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Couple of real nasty spots on far side now!
[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
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So how many CMEs do we have coming?
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i was thinking four... for sure three
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Hi family hi

im back but now i have plenty much to readgrouphug...:D

missed ya all here!!!
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yeah, me too.. looks like bumpy days Mon-Wed
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Here is a crazy question. Knowing that the soho lasso images have not been working for over a day now, is it possible they have been damaged and are not currently functional rather than a cover up? A second question. Just like we have buoys as an early warning detection system for tsunamis do we have anything sensors in space comparable to the buoy to let us know if trouble is heading our way? If not why not? I really appreciate everyone input in advance. I love this thread!
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Not a crazy question. They probably do, but will never give access to the public.
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Here is a crazy question. Knowing that the soho lasso images have not been working for over a day now, is it possible they have been damaged and are not currently functional rather than a cover up? A second question. Just like we have buoys as an early warning detection system for tsunamis do we have anything sensors in space comparable to the buoy to let us know if trouble is heading our way? If not why not? I really appreciate everyone input in advance. I love this thread!
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You did not know that NASA bugged out.... Did you not get the memo? I'm sure they sent it to everyone.....
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okay some update:

this morning a M3.9 solar flare took place peaking at 0050z from region 1305

[link to www.lmsal.com]

The two largest groups saw region 1302 decrease in size slightly but is still a FKC, Beta Gamma Delta type group while region 1305 increased in size slightly to a DSO, Beta gamma type group.

A new group rotated into view over the north-east limb yesterday. There is a group on the backside of the Sun which produced a large solar flare yesterday morning, this is still more than a week away before rotating into view.

At least two coronal mass ejections appear to be Earthbound and are due late on the 2nd or the 3rd.



:newsunspotsoctob:
Image shows the collection of groups in the northern hemisphere


Video from Kevin(Solarham)

Several Coronal Mass Ejections are seen in this STEREO Behind COR2 movie. The first one was caused by a long duration M1.2 solar flare on Oct 1 around Sunspot 1305. The second was a farside event. The 3rd was during the early hours of Oct 2nd and resulted from an M3.9 Solar Flare around Sunspot 1305. Also notice the sundiving comet.



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Here is a crazy question. Knowing that the soho lasso images have not been working for over a day now, is it possible they have been damaged and are not currently functional rather than a cover up? A second question. Just like we have buoys as an early warning detection system for tsunamis do we have anything sensors in space comparable to the buoy to let us know if trouble is heading our way? If not why not? I really appreciate everyone input in advance. I love this thread!
 Quoting: Slade


You did not know that NASA bugged out.... Did you not get the memo? I'm sure they sent it to everyone.....
ohyeah
 Quoting: XP...


SDO: The Solar Dynamics Observatory is the first mission to be launched for NASA's Living With a Star (LWS) Program, a program designed to understand the causes of solar variability and its impacts on Earth. SDO is designed to help us understand the Sun's influence on Earth and Near-Earth space by studying the solar atmosphere on small scales of space and time and in many wavelengths simultaneously.

SDO's goal is to understand, driving towards a predictive capability, the solar variations that influence life on Earth and humanity's technological systems by determining

how the Sun's magnetic field is generated and structured
how this stored magnetic energy is converted and released into the heliosphere and geospace in the form of solar wind, energetic particles, and variations in the solar irradiance.
 Quoting: nasa

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

Living With a Star Program

Heliophysics is the study of the Sun and its interactions with Earth and the solar system. The Heliophysics science program consists of two strategic programs/mission lines: the Solar Terrestrial Probes and Living with a Star; one Principal Investigator- led competed line (the Explorers); and a set of Research programs including a fleet of operating missions known as the Heliophysics System Observatory. All play a part in the development of scientific understanding of the heliophysics system.

Living With a Star emphasizes the science necessary to understand those aspects of the Sun and space environment that most directly affect life and society. LWS missions target the linkages across the interconnected system with an ultimate goal of enabling a predictive understanding. The first LWS mission is the Solar Dynamics Observatory (SDO), which was launched early in 2010. This mission observes how the Sun’s magnetic field is generated and structured and stored magnetic energy is converted and released into the heliosphere in the form of solar wind, energetic particles, and variations in the solar irradiance. The second LWS mission will be the Radiation Belt Storm Probes (RBSP). The twin RBSP spacecraft will determine how charged particles in space near the Earth are accelerated to hazardous energies that affect satellites, astronaut safety, and high-altitude aircraft. Concurrently with RBSP, the Balloon Array for Radiation-belt Relativistic Electron Losses (BARREL) will measure the high-energy particle precipitation from the radiation belts into our Earth’s atmosphere. RBSP will launch in 2012............cont>
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[link to lws.gsfc.nasa.gov]
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Here is a crazy question. Knowing that the soho lasso images have not been working for over a day now, is it possible they have been damaged and are not currently functional rather than a cover up? A second question. Just like we have buoys as an early warning detection system for tsunamis do we have anything sensors in space comparable to the buoy to let us know if trouble is heading our way? If not why not? I really appreciate everyone input in advance. I love this thread!
 Quoting: Slade


You did not know that NASA bugged out.... Did you not get the memo? I'm sure they sent it to everyone.....
ohyeah
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Nasa and soho obviously withholding images/data from us as they always do when something of importance is occuring.

They may need to doctor images in the name of national (corporate) security/interest.
Besides they wouldn't want to panic the masses if it was serious.....freeways must remain open so elite can make it to safety.tounge
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Radiation Belt Storm Probe (RBS) - Mission Status

August has been a busy month for the Radiation Belt Storm Probes and the scientists and engineers preparing the twin RBSP spacecraft (A and B) for their 2012 launch. On August 3, NASA approved a new launch readiness date of August 15, 2012
 Quoting: nasa

[link to www.nasa.gov]

BUT

Are TGFs Hazardous to Air Travelers?
February 10, 2010

Instruments scanning outer space for cataclysmic explosions called gamma-ray bursts are detecting intense flashes of gamma-ray energy right here in the friendly skies of Earth. These terrestrial gamma-ray flashes, or TGFs, blast through thunderstorms close to the altitude where commercial airliners fly.

In fact, they could be too close for comfort.

In a recent study,* scientists estimated that airline passengers could be exposed to 400 chest X-rays worth of radiation by being near the origin of a single millisecond blast. Joe Dwyer of the Florida Institute of Technology took part in that research, which used observations from NASA's Reuven Ramaty High Energy Solar Spectroscopic Imager, or RHESSI, to estimate the danger TGFs pose. .............................................................​.......cont




GBM wasn't designed to look for TGFs, but GBM co-investigator Michael Briggs has greatly enhanced its sensitivity to them by writing new software.

"TGFs have really been an afterthought for missions so far," says Dwyer. RHESSI, for example, points at the sun, but the RHESSI team figured out a way to measure TGFs by detecting gamma-rays coming in through the satellite's backside. "All these instruments have been pointing across the universe, while right over our heads these monsters are going off!"

"Now the whole field of TGFs is on fire," says Fishman. "People are jumping on the bandwagon to try to figure them out."
 Quoting: nasa

[link to science.nasa.gov]

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Looks like it has been very busy, as I slept through the night. I have much catching up to do. I just want to take a minute and say thank you to you, NIN... and ALL of you here on this thread! I so appreciate all of the research and time you invest, to keep us informed. You are a Godsend, a gift to each of us. May God watch over, protect and bless each and every one of you! THANK YOU!

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We have lift off! Spiking now...
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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We have lift off! Spiking now...
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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And done, looks like it topped out at a C 2.6
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thus because all airline flights may be increasingly hazardous

Are TGFs Hazardous to Air Travelers?
February 10, 2010
 Quoting: nasa


if nasa own predictions are believed by themselves

Global Warming Will Bring Violent Storms And Tornadoes, NASA Predicts
 Quoting: nasa

[link to www.sciencedaily.com]

nasa`s firefly mission was quickly formed to find out

Firefly Mission to Study Terrestrial Gamma-ray Flashes

High-energy bursts of gamma rays typically occur far out in space, perhaps near black holes or other high-energy cosmic phenomena. So imagine scientists' surprise in the mid-1990s when they found these powerful gamma ray flashes happening right here on Earth, in the skies overhead.

They're called Terrestrial Gamma-ray Flashes, or TGFs, and very little is known about them. They seem to have a connection with lightning, but TGFs themselves are something entirely different.
 Quoting: nasa

[link to science.nasa.gov]




BUT

Firefly: An NSF CubeSat project

Understanding Earth's most powerful natural particle accelerator
[link to firefly.gsfc.nasa.gov]


has it flown yet?

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NASA Science Chief stepped down 2 days ago... He was in charge of the heliophysics division. He had been with NASA for 32 years... now gone. They have no replacement for him so the deputy chief is filling in. Interesting timing, no?
See link below:

[link to www.space.com]

From your friend, -Skippy
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NASA Science Chief stepped down 2 days ago... He was in charge of the heliophysics division. He had been with NASA for 32 years... now gone. They have no replacement for him so the deputy chief is filling in. Interesting timing, no?
See link below:

[link to www.space.com]

From your friend, -Skippy
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it is skippy

sea change coming?

feels like a void at this moment as in:
pause in motive (what they desire to prove)
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thus because all airline flights may be increasingly hazardous

Are TGFs Hazardous to Air Travelers?
February 10, 2010
 Quoting: nasa


if nasa own predictions are believed by themselves

Global Warming Will Bring Violent Storms And Tornadoes, NASA Predicts
 Quoting: nasa

[link to www.sciencedaily.com]

nasa`s firefly mission was quickly formed to find out

Firefly Mission to Study Terrestrial Gamma-ray Flashes

High-energy bursts of gamma rays typically occur far out in space, perhaps near black holes or other high-energy cosmic phenomena. So imagine scientists' surprise in the mid-1990s when they found these powerful gamma ray flashes happening right here on Earth, in the skies overhead.

They're called Terrestrial Gamma-ray Flashes, or TGFs, and very little is known about them. They seem to have a connection with lightning, but TGFs themselves are something entirely different.
 Quoting: nasa

[link to science.nasa.gov]




BUT

Firefly: An NSF CubeSat project

Understanding Earth's most powerful natural particle accelerator
[link to firefly.gsfc.nasa.gov]


has it flown yet?
 Quoting: aether


Many thanks fopr your info
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now i`m looking i am certain firefly has never launched and the topic of Terrestrial Gamma Ray Flashes has gone silent

airbus

It remains a mystery what caused the Airbus to plummet into the Atlantic Ocean, killing all 228 passengers, including five Britons.
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floats in thought
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now i`m looking i am certain firefly has never launched and the topic of Terrestrial Gamma Ray Flashes has gone silent

airbus

It remains a mystery what caused the Airbus to plummet into the Atlantic Ocean, killing all 228 passengers, including five Britons.
 Quoting: crash


floats in thought
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whoa

which leads to:

"They clearly record an electrical discharge like a lightning bolt flashing past, and I was snapping the pictures almost exactly . . . when the Columbia may have begun breaking up during re-entry."

The discharge is described as "a bright scraggly flash of orange light, tinged with pale purple, and shaped somewhat like a deformed L."

As the flash crossed the shuttle's contrail, it immediately became brighter and began to twist, as if the shuttle had started abruptly wobbling.
 Quoting: shuttle
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Good morning and Namaste to all.
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Couple of real nasty spots on far side now!
[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
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wowey
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Good Morning.

Did I miss the discussion on this?

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Its not an x flare it's the comet impact reaction.

Hi IWTB

glad you are here.

What say you? And please anyone on this.
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Good Morning.

Did I miss the discussion on this?

[link to rajaten.wordpress.com]


Its not an x flare it's the comet impact reaction.

Hi IWTB

glad you are here.

What say you? And please anyone on this.
 Quoting: finley

Electromagnetism is what we are witnessing.
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Hi family hi

im back but now i have plenty much to readgrouphug...:D

missed ya all here!!!
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Hi there IWTB..glad to see ya!
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Good morning and Namaste to all.
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good morning El Q
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Radiation Belt Storm Probe (RBS) - Mission Status

August has been a busy month for the Radiation Belt Storm Probes and the scientists and engineers preparing the twin RBSP spacecraft (A and B) for their 2012 launch. On August 3, NASA approved a new launch readiness date of August 15, 2012
 Quoting: nasa

[link to www.nasa.gov]

BUT

Are TGFs Hazardous to Air Travelers?
February 10, 2010

Instruments scanning outer space for cataclysmic explosions called gamma-ray bursts are detecting intense flashes of gamma-ray energy right here in the friendly skies of Earth. These terrestrial gamma-ray flashes, or TGFs, blast through thunderstorms close to the altitude where commercial airliners fly.

In fact, they could be too close for comfort.

In a recent study,* scientists estimated that airline passengers could be exposed to 400 chest X-rays worth of radiation by being near the origin of a single millisecond blast. Joe Dwyer of the Florida Institute of Technology took part in that research, which used observations from NASA's Reuven Ramaty High Energy Solar Spectroscopic Imager, or RHESSI, to estimate the danger TGFs pose. .............................................................​.......cont




GBM wasn't designed to look for TGFs, but GBM co-investigator Michael Briggs has greatly enhanced its sensitivity to them by writing new software.

"TGFs have really been an afterthought for missions so far," says Dwyer. RHESSI, for example, points at the sun, but the RHESSI team figured out a way to measure TGFs by detecting gamma-rays coming in through the satellite's backside. "All these instruments have been pointing across the universe, while right over our heads these monsters are going off!"

"Now the whole field of TGFs is on fire," says Fishman. "People are jumping on the bandwagon to try to figure them out."
 Quoting: nasa

[link to science.nasa.gov]
 Quoting: aether


Thanks, aether...very interesting links there.
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Hi Tom

What do you think of the cme from the comet. A glancing blow for us.

Maybe Nin put this oon updates on beg of thread. I saw this but I'd like your thoughts.hf
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Okay Well it looks to me that it just missed us again.afro
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Hi Tom

What do you think of the cme from the comet. A glancing blow for us.

Maybe Nin put this oon updates on beg of thread. I saw this but I'd like your thoughts.hf
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The CME that you are referring to was off the far NE limb. Because of the size of this CME it is possible that we will see some wrap around due to the Parker Spiral.
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Here is a crazy question. Knowing that the soho lasso images have not been working for over a day now, is it possible they have been damaged and are not currently functional rather than a cover up? A second question. Just like we have buoys as an early warning detection system for tsunamis do we have anything sensors in space comparable to the buoy to let us know if trouble is heading our way? If not why not? I really appreciate everyone input in advance. I love this thread!
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There is nothing wrong with SOHO, this is typical. ACE and SOHO are those "buoys".
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