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SOLAR WATCH * 312 M & 25 X FLARES starting 3-7-2011 (Updated Daily)

 
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Here we I am, my grass is gone, yesterday I walked barefooted and all I was able to feel was this horrible crunchy sound of burned grass, rose bush buds burn, never stood a chance, my corn, tomatoes, onions, and other vegetables plants fried to a crisp although I tried to save them by watering 3 times a day, as early as 5:00Am before the sun comes up, still could not save my garden, it is pitiful.
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[link to spaceweather.com]

Not sure if anyone has seen this view, looks amazingshocked
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[link to spaceweather.com]

Not sure if anyone has seen this view, looks amazingshocked
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Nice! That is amazing! Thanks for sharing!
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[link to spaceweather.com]

Not sure if anyone has seen this view, looks amazingshocked
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[link to spaceweather.com]

Not sure if anyone has seen this view, looks amazingshocked
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really nice- private telescope?
oh, I gotta go people- nite nite all!abduct
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Kp index= 5 now. Will it get worse tonight?
 Quoting: SpiderJones


Not sure about worse but continuing,yes [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Magnetoquake.
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


Here is NASA's magnetopause simulation for the past 24 hours.

[link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080]

It's kinda like watchin' waves rippling around a boat. I think we're getting the shock waves of the 20-30 CMEs which should've been Earthbound, but miraculously were not. The ACE data shows that the density has remained low; so we're not seeing much mass from the mass ejections, just the shocks. It's like standing near a highway a feeling the gusts whenever a box truck or a bus whizzes by.
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Here's what 1520 looked like on the last rotation (on June 15th)- in it's former incarnation as 1504-
1504-6/15
:closeup-magneto:

And today (July 10th)-(note: it's too big to fit on one smilie, so I broke it in half and zoomed out to fit the magnetogram image))-
1520 7/10
:1520Mag:

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[link to spaceweather.com]

Not sure if anyone has seen this view, looks amazingshocked
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Wow, looks like a solar drone fly-over image. I hope they tweak the GLP Observatory to get us some comparable shots. Awesome.

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We got a climber;

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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sideways that thing!
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NOAA has given a new number, AR1521, to the region sprouting up on the eastern edge of 1520. Also, note the enormous size of 1520-1320 millionths! HUGE!

Joint USAF/NOAA Solar Region Summary
SRS Number 192 Issued at 0030Z on 10 Jul 2012
Report compiled from data received at SWO on 09 Jul
I. Regions with Sunspots. Locations Valid at 09/2400Z
Nmbr Location Lo Area Z LL NN Mag Type
1515 S15W89 206 0320 Dao 10 07 Beta-Gamma
1518 N10W00 116 0010 Bxo 02 04 Beta
1519 S16E13 104 0100 Cso 09 08 Beta
1520 S17E33 084 1320 Fkc 19 57 Beta-Gamma-Delta
1521 S22E21 096 0110 Dao 07 11 Beta


List of NOAA Summaries, etc.:

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

I also noticed that 1520's main spot is cleaving into three! A similar cleaving happened to 1515 just before it went absolutely postal.
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Is cleaving like breaking up?
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Is cleaving like breaking up?
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I'd say more like cell division. In AR1515 the lead spot split into two and the lead spot sped away and the other half grew quickly. This happened around the same time as the number of M-flares multiplied drastically. I don't know for sure what 1520 will do, but I just note what I see. This could be a harbinger of some serious activity coming soon.
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NOAA has given a new number, AR1521, to the region sprouting up on the eastern edge of 1520. Also, note the enormous size of 1520-1320 millionths! HUGE!

Joint USAF/NOAA Solar Region Summary
SRS Number 192 Issued at 0030Z on 10 Jul 2012
Report compiled from data received at SWO on 09 Jul
I. Regions with Sunspots. Locations Valid at 09/2400Z
Nmbr Location Lo Area Z LL NN Mag Type
1515 S15W89 206 0320 Dao 10 07 Beta-Gamma
1518 N10W00 116 0010 Bxo 02 04 Beta
1519 S16E13 104 0100 Cso 09 08 Beta
1520 S17E33 084 1320 Fkc 19 57 Beta-Gamma-Delta
1521 S22E21 096 0110 Dao 07 11 Beta


List of NOAA Summaries, etc.:

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

I also noticed that 1520's main spot is cleaving into three! A similar cleaving happened to 1515 just before it went absolutely postal.
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


I predict that by July 12, the size of 1520 will grow to 2000-1800 millionths. How about you guys? How big will this Muthaf**ka grow to?
Thread: Just conducted a new research on annual big quakes that happened since 2010. August 20-September 2 2014???

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"For 2 consecutive years, lots of rumors concerning big earthquakes and pole shifts caused by a celestial object to occur around the date of August 17 has been circulating on the internet from sources like John Moore and Mike Harris (Nibiru Aug 17 2012) and Pattie Brassard (Mag 15 quake Aug 17 2013).....Is there in any way a chance that the real date could actually be this year? .....August 17-27 2014????" ----Solar Guardian
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NOAA has given a new number, AR1521, to the region sprouting up on the eastern edge of 1520. Also, note the enormous size of 1520-1320 millionths! HUGE!

Joint USAF/NOAA Solar Region Summary
SRS Number 192 Issued at 0030Z on 10 Jul 2012
Report compiled from data received at SWO on 09 Jul
I. Regions with Sunspots. Locations Valid at 09/2400Z
Nmbr Location Lo Area Z LL NN Mag Type
1515 S15W89 206 0320 Dao 10 07 Beta-Gamma
1518 N10W00 116 0010 Bxo 02 04 Beta
1519 S16E13 104 0100 Cso 09 08 Beta
1520 S17E33 084 1320 Fkc 19 57 Beta-Gamma-Delta
1521 S22E21 096 0110 Dao 07 11 Beta


List of NOAA Summaries, etc.:

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

I also noticed that 1520's main spot is cleaving into three! A similar cleaving happened to 1515 just before it went absolutely postal.
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


I predict that by July 12, the size of 1520 will grow to 2000-1800 millionths. How about you guys? How big will this Muthaf**ka grow to?
 Quoting: Solar Guardian


so...youve down graded to solar activity predictions now..instead of alien invasions?
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C 7.0
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This mutha still doesn't had the explosiveness of the previous behemoth. That one had M-class flares like as if it were C-class flares but this one has yet to had such an activity. I hope by the next 24 hours it erupts with an X-40, Earth-directed!devil6
Thread: Just conducted a new research on annual big quakes that happened since 2010. August 20-September 2 2014???

Thread: Russian scientist predicts "Massive Earthquake" to hit Japan by end of 2014!!!

Thread: Japanese scientist predicts another major earthquake in Japan by 2017 -Japanese news!!!

"For 2 consecutive years, lots of rumors concerning big earthquakes and pole shifts caused by a celestial object to occur around the date of August 17 has been circulating on the internet from sources like John Moore and Mike Harris (Nibiru Aug 17 2012) and Pattie Brassard (Mag 15 quake Aug 17 2013).....Is there in any way a chance that the real date could actually be this year? .....August 17-27 2014????" ----Solar Guardian
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Is cleaving like breaking up?
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I'd say more like cell division. In AR1515 the lead spot split into two and the lead spot sped away and the other half grew quickly. This happened around the same time as the number of M-flares multiplied drastically. I don't know for sure what 1520 will do, but I just note what I see. This could be a harbinger of some serious activity coming soon.
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 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


I'm sorry, whiteangel, perhaps "cleaving" is a confusing word to use; it means both "splitting apart" AND "sticking together" (Doh! Stupid English language!).
[link to www.thefreedictionary.com]

Maybe a better term would be "calving" as in Antarctic ice sheets splitting. Sorry for the confusion, haha.
[link to www.thefreedictionary.com]

Thanks for asking....you made me look it up.
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sideways that thing!
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OMG! A U.F.D.!!!

unidentified flying dildo....at your house....right now!

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Is cleaving like breaking up?
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I'd say more like cell division. In AR1515 the lead spot split into two and the lead spot sped away and the other half grew quickly. This happened around the same time as the number of M-flares multiplied drastically. I don't know for sure what 1520 will do, but I just note what I see. This could be a harbinger of some serious activity coming soon.
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 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


I'm sorry, whiteangel, perhaps "cleaving" is a confusing word to use; it means both "splitting apart" AND "sticking together" (Doh! Stupid English language!).
[link to www.thefreedictionary.com]

Maybe a better term would be "calving" as in Antarctic ice sheets splitting. Sorry for the confusion, haha.
[link to www.thefreedictionary.com]

Thanks for asking....you made me look it up.
hf
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Hugh, do you think this AR 1520 can grow to a size of 2000-1800 millionths? As for me I hope it grows to 3000+millionths so that we could get record-breaking X-class flares.abombexplosion
Thread: Just conducted a new research on annual big quakes that happened since 2010. August 20-September 2 2014???

Thread: Russian scientist predicts "Massive Earthquake" to hit Japan by end of 2014!!!

Thread: Japanese scientist predicts another major earthquake in Japan by 2017 -Japanese news!!!

"For 2 consecutive years, lots of rumors concerning big earthquakes and pole shifts caused by a celestial object to occur around the date of August 17 has been circulating on the internet from sources like John Moore and Mike Harris (Nibiru Aug 17 2012) and Pattie Brassard (Mag 15 quake Aug 17 2013).....Is there in any way a chance that the real date could actually be this year? .....August 17-27 2014????" ----Solar Guardian
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It's taken all I got to keep my fruit trees from dying this year, and forget about fruit, the deep freeze after an early bud took care of that.

My veggies are growing in dust that can no longer even absorb water no matter how much I mulch. Flowers are blooming a month or two ahead of schedule (ones that are still alive & standing that is),the leaves are already turning and dropping, and my tadpoles finally got their legs just before our pond finally turned toxic and dried up ......


It's all very sad to watch.
 Quoting: TS66


TS, same happened to my cherry trees, will they come back next year?
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It would be even more marvelous if the sunspot 1520 grows to cover 20% of the area of the Sun now facing Earth. The economy is down, and people are depressed because no relief is in sight, so let's just end all of this crap with Sun Doomscheming
Thread: Just conducted a new research on annual big quakes that happened since 2010. August 20-September 2 2014???

Thread: Russian scientist predicts "Massive Earthquake" to hit Japan by end of 2014!!!

Thread: Japanese scientist predicts another major earthquake in Japan by 2017 -Japanese news!!!

"For 2 consecutive years, lots of rumors concerning big earthquakes and pole shifts caused by a celestial object to occur around the date of August 17 has been circulating on the internet from sources like John Moore and Mike Harris (Nibiru Aug 17 2012) and Pattie Brassard (Mag 15 quake Aug 17 2013).....Is there in any way a chance that the real date could actually be this year? .....August 17-27 2014????" ----Solar Guardian
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since you are here posting probably a good time to say SORRY

waiting..........

I hope I'm not being outa line. hf
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Not at all, Finley, you done good! Whenever solar activity goes wild, it seems we're swamped with trolls posting off-topic gobbledygook and promoting their whacko YouTube conspiracy vids. We'll have keep our eye on the ball and not let this thread get derailed too much.

I don't wish to be mean to anyone, but I've noticed attempts to troll this thread for two days now. When I went back to the "March Madness" pages, when we had X-flares, big M's, and the strongest magnetic storm of the year; I noticed the same thing happened then. We were all busy and excited over solar events and we got hammered by crackpot UFO videos and other silly nonsense. Sorry to rant, but it's a very irksome annoyance. rant

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NOAA has given a new number, AR1521, to the region sprouting up on the eastern edge of 1520. Also, note the enormous size of 1520-1320 millionths! HUGE!

Joint USAF/NOAA Solar Region Summary
SRS Number 192 Issued at 0030Z on 10 Jul 2012
Report compiled from data received at SWO on 09 Jul
I. Regions with Sunspots. Locations Valid at 09/2400Z
Nmbr Location Lo Area Z LL NN Mag Type
1515 S15W89 206 0320 Dao 10 07 Beta-Gamma
1518 N10W00 116 0010 Bxo 02 04 Beta
1519 S16E13 104 0100 Cso 09 08 Beta
1520 S17E33 084 1320 Fkc 19 57 Beta-Gamma-Delta
1521 S22E21 096 0110 Dao 07 11 Beta


List of NOAA Summaries, etc.:

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

I also noticed that 1520's main spot is cleaving into three! A similar cleaving happened to 1515 just before it went absolutely postal.
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


Indeedly!

1520 or ISZO as I'll call it,1515 being ISIS,looks to be very promising [link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

She did cleave into three [link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov] !

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This mutha still doesn't had the explosiveness of the previous behemoth. That one had M-class flares like as if it were C-class flares but this one has yet to had such an activity. I hope by the next 24 hours it erupts with an X-40, Earth-directed!devil6
 Quoting: Solar Guardian


Patience, SG, patience, the fact that this region is still growing tells us there's a great deal of magnetic turbulence in the southern hemisphere now. I think we'll see at least one strong X-flare before Gigantor leaves the stage. This beast will be facing Earth for the next week or so.
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since you are here posting probably a good time to say SORRY

waiting..........

I hope I'm not being outa line. hf
 Quoting: finley


Not at all, Finley, you done good! Whenever solar activity goes wild, it seems we're swamped with trolls posting off-topic gobbledygook and promoting their whacko YouTube conspiracy vids. We'll have keep our eye on the ball and not let this thread get derailed too much.

I don't wish to be mean to anyone, but I've noticed attempts to troll this thread for two days now. When I went back to the "March Madness" pages, when we had X-flares, big M's, and the strongest magnetic storm of the year; I noticed the same thing happened then. We were all busy and excited over solar events and we got hammered by crackpot UFO videos and other silly nonsense. Sorry to rant, but it's a very irksome annoyance. rant

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 Quoting: Hugh M Eye

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11347696


Who's trolling I'm merely asking people's opinions here on whether they think this thing will grow bigger to 2000+millionths in size or not. Also would anyone provide any history for sunspots with sizes exceeding 2000-3000 millionths thanks. hfhf
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"For 2 consecutive years, lots of rumors concerning big earthquakes and pole shifts caused by a celestial object to occur around the date of August 17 has been circulating on the internet from sources like John Moore and Mike Harris (Nibiru Aug 17 2012) and Pattie Brassard (Mag 15 quake Aug 17 2013).....Is there in any way a chance that the real date could actually be this year? .....August 17-27 2014????" ----Solar Guardian
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Look at the Plasma from 1515 heading South [link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov] <--- Wonder what will happen when it meets that whirling Prominence!?
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well look at you breaking your own rules posting fake UFOs
you should probably punch your self in the neck for doing so

every day ill be here till you make a public apology


since you are here posting probably a good time to say SORRY

waiting..........

I hope I'm not being outa line. hf
 Quoting: finley


Not at all, Finley, you done good! Whenever solar activity goes wild, it seems we're swamped with trolls posting off-topic gobbledygook and promoting their whacko YouTube conspiracy vids. We'll have keep our eye on the ball and not let this thread get derailed too much.

I don't wish to be mean to anyone, but I've noticed attempts to troll this thread for two days now. When I went back to the "March Madness" pages, when we had X-flares, big M's, and the strongest magnetic storm of the year; I noticed the same thing happened then. We were all busy and excited over solar events and we got hammered by crackpot UFO videos and other silly nonsense. Sorry to rant, but it's a very irksome annoyance. rant

smile_kissapplause
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11347696


sideways that thing!
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OMG! A U.F.D.!!!

unidentified flying dildo....at your house....right now!

:ufodildo:
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Here we I am, my grass is gone, yesterday I walked barefooted and all I was able to feel was this horrible crunchy sound of burned grass, rose bush buds burn, never stood a chance, my corn, tomatoes, onions, and other vegetables plants fried to a crisp although I tried to save them by watering 3 times a day, as early as 5:00Am before the sun comes up, still could not save my garden, it is pitiful.
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Wow, everyone has had the same problem, all over the country! Sorry.
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2159872


This mutha still doesn't had the explosiveness of the previous behemoth. That one had M-class flares like as if it were C-class flares but this one has yet to had such an activity. I hope by the next 24 hours it erupts with an X-40, Earth-directed!devil6
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Careful [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] What you wish for : )
The thing that hath been,
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and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
Ecclesiastes 9:1
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Everyone is suffering miserably. Plunging economy, bad weather, failing crops. Clearly we are in the midst of some great change. However the changes so far are not of a positive manner. People are starving. As for me, I prefer to die being cooked by Sun Doom than a long painful death due to starvation because of the lack of jobs and doomsday economy. So let's give this new 1520 a cheer on so that it grows bigger and bigger and shower us with a huge relief in terms of a record-breaking X-60 flare, directed at all of us.hf
Thread: Just conducted a new research on annual big quakes that happened since 2010. August 20-September 2 2014???

Thread: Russian scientist predicts "Massive Earthquake" to hit Japan by end of 2014!!!

Thread: Japanese scientist predicts another major earthquake in Japan by 2017 -Japanese news!!!

"For 2 consecutive years, lots of rumors concerning big earthquakes and pole shifts caused by a celestial object to occur around the date of August 17 has been circulating on the internet from sources like John Moore and Mike Harris (Nibiru Aug 17 2012) and Pattie Brassard (Mag 15 quake Aug 17 2013).....Is there in any way a chance that the real date could actually be this year? .....August 17-27 2014????" ----Solar Guardian

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