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SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily)

 
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This one was also quite interesting.



I lot of energy it being shoved our way,...

Apparently.




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Opps,...double post.



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Opps,...double post.



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Thanks for thatSmiley
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Re: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily)
is this latest CME already about to hit?
we can see a sharp drop starting in the electron flux
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
 Quoting: NiNzrez


Hi Nin..

something about to hit:

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
 Quoting: Gabriel


Does anyone have a guess at how hard a hit we are about to take and when? Should we try to protect our electronics and when? No matter how much I keep trying to learn what all these graphs mean, I just don't get some of it.
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is this latest CME already about to hit?
we can see a sharp drop starting in the electron flux
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
 Quoting: NiNzrez


The CACTus (Computer-Aided CME Tracking) website shows 25 CMEs from 10/21-10/22; of course some were huge and others barely noticeable. It gets really confusing triangulating the data/imagery and then following the energies as they expand outward from the sun.

[link to www.sidc.oma.be]

My hunch is the smaller CME is more Earth-directed (before the large one at North and the big-fast-blast which followed 10 hours later w/M-flare).

[link to www.sidc.oma.be]


The NEW NOAA Enlil Solar Wind Prediction model has a "storm-mode" CME-based model. According to this model, NOAA expects geo-effectiveness to begin 20-24 hours from now. But with 25 CMEs and only one shown on model, it's anyone's guess what's going on.

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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It still doesn't sound right with me. Maybe several combined.
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Hey all...hope all is well. I havent been around much lately...just checking in and seeing what has been going on....
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Hey!! Good to hear you
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Re: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily)
Stereo Ahead C2 shows two CMEs between 19:39 UTC Mar. 11, and 4:24 UTC Mar. 12.

There was an Earth facing CME that shows up beginning at 19:39:24 UTC 2011/03/11, and another (very large) CME on the far side of the Sun starting at 4:24:24 UTC 2011/03/12.
[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]
 Quoting: tomasgod1


Cool, is that from the M1 flare a little while ago? I wonder why there's a big cme now but not with the x flare?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1269377


good catch tom :)
did you happen to see this on SOHO
[link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]

know what those are?
 Quoting: NiNzrez


as space is not a vacuum it must be an atmosphere

in an atmosphere life moves rockon
 Quoting: aether


Beyond the Atmosphere

The exosphere starts at the top to the thermosphere and continues until it merges with interplanetary gases, or space. In this region of the atmosphere, Hydrogen and Helium are the prime components and are only present at extremely low densities.
 Quoting: nasa

[link to www.nasa.gov]

our authorities confirm there are "fields" in every part of our universe, gravity, electric and magnetic, the non material dimensional forces that form and sustain units (matter) within them

now confirmation of gases (atmosphere to something(s))

Last Edited by aether on 10/24/2011 11:57 AM
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Re: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily)
COMET NEWS: NASA's Spitzer Space telescope spots "comet storm" in nearby solar system Eta Corvi. Said to resemble the "Late Heavy Bombardment" in our own system.
[link to www.jpl.nasa.gov]

Lovely photo of Comet Garradd:
[link to apod.nasa.gov]

Dust cloud spotted may be the remnants of Comet Elenin-photo & article.
[link to spaceweather.com]

[link to www.spaceweather.com]
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Re: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily)
A new un-numbered region has come over the eastern limb. A fairly large spot at a very high latitude-I guesstimate almost 40 degrees N. Interesting.

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
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A new un-numbered region has come over the eastern limb. A fairly large spot at a very high latitude-I guesstimate almost 40 degrees N. Interesting.

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


Hey Hugh,...thank you.

Interesting indeed:)



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Hugh M Eye

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Re: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily)
CME has hit the Earth's magnetosphere...check it out.

[link to www2.nict.go.jp]
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Re: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily)
CME has hit the Earth's magnetosphere...check it out.

[link to www2.nict.go.jp]
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


Solar Wind speed increasing at 518.0 km/sec

Proton Density up to 12.5/cubic centimeter

[link to www.spaceweather.com]

NICT model image from 18:10 UTC:

[link to www2.nict.go.jp]
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[link to www2.nict.go.jp]
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 Quoting: barniss


Bz(nT) has been jumping back and forth from N to S to North again. I think this is good for Earth. NIN & Tom are the experts on this magnetic stuff.

Solar wind now decreased to 503.4 km/sec and Proton density down now to 2.7.
Latest NOAA spaceweather data plots here:

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Tromso magnetometer shows an obvious spike:

[link to flux.phys.uit.no]
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Re: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily)
Thanks Huge I would of totally missed this if not for you.hf
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Re: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily)
Looks like a second wave is hitting us now-shields seem to holding up well, tho.

[link to www2.nict.go.jp]
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Thread: CME IMPACT! Strong ground currents have been detected in Norway!
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Hugh M Eye

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Looks like a second wave is hitting us now-shields seem to holding up well, tho.

[link to www2.nict.go.jp]
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye

Kp Index has now jumped to 5-STORM level.
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Solar Wind speed back up to 525.9 km/sec

Density back up to 13.8 protons per cubic cm.

[link to www.spaceweather.com]

Bz=12.1 nT south. NOAA data plots here:

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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Looks like a second wave is hitting us now-shields seem to holding up well, tho.

[link to www2.nict.go.jp]
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye

Kp Index has now jumped to 5-STORM level.
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Solar Wind speed back up to 525.9 km/sec

Density back up to 13.8 protons per cubic cm.

[link to www.spaceweather.com]

Bz=12.1 nT south. NOAA data plots here:

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye



Are we still within "safe" levels though? I remember about a month ago, someone said the top left simulation here ... the 'tentacles' should be wrapped tightly when we are being hit. That we don't want to see them ummm spread out like this.

[link to www2.nict.go.jp]
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Looks like a second wave is hitting us now-shields seem to holding up well, tho.

[link to www2.nict.go.jp]
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye

Kp Index has now jumped to 5-STORM level.
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Solar Wind speed back up to 525.9 km/sec

Density back up to 13.8 protons per cubic cm.

[link to www.spaceweather.com]

Bz=12.1 nT south. NOAA data plots here:

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye



Are we still within "safe" levels though? I remember about a month ago, someone said the top left simulation here ... the 'tentacles' should be wrapped tightly when we are being hit. That we don't want to see them ummm spread out like this.

[link to www2.nict.go.jp]
 Quoting: Shenue


The initial wave was pretty weak and then faded-but now things are getting bumpy. If the big CME hit us straight on we may've been in a bit of trouble, but this is just the edge of the wave so we should be fine. There's really no way of knowing when a particular satellite may malfunction or if GPS will go off-until it happens.

Kp Index at Longyearbyen, Norway is at Storm level 6-everywhere else is at 4 or 5 right now.
[link to flux.phys.uit.no]
[link to flux.phys.uit.no]
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I always forget about Nins' Solar Thread!

Went and Posted an Magnetotard Thread myself without thinking.
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This.. [link to www2.nict.go.jp] Isnt' Pretty.

The Inner Magnetosphere is Totally Loaded in this Image!
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and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
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With these consecutive images I think you can see the Inner Magnetosphere Lines snap out and capture Energy from the Outer Shell and then re-coiling back with the Inner Magnetosphere loaded as a result..

[link to www2.nict.go.jp]

[link to www2.nict.go.jp]

[link to www2.nict.go.jp]

Snaps..
[link to www2.nict.go.jp]

Captures..
[link to www2.nict.go.jp]

Recoiled..
[link to www2.nict.go.jp]

: )
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and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
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Re: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily)
Shields are still holding.
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Its' strange that the Velocity of the Solar Wind is relatively Low..There must have been a fair bit of Energy in this Event/s.

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and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
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Shields are still holding.
 Quoting: finley


Took quite a shock it seems. Spaceweather.com is reporting magnetic field compression all the way down to geo-synchronus orbit. Satellite TV may be a little fuzzy this evening,lol.

[link to www.spaceweather.com]

Here's the infamous ground-current plots from Norway.

[link to spaceweather.com]

You can see the pressure at high levels about an hour ago. Glad I'm not in a plane or a space station tonight.

[link to www2.nict.go.jp]
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Re: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily)
With these consecutive images I think you can see the Inner Magnetosphere Lines snap out and capture Energy from the Outer Shell and then re-coiling back with the Inner Magnetosphere loaded as a result..

[link to www2.nict.go.jp]

[link to www2.nict.go.jp]

[link to www2.nict.go.jp]

Snaps..
[link to www2.nict.go.jp]

Captures..
[link to www2.nict.go.jp]

Recoiled..
[link to www2.nict.go.jp]

: )
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


Its' strange that the Velocity of the Solar Wind is relatively Low..There must have been a fair bit of Energy in this Event/s.
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium

Yeah, I've never seen such a high storm level with this low SW velocity. I know there were several major CMEs, but none was directly in our face. This seems quite strong for a glancing blow. Here's the NOAA satellite environment plots:

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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[link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov]

I don't see it.

scratching

Exactly which CME hit us then. Glancing blow from the Mars directed CME?
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