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SOLAR WATCH * 312 M & 25 X FLARES starting 3-7-2011 (Updated Daily)

 
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What do you make of this? PDF
Do you think there are correlations with recent anomalies?

[link to www.astrophys-space-sci-trans.net]

[snip]

Solar activity and the associated ground level enhancements of solar
cosmic rays during solar cycle 23

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I was actually thinking it has to do something with the water Ions or charge, just another guess though.
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Scalar weaponry showing charge
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Re: SOLAR WATCH * 312 M & 25 X FLARES starting 3-7-2011 (Updated Daily)
hey, with all the zombie stuff in Florida and elsewhere, i saw this this morning and got a bit nervous about it

huge red spot showing over Florida on the NOAA Radar
wtf is that? anyone see that before?
[link to radar.weather.gov]

here is the large map where you can see the red as well
[link to radar.weather.gov]
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WTF?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1295673


It's nothing.. seriously. I have seen that happen before and asked my husband who is a combat weather forecaster and he explained it to me. I just cannot remember what he said it was exactly. If I remember I will ask again and get back to you guys
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About the PDF, well if the earth had a plasma core it could act like a particle generator/accelerator, I think the current core theories were developed to fit existing knowledge at the time - we have a lot more knowledge now.
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The base line is slowly rising...due for another flare.

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

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Here is a clip on the LASCO C2 web site that just happened:
2012/06/11 09:48:05
[link to spaceweather.gmu.edu]
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Re: SOLAR WATCH * 312 M & 25 X FLARES starting 3-7-2011 (Updated Daily)
Space Weather Message Code: WARK04
Serial Number: 1944
Issue Time: 2012 Jun 11 1854 UTC

WARNING: Geomagnetic K-index of 4 expected
Valid From: 2012 Jun 11 1900 UTC
Valid To: 2012 Jun 11 2359 UTC
Warning Condition: Onset
Potential Impacts: Area of impact primarily poleward of 65 degrees Geomagnetic Latitude.
Induced Currents - Weak power grid fluctuations can occur.
Aurora - Aurora may be visible at high latitudes such as Canada and Alaska.
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

GOES electron flux:

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

GOES magnetometer:

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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I ordered one of the DVD's from "Thunderbolts" from the latest conference, it was about the new research on water, they found plasma cell structures even in the steam from a cup of coffee, very convincing and there is very much we still have not studied. Also much more in the DVD, these new discoveries have the effect of adding much to any chemical reaction with water as a component. Interesting, at least to me.
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Hellooo all : )

Erm..the Bz has been dipping since 13:00UTC and is now dipping hard [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Im' sure you all caught the Electron Frack after an extended period of the overall count being rather high [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Expecting charge in the ovation prime..well not this bad [link to www.ngdc.noaa.gov]

Ffs.
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and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
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hIYA ALLgrouphug;


im just step in and wanna say: im back online :)

nice to cya all in here


much love

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hIYA ALLgrouphug;


im just step in and wanna say: im back online :)

nice to cya all in here


much love

blwkss
 Quoting: IwantToBelieve76


Well look what the cat dragged in....missed ya brutha
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Good to see ya back
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hIYA ALLgrouphug;


im just step in and wanna say: im back online :)

nice to cya all in here


much love

blwkss
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Great to 'see' you again IWTB
I stayed up all night to see where the sun went. Then it dawned on me.
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hIYA ALLgrouphug;


im just step in and wanna say: im back online :)

nice to cya all in here


much love

blwkss
 Quoting: IwantToBelieve76


Awesome!
The thing that hath been,
is That which shall be;
and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
Ecclesiastes 9:1
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Have to watch that Ovation Prime data for a while to figure out what's normal, or read up. Pretty easy to get excited when you first look at something.
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Check it hook [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
The thing that hath been,
is That which shall be;
and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
Ecclesiastes 9:1
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I was watching this [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] and this [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] before commenting on the Ovation Prime.

Here [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

KP 5 Warning issued.
The thing that hath been,
is That which shall be;
and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
Ecclesiastes 9:1
Spittin'Cesium

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Geo-storming.

Space Weather Message Code: ALTK05
Serial Number: 690
Issue Time: 2012 Jun 11 2354 UTC

ALERT: Geomagnetic K-index of 5
Threshold Reached: 2012 Jun 11 2346 UTC
Synoptic Period: 2100-2400 UTC
Active Warning: Yes
NOAA Scale: G1 - Minor
Potential Impacts: Area of impact primarily poleward of 60 degrees Geomagnetic Latitude.
Induced Currents - Weak power grid fluctuations can occur.
Spacecraft - Minor impact on satellite operations possible.
Aurora - Aurora may be visible at high latitudes, i.e., northern tier of the U.S. such as northern Michigan and Maine.
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Hardcore [link to www.ngdc.noaa.gov]

Last Edited by Spittin'Cesium on 06/11/2012 08:58 PM
The thing that hath been,
is That which shall be;
and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
Ecclesiastes 9:1
Spittin'Cesium

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Take a look at the ACE data simulation here [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Bz.

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is That which shall be;
and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
Ecclesiastes 9:1
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hIYA ALLgrouphug;


im just step in and wanna say: im back online :)

nice to cya all in here


much love

blwkss
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So glad you are back!!! Everyone really missed you and Nin, just not the same without the whole gang!!! moshpit
Perfer et Obdura;Dolor hic tibi proderit olim.Fortes Fortuna Iuvat! (Be Patient & Strong; someday this pain will be useful to you. Fortune favors the brave)
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hIYA ALLgrouphug;


im just step in and wanna say: im back online :)

nice to cya all in here


much love

blwkss
 Quoting: IwantToBelieve76


Good it seems the suns been waiting for you!Very glad to see you back!
“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan
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Take a look at the ACE data simulation here [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Bz.

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 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


Damn, that speed is really getting it.

[link to www.solarham.net]
Perfer et Obdura;Dolor hic tibi proderit olim.Fortes Fortuna Iuvat! (Be Patient & Strong; someday this pain will be useful to you. Fortune favors the brave)
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Take a look at the ACE data simulation here [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Bz.

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 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


One other thing of note, sunspot numbers seem to be lower than even predicted. This gives even more precedence to Dr. Brooks belief in one, very large carrington like event, early 2013
“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan
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Take a look at the ACE data simulation here [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Bz.

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 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


One other thing of note, sunspot numbers seem to be lower than even predicted. This gives even more precedence to Dr. Brooks belief in one, very large carrington like event, early 2013
 Quoting: shadasonic


Winding like a Gyro.

Atmospheric *pop* in the offings!?

Last Edited by Spittin'Cesium on 06/11/2012 09:54 PM
The thing that hath been,
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and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
Ecclesiastes 9:1
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hIYA ALLgrouphug;


im just step in and wanna say: im back online :)

nice to cya all in here


much love

blwkss
 Quoting: IwantToBelieve76


So good to have you back! You were missed very much!!!!
hfsmile_kissgoodnewsred_heartgrouphug
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Anybody else see spirals and concentric rings? [link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]
The thing that hath been,
is That which shall be;
and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
Ecclesiastes 9:1
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Anybody else see spirals and concentric rings? [link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]
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Oh yeah
“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan
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hIYA ALLgrouphug;


im just step in and wanna say: im back online :)

nice to cya all in here


much love

blwkss
 Quoting: IwantToBelieve76


Welcome back champ!
Peace
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Re: SOLAR WATCH * 312 M & 25 X FLARES starting 3-7-2011 (Updated Daily)
Richard Altrock, manager of the Air Force’s coronal research program at NSO’s Sunspot, NM, facilities:
Use of Coronal Fe XIV Observations to Predict Solar-Cycle Activity

April 30, 2012

The onset of the "Rush to the Poles" of polar crown prominences and their associated coronal emission is a harbinger of solar maximum. Altrock (2003, Solar Phys. 216, 343) showed that the "Rush" was well-observed in the the Fe XIV corona at the Sacramento Peak site of the National Solar Observatory prior to the maxima of Cycles 21 to 23. He found that solar maximum in those cycles occurred when the center line of the Rush reached a critical latitude. These latitudes were 76°, 74° and 78°, respectively, for an average of 76° ± 2°.

Furthermore, in the previous three cycles solar maximum occurred when the number of Fe XIV emission regions per day > 0.19 (averaged over 365 days and both hemispheres) first reached latitudes 18°, 21° and 21°, for an average of 20° ± 1.7º (somewhat higher than the mean latitude of sunspot area at solar maximum, 14°). Applying the above conclusions to Cycle 24 is difficult due to the unusual nature of this cycle. Cycle 24 displays an intermittent "Rush" that is only definable in the northern hemisphere. In 2009 an initial slope of 4.6°/yr was found, compared to an average of 9.4 ± 1.7 °/yr in the previous cycles.

However, in 2010 the slope increased to 7.5°/yr (an increase did not occur in the previous three cycles). Extending that rate to 76° ± 2° indicates that the solar maximum smoothed sunspot number in the northern hemisphere ALREADY OCCURRED at 2011.6 ± 0.3. Unfortunately, the smoothed sunspot number uses 12-month running means, so the result may not be testable for several more months. Solar maximum may not be detectable in the southern hemisphere.

In 1999, persistent Fe XIV coronal emission known as the "Extended Solar Cycle" (ESC) appeared near 70° and
began migrating towards the equator at a rate 40% slower than the previous two solar cycles until a sudden surge to lower latitudes began. Currently the greatest number of emission regions is at 24°. This indicates that solar maximum is imminent. However, due to the irregular progression of this cycle, making a precise prediction is difficult.
 Quoting: [link to www.nso.edu]


"Sun Cycle 24" - A Major Decline in Solar Activity Ahead

June 15, 2011

Altrock... has observed a slowing of the “rush to the poles,” the rapid poleward march of magnetic activity observed in the Sun’s faint corona. Altrock used four decades of observations with NSO’s 40-cm (16-inch) coronagraphic telescope at Sunspot.

Altrock used a photometer to map iron heated to 2 million degrees C (3.6 million F). Stripped of half of its electrons, it is easily concentrated by magnetism rising from the Sun. In a well-known pattern, new solar activity emerges first at about 70 degrees latitude at the start of a cycle, then towards the equator as the cycle ages. At the same time, the new magnetic fields push remnants of the older cycle as far as 85 degrees poleward.

“In cycles 21 through 23, solar maximum occurred when this rush appeared at an average latitude of 76 degrees,” Altrock said. “Cycle 24 started out late and slow and may not be strong enough to create a rush to the poles, indicating we’ll see a very weak solar maximum in 2013, if at all. If the rush to the poles fails to complete, this creates a tremendous dilemma for the theorists, as it would mean that Cycle 23’s magnetic field will not completely disappear from the polar regions (the rush to the poles accomplishes this feat). No one knows what the Sun will do in that case.”

All three of these lines of research to point to the familiar sunspot cycle shutting down for a while.
“If we are right,” Dr. Frank Hill, associate director of the NSO’s Solar Synoptic Network concluded, “this could be the last solar maximum we’ll see for a few decades. That would affect everything from space exploration to Earth’s climate.


(The Daily Galaxy via National Solar Observatory)
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Interesting times...
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Anybody else see spirals and concentric rings? [link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


Oh yeah
 Quoting: shadasonic


: )
The thing that hath been,
is That which shall be;
and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
Ecclesiastes 9:1


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