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SOLAR WATCH * 312 M & 25 X FLARES starting 3-7-2011 (Updated Daily)

 
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A short 20-min. burst of energy is what caused the Canadian Blackout of '89.



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Accompanying article from IEEE:

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 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


This was SOOO helpful and explained so much. No wonder there is a warning from Nasa. I'm going to go back into SW archive to see what might have caused this event. So we are not out of the woods yet by any means, speaking of which my Satellite Television is down as I write this, couple minutes now, hmmmmmmm. Thanks again Hugh, Isis One, over and out.

Edit, Spaceweather doesn't go back that far.
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This was the same storm that fried the transformer at the Salem Nuclear Plant in New Jersey.

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Just got home what is thishiding

[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
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Pretty messed up is what I'd say : ?

Does'nt look like 'normal' dust or high energy particles,I'm not sure!?
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By the way TS66 if you are still unsure about WingKP being the planetary index, watch for this chart [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] to post a 6 at 24:00 UTC (55 mins from now)
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Thanks, but I know what the wing kp is, been using it for quite awhile. My only question was where Starry saw the Kp6 on other charts. I wanted to see which charts were reporting a Kp6

I know the wing updates much frequently thank the boulder model etc, I was hoping to see the Kp6 confirmed on Space Weather (threshold met) but they seem much less reliable than usual, and still haven't updated it to confirm the kp wing.

I'm far less confident in the space agencies capabilities than I've ever been before. I'm really hoping they get it together before the sh** really hits the fan.

Thanks madjas hf
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Thank you Hugh for letting me know which event was involved.hf

Going to walk the dog, hope I don't get zapped, he he,
DISH TV still out in Pa. Crossing my fingers I get a tiny glimpse of an aurora tonight, in between the clouds.

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Just got home what is thishiding

[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
 Quoting: Goofy for God


Pretty messed up is what I'd say : ?

Does'nt look like 'normal' dust or high energy particles,I'm not sure!?
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Space friends minimizing the disruptive potential of this solar event?
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Talk about flat lining:
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Kp 5 only. I was hoping for at least an 8, shucks.
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Well some of us have lost our satellite and it's not over yet !!!

I'd be a little worried with much more of an impact
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Just got back from shopping and didn't read back far enough. Sorry it is actually causing problems, guess I was hoping to see an aurora for the first time in my life. Sorry hon. flower
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Just got home what is thishiding

[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
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Pretty messed up is what I'd say : ?

Does'nt look like 'normal' dust or high energy particles,I'm not sure!?
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


Thanks seems strangeabduct
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Just got home what is thishiding

[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
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Tiny flakes of debris from the spacecraft's insulation blanket....happens all the time.

[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

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Just got home what is thishiding

[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
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Pretty messed up is what I'd say : ?

Does'nt look like 'normal' dust or high energy particles,I'm not sure!?
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


Thanks seems strangeabduct
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Nin posted this yesterday and we never got to the bottom of it.
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This could be a very wild ride indeed!

Look at the ACE Data [link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov] as well as all the others,esp. [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

The Density at ACE is climbing as well the polarity fluctuating a fair bit!
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By the way TS66 if you are still unsure about WingKP being the planetary index, watch for this chart [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] to post a 6 at 24:00 UTC (55 mins from now)
 Quoting: madajs


Thanks, but I know what the wing kp is, been using it for quite awhile. My only question was where Starry saw the Kp6 on other charts. I wanted to see which charts were reporting a Kp6

I know the wing updates much frequently thank the boulder model etc, I was hoping to see the Kp6 confirmed on Space Weather (threshold met) but they seem much less reliable than usual, and still haven't updated it to confirm the kp wing.

I'm far less confident in the space agencies capabilities than I've ever been before. I'm really hoping they get it together before the sh** really hits the fan.

Thanks madjas hf
 Quoting: TS66

Hehe it's not a question of reliability, the spaceweather.com index only updates every 3 hours, the next update being at 24:00 UTC (in 40 mins). They are on schedule %100.

It's not a matter of confirming the kp wing, as they have the same source, thus one does not confirm the other. It's just a matter of one being a 15 minute update while the other is a 3 hour update.
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Can anyone else see what looks a tiny bit like a Comets Tail coming from the bright object in the top-right of the screen here [link to sohodata.nascom.nasa.gov] ?

Or are my eyes playing up!?
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


Yes, I see it, and by the way what is that bright object?
 Quoting: Isis One


I am pretty sure it is the Comet that was observed by TBar a couple of Days back(I think).

Here is Dr.Keith Strongs video about it,


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Look at the Dynamic Pressure climbing on ACE [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] !

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Hell, it looks like I missed the party. Damn, I went to bed after 6 this morning and slept 11 hours, WTH!!!

Is it over guys, or is there more to come?
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All this and just a G1 Minor :(
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The current aurora forecasts don't look too promising for the mid-latitude hopefuls. The usual hi-lat. regions should see a spectacular show tho. Keep alert as these sub-storms could flare up some mighty aurora in 15-20 bursts without notice.

[link to www.gi.alaska.edu]

[link to helios.swpc.noaa.gov]

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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time to some music

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Should get a higher Kp soon [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] Electron Fraggle plus Magnetoquake [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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Hell, it looks like I missed the party. Damn, I went to bed after 6 this morning and slept 11 hours, WTH!!!

Is it over guys, or is there more to come?
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It only arrived about a Hour or so ago!
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K6 now
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Been hot for a bit now.
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Look at this intense Proton activity;

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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That is pretty intense.

I have a question. If a power grid is on the other side of a CME, can it still be affected?
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Hell, it looks like I missed the party. Damn, I went to bed after 6 this morning and slept 11 hours, WTH!!!

Is it over guys, or is there more to come?
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Its only just begun [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] see!?

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Hell, it looks like I missed the party. Damn, I went to bed after 6 this morning and slept 11 hours, WTH!!!

Is it over guys, or is there more to come?
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Its only just begun [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] see!?

: )
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Sometime ago, there was a link to monitor power outages across the USA, anyone have it?
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Talk about flat lining:
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Kp 5 only. I was hoping for at least an 8, shucks.
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Well some of us have lost our satellite and it's not over yet !!!

I'd be a little worried with much more of an impact
 Quoting: TS66


Just got back from shopping and didn't read back far enough. Sorry it is actually causing problems, guess I was hoping to see an aurora for the first time in my life. Sorry hon. flower
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Me too, can't wait for the kiddies to go to bed :)
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Goes Magnetometer at 1989 levels;

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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1989 levels across the board;

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Sometime ago, there was a link to monitor power outages across the USA, anyone have it?
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Someone posted it here last night, but it didn't seem like it was current, I think it was through google.
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Wiki;

Geomagnetic storm effects
Radiation hazards to humans

Intense solar flares release very-high-energy particles that can cause radiation poisoning to humans (and mammals in general) in the same way as low-energy radiation from nuclear blasts.

Earth's atmosphere and magnetosphere allow adequate protection at ground level, but astronauts in space are subject to potentially lethal doses of radiation. The penetration of high-energy particles into living cells can cause chromosome damage, cancer, and a host of other health problems. Large doses can be fatal immediately.

Solar protons with energies greater than 30 MeV are particularly hazardous. In October 1989, the Sun produced enough energetic particles that, if an astronaut were to have been standing on the Moon at the time, wearing only a space suit and caught out in the brunt of the storm, he would probably have died; the expected dose would be about 7000 rem[citation needed]. Note that astronauts who had time to gain safety in a shelter beneath moon soil would have absorbed only slight amounts of radiation.

The cosmonauts on the Mir station were subjected to daily doses of about twice the yearly dose on the ground, and during the solar storm at the end of 1989 they absorbed their full-year radiation dose limit in just a few hours.

Solar proton events can also produce elevated radiation aboard aircraft flying at high altitudes. Although these risks are small, monitoring of solar proton events by satellite instrumentation allows the occasional exposure to be monitored and evaluated, and eventually the flight paths and altitudes adjusted in order to lower the absorbed dose of the flight crews.
Biology

There is a growing body of evidence that changes in the geomagnetic field affect biological systems. Studies indicate that physically stressed human biological systems may respond to fluctuations in the geomagnetic field. Interest and concern in this subject have led the International Union of Radio Science to create a new commission entitled Commission K — Electromagnetics in Biology and Medicine.


Possibly the most closely studied of the variable Sun's biological effects has been the degradation of homing pigeons' navigational abilities during geomagnetic storms. Pigeons and other migratory animals, such as dolphins and whales, have internal biological compasses composed of the mineral magnetite wrapped in bundles of nerve cells.

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