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SOLAR WATCH * 312 M & 25 X FLARES starting 3-7-2011 (Updated Daily)

 
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Hiya just a nice pic from sun....1520 in all its glory..

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I've noticed that the last several large flares we've had have been all over MSM, this one I've heard nothing? My workers phones have been down all afternoon- AT&T,it rings once then says good bye, they aren't sure what the problem is(AT&T that is)!

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screenshot of C3 on helioviewer @ 03:03UT

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'official' 03:03UT C3 image pulled from the SOHO site

[link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]

hmm
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here is a good one

Coming solar storm not likely to affect power grid
"Scientists said it will be a minor event, and they have notified power grid operators, airlines and other potentially affected parties.

"We don't see any ill effects to any systems," said forecaster Joe Kunches at the U.S. Space Weather Prediction Center in Colorado"
[link to www.cbc.ca]

usually they always have stories of the risk, not ones about there being no issue
 Quoting: NiNzrez


This is BS .... why not take the warnings and alerts down on space weather then ??

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Something tells me this may be more worrisome than they want known.
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screenshot of C3 on helioviewer @ 03:03UT

[link to oi46.tinypic.com]

'official' 03:03UT C3 image pulled from the SOHO site

[link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]

hmm
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hiding

I have a feeling this CME is stronger than they are letting out to be...
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here is a good one

Coming solar storm not likely to affect power grid
"Scientists said it will be a minor event, and they have notified power grid operators, airlines and other potentially affected parties.

"We don't see any ill effects to any systems," said forecaster Joe Kunches at the U.S. Space Weather Prediction Center in Colorado"
[link to www.cbc.ca]

usually they always have stories of the risk, not ones about there being no issue
 Quoting: NiNzrez


Hey NIn on the solar page theres a revolving earth with hits on it . One says Jeff city MO. , thats very close to where I live? What exactly does that mean

I feel alot of energy coming in the last 15 minutes, crazy vibes like electric water running down my head. I have never felt this type before?
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[link to www.revolvermaps.com]

It's a visitor map for that website. That hit is your visit.......it doesn't mean you're getting hit.
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The leading edge of the CME can be seen on the STEREO A HI2 image- iit's the black blob entering the FOV on the right-hand side (note this image is 7 hrs old)-

[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
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here is a good one

Coming solar storm not likely to affect power grid
"Scientists said it will be a minor event, and they have notified power grid operators, airlines and other potentially affected parties.

"We don't see any ill effects to any systems," said forecaster Joe Kunches at the U.S. Space Weather Prediction Center in Colorado"
[link to www.cbc.ca]

usually they always have stories of the risk, not ones about there being no issue
 Quoting: NiNzrez


Hey NIn on the solar page theres a revolving earth with hits on it . One says Jeff city MO. , thats very close to where I live? What exactly does that mean

I feel alot of energy coming in the last 15 minutes, crazy vibes like electric water running down my head. I have never felt this type before?
 Quoting: shadasonic


[link to www.revolvermaps.com]

It's a visitor map for that website. That hit is your visit.......it doesn't mean you're getting hit.
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I feel like my head is spinning and about to explode. CME moving faster...slower....missing data....missing frames. CME going to be stronger....weaker....etc etc.

What is the bottom line on all of this? Does anyone really know approximately when the CME will hit and how bad it is likely to be? I feel like right now I can't trust any charts or graphs or space weather reports.

NiN...anyone...what is the bottom line?
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I feel like my head is spinning and about to explode. CME moving faster...slower....missing data....missing frames. CME going to be stronger....weaker....etc etc.

What is the bottom line on all of this? Does anyone really know approximately when the CME will hit and how bad it is likely to be? I feel like right now I can't trust any charts or graphs or space weather reports.

NiN...anyone...what is the bottom line?
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11years ago we had a magnetic field...now we have a poor excuse for a magnetic field that IMHO will not be able to cope with a few X20+ flares and their resulting CMEs !

I don't think this will be the one to send us back to the 1800s but soon...
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Here we goooooooooooooooooo!
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What the hell is going on here?

Conflicting data anyone???
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Here we goooooooooooooooooo!
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NOOOOO you jinx it!
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space weather says Bz is south. and solar ham says it's O- and has been for hours n hours. Nin do you know WTF is up w/ that?

Why are we getting such mixed data???gaah
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On Solarham, scroll down to the ACE click inside and it gives you this

[link to www.solarham.net] Shows Bz south for sometime. On the main screen, I have noticed the Bz "dial" isn't always correct - glitches from time to time
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screenshot of C3 on helioviewer @ 03:03UT

[link to oi46.tinypic.com]

'official' 03:03UT C3 image pulled from the SOHO site

[link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]

hmm
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Helioviewer is probably getting a mix of processed and unprocessed C3 imagery. They take out the constant background so new CMEs are more visible I believe. The background glow they are removing here is from the big guy. Same time stamps, at least at this moment...

Unprocessed from nrl.navy ...
[link to lasco-www.nrl.navy.mil]
Click "latest lasco C3"

Processed from soho ...
[link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]

Also, haven't used helioviewer much but they seem to lag behind both SDO and C2,C3 direct sites fairly often.

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The super derecho was a test, the grid is qoing down.
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here is a good one

Coming solar storm not likely to affect power grid
"Scientists said it will be a minor event, and they have notified power grid operators, airlines and other potentially affected parties.

"We don't see any ill effects to any systems," said forecaster Joe Kunches at the U.S. Space Weather Prediction Center in Colorado"
[link to www.cbc.ca]

usually they always have stories of the risk, not ones about there being no issue
 Quoting: NiNzrez


Hey NIn on the solar page theres a revolving earth with hits on it . One says Jeff city MO. , thats very close to where I live? What exactly does that mean

I feel alot of energy coming in the last 15 minutes, crazy vibes like electric water running down my head. I have never felt this type before?
 Quoting: shadasonic


that is a map of where our visitors are from ^^
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I've noticed that the last several large flares we've had have been all over MSM, this one I've heard nothing? My workers phones have been down all afternoon- AT&T,it rings once then says good bye, they aren't sure what the problem is(AT&T that is)!
 Quoting: shadasonic


thanks for reporting this :)
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I haven't heard much about this one on MSM either, i've watched to see if they'd say anything about it but.. nothing.
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I haven't heard much about this one on MSM either, i've watched to see if they'd say anything about it but.. nothing.
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I've noticed that the last several large flares we've had have been all over MSM, this one I've heard nothing? My workers phones have been down all afternoon- AT&T,it rings once then says good bye, they aren't sure what the problem is(AT&T that is)!
 Quoting: shadasonic


thanks for reporting this :)
 Quoting: NiNzrez


My husbands Verizon has been messing up since 9 PM EST last night (his business phone). Rings a couple times, starts the message then goes to a busy signal.

Needless to say, he has a couple of frustrated customers. One took 3 attempts before getting through.
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I haven't heard much about this one on MSM either, i've watched to see if they'd say anything about it but.. nothing.
 Quoting: Tiamat2012


...and this is why we've lost trust in mainstream media. They report trash, but when there is a public interest in something all you hear is crickets!
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Yep, nothing but crap news, boring politics and the whole PSU thing.
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...


perhaps its our galactic neighbors dropping in for a visit!
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It's the effect of protons on the camera sensor. BTW, if you see sudden white very small dots appear and immediately disappear it is likely proton, electron or some other such particle hitting retina and making visual neurons fire. I've seen 4 of those yesterday and today.
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oh thats so cool to know I see those things pretty frequently, I'm super super light sensitive. Last day or two I have noticed I see them even not looking at the sky, some of the ones I have seen almost have a blue/gray color. Could it be the same thing?
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Those which you see when looking at the sky are probably what somebody here mentioned as "floaters". I see those too specially on a clear blue sky by the sea. They move very rapidly and there can be hundreds of them, they look a bit like spermatozoons on a microscope.

Maybe personal differences in visual cell structure explain blue, or other colors. There are RGB cells in retina + BW night-vision mode + neuron layer that pre-process their information. That's quite many options for the protons to interact with.
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I was wondering about this, I get like spiraly floaters but has to be in the thousands its really hard to focus on all of them.
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space weather says Bz is south. and solar ham says it's O- and has been for hours n hours. Nin do you know WTF is up w/ that?

Why are we getting such mixed data???gaah
 Quoting: SpiderJones


On Solarham, scroll down to the ACE click inside and it gives you this

[link to www.solarham.net] Shows Bz south for sometime. On the main screen, I have noticed the Bz "dial" isn't always correct - glitches from time to time
 Quoting: whiteangel


Density is moving up as Bz is heading south, all signs of a coming storm.
The energy I feel is coming from somewhere, protons have been about the same all day, maybe this storms coming in early
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The super derecho was a test, the grid is qoing down.
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ohyeah
many elect. grids. transformers, cell towers will be fried, we had poping and blown fuses reported all over the valley YESTERDAY- combo heat, and flare.
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here is a good one

Coming solar storm not likely to affect power grid
"Scientists said it will be a minor event, and they have notified power grid operators, airlines and other potentially affected parties.

"We don't see any ill effects to any systems," said forecaster Joe Kunches at the U.S. Space Weather Prediction Center in Colorado"
[link to www.cbc.ca]

usually they always have stories of the risk, not ones about there being no issue
 Quoting: NiNzrez


This is BS .... why not take the warnings and alerts down on space weather then ??

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Something tells me this may be more worrisome than they want known.
 Quoting: TS66


seeeeee NOW your thinking like me
when i see with all the other big events this solar cycle them blasting on the MSM about how it could take down the grids, i got a good feeling that the events we were about to see would not do much
now we have this X flare (the highest kind) flare while in a direct earth facing shot, AND blast out a large CME right at us

We then get conflicting reports on if its earth directed or not, then they change that and say yes it is, but then give conflicting reports on how bad it will be
and what do we see in the MSM?
how were going to be just fine, all is ok, look up at the pretty pretty lights

pshhh it IS BS!
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here is a good one

Coming solar storm not likely to affect power grid
"Scientists said it will be a minor event, and they have notified power grid operators, airlines and other potentially affected parties.

"We don't see any ill effects to any systems," said forecaster Joe Kunches at the U.S. Space Weather Prediction Center in Colorado"
[link to www.cbc.ca]

usually they always have stories of the risk, not ones about there being no issue
 Quoting: NiNzrez


This is BS .... why not take the warnings and alerts down on space weather then ??

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Something tells me this may be more worrisome than they want known.
 Quoting: TS66


seeeeee NOW your thinking like me
when i see with all the other big events this solar cycle them blasting on the MSM about how it could take down the grids, i got a good feeling that the events we were about to see would not do much
now we have this X flare (the highest kind) flare while in a direct earth facing shot, AND blast out a large CME right at us

We then get conflicting reports on if its earth directed or not, then they change that and say yes it is, but then give conflicting reports on how bad it will be
and what do we see in the MSM?
how were going to be just fine, all is ok, look up at the pretty pretty lights

pshhh it IS BS!
 Quoting: NiNzrez


agree.
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Joint USAF/NOAA Report of Solar and Geophysical Activity
SDF Number 195 Issued at 2200Z on 13 Jul 2012

IA. Analysis of Solar Active Regions and Activity from 12/2100Z
to 13/2100Z: Solar activity has been at low levels for the past 24
hours. Region 1521 (S21W34) has been the most active region,
producing multiple low-level C-class events. Region 1520 (S16W23)
has decayed in area but remains the most magnetically complex region
on the disk, still classified as a beta-gamma-delta. The other four
numbered active sunspot regions have remained quiet and rather
stable. A CME was observed in LASCO C2 imagery at 13/0224Z. After
analysis, the CME was determined to not be geoeffective.

IB. Solar Activity Forecast: Solar activity is expected to be at
low to moderate levels for the next three days (14-16 July), as
Regions 1520 and 1521 continue to evolve and rotate toward the west
limb.

IIA. Geophysical Activity Summary 12/2100Z to 13/2100Z:
The geomagnetic field has been at quiet levels for the past 24 hours.
The greater than 2 MeV electron flux at geosynchronous orbit reached
high levels during the period.

IIB. Geophysical Activity Forecast: The geomagnetic field is
expected to be at quiet to minor storm levels with a slight chance
for isolated periods at major storm levels on day one (14 July), due
the arrival of the 12 July CME. Unsettled to active levels with a
chance for minor storm periods are expected on day two (15 July), as
effects of the CME continue. A return to predominantly quiet levels
is expected on day three (16 July).

III. Event Probabilities 14 Jul-16 Jul
Class M 70/70/70
Class X 20/20/20
Proton 99/99/50
PCAF red

IV. Penticton 10.7 cm Flux
Observed 13 Jul 147
Predicted 14 Jul-16 Jul 145/135/125
90 Day Mean 13 Jul 128

V. Geomagnetic A Indices
Observed Afr/Ap 12 Jul 011/014
Estimated Afr/Ap 13 Jul 003/003
Predicted Afr/Ap 14 Jul-16 Jul 017/034-014/018-004/005

VI. Geomagnetic Activity Probabilities 14 Jul-16 Jul
A. Middle Latitudes
Active 15/35/05
Minor storm 15/15/01
Major-severe storm 15/01/01
B. High Latitudes
Active 10/15/15
Minor storm 30/20/10
Major-severe storm 60/20/05
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here is a good one

Coming solar storm not likely to affect power grid
"Scientists said it will be a minor event, and they have notified power grid operators, airlines and other potentially affected parties.

"We don't see any ill effects to any systems," said forecaster Joe Kunches at the U.S. Space Weather Prediction Center in Colorado"
[link to www.cbc.ca]

usually they always have stories of the risk, not ones about there being no issue
 Quoting: NiNzrez


Hey NIn on the solar page theres a revolving earth with hits on it . One says Jeff city MO. , thats very close to where I live? What exactly does that mean

I feel alot of energy coming in the last 15 minutes, crazy vibes like electric water running down my head. I have never felt this type before?
 Quoting: shadasonic


that is a map of where our visitors are from ^^
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Thanks not using my brian today!
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I haven't heard much about this one on MSM either, i've watched to see if they'd say anything about it but.. nothing.
 Quoting: Tiamat2012


...and this is why we've lost trust in mainstream media. They report trash, but when there is a public interest in something all you hear is crickets!
 Quoting: Starry eyes


Yep, nothing but crap news, boring politics and the whole PSU thing.
 Quoting: Tiamat2012


The last two flares they were all over it, this one nothing!
“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan

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