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SOLAR WATCH * 312 M & 25 X FLARES starting 3-7-2011 (Updated Daily)

 
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random is the word for that music. Interesting.Thanks for the post.
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Question for someone:

If a BIG X popped off and the CME hit while we (North America) were experiencing night...would it still impact us?
 Quoting: Wash


the direct hit would be on the sun facing side of earth
BUT it would hit all of earth
no one side is missed while abother is hit
 Quoting: NiNzrez


CME's usually last for several hours during which time earth just keeps on spinning and soaking up the damage.

My question is: after the big X-flare pops - say X75-100 - wouldn't the protons that slam into the earth right away also cause 'grid' problems?

Most of us on here are watching the solar flares, one because we love it and two so we know when the "big-event" is happening with a little advanced knowledge.

So, what do we need to know for sure?
Is it only the CME that will take the grid down or will it happen right away???
I have asked this same question many times in many places and end up with very confusing answers. I am sure I am not the only one that would like to know this in average person understanding. Knowing it is the CME is one thing, wondering if it could be the protons that hit earth right away, it different and yes, a heck of a lot more worrisome.
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 Quoting: whiteangel


Anyone know on the above question highlighted in red??
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Question for someone:

If a BIG X popped off and the CME hit while we (North America) were experiencing night...would it still impact us?
 Quoting: Wash


the direct hit would be on the sun facing side of earth
BUT it would hit all of earth
no one side is missed while abother is hit
 Quoting: NiNzrez


CME's usually last for several hours during which time earth just keeps on spinning and soaking up the damage.

My question is: after the big X-flare pops - say X75-100 - wouldn't the protons that slam into the earth right away also cause 'grid' problems?

Most of us on here are watching the solar flares, one because we love it and two so we know when the "big-event" is happening with a little advanced knowledge.

So, what do we need to know for sure?
Is it only the CME that will take the grid down or will it happen right away???
I have asked this same question many times in many places and end up with very confusing answers. I am sure I am not the only one that would like to know this in average person understanding. Knowing it is the CME is one thing, wondering if it could be the protons that hit earth right away, it different and yes, a heck of a lot more worrisome.
flower
 Quoting: whiteangel


Anyone know on the above question highlighted in red??
 Quoting: whiteangel


Yes its the CME. One extremely large CME could take it down, or a series of hits opening up the magnetosphere. The plasmatic energy stretches the magnetosphere and its the snapback that delivers the blow,but a well placed series of events could trigger a possible collapse as gound electrons surge in on an open 'crack' in the shield. One other problem is if we were going through a pole shift our magnetosphere could weaken to the point of massive energy saturation as our geodynamo slows.Many variables for doom!

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the direct hit would be on the sun facing side of earth
BUT it would hit all of earth
no one side is missed while abother is hit
 Quoting: NiNzrez


CME's usually last for several hours during which time earth just keeps on spinning and soaking up the damage.

My question is: after the big X-flare pops - say X75-100 - wouldn't the protons that slam into the earth right away also cause 'grid' problems?

Most of us on here are watching the solar flares, one because we love it and two so we know when the "big-event" is happening with a little advanced knowledge.

So, what do we need to know for sure?
Is it only the CME that will take the grid down or will it happen right away???
I have asked this same question many times in many places and end up with very confusing answers. I am sure I am not the only one that would like to know this in average person understanding. Knowing it is the CME is one thing, wondering if it could be the protons that hit earth right away, it different and yes, a heck of a lot more worrisome.
flower
 Quoting: whiteangel


Anyone know on the above question highlighted in red??
 Quoting: whiteangel


Yes its the CME. One extremely large CME could take it down, or a series of hits opening up the magnetosphere. The plasmatic energy stretches the magnetosphere and its the snapback that delivers the blow,but a well placed series of events could trigger a possible collapse as gound electrons surge in on an open 'crack' in the shield. One other problem is if we were going through a pole shift our magnetosphere could weaken to the point of massive energy saturation as our geodynamo slows.Many variables for doom!
 Quoting: shadasonic


Also many variables in the speed of the CME. They can take hours to reach earth, or days.
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the direct hit would be on the sun facing side of earth
BUT it would hit all of earth
no one side is missed while abother is hit
 Quoting: NiNzrez


CME's usually last for several hours during which time earth just keeps on spinning and soaking up the damage.

My question is: after the big X-flare pops - say X75-100 - wouldn't the protons that slam into the earth right away also cause 'grid' problems?

Most of us on here are watching the solar flares, one because we love it and two so we know when the "big-event" is happening with a little advanced knowledge.

So, what do we need to know for sure?
Is it only the CME that will take the grid down or will it happen right away???
I have asked this same question many times in many places and end up with very confusing answers. I am sure I am not the only one that would like to know this in average person understanding. Knowing it is the CME is one thing, wondering if it could be the protons that hit earth right away, it different and yes, a heck of a lot more worrisome.
flower
 Quoting: whiteangel


Anyone know on the above question highlighted in red??
 Quoting: whiteangel


Yes its the CME. One extremely large CME could take it down, or a series of hits opening up the magnetosphere. The plasmatic energy stretches the magnetosphere and its the snapback that delivers the blow,but a well placed series of events could trigger a possible collapse as gound electrons surge in on an open 'crack' in the shield. One other problem is if we were going through a pole shift our magnetosphere could weaken to the point of massive energy saturation as our geodynamo slows.Many variables for doom!
 Quoting: shadasonic


Thank you heart

I keep reading different info on it, with some saying that the first energy from the flare that reaches earth right away is also dangerous. The large CME or serious of would be a grid down, yes, but I just wondered if right after the flare or the flare itself that travels very quickly, would hurt earth or humans?

Edit: forgot to ask, you did mean magnetic pole shift or physical?

Last Edited by WhiteAngel on 07/11/2012 11:29 PM
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Was looking at this [link to www.solarham.net] and comparing 1520 with 1515. 1515 just looks denser, more powerful.
I can see how it might be possible for a man to look down upon the earth and be an atheist, but I cannot conceive how a man could look up into the heavens and say there is no God.

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I'm postponing any X-flares to occur after 10 UTC time today.. good night. Nothing is going to happen in the next 10 hours or so. (this is to test anti glp-effect)
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I have to agree.

The activity will flat line for the next 10 hours. ;)
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I will contribute to the anti-glp effect!ohyeah I predict the graph will flatline until 1520 rotates away from Earth-facing side of the Sun!scheming
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[link to www.youtube.com]
Mentions a possible X-flare event caused by an alignment.
I can see how it might be possible for a man to look down upon the earth and be an atheist, but I cannot conceive how a man could look up into the heavens and say there is no God.

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All sensors just went blank....?
[link to www.solarham.net]

And this is just our simple regular sun... Beautiful and amazing..no words to describe looking at this picture.
[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

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painfully boring night...

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X-Ray still going down, this appears good but feels bad...

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X-Ray still going down, this appears good but feels bad...

hidinghiding
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I know just what you mean!
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X-Ray still going down, this appears good but feels bad...

hidinghiding
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I know just what you mean!
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Agreed
hiding
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X-Ray still going down, this appears good but feels bad...

hidinghiding
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I know just what you mean!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1540313


Agreed
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Will the shit hit the fan soon...... endendabomb
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BREAKING NEWS:
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NASA DON'T GET WHY SUN GOING MONO-POLAR
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[link to www.nasa.gov]

Approximately every 11 years the magnetic field on the sun reverses completely the north magnetic pole switches to south, and vice versa. Its as if a bar magnet slowly lost its magnetic field and regained it in the opposite direction, so the positive side becomes the negative side. But, of course, the sun is not a simple bar magnet and the causes of the switch, not to mention the complex tracery of moving magnetic fields throughout the eleven-year cycle, are not easy to map out.

While the cycle unfolds with seeming regularity every 11 years, in two upcoming papers scientists highlight just how asymmetrical this process actually is. Currently the polarity at the north of the sun appears to have decreased close to zero that is, it seems to be well into its polar flip from magnetic north to south -- but the polarity at the south is only just beginning to decrease.

"Right now, there's an imbalance between the north and the south poles," says Jonathan Cirtain, a space scientist at NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center in Huntsville, Ala., who is also NASA's project scientist for a Japanese solar mission called Hinode. "The north is already in transition, well ahead of the south pole, and we don't understand why."

[link to www.nasa.gov]
 Quoting: Poline 1349287


Some member was shilling an op on another thread big time about this saying that this is all perfectly normal and nothing unusual is happening.

Nice find :)
 Quoting: WeAreOne

+1
and by the way NiN was right
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X ray flux rising
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
Some very intense activity seems to be happening within 1520 based on SDO images
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wtf

[link to helios.izmiran.rssi.ru]

Huge neutron spike but from what?
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wtf

[link to helios.izmiran.rssi.ru]

Huge neutron spike but from what?
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Good question!
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wtf

[link to helios.izmiran.rssi.ru]

Huge neutron spike but from what?
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Good question!
 Quoting: WeAreOne


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okay the flaring can now begin.. couple M's first would be neat.
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[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Steady dive. What's with this spot?
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good morning, solar watch! need...coffee..we sucked at trivia last night :( and the sun is dead (again). Needs to snap off some serious flares today or I may die of boredom
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Good Day Sunmates!!!

Well NiN,... I sure do appreciate you keeping Page 1 updated. Sweet baybee!!

I mean,...there are like 60 pages in yer thread since my last post. uhoh




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Good Morning crewhf one day free...:)



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Good morning Z, IWTB so glad to see you all hf

We shall see what today brings .....

Looks like Bradford still has us at a 60% for M, and 63% for X for 1520

[link to spaceweather.inf.brad.ac.uk]

And 1521 was "upgraded" to a Beta Gamma
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I don't care what the popular opinion is the Northern polarity jump has done something to the energy release.Electric force is 10x40 that of gravity. This gives atomic atoms their unique characteristics. There is a mutual repulsion between + charged nucleus and the - charged electrons, but then theres the issue of a mutual attraction to gravity. Now think about this, if you alter the ratio between them by a small amount, you can greatly change the characteristics of atomic(solar) energy. Raising the efficiency of transformation means allowing a stronger glue between the particles and their distribution release. In theory with the suns polarity issue the stronger the SS the bigger the chance it holds its energy back because of this'glue'. Probably way off, but i've been dwelling on this for awhile

This is definitely open for discussion as my postulation may or may not hold water.headbang

Its either this or ... aliens. lol
 Quoting: shadasonic


anyonehf, be nice!
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I don't care what the popular opinion is the Northern polarity jump has done something to the energy release.Electric force is 10x40 that of gravity. This gives atomic atoms their unique characteristics. There is a mutual repulsion between + charged nucleus and the - charged electrons, but then theres the issue of a mutual attraction to gravity. Now think about this, if you alter the ratio between them by a small amount, you can greatly change the characteristics of atomic(solar) energy. Raising the efficiency of transformation means allowing a stronger glue between the particles and their distribution release. In theory with the suns polarity issue the stronger the SS the bigger the chance it holds its energy back because of this'glue'. Probably way off, but i've been dwelling on this for awhile

This is definitely open for discussion as my postulation may or may not hold water.headbang

Its either this or ... aliens. lol
 Quoting: shadasonic


anyonehf, be nice!
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it's aliens, lol
:tie dye:
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I don't care what the popular opinion is the Northern polarity jump has done something to the energy release.Electric force is 10x40 that of gravity. This gives atomic atoms their unique characteristics. There is a mutual repulsion between + charged nucleus and the - charged electrons, but then theres the issue of a mutual attraction to gravity. Now think about this, if you alter the ratio between them by a small amount, you can greatly change the characteristics of atomic(solar) energy. Raising the efficiency of transformation means allowing a stronger glue between the particles and their distribution release. In theory with the suns polarity issue the stronger the SS the bigger the chance it holds its energy back because of this'glue'. Probably way off, but i've been dwelling on this for awhile

This is definitely open for discussion as my postulation may or may not hold water.headbang

Its either this or ... aliens. lol
 Quoting: shadasonic


anyonehf, be nice!
 Quoting: shadasonic


it's aliens, lol
:tie dye:
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I knew it!!!!!
One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If weve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. Were no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. Its simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that weve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back. Carl Sagan
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I don't care what the popular opinion is the Northern polarity jump has done something to the energy release.Electric force is 10x40 that of gravity. This gives atomic atoms their unique characteristics. There is a mutual repulsion between + charged nucleus and the - charged electrons, but then theres the issue of a mutual attraction to gravity. Now think about this, if you alter the ratio between them by a small amount, you can greatly change the characteristics of atomic(solar) energy. Raising the efficiency of transformation means allowing a stronger glue between the particles and their distribution release. In theory with the suns polarity issue the stronger the SS the bigger the chance it holds its energy back because of this'glue'. Probably way off, but i've been dwelling on this for awhile

This is definitely open for discussion as my postulation may or may not hold water.headbang

Its either this or ... aliens. lol
 Quoting: shadasonic


anyonehf, be nice!
 Quoting: shadasonic


it's aliens, lol
:tie dye:
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I need to make one of those..that is cool!
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