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SOLAR WATCH * 312 M & 25 X FLARES starting 3-7-2011 (Updated Daily)

 
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Russia launches joint Soyuz space mission

Veteran Russian cosmonaut Yuri Malenchenko, Nasa astronaut Sunita Williams and Japanese astronaut Akihiko Hoshide launched successfully aboard the Soyuz TMA-05M rocket from the Baikonur cosmodrome in Kazakhstan at 0240 GMT
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But the electric force is 39 orders of power stronger than the gravitational force.
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That's One thousand, trillion, trillion, trillion times as strong......(for those who wanted to know)
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Yes, but mainstream says space is electrically neutral, even though we have the auras, and all spacecraft are now shielded because of negative charge buildup on all spacecraft and probes leaving Earth's Double Layer. It's ok to need to know it to protect probes against surges as long as you don't admit its existence.
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launched straight through the storm

clever russians rockon
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Could anyone please explain what exactly is going on? Where did all of this craziness come from???
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Here is a video of the event/s,


[link to www.youtube.com]

I thought you already knew though Snake!?

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Could anyone please explain what exactly is going on? Where did all of this craziness come from???
 Quoting: SnakeBite


Here is a video of the event/s,


[link to www.youtube.com]

I thought you already knew though Snake!?
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


Hey woops, i got confused there O.O, For some reason i got to thinking all was over, i am understanding now that this is far from the case! :P
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We are running out of protons for this one..the roaring rapids ride is getting pretty far back down. Maybe a couple more good drops.

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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Would that explain why global absorption is low in spite of the current circumstances ???

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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Could someone please explain to me as I am still learning all this what the kp ratings mean please and thank you =)
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The Kp Rating is an Planetary estimate of the amount of harmful UV Radiation as well as other Solar Particles that are able to penetrate the Earths' protective Atmospheres at any one time.
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


WRONG! Look it up, Cesium. You should know better...tsk...tsk.
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


Wtf!?

So I did'nt include all of what it is an indication of..remember Hugh Geomagnetic Storms allow more harmful Solar Radiation to breach our protective Atmospheres,so for Humans it representing the likelyhood of more SR reaching the body is a decent enough explantion for now.

Feel free to include all variables.

KP of 5 would equal a G1 Geomagnetic Storm KP 9 equal to a G5etc,perhaps I should have mentioned that also but it is obvious.

As it pertains to Humans the higher the Geomagnetic Storm the more likely that harmful Radiation can penetrate our Atmospheres.

You petty bugger.
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


It has nothing to do with UV radiation. It's a measure of the global MAGNETIC FIELD deviation. Curse you, Bugger, for making me link to wikipodia. We have a lot of new readers here and I feel duty-bound to give out correct info. PEACE.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
peace

Last Edited by Hugh M Eye on 07/15/2012 07:37 AM
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Could anyone please explain what exactly is going on? Where did all of this craziness come from???
 Quoting: SnakeBite


Here is a video of the event/s,


[link to www.youtube.com]

I thought you already knew though Snake!?
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


Hey woops, i got confused there O.O, For some reason i got to thinking all was over, i am understanding now that this is far from the case! :P
 Quoting: SnakeBite


Yes,although the CMEs travel at some rate of Speed the affects in Geo-Space can last well beyond the time it would take for the actual CME to pass Planet Earth.

This is due to our Magnetosphere afinity for Solar Storms : )
We end up with trapped plasmas and other high energy Particles like the Electrons etc.

Here is a decnt enough site where you can click on any of the links to observe the passage and effects on our Magnetosphere of such events [link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]

I like this one [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] and tend to use that as my basis for observing.

Also the ACE Satelitte data(which is over a Million Miles from Earth)can provide you with data on what the incoming events may possibly have once it reaches Planet Earth [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] <--- Click play on the ACE playout : )

Last Edited by Spittin'Cesium on 07/15/2012 07:54 AM
The thing that hath been,
is That which shall be;
and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
Ecclesiastes 9:1
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Could anyone please explain what exactly is going on? Where did all of this craziness come from???
 Quoting: SnakeBite


Here is a video of the event/s,


[link to www.youtube.com]

I thought you already knew though Snake!?
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


Hey woops, i got confused there O.O, For some reason i got to thinking all was over, i am understanding now that this is far from the case! :P
 Quoting: SnakeBite


Yes,although the CMEs travel at some rate of Speed the affects in Geo-Space can last well beyond the time it would take for the actual CME to pass Planet Earth.

This is due to our Magnetosphere afinity for Solar Storms : )
We end up with trapped plasmas and other high energy Particles like the Electrons etc.

Here is a decnt enough site where you can click on any of the links to observe the passage and effects on our Magnetosphere of such events [link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]

I like this one [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] and tend to use that as my bases for observing.

Also the ACE Satelitte data(which is over a Million Miles from Earth)can provide you with data on what the incoming events may possibly have once it reaches Planet Earth [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] <--- Click play on the ACE playout : )
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


That link is AWESOME!! Thanks Sunbro:P!:rockon:
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11 minutes until the Boulder K 7 gets confirmed... 3 day Kp may just follow suit
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...


The Kp Rating is an Planetary estimate of the amount of harmful UV Radiation as well as other Solar Particles that are able to penetrate the Earths' protective Atmospheres at any one time.
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


WRONG! Look it up, Cesium. You should know better...tsk...tsk.
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


Wtf!?

So I did'nt include all of what it is an indication of..remember Hugh Geomagnetic Storms allow more harmful Solar Radiation to breach our protective Atmospheres,so for Humans it representing the likelyhood of more SR reaching the body is a decent enough explantion for now.

Feel free to include all variables.

KP of 5 would equal a G1 Geomagnetic Storm KP 9 equal to a G5etc,perhaps I should have mentioned that also but it is obvious.

As it pertains to Humans the higher the Geomagnetic Storm the more likely that harmful Radiation can penetrate our Atmospheres.

You petty bugger.
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


It has nothing to do with UV radiation. It's a measure of the global MAGNETIC FIELD deviation. Curse you, Bugger, for making me link to wikipodia. We have a lot of new readers here and I feel duty-bound to give out correct info. PEACE.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
peace
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


So you could'nt(yourself)extrapolate that the higher the KP the more chance of harmful Solar Radiation reaching our Bodies!?

UV is just one of the many types of potentially harmful Solar Radiation.

For instance,if there was a KP Reading of 5 or higher I would,Esp. on a clear Sunny Day reduce my exposure to the Sun Rays..would'nt you?

Quote,

'It's a measure of the global MAGNETIC FIELD deviation'

Yes,that is otherwise known as an indication of Geomagnetic Storms as the quoted comment above says.

But anyway.
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WOW!

Over 1100nT totally reversed H (North) component of the geomagnetic field within a few minutes. For those of you that are not that familiar with the magnetometers, that is the last long black line along the 11:00 UT. line.

hcomponet1

Above pic may take a while to show up as it was just uploaded.

[link to www.haarp.alaska.edu]

Last Edited by tomasgod1 on 07/15/2012 07:54 AM
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Just got home from working all night..so is the CME over?
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1 hour prediction is at Kp 8

4 hour is still maxed out.

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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Just got home from working all night..so is the CME over?
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Put your seatbelt on and do some quick catching up, Things are shall we say "crazy"
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WOW!

Over 1100nT totally reversed H (North) component of the geomagnetic field within a few minutes. For those of you that are not that familiar with the magnetometers, that is the last long black line along the 11:00 UT. line.

hcomponet1

Above pic may take a while to show up as it was just uploaded.

[link to www.haarp.alaska.edu]
 Quoting: tomasgod1


Nice one TaG1,thank you for sharing : )

To see it still in a graph up it to 2000 nT [link to www.haarp.alaska.edu]

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NOAA is being grossly negligent in not issuing a K7 alert or warning. Spaceweatherlive lists the Kp=7.67 and Potsdam has had a Kp=7 for 3 hours now. NOAA's homebase Boulder magnetometer is at 7.3 and has been over 7 for some time now. AND STILL NO K7 ALERT FROM NOAA? WTF?

SpaceweatherLive:
[link to www.spaceweatherlive.com]

Potsdam Kp-index:
[link to www.theusner.eu]

Boulder magnetometer:
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

wtf
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WOW!

Over 1100nT totally reversed H (North) component of the geomagnetic field within a few minutes. For those of you that are not that familiar with the magnetometers, that is the last long black line along the 11:00 UT. line.

:hcomponet1:

Above pic may take a while to show up as it was just uploaded.

[link to www.haarp.alaska.edu]
 Quoting: tomasgod1


Am I wrong or is that more extreme than 1989?

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We are running out of protons for this one..the roaring rapids ride is getting pretty far back down. Maybe a couple more good drops.

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
 Quoting: tomasgod1


Would that explain why global absorption is low in spite of the current circumstances ???

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
 Quoting: TS66


yes
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If KP reaches 9, then is it lights out for dayside of the planet?hiding
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EXTENDED WARNING: Geomagnetic K-Index of 6 expected

Latest from NOAA...
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Boulder K 7 just confirmed...

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Planetary still 6

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NOAA is being grossly negligent in not issuing a K7 alert or warning. Spaceweatherlive lists the Kp=7.67 and Potsdam has had a Kp=7 for 3 hours now. NOAA's homebase Boulder magnetometer is at 7.3 and has been over 7 for some time now. AND STILL NO K7 ALERT FROM NOAA? WTF?

SpaceweatherLive:
[link to www.spaceweatherlive.com]

Potsdam Kp-index:
[link to www.theusner.eu]

Boulder magnetometer:
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

wtf
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Almost as bad as shutting down completely for hours with no further updates prior to this CMEs arrival.

Negligent is an incredibly nice way to put it.
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NOAA is being grossly negligent in not issuing a K7 alert or warning. Spaceweatherlive lists the Kp=7.67 and Potsdam has had a Kp=7 for 3 hours now. NOAA's homebase Boulder magnetometer is at 7.3 and has been over 7 for some time now. AND STILL NO K7 ALERT FROM NOAA? WTF?

SpaceweatherLive:
[link to www.spaceweatherlive.com]

Potsdam Kp-index:
[link to www.theusner.eu]

Boulder magnetometer:
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

wtf
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The observed data is still just below 7(6.67)rather than the estimate..once it reaches the threshold they should issue the alert.

Last Edited by Spittin'Cesium on 07/15/2012 08:07 AM
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KP 9=Lights out? hiding
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Boulder K 7 just confirmed...

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Planetary still 6
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This planetary average is saying 7 now.

[link to www.theusner.eu]

I'm still trying to catch up with what I missed while asleep last night. I don't think I can read all the posts. The time it has been taking for me to do that has kept me behind with what is happening now. But still trying.

Last Edited by shenue on 07/15/2012 08:10 AM
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This is the exact reason why we are always concerned about the orientation of these CMEs. The ion temp has dropped dramatically, the wind speed is down, the proton count is low now but this long continued -BznT is continuing to drive the Kp up. Shields are "down" and the solar particles are flowing in at the poles.
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Boulder K 7 just confirmed...

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Planetary still 6
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This planetary average is saying 7 now.


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 Quoting: shenue

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] just updated in the last 5 mins

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From NASA Goddard facebook post about Kp6 :

"It is possible that the intensity of the storm may increase - stay tuned to the GSFC Space Weather Center for updates!"
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WOW!

Over 1100nT totally reversed H (North) component of the geomagnetic field within a few minutes. For those of you that are not that familiar with the magnetometers, that is the last long black line along the 11:00 UT. line.

hcomponet1

Above pic may take a while to show up as it was just uploaded.

[link to www.haarp.alaska.edu]
 Quoting: tomasgod1


Am I wrong or is that more extreme than 1989?

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Not yet at least. Compare this GOES magnetometer plot to the one you cited above-

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NOAA is being grossly negligent in not issuing a K7 alert or warning. Spaceweatherlive lists the Kp=7.67 and Potsdam has had a Kp=7 for 3 hours now. NOAA's homebase Boulder magnetometer is at 7.3 and has been over 7 for some time now. AND STILL NO K7 ALERT FROM NOAA? WTF?

SpaceweatherLive:
[link to www.spaceweatherlive.com]

Potsdam Kp-index:
[link to www.theusner.eu]

Boulder magnetometer:
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

wtf
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


The observed data is still just below 7(6.67)rather than the estimate..once it reaches the threshold they should issue the alert.
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


Being as it is just below a 7, it rates at the VERY LEAST a "Kp of 7 expected" alert. They can verify it has "threshold reached" later, like they do for all others.

It comes down to a failed attempt to calm the masses .... as we no longer trust them.
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How long will this Mutha of a geomagnetic storm last??yoda

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