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SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily)

 
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Another hi C flare almost an M .
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C8.7 Region 1226
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The electron flux is really up there as well.
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looks like another cme too. poor stereo b is gonna get nailed twice:/
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Arter closer observation on EVE SAM, it looks like this flare came from the yet to be numberd sister spot next to Region 1226.
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So It looks to me like this is earth directed (the cme) and is 1126 on the 60 degree mark or what? What can we expect??
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Recent CME vid(LASCO C2, thus may not be Earth-bounded)
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So It looks to me like this is earth directed (the cme) and is 1126 on the 60 degree mark or what? What can we expect??
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they both are shooting far to the left of earth, not a direct hit and probably total misses imo..
i think the 60 degree mark only works on the other W side. Tgod can confirm whether that connection works on E -60 also. i've only seen it happen once and it was from the other side..
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the same thing thats charging our magnetosphere is also charging particles within earth

Bingo!

On spot, NINzrez
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I do not get why so many people miss that connection
even if i can't show a graph for what its doing, its scientific fact that solar winds and particles reach mass and interact with said mass
Earth is mass, therefore, when solar winds/particles of any kind reach us, they interact with earth and everything on and in it
we can then safely conclude that when we see our atmosphere charged, so then is everything else on and within earth
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As above so is below! Love you suntards!smile_kiss
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I'm a visual person, and I "see" this heating the Earths core, which makes increased earthquake and volcanic activity complete sense, not too mention ocean floor vents opening up. Tell you what else crosses my mind, Newtons Law of motion, "To every action there is always an equal and opposite reaction". The opposite of what is happening now, an Ice Age.
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[link to www.lmsal.com] shows a m1.4 and high c's over last few hours.

gev_20110529_1008 2011/05/29 10:08:00 11:08:00 10:33:00 M1.4 S20E64 ( 1226 )
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gev_20110529_1136 2011/05/29 11:36:00 11:42:00 11:39:00 C7.7 S21E63 ( 1226 )
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gev_20110529_2104 2011/05/29 21:04:00 21:22:00 21:15:00 C8.7 S19E72 ( 1227 )
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gev_20110530_0247 2011/05/30 02:47:00 02:55:00 02:52:00 C3.2


[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

shows a radio event, type II and type IV alerts current.

still got a high k4 and high k5 sudden impulse geomag alert, persistant.

Was worried about [link to www2.nict.go.jp] Over the last few hours, the temp, dense and bz,s and by's had all stayed at one level.. strange. but they're moving again now. Pressure still high red and white. But with what you're saying that these m's and high c's are earthbound, we will see more activity, not less on the mag over the next few days. Also, of course, watching for an increase in e/quake activity due to this as well over the next few days.

Thanks all for being suntards with me!! : )) And thank you NinZ for this aWesome thread!

just watching, and wondering?

stay safe ; )
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just popping in for a sek to show you guys this

NOAA: possibilities for an M or X flare over next 3 days:
Class M - 40%
Class X - 05%

Space Weather Message Code: ALTTP4
Serial Number: 332
Issue Time: 2011 May 30 0324 UTC

ALERT: Type IV Radio Emission
Begin Time: 2011 May 29 2112 UTC
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

R4 radio black outs happen around 8 times a cycle
a cycle is 11 years
8 times in 11 years and we just got 1
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

R 4
Severe
HF Radio: : HF radio communication blackout on most of the sunlit side of Earth for one to two hours. HF radio contact lost during this time.

Navigation: Outages of low-frequency navigation signals cause increased error in positioning for one to two hours. Minor disruptions of satellite navigation possible on the sunlit side of Earth.


ill be on in the morning to do some updates :)
hope everyone in the US is having a great 3 day holiday weekend!

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So It looks to me like this is earth directed (the cme) and is 1126 on the 60 degree mark or what? What can we expect??
 Quoting: finley


they both are shooting far to the left of earth, not a direct hit and probably total misses imo..
i think the 60 degree mark only works on the other W side. Tgod can confirm whether that connection works on E -60 also. i've only seen it happen once and it was from the other side..
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Our "Foot Point" location is currently next Region 1224. for this reason we do have a proximity alert, but not for Region 1126.
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just popping in for a sek to show you guys this

NOAA: possibilities for an M or X flare over next 3 days:
Class M - 40%
Class X - 05%

Space Weather Message Code: ALTTP4
Serial Number: 332
Issue Time: 2011 May 30 0324 UTC

ALERT: Type IV Radio Emission
Begin Time: 2011 May 29 2112 UTC
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

R4 radio black outs happen around 8 times a cycle
a cycle is 11 years
8 times in 11 years and we just got 1
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

R 4
Severe
HF Radio: : HF radio communication blackout on most of the sunlit side of Earth for one to two hours. HF radio contact lost during this time.

Navigation: Outages of low-frequency navigation signals cause increased error in positioning for one to two hours. Minor disruptions of satellite navigation possible on the sunlit side of Earth.


ill be on in the morning to do some updates :)
hope everyone in the US is having a great 3 day holiday weekend!
 Quoting: NiNzrez

Awesome stuff! NASA's site has their solar flare probability for an X flare from Region 1226 at 63%!
[link to iswa.ccmc.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080]

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NiN, I took my camera out today seeing how the clouds broke for a bit to take some shots of the Sun. I don't know if you've seen pix going around with what looks light a smaller body below the Sun, or the Sun itself, well, I caught it! (I don't have a paid subscription, so can't post pix up). My thoughts... if it is in fact the Sun, it is exuding tremendous brightness, making the Sun itself look small in comparison, giving off the illusion that it is "a binary star, or other object".

Hopefully GLP observatory looks into this on a cloudy day, with small breaks in between the clouds.
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Okay, these are pics I took today. Hopefully this works and you can view them. Any ideas here??

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just popping in for a sek to show you guys this

NOAA: possibilities for an M or X flare over next 3 days:
Class M - 40%
Class X - 05%

Space Weather Message Code: ALTTP4
Serial Number: 332
Issue Time: 2011 May 30 0324 UTC

ALERT: Type IV Radio Emission
Begin Time: 2011 May 29 2112 UTC
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

R4 radio black outs happen around 8 times a cycle
a cycle is 11 years
8 times in 11 years and we just got 1
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

R 4
Severe
HF Radio: : HF radio communication blackout on most of the sunlit side of Earth for one to two hours. HF radio contact lost during this time.

Navigation: Outages of low-frequency navigation signals cause increased error in positioning for one to two hours. Minor disruptions of satellite navigation possible on the sunlit side of Earth.


ill be on in the morning to do some updates :)
hope everyone in the US is having a great 3 day holiday weekend!
 Quoting: NiNzrez

Awesome stuff! NASA's site has their solar flare probability for an X flare from Region 1226 at 63%!
[link to iswa.ccmc.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080]
 Quoting: tomasgod1

flarepredict0530
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Can't copy the photo, but hope this saved as a link to it..
[link to www.lmsal.com]

Watching solarsoft, [link to www.lmsal.com] and the second pic of the live sun showed a strange line coming off the just combined 1227 and 1226 spots! Very strange?? Saw similar on another solar thread last week, but that one when upwards.

just wondering, and watching?

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The Philippine Institute of Volcanology and Seismology (Phivolcs) observed a “remarkable increase” in the number of volcanic earthquakes around Taal Volcano with 115 tremors during its 24-hour observation period.

Out of the 115 earthquakes detected from 8 a.m. last Sunday until 8 a.m. Monday, 12 were felt with intensities that ranged from 1 to 4 and accompanied by rumbling sounds, Phivolcs reported.

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So It looks to me like this is earth directed (the cme) and is 1126 on the 60 degree mark or what? What can we expect??
 Quoting: finley


they both are shooting far to the left of earth, not a direct hit and probably total misses imo..
i think the 60 degree mark only works on the other W side. Tgod can confirm whether that connection works on E -60 also. i've only seen it happen once and it was from the other side..
 Quoting: OpenEnded


Our "Foot Point" location is currently next Region 1224. for this reason we do have a proximity alert, but not for Region 1126.
[link to iswa.ccmc.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080]
 Quoting: tomasgod1


they still can't get that page working in ie? lot of good info there but i'm still confused with the earth connectivity..
does our foot point location change on the visible disk or is it always right there?
is it just longditude of 60 or it has to be at the same latitude also?

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sh..

Solar Update - Solar activity continues at moderate levels with multiple C-Class flares and the odd M-Class flare taking place mostly around Sunspots 1226 and 1227. Continue to monitor the Solar X-Rays for further activity. These regions continue to rotate into a more geoeffective position and any flares at this point could generate an earth directed Coronal Mass Ejection (CME).
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just popping in for a sek to show you guys this

NOAA: possibilities for an M or X flare over next 3 days:
Class M - 40%
Class X - 05%

Space Weather Message Code: ALTTP4
Serial Number: 332
Issue Time: 2011 May 30 0324 UTC

ALERT: Type IV Radio Emission
Begin Time: 2011 May 29 2112 UTC
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

R4 radio black outs happen around 8 times a cycle
a cycle is 11 years
8 times in 11 years and we just got 1
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

R 4
Severe
HF Radio: : HF radio communication blackout on most of the sunlit side of Earth for one to two hours. HF radio contact lost during this time.

Navigation: Outages of low-frequency navigation signals cause increased error in positioning for one to two hours. Minor disruptions of satellite navigation possible on the sunlit side of Earth.


ill be on in the morning to do some updates :)
hope everyone in the US is having a great 3 day holiday weekend!
 Quoting: NiNzrez

Awesome stuff! NASA's site has their solar flare probability for an X flare from Region 1226 at 63%!
[link to iswa.ccmc.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080]
 Quoting: tomasgod1


wowzers!
and take a look at this
[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
(for others looking...)
chose todays date, red 304, a big resolution, and submit
wow!
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Haha I forgot all about the Solar Flares it's the start of the 11 year cycle too.
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oooo and i was watching "Universe" on netflix
the 1st episode is about the sun
some NASA guy said that they put their satellites into "Hibernation mode" or Safe Mode when they see any solar activity that could possibly damage the satellite systems and render them useless

I got this article about it
"Much of the damage can be mitigated if managers know a storm is coming. Putting satellites in 'safe mode' and disconnecting transformers can protect these assets from damaging electrical surges. Preventative action, however, requires accurate forecasting—a job that has been assigned to NOAA."
[link to science.nasa.gov]

Now we know why we loose data feeds when we see major solar events that we want to monitor!
But this would imply that they believe these recent events are more dangerous than they are letting on
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oooo and i was watching "Universe" on netflix
the 1st episode is about the sun
some NASA guy said that they put their satellites into "Hibernation mode" or Safe Mode when they see any solar activity that could possibly damage the satellite systems and render them useless

I got this article about it
"Much of the damage can be mitigated if managers know a storm is coming. Putting satellites in 'safe mode' and disconnecting transformers can protect these assets from damaging electrical surges. Preventative action, however, requires accurate forecasting—a job that has been assigned to NOAA."
[link to science.nasa.gov]

Now we know why we loose data feeds when we see major solar events that we want to monitor!
But this would imply that they believe these recent events are more dangerous than they are letting on
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That is very interesting I was wondering why they kept going offline
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So It looks to me like this is earth directed (the cme) and is 1126 on the 60 degree mark or what? What can we expect??
 Quoting: finley


they both are shooting far to the left of earth, not a direct hit and probably total misses imo..
i think the 60 degree mark only works on the other W side. Tgod can confirm whether that connection works on E -60 also. i've only seen it happen once and it was from the other side..
 Quoting: OpenEnded


Our "Foot Point" location is currently next Region 1224. for this reason we do have a proximity alert, but not for Region 1126.
[link to iswa.ccmc.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080]
 Quoting: tomasgod1


they still can't get that page working in ie? lot of good info there but i'm still confused with the earth connectivity..
does our foot point location change on the visible disk or is it always right there?
is it just longditude of 60 or it has to be at the same latitude also?
 Quoting: OpenEnded


I don't know why they will not make the site work with ie. My favorite laptop crapped out and I have been trying to get everything over to another. I had to load GChrome on this as well just for that site. The foot point location changes continually. There is a date box at the bottom of the app and you can look at previous dates to get an idea of the movement or our foot point location around the solar disk. For a mental visual, picture a long wire connecting the earth to the sun at the foot point location. In this case the "wire" is invisible and magnetic. When our location is near an active region then there is a "proximity alert". During a CME from a region near this attached line, protons, electrons, and some of the heavier charged elements are able to travel down this line at an accelerated rate to the earth, even if the region was not facing or directed towards earth.

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oooo and i was watching "Universe" on netflix
the 1st episode is about the sun
some NASA guy said that they put their satellites into "Hibernation mode" or Safe Mode when they see any solar activity that could possibly damage the satellite systems and render them useless

I got this article about it
"Much of the damage can be mitigated if managers know a storm is coming. Putting satellites in 'safe mode' and disconnecting transformers can protect these assets from damaging electrical surges. Preventative action, however, requires accurate forecasting—a job that has been assigned to NOAA."
[link to science.nasa.gov]

Now we know why we loose data feeds when we see major solar events that we want to monitor!
But this would imply that they believe these recent events are more dangerous than they are letting on
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just popping in for a sek to show you guys this

NOAA: possibilities for an M or X flare over next 3 days:
Class M - 40%
Class X - 05%

Space Weather Message Code: ALTTP4
Serial Number: 332
Issue Time: 2011 May 30 0324 UTC

ALERT: Type IV Radio Emission
Begin Time: 2011 May 29 2112 UTC
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

R4 radio black outs happen around 8 times a cycle
a cycle is 11 years
8 times in 11 years and we just got 1
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

R 4
Severe
HF Radio: : HF radio communication blackout on most of the sunlit side of Earth for one to two hours. HF radio contact lost during this time.

Navigation: Outages of low-frequency navigation signals cause increased error in positioning for one to two hours. Minor disruptions of satellite navigation possible on the sunlit side of Earth.


ill be on in the morning to do some updates :)
hope everyone in the US is having a great 3 day holiday weekend!
Quoting: NiNzrez

Awesome stuff! NASA's site has their solar flare probability for an X flare from Region 1226 at 63%!
[link to iswa.ccmc.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080]
Quoting: tomasgod1


wowzers!
and take a look at this
[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
(for others looking...)
chose todays date, red 304, a big resolution, and submit
wow!

Thanks NiN for that link first time it has worked for me. Is there anyway to save that to my computer?
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Awesome movie Nin. What are those tubes called that form on the surface. I see at least three of them in that movie.

I know they can cause quite a flare when they collapse, so be ready. Especially if the two at the top join ends like they seem to want to do.
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sh..

CME activity - In the latest Lasco movies you can see numerous Coronal Mass Ejections billowing away from the sun. Most of these are not earth directed, however a few of them may partially be earth directed. Click HERE to download movie.

Solar Update - Solar activity continues at moderate levels with multiple C-Class flares and the odd M-Class flare taking place mostly around Sunspots 1226 and 1227. Continue to monitor the Solar X-Rays for further activity. These regions continue to rotate into a more geoeffective position and any flares at this point could generate an earth directed Coronal Mass Ejection (CME).

Sunspot 1222 which is located towards the northwest limb did show some growth on Sunday, but will soon rotate onto the limb and out of direct earth view. Another new sunspot now numbered 1229 formed between Sunspots 1225 and 1228 also located in the north.
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they still can't get that page working in ie? lot of good info there but i'm still confused with the earth connectivity..
does our foot point location change on the visible disk or is it always right there?
is it just longditude of 60 or it has to be at the same latitude also?
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I don't know why they will not make the site work with ie. My favorite laptop crapped out and I have been trying to get everything over to another. I had to load GChrome on this as well just for that site. The foot point location changes continually. There is a date box at the bottom of the app and you can look at previous dates to get an idea of the movement or our foot point location around the solar disk. For a mental visual, picture a long wire connecting the earth to the sun at the foot point location. In this case the "wire" is invisible and magnetic. When our location is near an active region then there is a "proximity alert". During a CME from a region near this attached line, protons, electrons, and some of the heavier charged elements are able to travel down this line at an accelerated rate to the earth, even if the region was not facing or directed towards earth.
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strange how the line moves around like that, i assume if the spot and cme was in the foot point it would also have a more profound mag effect, taking the shortcut and finding little resistance/dilution along the way. that last one that jumped the line was stronger than expected, besides being much earlier..
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good link, thx. it's nice to see so. africa taking the sun seriously..
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Re: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily)
Awesome movie Nin. What are those tubes called that form on the surface. I see at least three of them in that movie.

I know they can cause quite a flare when they collapse, so be ready. Especially if the two at the top join ends like they seem to want to do.
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They are called filaments. Sometimes when large filaments collapse they can cause hyder flares. I believe this is what you were referring to. :)
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