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SOLAR WATCH * 312 M & 25 X FLARES starting 3-7-2011 (Updated Daily)

 
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I dont remember when but I've seen earlier the same development of events (activity) at GOES X-ray Flux 3 days, 5-min data. I think it was in march when Japan was hit by huge earthquake. That week was the same pattern of activity , started suddenly and than slowing down (long duration), than again sudden high event and than again long duration... At the end was 2 X events followed by earthquake.
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I dont remember when but I've seen earlier the same development of events (activity) at GOES X-ray Flux 3 days, 5-min data. I think it was in march when Japan was hit by huge earthquake. That week was the same pattern of activity , started suddenly and than slowing down (long duration), than again sudden high event and than again long duration... At the end was 2 X events followed by earthquake.
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I remember something like that ,too.
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I dont remember when but I've seen earlier the same development of events (activity) at GOES X-ray Flux 3 days, 5-min data. I think it was in march when Japan was hit by huge earthquake. That week was the same pattern of activity , started suddenly and than slowing down (long duration), than again sudden high event and than again long duration... At the end was 2 X events followed by earthquake.
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I remember something like that ,too.
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Nice that somebody remember this!Otherwise thought I had Déjà vu.
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I have a question:

AR1504 is now a BGD configuration. Isn't it true that an X-flare usually/mostly/always comes from a sunspot that is BGD?

A LDE with say an X5, that is earth directed will mean the likelihood of grid disruptions more than a regular X5 that just spikes and that is all, right??

Okay, so it was two questions? lol I have plenty more but hate to bog the thread down from real data too much.
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NASA Goddard/iSWA has 3 CME alerts listed for arrival on June 16. This does not include today's big CME. There was halo CME on the 12th and yesterday's M-flare CME. I don't know where the third came from, but today's would make at least 3 or 4 CMEs headed this way. There could be an interplanetary traffic jam! No matter what, the magnetosphere is looking at a very active weekend.

I'll list these in order of their issuance (not the arrival time)-

Event Issue Date: 2012-06-13 14:01:51.0 GMT
CME Arrival Time: 2012-06-16 19:52:03.0 GMT

Arival Time Confidence Level: ± 6 hours
Disturbance Duration: 12 hours
Disturbance Duration Confidence Level: ± 8 hours
Magnetopause Standoff Distance: 6.3 Re

Event Issue Date: 2012-06-14 12:26:01.0 GMT
CME Arrival Time: 2012-06-16 10:19:29.0 GMT

Arival Time Confidence Level: ± 6 hours
Disturbance Duration: 10 hours
Disturbance Duration Confidence Level: ± 8 hours
Magnetopause Standoff Distance: 5.1 Re

Event Issue Date: 2012-06-14 14:05:15.0 GMT
CME Arrival Time: 2012-06-16 10:16:42.0 GMT

Arival Time Confidence Level: ± 6 hours
Disturbance Duration: 8 hours
Disturbance Duration Confidence Level: ± 8 hours
Magnetopause Standoff Distance: 4.9 Re

I'm going to start using a CME Scorecard, LOL.
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Might I suggest you just keep updating this post as the new CME data comes in until 1504 rotates away?? Might help us all to see it in just one place.
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According to Spaceweather.com, today's CME is traveling at 1360 km/s and forecast to reach Earth at 14:00UT on June 16th. This one and the other "glancing blows" are all due to arrive within a 12 hour period! This new one looks more like a punch-in-the-face than a glancing blow, LOL.

ANOTHER CME: On June 14th, for the second day in a row, sunspot AR1504 erupted and hurled a CME toward Earth. The fast-moving (1360 km/s) cloud is expected to hit our planet's magnetic field on June 16th at 14:00 UT
[link to www.spaceweather.com]

New NASA Cone Model:

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Today's HMI image of 1504-
:1504-6/14:

Dual and opposing rotation of North and South poles of 1504:
:closeup-magneto:
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Got a little action [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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Got a little action [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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Yep! and again it goes up very sharp. If I'm right this one will be higher than previous, the end will be slow long duration.
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The C 4 flare was from AR1505 which is intimately connected to 1504. Stay alert as this may trigger another big flare from 1504 in response.

Big Bear H-alpha image of C 4 flare:

[link to halpha.nso.edu]
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I have a question:

AR1504 is now a BGD configuration. Isn't it true that an X-flare usually/mostly/always comes from a sunspot that is BGD?

A LDE with say an X5, that is earth directed will mean the likelihood of grid disruptions more than a regular X5 that just spikes and that is all, right??

Okay, so it was two questions? lol I have plenty more but hate to bog the thread down from real data too much.
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I think you are correct on the first assertion, though I admit I don't pay too much attention those designations. IWTB 76 has a better grasp on the finer points.

On the second question, the X-rays aren't what threatens the power grids, it's the CME plasma and how it interacts with the Earth's magnetic field. If you're assuming a large CME from an LDE X-flare you may be correct. It's actually much more complicated and greatly depends on the density, speed and polarity of the incoming plasma. We had an X5 w/ a strong CME in March and the grid was unaffected. However, a CME need not be from an X-flare to potentially cause power grid failures.
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NOAA Watch issued for June 17-

Space Weather Message Code: WATA20
Serial Number: 494
Issue Time: 2012 Jun 14 2105 UTC

WATCH: Geomagnetic A-index of 20 or greater predicted
NOAA Scale: Periods reaching the G1 (Minor) Level Likely
Valid for UTC Day: 2012 Jun 17

Potential Impacts: Area of impact primarily poleward of 60 degrees Geomagnetic Latitude.
Induced Currents - Weak power grid fluctuations can occur.
Spacecraft - Minor impact on satellite operations possible.
Aurora - Aurora may be visible at high latitudes, i.e., northern tier of the U.S. such as northern Michigan and Maine.

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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NASA Goddard/iSWA has 3 CME alerts listed for arrival on June 16. This does not include today's big CME. There was halo CME on the 12th and yesterday's M-flare CME. I don't know where the third came from, but today's would make at least 3 or 4 CMEs headed this way. There could be an interplanetary traffic jam! No matter what, the magnetosphere is looking at a very active weekend.

I'll list these in order of their issuance (not the arrival time)-

Event Issue Date: 2012-06-13 14:01:51.0 GMT
CME Arrival Time: 2012-06-16 19:52:03.0 GMT

Arival Time Confidence Level: ± 6 hours
Disturbance Duration: 12 hours
Disturbance Duration Confidence Level: ± 8 hours
Magnetopause Standoff Distance: 6.3 Re

Event Issue Date: 2012-06-14 12:26:01.0 GMT
CME Arrival Time: 2012-06-16 10:19:29.0 GMT

Arival Time Confidence Level: ± 6 hours
Disturbance Duration: 10 hours
Disturbance Duration Confidence Level: ± 8 hours
Magnetopause Standoff Distance: 5.1 Re

Event Issue Date: 2012-06-14 14:05:15.0 GMT
CME Arrival Time: 2012-06-16 10:16:42.0 GMT

Arival Time Confidence Level: ± 6 hours
Disturbance Duration: 8 hours
Disturbance Duration Confidence Level: ± 8 hours
Magnetopause Standoff Distance: 4.9 Re

I'm going to start using a CME Scorecard, LOL.
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noticed this before when there are a few cme's popping off and of varying intensity.
from those listed here, the first one is predicted to arrive 2012-06-16 at 19:52 GMT

the second one issued is predicted to arrive 2012-06-16 10:29 GMT, i.e. BEFORE the first one.

how can this be?
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I have a question:

AR1504 is now a BGD configuration. Isn't it true that an X-flare usually/mostly/always comes from a sunspot that is BGD?

A LDE with say an X5, that is earth directed will mean the likelihood of grid disruptions more than a regular X5 that just spikes and that is all, right??

Okay, so it was two questions? lol I have plenty more but hate to bog the thread down from real data too much.
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I think you are correct on the first assertion, though I admit I don't pay too much attention those designations. IWTB 76 has a better grasp on the finer points.

On the second question, the X-rays aren't what threatens the power grids, it's the CME plasma and how it interacts with the Earth's magnetic field. If you're assuming a large CME from an LDE X-flare you may be correct. It's actually much more complicated and greatly depends on the density, speed and polarity of the incoming plasma. We had an X5 w/ a strong CME in March and the grid was unaffected. However, a CME need not be from an X-flare to potentially cause power grid failures.
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Yes assuming that a larger X-flare means larger CME. Most focus on the flare which isn't the worry unless it is X100, lol.

Still trying to learn how to tell when it is a large enough CME to hurt the grid and just can't get my head wrapped around all the scientific mumbo-jumbo and need things in plain English
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1504 X flare threat
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I have a question:

AR1504 is now a BGD configuration. Isn't it true that an X-flare usually/mostly/always comes from a sunspot that is BGD?

A LDE with say an X5, that is earth directed will mean the likelihood of grid disruptions more than a regular X5 that just spikes and that is all, right??

Okay, so it was two questions? lol I have plenty more but hate to bog the thread down from real data too much.
 Quoting: whiteangel


I think you are correct on the first assertion, though I admit I don't pay too much attention those designations. IWTB 76 has a better grasp on the finer points.

On the second question, the X-rays aren't what threatens the power grids, it's the CME plasma and how it interacts with the Earth's magnetic field. If you're assuming a large CME from an LDE X-flare you may be correct. It's actually much more complicated and greatly depends on the density, speed and polarity of the incoming plasma. We had an X5 w/ a strong CME in March and the grid was unaffected. However, a CME need not be from an X-flare to potentially cause power grid failures.
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


Yes assuming that a larger X-flare means larger CME. Most focus on the flare which isn't the worry unless it is X100, lol.

Still trying to learn how to tell when it is a large enough CME to hurt the grid and just can't get my head wrapped around all the scientific mumbo-jumbo and need things in plain English
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I think it's got something to do with density, the denser the CME the more plasma it carries with it. This is what I am thinking they monitor, the density of the CME. Another thing they take into consideration is the duration of the actual CME itself. The longer the CME duration is the longer the exposure. Same concept as with Radiation. All of this at extreme levels can effect our planet and all living creatures on it and can have dire consequences.
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This looked very interesting, from a pinned thread. Makes you wonder!
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I have a question:

AR1504 is now a BGD configuration. Isn't it true that an X-flare usually/mostly/always comes from a sunspot that is BGD?

A LDE with say an X5, that is earth directed will mean the likelihood of grid disruptions more than a regular X5 that just spikes and that is all, right??

Okay, so it was two questions? lol I have plenty more but hate to bog the thread down from real data too much.
 Quoting: whiteangel


I think you are correct on the first assertion, though I admit I don't pay too much attention those designations. IWTB 76 has a better grasp on the finer points.

On the second question, the X-rays aren't what threatens the power grids, it's the CME plasma and how it interacts with the Earth's magnetic field. If you're assuming a large CME from an LDE X-flare you may be correct. It's actually much more complicated and greatly depends on the density, speed and polarity of the incoming plasma. We had an X5 w/ a strong CME in March and the grid was unaffected. However, a CME need not be from an X-flare to potentially cause power grid failures.
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


Yes assuming that a larger X-flare means larger CME. Most focus on the flare which isn't the worry unless it is X100, lol.

Still trying to learn how to tell when it is a large enough CME to hurt the grid and just can't get my head wrapped around all the scientific mumbo-jumbo and need things in plain English
 Quoting: whiteangel


I think it's got something to do with density, the denser the CME the more plasma it carries with it. This is what I am thinking they monitor, the density of the CME. Another thing they take into consideration is the duration of the actual CME itself. The longer the CME duration is the longer the exposure. Same concept as with Radiation. All of this at extreme levels can effect our planet and all living creatures on it and can have dire consequences.
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Thank you El Q and Hugh! Appreciate both of you and all the valuable data you share!!!!
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The quadrupole magnetic field isn't an uncommon phenomenon. I agree with Tom that the Japanese Hinode team is over-hyping this observation (maybe to get their minds off of Fukushima). Dr. Strong (I know, he's a goofball sometimes) did a decent video explaining the Sun's magnetic pole flip and the cause of the quadrupole.

[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye

I'm confused by this video. He describes quadrupole as being 4 temporary bands (+/-/+/-) going down latitudinally while the sun sorts itself out during the transition.

However what Hinode means by quadrupole, is two + polarities on the north and south pole, balanced out by two - polarities on the equator. (Diagram) [link to www.setyoufreenews.com] (+/-/-/+). Also, it isn't to be temporary or transitional, but stay that way the whole upcoming cycle, after which the south pole may or may not return to scheduled programming and flip.

Then Strong goes on to say this situation has occurred the last 3 cycles. But he's talking about the North and South poles having the same polarity, again, temporarily or transitionally, en route to completing the flip and then having the usual opposing polarities for the duration of the cycle. Hinode is describing North and South poles of the same polarity for at least one entire cycle.

Of those 3 previous cycles he refers to, each time unanimous polarity occurred the unflipped pole was weakening and visibly en route to joining it's colleague in the reboot process. This time, as of yet there is no weakening in the unflipped pole, no evidence of an attempt to flip. That is what is new and unusual, the prospect of only one pole resetting this solar max. Do you really think the scientists at NASA and Hinode missed such obvious details as are being pointed out in this video? Does that make any sense at all?

Not only is this video very strange, Strong then goes on to release another video May 22 ( [link to www.youtube.com] wherein he brags that nothing has happened with the poles. Except if he simply checked the polar field strength ( [link to wso.stanford.edu] he would see that effective May 22, ironically, the North polar field shut down and rebooted in the opposite polarity. AKA, it flipped. At this point this guy seems pretty silly in my eyes.

I'm surprised there's been almost zero discussion of this here. The North just flipped and the South isn't budging at all, it's extremely interesting.
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M and M two CME's to hit the earth at once on the 16th wow.
[link to www.spaceweather.com] nice graphic here. Double whammy.
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X_ray Flux going up again currently @ C1.7
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M and M two CME's to hit the earth at once on the 16th wow.
[link to www.spaceweather.com] nice graphic here. Double whammy.
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SOL TAINOalone
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The quadrupole magnetic field isn't an uncommon phenomenon. I agree with Tom that the Japanese Hinode team is over-hyping this observation (maybe to get their minds off of Fukushima). Dr. Strong (I know, he's a goofball sometimes) did a decent video explaining the Sun's magnetic pole flip and the cause of the quadrupole.

[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye

I'm confused by this video. He describes quadrupole as being 4 temporary bands (+/-/+/-) going down latitudinally while the sun sorts itself out during the transition.

However what Hinode means by quadrupole, is two + polarities on the north and south pole, balanced out by two - polarities on the equator. (Diagram) [link to www.setyoufreenews.com] (+/-/-/+). Also, it isn't to be temporary or transitional, but stay that way the whole upcoming cycle, after which the south pole may or may not return to scheduled programming and flip.

Then Strong goes on to say this situation has occurred the last 3 cycles. But he's talking about the North and South poles having the same polarity, again, temporarily or transitionally, en route to completing the flip and then having the usual opposing polarities for the duration of the cycle. Hinode is describing North and South poles of the same polarity for at least one entire cycle.

Of those 3 previous cycles he refers to, each time unanimous polarity occurred the unflipped pole was weakening and visibly en route to joining it's colleague in the reboot process. This time, as of yet there is no weakening in the unflipped pole, no evidence of an attempt to flip. That is what is new and unusual, the prospect of only one pole resetting this solar max. Do you really think the scientists at NASA and Hinode missed such obvious details as are being pointed out in this video? Does that make any sense at all?

Not only is this video very strange, Strong then goes on to release another video May 22 ( [link to www.youtube.com] wherein he brags that nothing has happened with the poles. Except if he simply checked the polar field strength ( [link to wso.stanford.edu] he would see that effective May 22, ironically, the North polar field shut down and rebooted in the opposite polarity. AKA, it flipped. At this point this guy seems pretty silly in my eyes.

I'm surprised there's been almost zero discussion of this here. The North just flipped and the South isn't budging at all, it's extremely interesting.
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The Sun is the Sun, and it's interior still has many mysteries- it's weird that the North magnetic pole could change w/o the south changing also. I get a pain between my ears trying to wrap my head around that one!tounge
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More GLE's at McMurdo?
[link to neutronm.bartol.udel.edu]
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M and M two CME's to hit the earth at once on the 16th wow.
[link to www.spaceweather.com] nice graphic here. Double whammy.
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SOL TAINOalone
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Love that one
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Over time if you watch the sun after the CME's I have noticed what looks like the sun staying connected to the CME through the Parker spiral, a brightening on the COR pics in either the Northern or Southern poles, may be something if you can figure out what I am saying ha ha
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The quadrupole magnetic field isn't an uncommon phenomenon. I agree with Tom that the Japanese Hinode team is over-hyping this observation (maybe to get their minds off of Fukushima). Dr. Strong (I know, he's a goofball sometimes) did a decent video explaining the Sun's magnetic pole flip and the cause of the quadrupole.

[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye

I'm confused by this video. He describes quadrupole as being 4 temporary bands (+/-/+/-) going down latitudinally while the sun sorts itself out during the transition.

However what Hinode means by quadrupole, is two + polarities on the north and south pole, balanced out by two - polarities on the equator. (Diagram) [link to www.setyoufreenews.com] (+/-/-/+). Also, it isn't to be temporary or transitional, but stay that way the whole upcoming cycle, after which the south pole may or may not return to scheduled programming and flip.

Then Strong goes on to say this situation has occurred the last 3 cycles. But he's talking about the North and South poles having the same polarity, again, temporarily or transitionally, en route to completing the flip and then having the usual opposing polarities for the duration of the cycle. Hinode is describing North and South poles of the same polarity for at least one entire cycle.

Of those 3 previous cycles he refers to, each time unanimous polarity occurred the unflipped pole was weakening and visibly en route to joining it's colleague in the reboot process. This time, as of yet there is no weakening in the unflipped pole, no evidence of an attempt to flip. That is what is new and unusual, the prospect of only one pole resetting this solar max. Do you really think the scientists at NASA and Hinode missed such obvious details as are being pointed out in this video? Does that make any sense at all?

Not only is this video very strange, Strong then goes on to release another video May 22 ( [link to www.youtube.com] wherein he brags that nothing has happened with the poles. Except if he simply checked the polar field strength ( [link to wso.stanford.edu] , he would see that effective May 22, ironically, the North polar field shut down and rebooted in the opposite polarity. AKA, it flipped. At this point this guy seems pretty silly in my eyes.

I'm surprised there's been almost zero discussion of this here. The North just flipped and the South isn't budging at all, it's extremely interesting.
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The Sun is the Sun, and it's interior still has many mysteries- it's weird that the North magnetic pole could change w/o the south changing also. I get a pain between my ears trying to wrap my head around that one!tounge
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Fixed broken stanford link, sorry about that.
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Beginning of another LDE?
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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Beginning of another LDE?
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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i actually don't think we ever ended the first one.
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Re: SOLAR WATCH * 312 M & 25 X FLARES starting 3-7-2011 (Updated Daily)
Beginning of another LDE?
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 Quoting: nerdrage88sasr


i actually don't think we ever ended the first one.
 Quoting: Gabriel


i can run with that....if you look at the 5 min...did we really end the first one?
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Re: SOLAR WATCH * 312 M & 25 X FLARES starting 3-7-2011 (Updated Daily)
Beginning of another LDE?
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
Peace
 Quoting: nerdrage88sasr


i actually don't think we ever ended the first one.
 Quoting: Gabriel


i can run with that....if you look at the 5 min...did we really end the first one?
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
Peacegoodnews
 Quoting: nerdrage88sasr


NOAA does what it can (???)

That's why they get paid the big bucks ...

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