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Anonymous Coward User ID: 6321040 United States 12/16/2011 01:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | okay so what do we know Quoting: aether lovejoy obit is a somewhere within 200 years it`s charge effect subdued our suns charged effects is that because they are of the same charge? is our sun showing the effect of a close encounter with a object of similar charge as in: it flat lines? lovejoy is not a dirty snowball i agree! Can anyone explain the Neutron Monitor spike so intense on Solarimg.Tesis ? I don't think this is normal. |
aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom 12/16/2011 02:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | okay so what do we know Quoting: aether lovejoy obit is a somewhere within 200 years it`s charge effect subdued our suns charged effects is that because they are of the same charge? is our sun showing the effect of a close encounter with a object of similar charge as in: it flat lines? lovejoy is not a dirty snowball well as like charges repel can we say lovejoy on it`s up to 200 year approx became opposite charge to the sun outside of our solar system thus lovejoy and our sun attracted each other in being attracted to each other our sun flat lining could be a consequence of the attraction effect So. When two charges are close enough to each other, their fields will interact. Two of opposite charge will neutralize the field in between the charges resulting in a net "external pressure" pushing them together. Two like charges will instead add more stress to the field in between them resulting in a net "internal pressure" pushing them apart. Quoting: observationit`s field our sun`s flatlined because it`s field(s) have been effected If comets are the remains of electrical events that took place early in the life of the Solar System, then their "anomalous" behavior can be easily explained. Since there is a radial electric field from the Sun permeating the Solar System, as comets come closer to its greater charge density they experience a breakdown in their electrical equilibrium and begin to glow. The charged material, or plasma sheath, surrounding the cometary nucleus is accelerated out and away, sometimes forming a tail millions of kilometers long. Quoting: observationThe increased electric charge that comets accumulate as they near the Sun is demonstrated by sungrazers. Since the Sun's e-field is a dynamic structure, it changes in strength and size depending on the electric currents flowing into it from the galaxy. [link to thunderbolts.info] flatline = suns dynamic e field structure effected we will hear explanation from our good and the great soon i imagine Last Edited by aether on 12/16/2011 02:06 PM |
aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom 12/16/2011 02:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if lovejoy has lost it`s tail in the close encounter i imagine that confirms : lovejoy destabilized upon approach, thus formed tail, then stabilized once close encounter too place it`s charge stabilized because it is the same nature as our suns thus it leaves with no destabilized effects (tail) or is that to simple ??? Last Edited by aether on 12/16/2011 02:19 PM |
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Hugh M Eye User ID: 7233926 United States 12/16/2011 04:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Planetary (and cometary) alignments are only important to astrology NOT astronomy. Except for the sun and the moon (due to its proximity and the fact it orbits Earth), no planets', comets', or asteroids' "alignment" have any cataclysmic effects on the Earth (unless there's a direct impact). I thought the whole Elenin thing had been finally put to rest, but some folks never give up. I don't work for NASA or the Illuminati (I'm unemployed,lol) and I don't relish the task of debunking anything or anyone. However, I feel duty-bound to respond to dis-information and bogus scientific fear-mongering. People have DIED due to believing in wild claims without clear-thinking investigation (just google "Heaven's Gate"). I don't have the will to drone on and on about this--just question weird claims and demand solid proof before you give away your possessions, move to the mountaintops or make an ass of yourself on talk radio. Nuff said. Check out what happened during the "Grand Alignment of 1982": [link to en.wikipedia.org] Top ten fails-#s 2,3,4 & 5 are astronomically instructive. [link to listverse.com] More on the 1982 alignment w/charts. [link to www.icr.org] [link to cometography.com] [link to www.badastronomy.com] Scientific speculation, debate, and discussion is always to be encouraged; however prepare to be challenged on the facts. :brainpatterns: |
FraudulentZodiac User ID: 1495305 United States 12/16/2011 06:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | okay so what do we know Quoting: aether lovejoy obit is a somewhere within 200 years it`s charge effect subdued our suns charged effects is that because they are of the same charge? is our sun showing the effect of a close encounter with a object of similar charge as in: it flat lines? lovejoy is not a dirty snowball i agree! Can anyone explain the Neutron Monitor spike so intense on Solarimg.Tesis ? I don't think this is normal. I was hoping this would be addressed as well. You guys know anything about this? Extremely high Neutrino count: [link to helios.izmiran.rssi.ru] Extremely quiet sun: [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] "All energy flows according to the whims of the Great Magnet" - Hunter S. Thompson "None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe We are all just ins inside the out, and outs inside the ins. |
aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom 12/16/2011 06:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if lovejoy has lost it`s tail in the close encounter i imagine that confirms : Quoting: aether lovejoy destabilized upon approach, thus formed tail, then stabilized once close encounter too place it`s charge stabilized because it is the same nature as our suns thus it leaves with no destabilized effects (tail) or is that to simple ??? Thread: Comet Lovejoy survives perihelion! (Page 10) okay what is that telling us there is a close proximity zone of charge equilibrium as in: both stable or so fucking hot up close tail vaporizes feels like vaporize a vaporize zone for the tail seems most likely comet remains destabilized but not sufficiently to cause break up and the f... never melted LOL love it Last Edited by aether on 12/16/2011 06:23 PM |
aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom 12/16/2011 06:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | okay so what do we know Quoting: aether lovejoy obit is a somewhere within 200 years it`s charge effect subdued our suns charged effects is that because they are of the same charge? is our sun showing the effect of a close encounter with a object of similar charge as in: it flat lines? lovejoy is not a dirty snowball i agree! Can anyone explain the Neutron Monitor spike so intense on Solarimg.Tesis ? I don't think this is normal. I was hoping this would be addressed as well. You guys know anything about this? Extremely high Neutrino count: [link to helios.izmiran.rssi.ru] Extremely quiet sun: [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] i imagine these are consequences of lovejoys effect on our suns dynamic e field as in: love joys field interacted with our suns field thus our suns overall mechanism reacted to the close contact and you are seeing the results |
tomasgod1 User ID: 4888469 United States 12/16/2011 07:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hi Hugh, Quoting: IwantToBelieve76 thats crazy rly...maybe the sun inhales and soon....^^ we will get some effects next days from the coronal hole but nothing else so far Lovejoy builds a new tail and his old tail still visible :CometLovejoynewa: Enlarge: [link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov] Incoming! Hey there Look-n! _______ Blog [link to mysolaralerts.blogspot.com] YouTube Channel [link to www.youtube.com] "Give me Liberty, or give me Death!" FOUNDING FATHER, Patrick Henry (May 29, 1736 – June 6, 1799) |
Hugh M Eye User ID: 7253671 United States 12/17/2011 12:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | First C-flare in almost 48 hours! Flare came from region 1376. [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] [link to halpha.nso.edu] Comet Lovejoy now display another ion tail as well as a dust tail. They say it's the first SOHO ion-tail comet ever. remarkable. :lovejoy1217: Yesterday's (?) CME is visible on STEREO A HI 2 movie. I think this stuff is supposed to miss Earth--it looks pretty dense. [link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov] |
Hugh M Eye User ID: 7253671 United States 12/17/2011 01:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] Check magnetosphere simulation in about an hour from now. [link to www2.nict.go.jp] |
Hugh M Eye User ID: 7253671 United States 12/17/2011 01:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Comet Lovejoy's discoverer Terry Lovejoy has imaged the comet in daylight with a telescope.-- I have just successfully imaged 2011 W3 during the daytime. Using a C8 stopped down with a 2" opening and hood (to reduce sunlight into the sscope) I was able to get images of the comet on individual frames of 1/320sec. Comparision with Venus (assumed mV=-3.9) placed the comet at mV=-1.2. I failed to see the comet visually in the same scope, although I could see Antares. Transparency was fair-good. I am positive a properly prepared observer with excellent transparency would succeed in seeing the comet in daylight. Images to follow. Terry [link to tech.groups.yahoo.com] [link to twitter.com] [link to www.youtube.com] |
Hugh M Eye User ID: 7253671 United States 12/17/2011 01:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | and another one I call "LOVEJOY GETS A HOT_FOOT" From Stereo B EUVI: [link to sungrazer.nrl.navy.mil] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1297814 Germany 12/17/2011 05:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | GoodMorning all, Sunspot Update :NewspotsDec17: SDO/HMI Quick-Look Continuum See also latest SDO AIA 304 Fulldisc [link to helioviewer.org] New region 1378 (circled)emerged yesterday as a DSO type group with a size of 40 millionths The largest group is 1374 which is also a DSO type group at 100 millionths No C class solar flares took place yesterday, however, this morning peaking at 0501z a C1 solar flare took place from region 1377. Only the occasional C class solar flare is expected today [link to www.tesis.lebedev.ru] :LovejoyGifDec17: Latest Lasco C3 Movie Helioviewer! [link to helioviewer.org] JPL Small-Body Database Browser C/2011 W3 (Lovejoy) [link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov] Update Region 1377 CloseUp SDO AIA 304 Helioviewer [link to helioviewer.org] |
aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom 12/17/2011 07:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if lovejoy has lost it`s tail in the close encounter i imagine that confirms : Quoting: aether lovejoy destabilized upon approach, thus formed tail, then stabilized once close encounter too place it`s charge stabilized because it is the same nature as our suns thus it leaves with no destabilized effects (tail) or is that to simple ??? Thread: Comet Lovejoy survives perihelion! (Page 10) okay what is that telling us there is a close proximity zone of charge equilibrium as in: both stable or so fucking hot up close tail vaporizes feels like vaporize a vaporize zone for the tail seems most likely comet remains destabilized but not sufficiently to cause break up and the f... never melted LOL love it it still leaves the question of where the tail went as it got close to the corona. Since the shape of the coma and tail is dictated by electric fields, is it possible that the tail actually remained but just took on a different shape that we don't recognise as a tail? And could this tell us any more about the electrical environment of the corona or fields near to the Sun's surface? Quoting: observationgood point so what i am seeing that tells me evaporation as in disappears cause by sun effect on comet okay same visuals different words the effect of our sun at close encounter caused the comet tail to become invisible as in it altered lovejoys electric field and switched the tail effect of yes our suns e field overwhelmed lovejoys e field at close proximity |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1297814 Germany 12/17/2011 09:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One to the north west: :Prominenceliftof: Helioviewer SDO AIA 304 (closeUp) shows it up: [link to helioviewer.org] and the other one on the east side: :eastsideliffoffd: Helioviewer SDO AIA 304(closeUp) shows it up: [link to helioviewer.org] the lift off in the north produce a cme :stereobdec171200: Latest Stere B C2 Movie: [link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov] :cmestereoadec161: Latest Stereo A C2 Movie: [link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov] |
learner User ID: 6656225 United States 12/17/2011 10:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | okay so what do we know Quoting: aether lovejoy obit is a somewhere within 200 years it`s charge effect subdued our suns charged effects is that because they are of the same charge? is our sun showing the effect of a close encounter with a object of similar charge as in: it flat lines? lovejoy is not a dirty snowball well as like charges repel can we say lovejoy on it`s up to 200 year approx became opposite charge to the sun outside of our solar system thus lovejoy and our sun attracted each other in being attracted to each other our sun flat lining could be a consequence of the attraction effect So. When two charges are close enough to each other, their fields will interact. Two of opposite charge will neutralize the field in between the charges resulting in a net "external pressure" pushing them together. Two like charges will instead add more stress to the field in between them resulting in a net "internal pressure" pushing them apart. Quoting: observationit`s field our sun`s flatlined because it`s field(s) have been effected ..affected only partially by interaction with comet? without knowing/understanding the other interactions that the sun was engaged in during the comet pass, we can not say anything definitive about the singular interaction between sun and solar surfer comet. -definitely minus points for the 'dirty iceball' hypothesis- |
learner User ID: 6656225 United States 12/17/2011 10:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if lovejoy has lost it`s tail in the close encounter i imagine that confirms : Quoting: aether lovejoy destabilized upon approach, thus formed tail, then stabilized once close encounter too place it`s charge stabilized because it is the same nature as our suns thus it leaves with no destabilized effects (tail) or is that to simple ??? what is stable? i think it's more likely that the solar and comet charges are opposite. Tails are acquired ionic particles of opposing charge. i betcha the Solar Surfer leaves with more mass than it arrived with. too bad there's really no way to know that for sure. |
learner User ID: 6656225 United States 12/17/2011 10:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | and now on to the terrestrial magfield report. i remain confused with the HAARP magnetic data. Rescaling the time axis drastically changes the magnitude data. i can figure no reason except: they are re-normalizing for the time period. Just as in cosmic ray data, there is no true 'zero'. They pick some value and measure the variation around that: either calling it more or less than 100% or plus or minus 0%. same dif. so with the HAARP data, i think they pick new 'zeros' for each time span. That's why the monthly chart shows such large deviations compared with the weekly or daily... or something. in any case, i'm going with the monthly charts... and according to that, we are still doing some weirdness. As i said before on or very near 11.20 the earth rang hard and all the polarities shifted (by almost 1% of total field) and hung out there till roughly 12.2, where we rang again and shifted back to normal, but at a very high level..higher than normal anyway (this is only visible on the monthly chart BTW). I've uploaded a composite image of three charts: HAARP mag field data, Russian cosmic ray data, and Oulu cosmic ray data. here: [link to www.bigupload.com] a few things to notice: -the magfield 'ringing' we felt on 12.2 is clearly reflected in both cosmic ray count (i've aligned the charts for easy viewing). - ever since 12.2 our daily magfield 'rhythm' is back, but at much higher amplitudes. -the cosmic ray count suddenly shows a very strong diurnal component up until 12.12 and then begins a rapis increase over the next coupla days... comet approaching? - and finally, on 12.4 Mercury was between us and the sun i have no idea what any of this means. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1297814 Germany 12/17/2011 12:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.youtube.com] and a closeup of the east one [link to www.youtube.com] |
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Hugh M Eye User ID: 7287115 United States 12/17/2011 04:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | SolarWatch--ProminenceLiftOFF;FARSIDE CME;SunspotUpdate--12/17/11 Quoting: IwantToBelieve76 [link to www.youtube.com] and a closeup of the east one [link to www.youtube.com] Hail, fellow suntards. Great work IWTB on the videos. I don't mean to nitpick but the lonely C1.2 flare was from 1376 to the north. [link to www.lmsal.com] We should see more flaring soon as more active regions are popping up in the southern hemisphere and two more in the north should be rising over the limb in the next day or three. The region coming over the southeast limb (seen near that prominence in the video) looks to be producing some flares. :2new: More research and analysis needs to be done on the sun's strange zig-zag effect on the comet's tail. :EUVI_B: As noted on the Sungrazer update page, this behavior is still unexplained-- "This one is a short animation of four frames from the STEREO-B EUVI instrument at the 171-angstrom wavelength (corresponding to about 1.5million degrees, I believe). The comet is clearly visible racing away from the Sun, leaving a wiggly-tail in its wake! Why the wiggles? We're not sure -- we need to start studying that when we get all of the spacecraft data from STEREO-B this weekend. However, we think there may some kind of helical motion going on, or perhaps there's a projection affect and we're seeing tail material magnetically "clinging" to coronal loops and moving with them. There are other possibilities too, though, and we will certainly investigate those! We should have equivalent images from the STEREO-A spacecraft which we will also get this weekend. When we pair these together, and throw in the SDO images too, we should be able to get an incredibly unique 3-D picture of how this comet is reacting the the intense coronal heat and magnetic loops. We really are going to learn a lot here." Hi, Shenuee & aether! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1297814 Germany 12/17/2011 05:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hi hugh and all, haha np, yep saw it..grr was first given as 1377... Well, this happens if you want to early^^ so what, shit happens Some offtopic maybe...^^ I made some christmas gifts last days and will place them here on dec24...one for our solen queen NINzrez and...surprise..hehe Latest LASCO C3 Helioviewer CloseUp from our friend...: [link to helioviewer.org] seems he has now 2 tails... Stereo A HI1 [link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov] Czech astronomer Jan Ebr captured this image at sunrise on Dec. 17th :lovejoydec17from: [link to www.spaceweather.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1297814 Germany 12/17/2011 06:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | C 3.2 took place [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] I will risk it^^ from Region 1376 :c3flaredec17: [link to lasp.colorado.edu] :SDOdec17C3Flare: 2011/12/17 22:47:00 22:58:00 22:55:00 C3.2 N19W02 ( 1376 ) [link to www.lmsal.com] and we have another c flare C 1.2 from the new region south east..sdo shows it up will upload a img [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] LMSAL now: 2011/12/17 23:37:00 23:49:00 23:44:00 C1.2 S19E38 [link to www.lmsal.com] Edit got it: :FlareC1newregion: |
Hugh M Eye User ID: 7287115 United States 12/17/2011 10:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Excellent, IWTB! Now one more flare from 1376-C1.9--she's heating up. 1376/1377 region is directly Earth-facing for the next few days. We haven't had an M-flare for over a month so we're overdue for some strong activity. Here's an SDO/Solarsoft movie of the C3.2: [link to sdowww.lmsal.com] Where is that NINzrez anyhoo??? |
Hugh M Eye User ID: 7287115 United States 12/18/2011 01:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A nice prominence was seen on the southeast limb. :cme1218: Have yet to see any evidence of a CME. The newest region on the southeast limb did produce a C1.8 flare. [link to www.lmsal.com] Geospace is extremely quiet and the solar wind very slow at 247 km/s. |
Hugh M Eye User ID: 7287115 United States 12/18/2011 02:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A nice prominence was seen on the southeast limb. Quoting: Hugh M Eye :cme1218: Have yet to see any evidence of a CME. The newest region on the southeast limb did produce a C1.8 flare. [link to www.lmsal.com] Geospace is extremely quiet and the solar wind very slow at 247 km/s. I must get some sleep now, but I want to be the first to congratulate NINzrez on 500 pages for the SOLAR WATCH thread. :500pages: THANK YOU, NIN, AND CONGRATULATIONS ON 500 FUN & INFORMATIVE PAGES! |
Hugh M Eye User ID: 7287115 United States 12/18/2011 02:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A nice prominence was seen on the southeast limb. Quoting: Hugh M Eye :cme1218: Have yet to see any evidence of a CME. The newest region on the southeast limb did produce a C1.8 flare. [link to www.lmsal.com] Geospace is extremely quiet and the solar wind very slow at 247 km/s. I must get some sleep now, but I want to be the first to congratulate NINzrez on 500 pages for the SOLAR WATCH thread. :500pages: THANK YOU, NIN, AND CONGRATULATIONS ON 500 FUN & INFORMATIVE PAGES! ::chorus: |