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SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily)

 
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The current aurora forecasts don't look too promising for the mid-latitude hopefuls. The usual hi-lat. regions should see a spectacular show tho. Keep alert as these sub-storms could flare up some mighty aurora in 15-20 bursts without notice.

[link to www.gi.alaska.edu]

[link to helios.swpc.noaa.gov]

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time to some music

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Should get a higher Kp soon [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] Electron Fraggle plus Magnetoquake [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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Hell, it looks like I missed the party. Damn, I went to bed after 6 this morning and slept 11 hours, WTH!!!

Is it over guys, or is there more to come?
 Quoting: Vesper33


It only arrived about a Hour or so ago!
rose
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and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
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K6 now
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[link to www.haarp.alaska.edu]
Been hot for a bit now.
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Look at this intense Proton activity;

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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That is pretty intense.

I have a question. If a power grid is on the other side of a CME, can it still be affected?
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Hell, it looks like I missed the party. Damn, I went to bed after 6 this morning and slept 11 hours, WTH!!!

Is it over guys, or is there more to come?
 Quoting: Vesper33


Its only just begun [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] see!?

: )
The thing that hath been,
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and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
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Hell, it looks like I missed the party. Damn, I went to bed after 6 this morning and slept 11 hours, WTH!!!

Is it over guys, or is there more to come?
 Quoting: Vesper33


Its only just begun [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] see!?

: )
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


5a
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Sometime ago, there was a link to monitor power outages across the USA, anyone have it?
Isaiah 5:20 KJV
Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
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Talk about flat lining:
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Kp 5 only. I was hoping for at least an 8, shucks.
 Quoting: whiteangel


Well some of us have lost our satellite and it's not over yet !!!

I'd be a little worried with much more of an impact
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Just got back from shopping and didn't read back far enough. Sorry it is actually causing problems, guess I was hoping to see an aurora for the first time in my life. Sorry hon. flower
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Me too, can't wait for the kiddies to go to bed :)
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Goes Magnetometer at 1989 levels;

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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1989 levels across the board;

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Sometime ago, there was a link to monitor power outages across the USA, anyone have it?
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Someone posted it here last night, but it didn't seem like it was current, I think it was through google.
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Wiki;

Geomagnetic storm effects
Radiation hazards to humans

Intense solar flares release very-high-energy particles that can cause radiation poisoning to humans (and mammals in general) in the same way as low-energy radiation from nuclear blasts.

Earth's atmosphere and magnetosphere allow adequate protection at ground level, but astronauts in space are subject to potentially lethal doses of radiation. The penetration of high-energy particles into living cells can cause chromosome damage, cancer, and a host of other health problems. Large doses can be fatal immediately.

Solar protons with energies greater than 30 MeV are particularly hazardous. In October 1989, the Sun produced enough energetic particles that, if an astronaut were to have been standing on the Moon at the time, wearing only a space suit and caught out in the brunt of the storm, he would probably have died; the expected dose would be about 7000 rem[citation needed]. Note that astronauts who had time to gain safety in a shelter beneath moon soil would have absorbed only slight amounts of radiation.

The cosmonauts on the Mir station were subjected to daily doses of about twice the yearly dose on the ground, and during the solar storm at the end of 1989 they absorbed their full-year radiation dose limit in just a few hours.

Solar proton events can also produce elevated radiation aboard aircraft flying at high altitudes. Although these risks are small, monitoring of solar proton events by satellite instrumentation allows the occasional exposure to be monitored and evaluated, and eventually the flight paths and altitudes adjusted in order to lower the absorbed dose of the flight crews.
Biology

There is a growing body of evidence that changes in the geomagnetic field affect biological systems. Studies indicate that physically stressed human biological systems may respond to fluctuations in the geomagnetic field. Interest and concern in this subject have led the International Union of Radio Science to create a new commission entitled Commission K — Electromagnetics in Biology and Medicine.


Possibly the most closely studied of the variable Sun's biological effects has been the degradation of homing pigeons' navigational abilities during geomagnetic storms. Pigeons and other migratory animals, such as dolphins and whales, have internal biological compasses composed of the mineral magnetite wrapped in bundles of nerve cells.

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Hell, it looks like I missed the party. Damn, I went to bed after 6 this morning and slept 11 hours, WTH!!!

Is it over guys, or is there more to come?
 Quoting: Vesper33


Its only just begun [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] see!?

: )
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


Great!! Thank you!!! hugs
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By the way TS66 if you are still unsure about WingKP being the planetary index, watch for this chart [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] to post a 6 at 24:00 UTC (55 mins from now)
 Quoting: madajs


Thanks, but I know what the wing kp is, been using it for quite awhile. My only question was where Starry saw the Kp6 on other charts. I wanted to see which charts were reporting a Kp6

I know the wing updates much frequently thank the boulder model etc, I was hoping to see the Kp6 confirmed on Space Weather (threshold met) but they seem much less reliable than usual, and still haven't updated it to confirm the kp wing.

I'm far less confident in the space agencies capabilities than I've ever been before. I'm really hoping they get it together before the sh** really hits the fan.

Thanks madjas hf
 Quoting: TS66

Hehe it's not a question of reliability, the spaceweather.com index only updates every 3 hours, the next update being at 24:00 UTC (in 40 mins). They are on schedule %100.

It's not a matter of confirming the kp wing, as they have the same source, thus one does not confirm the other. It's just a matter of one being a 15 minute update while the other is a 3 hour update.
 Quoting: madajs


Clear your mind for a moment ... and please try and understand what I am saying, you are talking about an entirely other report on space weather.

I am referring to :

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
Not the K index chart, and regardless of the fact the site updates as needed, not at any set time, in order to issue warnings and alerts they still have not verified that the warning :

WARNING: Geomagnetic K-Index of 6 expected
Valid From: 2012 Jul 14 1915 UTC
Valid To: 2012 Jul 14 2359 UTC
Warning Condition: Onset
NOAA Scale: G2 - Moderate
Potential Impacts: Area of impact primarily poleward of 55 degrees Geomagnetic Latitude.
Induced Currents - Power grid fluctuations can occur. High-latitude power systems may experience voltage alarms.
Spacecraft - Satellite orientation irregularities may occur; increased drag on low Earth-orbit satellites is possible.
Radio - HF (high frequency) radio propagation can fade at higher latitudes.
Aurora - Aurora may be seen as low as New York to Wisconsin to Washington state.

Has reach it's threshold of a Kp 6.

Now I'm done , I will refrain from asking rudimentary questions, because to be honest, it's too much of a hassle.
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retreating in the southern hemisphere ... hope ...
from red to yellow

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outage information

[link to outagecentral.com]
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Clear your mind for a moment ... and please try and understand what I am saying, you are talking about an entirely other report on space weather.

I am referring to :

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
Not the K index chart, and regardless of the fact the site updates as needed, not at any set time, in order to issue warnings and alerts they still have not verified that the warning :

WARNING: Geomagnetic K-Index of 6 expected
Valid From: 2012 Jul 14 1915 UTC
Valid To: 2012 Jul 14 2359 UTC
Warning Condition: Onset
NOAA Scale: G2 - Moderate
Potential Impacts: Area of impact primarily poleward of 55 degrees Geomagnetic Latitude.
Induced Currents - Power grid fluctuations can occur. High-latitude power systems may experience voltage alarms.
Spacecraft - Satellite orientation irregularities may occur; increased drag on low Earth-orbit satellites is possible.
Radio - HF (high frequency) radio propagation can fade at higher latitudes.
Aurora - Aurora may be seen as low as New York to Wisconsin to Washington state.

Has reach it's threshold of a Kp 6.

Now I'm done , I will refrain from asking rudimentary questions, because to be honest, it's too much of a hassle.
 Quoting: TS66

Hmm and to top that off, the 3 hour chart just posted another 5 as it's new update. Now I am confused.

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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By the way TS66 if you are still unsure about WingKP being the planetary index, watch for this chart [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] to post a 6 at 24:00 UTC (55 mins from now)
 Quoting: madajs


Thanks, but I know what the wing kp is, been using it for quite awhile. My only question was where Starry saw the Kp6 on other charts. I wanted to see which charts were reporting a Kp6

I know the wing updates much frequently thank the boulder model etc, I was hoping to see the Kp6 confirmed on Space Weather (threshold met) but they seem much less reliable than usual, and still haven't updated it to confirm the kp wing.

I'm far less confident in the space agencies capabilities than I've ever been before. I'm really hoping they get it together before the sh** really hits the fan.

Thanks madjas hf
 Quoting: TS66


Someone posted this European source for KP data earlier today, but I don't know where their source data is from.
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had to leave for a few but just got back home and did a update to the blog
[link to mysolaralerts.blogspot.com]

Solar wind speeds at ACE have now reached over the 700 Km/sec mark

ACE Solar Conditions @ 00:02 UTC-
July 15, 2012
Solar Wind Speed : 706.12 Km/sec
Density: 12.0
Bz: -1.9
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I like this "real time ionosphere map".
[link to www.ips.gov.au]

I wonder how extreme that purple patch over Mexico get before there is some kind of breach? ...and if that would work in tandem with the magnetosphere? I don't think this CME is going to do that though.
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Sometime ago, there was a link to monitor power outages across the USA, anyone have it?
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Someone posted it here last night, but it didn't seem like it was current, I think it was through google.
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Thread: Power outage map for tomorrow morning as we get hit by solar flare
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Look at this intense Proton activity;

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


That is pretty intense.

I have a question. If a power grid is on the other side of a CME, can it still be affected?
 Quoting: Starry eyes


yes
all earth is affected
the particles come in through the poles
south and north poles
then travels along the van allen belt all over earth
there is no area on this planet that is not or will not be affected by any solar event worth mentioning
such as this one
if you read how a solar event can affect power grids for example, this applies to planet earth, not just one area or another
sunlit side of earth or not
this matters none

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Look at this intense Proton activity;

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


That is pretty intense.

I have a question. If a power grid is on the other side of a CME, can it still be affected?
 Quoting: Starry eyes


yes
all earth is affected
the particles come in through the poles
south and north poles
then travels along the van allen belt all over earth
there is no area on this planet that is not or will not be affected by any solar event worth mentioning
such as this one
if you read how a solar event can affect power grids for example, this applies to planet earth, not just one area or another
sunlit side of earth or not
this matters none
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Hi NiNzSunGirl,...

Could you post a link to the solar wind speeds please??

The ones I bookmarked earlier seem to have it missing.


Z
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Solar Wind Speed

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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Look at this intense Proton activity;

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


That is pretty intense.

I have a question. If a power grid is on the other side of a CME, can it still be affected?
 Quoting: Starry eyes


yes
all earth is affected
the particles come in through the poles
south and north poles
then travels along the van allen belt all over earth
there is no area on this planet that is not or will not be affected by any solar event worth mentioning
such as this one
if you read how a solar event can affect power grids for example, this applies to planet earth, not just one area or another
sunlit side of earth or not
this matters none
 Quoting: NiNzrez


Hi NiNzSunGirl,...

Could you post a link to the solar wind speeds please??

The ones I bookmarked earlier seem to have it missing.


Z
 Quoting: zacksavage


heya Zack :)
sure thing
here is for the wind speed and density
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
here is for the Bz
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
and here is the main page
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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Plasma
Total Field, B : 10.6 nT Speed, V : 666.5 km s-1
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heya Zack :)
sure thing
here is for the wind speed and density
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
here is for the Bz
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
and here is the main page
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
 Quoting: NiNzrez


Thankyou kindly. Very interesting period we are in with the sun and stuff.

So much data to sort through,..

Thank you for being you :)


Z

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