?
 Quoting: whiteangel


Good question, and I don't know the answer.tounge
Where oh where has IWTB1776 gone? Still moving?- he would know this answer.
 Quoting: SpiderJones


Here's a composite SDO/AIA image from March 9th showing 1429 near mid-disk and the large coronal hole on east limb. I'd say 1429 was about 60 degrees ahead of the CH. However, 1476 was on the left of the CH and should be back before the Venus transit next week.

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
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I think that guys from SWPC / NOAA are not doing a good job, according to solen.info webmaster commentaries wrote on AR11486.

[link to imageshack.us]

[link to www.solen.info]
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