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Vita User ID: 1334864 Netherlands 12/09/2011 03:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here some geo.storm is expected. [link to www.tesis.lebedev.ru] |
Hugh M Eye User ID: 6850037 United States 12/09/2011 06:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I still haven't figured out how they attempt to predict geo-magnetic storms so far in advance. They don't mention what criteria are used for these predictions. Well they seem to think things will be interesting the week after Xmas....we'll see. SDO/Solarsoft movie of the C3.1 from region 1374 with some beautiful ejecta. [link to sdowww.lmsal.com] Did you know prominences and filaments are really the same thing? [link to solar.physics.montana.edu] |
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NiNzrez (OP) User ID: 6459914 United States 12/09/2011 10:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | heyy everyone i just got my internet on at the new place it about took for ever thanks to everyone who's been posting and keeping the thread alive with all the great info it might take me forever and a day to read everything i have missed but i will sure try ^^ i missed you guys! Join Me On The GLP SOLAR WATCH Thread Thread: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily) |
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Vesper33 User ID: 5245441 United States 12/09/2011 10:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You have been really missed by so many people. Glad you got moved and everything hooked up for internet. The thread is not same without you!! Perfer et Obdura;Dolor hic tibi proderit olim.Fortes Fortuna Iuvat! (Be Patient & Strong; someday this pain will be useful to you. Fortune favors the brave) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6842155 United States 12/09/2011 11:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Field and the interplanetary magnetic field (8.2=8.2) Other than realizing this exposes us to a relatively high (right now) max solar wind/proton bombardment. I have Never seen this and wanted to see if any of you have...thanks [link to spaceweather.com] |
Hugh M Eye User ID: 6850037 United States 12/09/2011 11:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | heyy everyone Quoting: NiNzrez i just got my internet on at the new place it about took for ever thanks to everyone who's been posting and keeping the thread alive with all the great info it might take me forever and a day to read everything i have missed but i will sure try ^^ i missed you guys! Welcome home, NINzrez! It's a relief to see you here tonight, many folks were getting worried about ya. The sun's been on strike until you come back, haha. |
Southern OR User ID: 2183660 United States 12/10/2011 01:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Welcome Home Nin! I don't post much, just read. I am learning though and appreciate the group effort. "Well-behaved women seldom make history." —Laurel Thatcher Ulrich I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something. And I will not let what I cannot do interfere with what I can do. ~Edward Everett Hale |
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Nacht im Walde User ID: 6871463 Germany 12/10/2011 08:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | a pretty spectacular eruption from 1374: (almost looks like a slow mo shot in between, and note that the plasma before the end actually is repelled from the sun again! Hard to explain with only gravity!) anyone else been noticing that filaments seem to show up more often lately? Last Edited by Nacht im Walde on 12/10/2011 08:18 AM We don't see things as they are, we see things as we are. - Anais Nin |
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aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom 12/10/2011 10:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | FACT: Less than 40% of the world's population would die following a Carrington type event, however 90+% of the western world would perrish. Thread: FACT: Less than 40% of the world's population would die following a Carrington type event, however 90+% of the western world would perrish. floating around that and it does not feel wrong at this moment |
learner User ID: 6656225 United States 12/10/2011 10:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | amid all the low solar activity, the earth's magfield has been doing some very weird stuff: ever since 11.20 we've been in a protracted chaotic rhythm (means the daily .1% normal variation is largely gone). The over all activity is nearly 2X normal, but behaving in a way that doesn't seem to register on the K index (which is just an algorithm that looks for particular behavior). and ever since 12.05 the over all amplitudes in every vector direction is way up and doesn't look like it's coming down any time soon. if you look at the most recent data, you can actually see an effect that must be caused by the lunar eclipse: nothing else seems to be changing... all the indicies (well: Russian and HAARP) made a jump. we'll have to see if they come down as the eclipse passes. if any of you guys have other real time geomag feed access, i'd love to know if they also show this activity. Try and look at the data over at least a month.... and finally: the cosmic ray count continues to slowly rise... which it should not be doing. it's supposed to fall during a solar summer. and also, i just noticed a daily rhythm in the particle count! this rhythm is reflected in all the stations. so we got a diurnal rhythm in both the geomagfield (roughly .1%) and the cosmic ray count (2% ish). i wonder what the phase relationship between these cycles are....? all i seem to ever find are more questions..... |
Hugh M Eye User ID: 6914525 United States 12/10/2011 09:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The sun has been exceedingly quiescent of late. Only 10 C-flares total in the past 5+ days. Eight of the ten have been from two newest regions 1374 & 1375. All this lack of activity with 12 NOAA active regions on the disk! The sun seems hypnotized or in deep meditation. [link to www.solarmonitor.org] There's still several filaments to keep an eye on: [link to halpha.nso.edu] |
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aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom 12/10/2011 10:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so we got a diurnal rhythm in both the geomagfield (roughly .1%) and the cosmic ray count (2% ish). Quoting: learnerif the geomagfield rhythm manifests a terrestrial lightening rhythm it would link the gamma rhythm a rhythm within slowly increasing global lightening would give you: and finally: the cosmic ray count continues to slowly rise... which it should not be doing. it's supposed to fall during a solar summer. Quoting: learnera slowly increasing gamma ray count |
Professor Mobiius User ID: 1324715 United States 12/10/2011 10:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | amid all the low solar activity, the earth's magfield has been doing some very weird stuff: Quoting: learner 6656225 ever since 11.20 we've been in a protracted chaotic rhythm (means the daily .1% normal variation is largely gone). The over all activity is nearly 2X normal, but behaving in a way that doesn't seem to register on the K index (which is just an algorithm that looks for particular behavior). and ever since 12.05 the over all amplitudes in every vector direction is way up and doesn't look like it's coming down any time soon. if you look at the most recent data, you can actually see an effect that must be caused by the lunar eclipse: nothing else seems to be changing... all the indicies (well: Russian and HAARP) made a jump. we'll have to see if they come down as the eclipse passes. if any of you guys have other real time geomag feed access, i'd love to know if they also show this activity. Try and look at the data over at least a month.... and finally: the cosmic ray count continues to slowly rise... which it should not be doing. it's supposed to fall during a solar summer. and also, i just noticed a daily rhythm in the particle count! this rhythm is reflected in all the stations. so we got a diurnal rhythm in both the geomagfield (roughly .1%) and the cosmic ray count (2% ish). i wonder what the phase relationship between these cycles are....? all i seem to ever find are more questions..... and finally: the cosmic ray count continues to slowly rise... which it should not be doing. it's supposed to fall during a solar summer. and also, i just noticed a daily rhythm in the particle count! this rhythm is reflected in all the stations. so we got a diurnal rhythm in both the geomagfield (roughly .1%) and the cosmic ray count (2% ish). i wonder what the phase relationship between these cycles are....? No one will figure it out - because much of science is all wrong - carefully wrong - To be able to understand why, and what, etc... is too far from what is currently accepted... and still actively rooted out of the mainstream scientific community... It took me awhile to realize that I can't just show or tell anyone what is going on, as it is too far to leap for them... even my hints are graciously ignored... (additionally this forum is not a place to exchange ideas etc...it is carefully and tightly managed and controlled, for specific reasons...) you say you are a learner - have you figured out that much of the solar activity is focused in one way or another on a particular region of the Earth? Do you understand why so many Earth-bound CME's -- that should cause more damage, etc... rarely do anything of the sort? Have you figured out what it is these CMEs are doing instead? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1301383 United States 12/10/2011 11:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | even my hints are graciously ignored... (additionally this forum is not a place to exchange ideas etc...it is carefully and tightly managed and controlled, for specific reasons...) Quoting: Professor Mobiius 1324715 you say you are a learner - have you figured out that much of the solar activity is focused in one way or another on a particular region of the Earth? Do you understand why so many Earth-bound CME's -- that should cause more damage, etc... rarely do anything of the sort? Have you figured out what it is these CMEs are doing instead? Interesting post Professor. As much as I would dearly love to hear a explaination, you are right, I doubt I would even begin to understand. I am very curious about all three of the above statements? |
WildStyle User ID: 6918342 Thailand 12/10/2011 11:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | and finally: the cosmic ray count continues to slowly rise... which it should not be doing. it's supposed to fall during a solar summer. Quoting: Professor Mobiius 1324715 and also, i just noticed a daily rhythm in the particle count! this rhythm is reflected in all the stations. so we got a diurnal rhythm in both the geomagfield (roughly .1%) and the cosmic ray count (2% ish). i wonder what the phase relationship between these cycles are....? No one will figure it out - because much of science is all wrong - carefully wrong - To be able to understand why, and what, etc... is too far from what is currently accepted... and still actively rooted out of the mainstream scientific community... It took me awhile to realize that I can't just show or tell anyone what is going on, as it is too far to leap for them... even my hints are graciously ignored... (additionally this forum is not a place to exchange ideas etc...it is carefully and tightly managed and controlled, for specific reasons...) you say you are a learner - have you figured out that much of the solar activity is focused in one way or another on a particular region of the Earth? Do you understand why so many Earth-bound CME's -- that should cause more damage, etc... rarely do anything of the sort? Have you figured out what it is these CMEs are doing instead? All right... so that's an interesting post you've made just there Professor Mobiius.. certainly peaked my interest. Any chance you can elaborate more on your theories or point us to another place where we can understand more? //WildStyle We are all the walking wounded in a world that is a war zone. Everything that we love will be taken from us, everything, last of all life itself. - DK |
Squatting Cat User ID: 1301383 United States 12/10/2011 11:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | and finally: the cosmic ray count continues to slowly rise... which it should not be doing. it's supposed to fall during a solar summer. Quoting: Professor Mobiius 1324715 and also, i just noticed a daily rhythm in the particle count! this rhythm is reflected in all the stations. so we got a diurnal rhythm in both the geomagfield (roughly .1%) and the cosmic ray count (2% ish). i wonder what the phase relationship between these cycles are....? No one will figure it out - because much of science is all wrong - carefully wrong - To be able to understand why, and what, etc... is too far from what is currently accepted... and still actively rooted out of the mainstream scientific community... It took me awhile to realize that I can't just show or tell anyone what is going on, as it is too far to leap for them... even my hints are graciously ignored... (additionally this forum is not a place to exchange ideas etc...it is carefully and tightly managed and controlled, for specific reasons...) you say you are a learner - have you figured out that much of the solar activity is focused in one way or another on a particular region of the Earth? Do you understand why so many Earth-bound CME's -- that should cause more damage, etc... rarely do anything of the sort? Have you figured out what it is these CMEs are doing instead? All right... so that's an interesting post you've made just there Professor Mobiius.. certainly peaked my interest. Any chance you can elaborate more on your theories or point us to another place where we can understand more? //WildStyle Sigh! I don't think we will get an answer, at this moment. Here's a few choices (guesses): 1. Divine intervention. 2. Mankind's interference. 3. Interference from a Being from another planet. 4. Electric Universe Theory. These being the most common GLp choices and pretty much my limitations! Again, sigh! I'll check back, later. Good to see you posting again, Nin! |
Hugh M Eye User ID: 6918679 United States 12/11/2011 12:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | even my hints are graciously ignored... (additionally this forum is not a place to exchange ideas etc...it is carefully and tightly managed and controlled, for specific reasons...) Quoting: Professor Mobiius 1324715 you say you are a learner - have you figured out that much of the solar activity is focused in one way or another on a particular region of the Earth? Do you understand why so many Earth-bound CME's -- that should cause more damage, etc... rarely do anything of the sort? Have you figured out what it is these CMEs are doing instead? Interesting post Professor. As much as I would dearly love to hear a explaination, you are right, I doubt I would even begin to understand. I am very curious about all three of the above statements? Well I'll throw in my 2 cents real quick. I can't speak to the first point really, but I have seen no place else that's a freer place to exchange ideas. I've seen some pretty wacky stuff here, LOL. Secondly, the solar activity is "focused" toward the magnetic poles-actually the auroral zones to be specific. That's just how the magnetosphere works. [link to www.phy6.org] Thirdly, we haven't had many Earth-bound CMEs recently. Even the big auroral event Oct. 24 was a side-swipe which was largely unpredicted. We've been pointing out how most all of the big CMEs have been on the far-side or pointing 90 degree away from Earth. And they SHOULDN'T be causing any damage normall-just pretty auroras. The Earth's magnetosphere repels the solar wind effects in most cases. Rare, strong events can compress the magnetosphere to the point where satellites could be damaged. And VERY rare, very strong events could cause power blackouts (maybe once or twice a decade). Extremely rare solar mega-storms (a la Carrington Event) could cause severe damage to both satellites and power grids--possibly with devastating side-effects(like Fukushima). Fortunately, these only happen every 75-100 years or more (we really don't know). [link to news.nationalgeographic.com] |
Hugh M Eye User ID: 6918679 United States 12/11/2011 12:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Old SOL is really in a batting slump. Look at this 27 rotation chart. Two rotations ago we had 10 M1 or stronger flares, and the last rotation only 4. We've had no M or X flares since Nov. 15th. This level of activity is puzzling to me since we've had increase in the number of sunspots-including a number of very large active regions. [link to translate.google.de] Here's a still from yesterday's picturesque C-flare from 1374: :shroom1209: |
Professor Mobiius User ID: 1324715 United States 12/11/2011 01:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | even my hints are graciously ignored... (additionally this forum is not a place to exchange ideas etc...it is carefully and tightly managed and controlled, for specific reasons...) Quoting: Professor Mobiius 1324715 you say you are a learner - have you figured out that much of the solar activity is focused in one way or another on a particular region of the Earth? Do you understand why so many Earth-bound CME's -- that should cause more damage, etc... rarely do anything of the sort? Have you figured out what it is these CMEs are doing instead? Interesting post Professor. As much as I would dearly love to hear a explaination, you are right, I doubt I would even begin to understand. I am very curious about all three of the above statements? have you figured out that much of the solar activity is focused in one way or another on a particular region of the Earth? The most active flare (and other) producing regions seem to come from only a few active spots... I can't recall the numbers right now... Why? Why are they not even slightly more randomly placed? Hypothetically - the spot that is producing the flare is tied to a region on Earth... a specific region/hemisphere/side etc... Do you understand why so many Earth-bound CME's -- that should cause more damage, etc... rarely do anything of the sort? How can so many major flares and CME's fire off at the Earth and have what seems like little or no impact at all - and this has been going on for almost a year now? Someone mentioned Electric Universe Theory and this is part of this; still - that is a lot of energy thrown at the planet -- where is it going? One part is to boost the proton levels, the other is to feed the magnetosphere...but the bulk of it is still unaccounted for....? Have you figured out what it is these CMEs are doing instead? Things are not what they seem - there is a question hidden here - why is it that solar and cosmic events no longer act in the ways that they did before? Lets assume the Universe, or at least locally, is electrically oriented... Stars - and the Sun and planets run on some type of current (though, better to not equate this with human electrical systems) that runs through this system... So you have stars - that are connected via some sort of power ...and there are many, just in this galaxy... Now - here is a circuit board, and a microchip... power runs through lines to logic gates or is stored in a matrix - memory...etc.. Given the size of just this galaxy, the time-spans and more - especially if you understand that the Speed of Light is not fixed or constant (this from GRB research among other things)... Perhaps the posibility that the Sun and the Stars and the Galaxy are - not what you think they are or have be told... I am only using the computer analogy because it is familiar to most everyone here.... Something to ponder... ;) |
Professor Mobiius User ID: 1324715 United States 12/11/2011 01:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What's this? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1087542 [link to helios.izmiran.rssi.ru] Cosmic rays way up over the last several days. Anyone know what to make of this? Trouble? So - here is the Earth... Even one direct impact? From how many lightyears away? Here is a tiny mote - and here are Stars that are very very far away --- one hit, okay Two? Sure... or not... this is not random. |