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SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily)

 
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Just when your cars were heating up the place, ha ha, cosmic rays to the rescue - turn our planet into a cloud forest. Maybe some property in Costa Rica wouldn't be such a bad idea after all.
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Sometimes I feel like I am running in circles with this. One post in front of the other does not negate the previous post. :)
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Tomas, my mistake. I went back and realized I missed an entire page trying to play catch up. I get it all now with all the information you provided.
If I hadn't missed that page...well, you know.

And to all of you, THANKS. I have learned so much and appreciate everything you guys are doing. I have always been fascinated with the sun.
"I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I ended up where I intended to be" - DA
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in looking into the cosmic ray thing, i came across the geomagnetic data. a plot of field strength in three directions for the month past : [link to forecast.izmiran.rssi.ru]

the plot shows a clear daily variation... kinda looked like a heart beat scan at first glance. Whatever, it shows a remarkable regularity.

what could cause this i wonder?

i looked and found:

"4. Conclusions
Monitoring of electromagnetic geophysical
parameters in polar areas is fundamental in
many fields since it can give important information
for a better comprehension of the Earth’s
magnetosphere structure and evolution, and the
solar control on magnetic activity as observed
at Earth’s surface.
The diurnal variation of geomagnetic field
elements is a well known phenomenon that has
been extensively studied especially at mid latitudes.
An equivalent electric current system is
often used to represent the source of the observed
field. At middle latitudes the equivalent
current system consists of two current vortices,
centred at about 40° latitude N and S respectively.
A special additional contribution to diurnal
variation appeared necessary in order to justify
the polar daily variation plots. This additional
field was called Sq
d (Solar quiet polar) or
DP2 according to various authors (Nishida and
Kokubun, 1971; Ratcliffe, 1972). A possible
cause of the polar current system is the magnetospheric
convection that generates a quasi permanent
current system in the polar regions
which is steadily oriented with respect to the
Sun-Earth line; the Earth rotation underneath
this system causes the magnetic field elements
daily variation.
Our analysis, based on box-plot statistics,
shows that the pattern of diurnal variation, in all
the components, does not depend on the season
or the solar activity; conversely, the variation
amplitude strongly depends on both season and
solar activity. In fact, for each year a clear seasonal
effect is visible, with the largest variation
during austral summer and middle and low activity
during equinoxes and winter respectively.
The dependence of the daily current system that
causes the S field at the station on solar activity
emerges even more pronounced.
Looking at the plots, a link between some
characteristics of daily variation and magnetic
activity was immediately evident: when the planetary
magnetic activity is higher the variation
amplitudes in all seasons are higher. We can conclude
that at high latitude, contrary to what happens
at middle latitude, daily variation also depends
strongly on magnetic global activity. This
result is consistent with previous findings (Lepidi
et al., 2003), obtained from the analysis of a
very short data set (approximately 1 month) during
local summer at cap latitudes."

document is here : [link to www.earth-prints.org]


...which is interesting, but does not answer the question.

our planet has a magnetic daily heartbeat that appears to be independent of solar activity (tho its amplitude is affected by solar summer vs solar winter): how cool!
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...which is interesting, but does not answer the question.

our planet has a magnetic daily heartbeat that appears to be independent of solar activity (tho its amplitude is affected by solar summer vs solar winter): how cool!
 Quoting: learner


where does our rhythm come from :

Most people are unaware that we have no understanding of how lightning is created in clouds. The simplest answer is that lightning is not generated there at all. Clouds merely form a convenient path to Earth for electricity originating in space. Without clouds it is possible to have a "bolt from the blue". That is happening on Venus (although the sky certainly isn't blue). Weather systems are driven primarily by external electrical influences.

Consequently the Sun has weather patterns. And the most distant planet, Neptune, has the most violent winds in the solar system though it receives very little energy from the Sun. Electric discharges from space cause Mars' huge dust devils and planet-wide dust storms. They are responsible for Jupiter's Great Red Spot and the "spokes" in Saturn's rings. It is why Venus has lightning in its smog-like clouds and its mountain-tops glow with St. Elmo's fire. It is why the Earth has lightning stretching into space in the form of "red sprites" and "blue jets", and why tethered satellites "blow a fuse".
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if this is true all bodies within our solar system, including our sun, beat to a rhythm energized from outside of our suns heliosphere placing our sun as the regulator of those rhythms within it`s domain, not their cause
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I put together this video of the beautiful filament eruption from yesterday.

Enjoy!



[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: tomasgod1

Good show, Tom. Had to watch again in full screen.

Another eruption on the far side north seen from STEREO B:

[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

SEEDS shock-wave loop from yesterday's blast:

[link to spaceweather.gmu.edu]

New active region on east limb is now 1358.

[link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]
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if this is true all bodies within our solar system, including our sun, beat to a rhythm energized from outside of our suns heliosphere placing our sun as the regulator of those rhythms within it`s domain, not their cause
 Quoting: aether


how do u reach that conclusion?
All that stuff just tells me that there are deeply powerful electric phenomena happening to all the planets in the system.

it speaks not of cause or origin.

and anyway, the earths beat is different than the other planets and the sun. i think the metronome is closer to home.
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Awesome video Tom! I feel like Bill & Ted on this site sometimes ("were not worthy"). Your devotion is "astronomical". I'm the same with CNC, wifey HATES it, but hey its a living. Keep up the good work!
God bless.
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this is coming soon to mainstream:

Jaroslav Kopernicky , who proves that the attractive force between two magnets is greater than their repulsive force, which disproves Coulomb's Law. And it suggests that the attractive force of gravity is this difference between attractive and repulsive forces in magnetic fields. Since magnetic fields are created by electric fields, gravity must be an electrical effect.
 Quoting: observation


thus when i detect weight change (gravity fluctuation) of physical effect upon myself so does earth and earthquakes fire off within a short time after

look how many today
 Quoting: aether


Thanks.

This makes a great deal of sense to me. I've always believed gravity was a physical process consisting of attractive and repulsive components. Will look into it some more. You have some links?
Isaiah 55:8 'For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD.'
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SOHO showing spike in SW velocity-between 425-450 km/s.

[link to umtof.umd.edu]

ACE is only at 383 km/s.

GOES electron flux has been scrambled up for a while now:

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

STEREO A and SOHO are on holiday.
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if this is true all bodies within our solar system, including our sun, beat to a rhythm energized from outside of our suns heliosphere placing our sun as the regulator of those rhythms within it`s domain, not their cause
 Quoting: aether


how do u reach that conclusion?
All that stuff just tells me that there are deeply powerful electric phenomena happening to all the planets in the system.

it speaks not of cause or origin.

and anyway, the earths beat is different than the other planets and the sun. i think the metronome is closer to home.
 Quoting: learner 5821206


if the earth is different to the other planets and the sun, which it is , the experienced and observed effects of the common cause will be different to the other planets and sun

all bodies within our solar system are manifesting observable effects representative of their individual reaction to the commons cause
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this is coming soon to mainstream:

Jaroslav Kopernicky , who proves that the attractive force between two magnets is greater than their repulsive force, which disproves Coulomb's Law. And it suggests that the attractive force of gravity is this difference between attractive and repulsive forces in magnetic fields. Since magnetic fields are created by electric fields, gravity must be an electrical effect.
 Quoting: observation


thus when i detect weight change (gravity fluctuation) of physical effect upon myself so does earth and earthquakes fire off within a short time after

look how many today
 Quoting: aether


Thanks.

This makes a great deal of sense to me. I've always believed gravity was a physical process consisting of attractive and repulsive components. Will look into it some more. You have some links?
 Quoting: TardisBlue


[link to www.worldsci.org]
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Thunderbolts.info is hosting an ELECTRIC UNIVERSE 2012 Conference at the Rio Hotel in Vegas in January. More info on speakers, presentations, schedules, etc. can be found here:

[link to www.thunderbolts.info]

Maybe Finley (are you out there, Finley?) will volunteer to report for us from Vegas, hehe.


SOLAR MEGASTORMS can GENERATE a GLOBAL NUCLEAR NIGHTMARE! A not-too-comforting article from op-ed news.

[link to www.opednews.com]
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Wow yeah I would report. Hi All. I've been lurking and learning a lot out here. Hey yeah the Rio is close and they have a made to order buffet thingy that is awesome.

Anyway

you guys are doing a great job. Maybe I can make a video out here of the conference. If I can enlist some help with some friends. It could be a fun project.afro
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Wow yeah I would report. Hi All. I've been lurking and learning a lot out here. Hey yeah the Rio is close and they have a made to order buffet thingy that is awesome.

Anyway

you guys are doing a great job. Maybe I can make a video out here of the conference. If I can enlist some help with some friends. It could be a fun project.afro
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Hello,hiapplause That's a great idea. Maybe you could get George Knapp to cover, too. Thanks for lurking.
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I put together this video of the beautiful filament eruption from yesterday.

Enjoy!



[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: tomasgod1


Mesmerizing! Thank you for sharing. I almost clapped at the end. hf
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Wow yeah I would report. Hi All. I've been lurking and learning a lot out here. Hey yeah the Rio is close and they have a made to order buffet thingy that is awesome.

Anyway

you guys are doing a great job. Maybe I can make a video out here of the conference. If I can enlist some help with some friends. It could be a fun project.afro
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Hello,hiapplause That's a great idea. Maybe you could get George Knapp to cover, too. Thanks for lurking.
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I really haven't been lurking that much the past month and a half I've had some personal issues and have been dealing with a lot. I don't want to get into it but not to worry. I can't spend a lot of time. I love you guys. Sorry I'm not contributing as much I will try to put more time in.
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Happy Thanksgiving to Nin and all the sun watchers! :)
Perfer et Obdura;Dolor hic tibi proderit olim.Fortes Fortuna Iuvat! (Be Patient & Strong; someday this pain will be useful to you. Fortune favors the brave)
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X 18 class flare to strike Earth tonight

Scientists expect it to trigger one of the most violent geomagnetic storms ever recorded.

The result could be widespread power surges and even blackouts, disrupted TV and mobile phone signals, and broken down communication satellites.

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]
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X 18 class flare to strike Earth tonight

Scientists expect it to trigger one of the most violent geomagnetic storms ever recorded.

The result could be widespread power surges and even blackouts, disrupted TV and mobile phone signals, and broken down communication satellites.

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5971915


palm
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X 18 class flare to strike Earth tonight

Scientists expect it to trigger one of the most violent geomagnetic storms ever recorded.

The result could be widespread power surges and even blackouts, disrupted TV and mobile phone signals, and broken down communication satellites.

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]
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Hum WTF?!!! Did we miss something?! Hello! Suntards Activate!!!
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They are already out of power
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Doesn't look serious on the model...
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
I'm confused....
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bump
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X 18 class flare to strike Earth tonight

Scientists expect it to trigger one of the most violent geomagnetic storms ever recorded.

The result could be widespread power surges and even blackouts, disrupted TV and mobile phone signals, and broken down communication satellites.

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5971915

Hum WTF?!!! Did we miss something?! Hello! Suntards Activate!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1620138


The solar flare that caused the eruption burst out of a sunspot at 10.54am yesterday.

A huge mass of electrically-charged particles thrown out by a gigantic eruption on the Sun is due to strike the Earth tonight.
 Quoting: d.mail


to quick?
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Carrington was 18 hours if it is that quick we are indeed screwed hard!!
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Carrington was 18 hours if it is that quick we are indeed screwed hard!!
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good point rockon
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Doesn't look like a direct hit on Earth.. we seem to be right on the outskirts of the main part..
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Doesn't look like a direct hit on Earth.. we seem to be right on the outskirts of the main part..
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thanx ac

anyone confirming ?
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sooo this is false or what?





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