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Anonymous Coward User ID: 6377684 Canada 05/30/2012 01:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “Right now, there’s an imbalance between the north and the south (solar) poles,” Jonathan Cirtain, NASA’s project scientist for a Japanese solar mission called Hinode, in a recent article on NASA’s website. “The north is already in transition, well ahead of the south pole, and we don’t understand why.” Quoting: Officials of the National Astronomical Observatory of Japan and the Riken research foundation said on April 19 that the activity of sunspots appeared to resemble a 70-year period in the 17th century in which London’s Thames froze over and cherry blossoms bloomed later than usual in Kyoto. Quoting: [link to ajw.asahi.com] Second largest newspaper in Japan. Sun tards are you following this at all? There's a dearth of coverage on this in the media. The hinode website says that their observations were that the south pole was not moving while the north pole had almost completed its flip which "would suggest a transition from the typical bipolar configuration" The timeline was a month as the north was already flipping, and that was a couple weeks ago. I haven't found anything on it since or really know what a quadripolar sun would actually do. I cant help but interject here! This group from Japan pulls this crap repeatedly. The poles on the Sun flip every cycle! Oops I put the wrong link in my post. It was supposed to be [link to ajw.asahi.com] tomasgod1, I respect you a lot and I know you are extremely knowledgeable on the subject. Make no mistake though, I am aware that every solar maximum is accompanied by a solar pole flip. The thing that is unusual this time, as documented by NASA and NAOJ, is that the solar north pole has already completed it's flip, while the south pole has barely begun to do anything. And now NAOJ is saying this may lead to a quadripole configuration, rather than the normal bipolar configuration. And they are saying the last time this happened, it coincided with a global decrease in temperatures of 0.5C. [link to dwqovw6qi0vie.cloudfront.net] Now I am not nearly knowledgeable enough of the sun to digest this information, but I would really like to hear what you guys have to say on it. Articles can be found on this event, by NASA and NAOJ etc, but they are not shouting to be found. This is being covered rather quietly. Again, I, and certainly these agencies, know that the solar poles flip every max. That is not at all what this is about. Something strange is going on this time. |
Hugh M Eye User ID: 15388345 United States 05/30/2012 02:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The quadrupole magnetic field isn't an uncommon phenomenon. I agree with Tom that the Japanese Hinode team is over-hyping this observation (maybe to get their minds off of Fukushima). Dr. Strong (I know, he's a goofball sometimes) did a decent video explaining the Sun's magnetic pole flip and the cause of the quadrupole. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] The Maunder Minimum was an extremely low period of solar activity with few or no sunspots for 70 years. Some have hypothesized this was the cause of the mini-Ice Age, though I believe this is still a subject of debate and continued study. This from Wired magazine- Sunspot Drop Won't Cause Global Cooling- News that solar activity might fizzle for a few decades has prompted talk of a new “Little Ice Age,” even a quick fix for global warming. But that’s just not going to happen. The cooling impact of the last prolonged solar lull “was probably only a couple tenths of a degree Celsius,” said climatologist Michael Mann of Penn State University. “It’s a tiny blip on the radar screen if you’re looking at the driving factors behind climate change.” The possibility of imminent solar dormancy was raised by reports from the ongoing American Astronomical Society meeting of fading sunspots and dips in the sun’s magnetic patterns. Those are considered portents of solar inactivity, suggesting that the next solar minimum — a natural downturn in activity — would be especially pronounced, perhaps lasting for decades. (snip) Rest of article here: [link to www.wired.com] More background on the Maunder Minimum: [link to www.universetoday.com] [link to science.jrank.org] Last Edited by Hugh M Eye on 05/30/2012 02:18 AM |
nerdrage88sasr User ID: 717919 Australia 05/30/2012 04:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | at 2:30.and 3:08.thats the shit that has stuck with me for years...damn song. Peace Last Edited by nerdrage88sasr on 05/30/2012 04:30 AM "Luck is what happens when preparation meets Oppurtunity"-- Seneca (5BC-65AD) |
El Quisqueyano User ID: 16767249 United States 05/30/2012 09:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Significant earthquake precursor signal detected on 05/30/12 at 1328utc/0928est. Possible 6+. Radio Direction Finder has signal coming in East of France from somewhere out in the Northern, Mid to Southern portions of the Pacific plate to Alaska, Canada and Chile. All who live anywhere in the vicinity of this line trajectory should be wary next 5 hours. Have escape plan ready and seek open terrain in the event of felt tremor. Secure most of your heavy objects and belongings around your home. Namaste, Hopefully I am wrong. Or it hits an unpopulated area. Japan is also a likely target. Be wary. |
psyoptics User ID: 14240707 United States 05/30/2012 01:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | at 2:30.and 3:08.thats the shit that has stuck with me for years...damn song. Peace yup! i can not get this image of mars out of my head. i do not think it was made by water! this was one hell of a electric bolt! [link to nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov] a good video editor can make anyone say anything the editor wants. |
Spittin'Cesium User ID: 14589973 Netherlands 05/30/2012 01:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nice post 88 : ) Check out the interplay between these two Farside Spots [link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov] Mixed poles. The thing that hath been, is That which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun. Ecclesiastes 9:1 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16439963 United States 05/30/2012 02:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6377684 ... [link to ajw.asahi.com] Second largest newspaper in Japan. Sun tards are you following this at all? There's a dearth of coverage on this in the media. The hinode website says that their observations were that the south pole was not moving while the north pole had almost completed its flip which "would suggest a transition from the typical bipolar configuration" The timeline was a month as the north was already flipping, and that was a couple weeks ago. I haven't found anything on it since or really know what a quadripolar sun would actually do. I cant help but interject here! This group from Japan pulls this crap repeatedly. The poles on the Sun flip every cycle! A new cycle begins with a reversed polarity sunspot. We had one a few months ago (way early ) NASA missed the fact, and projected a large geomagnetic storm from it but it did not happen because the CME hit + to - and did not make a good connection with our magetosphere. We did! Go back a few monthsandread ysef, as well as NiNs posts on the subject. The Northern latitude sunspots will reverse polarity and the southern latitude sunspots will as well after the polar reversal We are still a year away from solar max. Then we have several years of decline then the poles will be reversed after a long period of a spotless sun we will find a reversed polarity sunspot in the northern hemisphere of the Sun and cycle 25 will be undrway. OK! GEESH! Again, just to be very clear! The Sun reverses it magnetic poles every 11 years. The Earth does not, as often, yet it does also!. One day we will, as Earth has done it many, many, many times. We know this because the sea floor is striated with strips of magnetically aligned seabed N-S then S-N then N-S over and over as the sea floor expands from underneath the continent in the pacific ocean; as it cools it is permanently magnetized according to the polar alignment of the Earth. It changes every several hundered to million years, over, and over again. But the Sun does it every 11 yeqrs! ON Q! Maybe this is our year to flip with the Sun? think about it..haha! :freaks: I know very well the suns poles flip every 11 years. Just the NAOJ and the mission we are using to study the sun said "apparently a year early" as in pretty soon from now and only one of the two is flipping suggesting something different than the normal. The only way to know is to watch, but just because the phenomenon exists doesn't really settle the issue. |
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<<LOOK`n thru YOU>> User ID: 921787 United States 05/30/2012 03:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Damn Aliens...lol Last Edited by <<LOOK`n thru YOU>> on 05/30/2012 03:02 PM |
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MamaHasAwakened User ID: 5426767 United States 05/30/2012 05:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: <<LOOK`n thru YOU>> What ever happened to the guy that used that avatar? If you try to include his name in a post it disappears. I wonder? HI El Q, I believe this is him!!! Thread: UPDATED - - - - FINALLY! New Information from IBEX that continues to verify we are entering a highly magnetized/energetic region of the Fluff!!! |
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Vesper33 User ID: 5245441 United States 05/30/2012 08:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What ever happened to the guy that used that avatar? If you try to include his name in a post it disappears. I wonder? HI El Q, I believe this is him!!! Thread: UPDATED - - - - FINALLY! New Information from IBEX that continues to verify we are entering a highly magnetized/energetic region of the Fluff!!! I believe you are correct on that point. :) Perfer et Obdura;Dolor hic tibi proderit olim.Fortes Fortuna Iuvat! (Be Patient & Strong; someday this pain will be useful to you. Fortune favors the brave) |
MamaHasAwakened User ID: 5426767 United States 05/30/2012 08:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What ever happened to the guy that used that avatar? If you try to include his name in a post it disappears. I wonder? HI El Q, I believe this is him!!! Thread: UPDATED - - - - FINALLY! New Information from IBEX that continues to verify we are entering a highly magnetized/energetic region of the Fluff!!! I believe you are correct on that point. :) Hi Vesper! |
Hugh M Eye User ID: 15388345 United States 05/30/2012 09:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think we`re going to get some action soon.. 1476 is just about to rotate around the western limb! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16959381 I think we`re going to get some action soon.. 1476 is just about to rotate around the western limb! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16959381 This You can see it coming around the edge of the disc Since we've been expecting more activity in the south, it's been frustrating and perplexing to see '90 & '92 become so tame. However, our old friend "the Monster" is back; and though he's probably not as fearsome-looking after his trip across the far side, he still seems to be throwing his heft around. He's been sending up "smoke sigals" for days now and he has a little buddy in the south. This image from SDO about 2 hours ago-- :76returns: Flares or no flares, the magnetosphere will be rocking when this huge equatorial coronal hole blows its wind our way. It almost looks like a giant map of the US (after we annex B.C. & the Yukon, lol). :CONUS coronal ho: Besides the active regions and the coronal hole, we have the "wild-card" filament eruptions which seem to occur several times a day lately. Some of these eruptions aren't even noticeable on the x-ray flux, so we'll have to keep an eye out. As most of you know by now, my favorite filament-tracking tool is the GONG H-Alpha Network: [link to halpha.nso.edu] |
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Hugh M Eye User ID: 15388345 United States 05/30/2012 09:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yesterday i was looking at 'SDO/HMI' farside images and it looked like there were a lot of spots, yet i look again today and it's fairly quiet.. (i should've saved that image) it looks like they've cleaned the image up... I wouldn't put too much stock in those acoustic far-side imaging models. I've seen them look way-exaggerated and when we DID have a huge spot forming (eg.,1429 or 1476) they went unpredicted. Another hugely expensive theory that hasn't got the bugs worked out yet. It seems like an elegant theory, but in the real universe I haven't been impressed with the results. Take it w/ a grain of salt....IMO, not ready for prime-time, haha. More on the theory of Far-side Acoustic Imaging: [link to soi.stanford.edu] GONG far-side images: [link to gong.nso.edu] |
eclectic mind User ID: 12762865 Australia 05/30/2012 09:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yesterday i was looking at 'SDO/HMI' farside images and it looked like there were a lot of spots, yet i look again today and it's fairly quiet.. (i should've saved that image) it looks like they've cleaned the image up... I wouldn't put too much stock in those acoustic far-side imaging models. I've seen them look way-exaggerated and when we DID have a huge spot forming (eg.,1429 or 1476) they went unpredicted. Another hugely expensive theory that hasn't got the bugs worked out yet. It seems like an elegant theory, but in the real universe I haven't been impressed with the results. Take it w/ a grain of salt....IMO, not ready for prime-time, haha. More on the theory of Far-side Acoustic Imaging: [link to soi.stanford.edu] GONG far-side images: [link to gong.nso.edu] thanks for the links.. i will take it with a grain (or cup) of salt but the difference in the images is really huge... of course such images get adjusted after more observations/studies and they probably are not 100% accurate but again i should have saved the images to actually show what i mean... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16896657 United States 05/30/2012 10:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well we got a C1 from region S18E89 [link to www.lmsal.com] Looks like a new unnumbered spot coming around from the south ..... [link to www.solarham.net] |
shadasonic User ID: 15732022 United States 05/30/2012 10:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: El Quisqueyano What ever happened to the guy that used that avatar? If you try to include his name in a post it disappears. I wonder? HI El Q, I believe this is him!!! Thread: UPDATED - - - - FINALLY! New Information from IBEX that continues to verify we are entering a highly magnetized/energetic region of the Fluff!!! I believe you are correct on that point. :) Hi Vesper! Yeah, was in the middle of a very interesting discussion with him and a third fella who can't be listed either and poof, gone! “One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan |
Vesper33 User ID: 5245441 United States 05/30/2012 11:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: El Quisqueyano What ever happened to the guy that used that avatar? If you try to include his name in a post it disappears. I wonder? HI El Q, I believe this is him!!! Thread: UPDATED - - - - FINALLY! New Information from IBEX that continues to verify we are entering a highly magnetized/energetic region of the Fluff!!! I believe you are correct on that point. :) Hi Vesper! Hey Mama!!! I was out for a while and just saw your post. I hope you and yours are doing good!!! Perfer et Obdura;Dolor hic tibi proderit olim.Fortes Fortuna Iuvat! (Be Patient & Strong; someday this pain will be useful to you. Fortune favors the brave) |
Hugh M Eye User ID: 15388345 United States 05/31/2012 01:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well we got a C1 from region S18E89 Quoting: TS66 [link to www.lmsal.com] Looks like a new unnumbered spot coming around from the south ..... [link to www.solarham.net] Yes, my friend, that's the old monster's little buddy I was speaking of. {Oops, I ended a sentence with a preposition again, LOL.} I just saw a nice sunspot coming over the SE limb, that's Little Buddy. He's synergistically interacting with Old Monster...a Dynamic Duo. NOAA has yet to number anything,. but I bet we see 1493 &1494 before long. Flip a coin, that's what NOAA does. (the dart-board is reserved for hurricanes) I do make note of the fact that they've removed 1476 from the list of returning regions. I think they're retarded dolts and Boulder must be heavily-fluoridated. :Product: Solar Region Summary :Issued: 2012 May 31 0030 UTC # Prepared jointly by the U.S. Dept. of Commerce, NOAA, # Space Weather Prediction Center and the U.S. Air Force. # Joint USAF/NOAA Solar Region Summary SRS Number 152 Issued at 0030Z on 31 May 2012 Report compiled from data received at SWO on 30 May I. Regions with Sunspots. Locations Valid at 30/2400Z Nmbr Location Lo Area Z LL NN Mag Type 1486 N17W92 017 0090 Hsx 02 01 Alpha 1488 N12W59 344 0010 Bxo 03 02 Beta 1490 S12W22 307 0180 Dsi 10 22 Beta 1492 S13E03 281 0120 Eao 11 13 Beta IA. H-alpha Plages without Spots. Locations Valid at 30/2400Z May Nmbr Location Lo 1489 S30W58 344 II. Regions Due to Return 31 May to 02 Jun Nmbr Lat Lo 1477 S17 157 I'll update this post when my pics are ready....but in the meantime, I'll leave a link to the latest HMI Intensitygram: [link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2159872 United States 05/31/2012 02:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | X-Rays rising to c class levels as a sunspot that looks to be magnetically connected to the old monster 1479 This looks like it's about to get interesting [link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2159872 United States 05/31/2012 02:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2159872 X-Rays rising to c class levels as a sunspot that looks to be magnetically connected to the old monster 1479 rotates into view. This looks like it's about to get interesting [link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov] |
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Hugh M Eye User ID: 15388345 United States 05/31/2012 02:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2159872 X-Rays rising to c class levels as a sunspot that looks to be magnetically connected to the old monster 1479 rotates into view. This looks like it's about to get interesting [link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov] Well almost, I'm sure you meant 1476, otherwise I wholeheartedly agree. Old monster still has some bite left, and his Little Buddy in the south looks to be growing in strength. We've recently had a C1.5 and a C1.2 from 1493 (or 94, depending on the coin flip, haha). [link to www.lmsal.com] Oh, well my fabulous smilies aren't forthcoming yet so I'll leave you with a link to the latest SDO 171a (yellow) image where you can see the trans-equatorial magnetic connection is much stronger in the east than in the west. [link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2159872 United States 05/31/2012 02:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2159872 X-Rays rising to c class levels as a sunspot that looks to be magnetically connected to the old monster 1479 rotates into view. This looks like it's about to get interesting [link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov] Well almost, I'm sure you meant 1476, otherwise I wholeheartedly agree. Old monster still has some bite left, and his Little Buddy in the south looks to be growing in strength. We've recently had a C1.5 and a C1.2 from 1493 (or 94, depending on the coin flip, haha). [link to www.lmsal.com] Oh, well my fabulous smilies aren't forthcoming yet so I'll leave you with a link to the latest SDO 171a (yellow) image where you can see the trans-equatorial magnetic connection is much stronger in the east than in the west. [link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov] You are correct I meant 1476 Thx |