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SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily)

 
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Ninz check inbox, plz

I see you are online...^^
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Ninz check inbox, plz

I see you are online...^^
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im almost always shown as online, even when i am not
this is because i keep the GLP tab open almost all the time and I never log out
the only time im logged out is when glp auto logs me out
im home now and will check things out :)
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CME eruption seen on SOHO cor 2. Not sure exactly what happened but it may be related to a filament eruption on the western limb. Seeking more info....

[link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
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CME eruption seen on SOHO cor 2. Not sure exactly what happened but it may be related to a filament eruption on the western limb. Seeking more info....

[link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
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Newer, nicer, bigger pic:

[link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]
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hey fringe, look what just arose as i am going to bed

The role of the global electric circuit in solar and internal forcing of clouds and climate

Reports of a variety of short-term meteorological responses to changes in the global electric circuit associated with a set of disparate inputs are analyzed. The meteorological responses consist of changes in cloud cover, atmospheric temperature, pressure, or dynamics. All of these are found to be responding to changes in a key linking agent, that of the downward current density, Jz, that flows from the ionosphere through the troposphere to the surface (ocean and land). As it flows through layer clouds, Jz generates space charge in conductivity gradients at the upper and lower boundaries, and this electrical charge is capable of affecting the microphysical interactions between droplets and both ice-forming nuclei and condensation nuclei..................
 Quoting: abstract

[link to www.sciencedirect.com]

i have never heard of our global electric circuit before this moment and although it does not tell in this study i am advised it is the same strength all around our planet filling the atmosphere between the ground and our ionosphere but it rises and falls in strength in synchronization to our suns position overhead in instant time, just as gravity must do

in other words it must be formed/effected by radiated electricity from our sun and that electrical effect must reach and effect earth at the same time as it is caused upon our sun

no 8 mins light speed, instantaneous superluminal velocity

well, what a nice day
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so you know rockon

happy new year 1rof1
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Top Celestial Events for 2012:

[link to www.space.com]

Internet Solar Telescope in Stockton, CA:

[link to eyes-on-the-skies.org]

Internet user-interfaced telescope:

[link to bishop.astro.pomona.edu]

spock
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SIDC - RWC BELGIUM 02 Jan 2012, 1204UT

Solar activity is expected to be eruptive within the next 24 hours, with high chances for C-flares, and a slight chance for an M-flare. The main region producing flares is NOAA AR 11389, which has produced a few C flares in the past 24 hours. The partial halo CME detected first by LASCO C2 on January 1, 13:36 UT was a backsided event, and is not expected to be geo-effective. Geomagnetic conditions are expected to remain mostly quiet during the coming days, with possible effects from a coronal hole high speed wind stream.

[link to sidc.oma.be]


ISWACygnetStreamer

[link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080]
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:Sunspotjan2:
Sunspots today and the increasing Region 1389


Region 1384 rotated over the north-east limb yesterday and also Region 1390 decayed and disappeared

So only three regions remain, the largest is 1389 at 420 millionths and is a FKO type group

The other two regions are H type groups now

Over recent hours a multi-spot region as emerged in the northern hemisphere


There is also a region looks like it could rotate over the north-east limb very soon

:sdolargenewspotj:
New spot north-east
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i like this music



and

SUDDEN IONOSPHERIC DISTURBANCE: Today around 1320 UT, a wave of ionization swept through the high atmosphere over Europe after sunspot AR1389 unleashed another M2-class solar flare. "There was a very clear sudden ionospheric disturbance on my VLF radio instruments," reports Rob Stammes, who sends these data from the Polar Light Center in Lofoten, Norway:
"The sun is below the horizon where we are located north of the Arctic Circle," says Stammes. "This event shows we still have some contact with the sun."
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yep but a bit late aether...^^
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yep but a bit late aether...^^
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i know 1rof1

it`s not the event it`s the link to the sun and timing of cause and effect

now listen to this guy especially the last 10 minutes you will LOVE it cheers

i predict

[link to www.livestream.com]
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lol the link to the sun?^^ that vid we was on this in realtimehf
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remember this, something, be it gravity, electric or magnetic fields is NOT taking 8 mins at light speed to connect our planet to our sun because if it did take that long, our orbit was gone before we began to write history
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Okay Kevin(Solarham) reports now:

"This event also produced a short lived 10cm Radio Burst (TenFlare). More information to follow, should any Coronal Mass Ejection (CME) be accompanied with this event."



Tenflare:
A tenflare is associated with optical and x-ray flares. Solar flares emit radiation over a very wide range of frequencies. One of the more significant frequencies observed is the 10.7 cm wavelength band (2695 MHz). When a solar flare erupts, "noise" from the flare is received over this very wide range of frequencies.

When the noise received on the 10.7 cm wavelength band surpasses 100% of the background noise level during a solar flare, a Tenflare is said to be in progress. The more intense solar flares are associated with tenflares. Almost all major flares are associated with tenflares.

Generally, the greater the intensity of the burst of noise observed at the 10.7 cm wavelength band, the more significant the flare is said to be. The duration of the tenflare can also be used to determine the severity of the flare.

Other important flare characteristics are also determined from the radio data observed from flares, which are closely related to the various physical processes which occur in flares. These characteristics are far beyond the scope of this document.
[link to www.sci.fi]
 Quoting: IwantToBelieve76


SUDDEN IONOSPHERIC DISTURBANCE:
Today around 1320 UT, a wave of ionization swept through the high atmosphere over Europe after sunspot AR1389 unleashed another M2-class solar flare. "There was a very clear sudden ionospheric disturbance on my VLF radio instruments," reports Rob Stammes, who sends these data from the Polar Light Center in Lofoten, Norway:


[link to spaceweather.com]
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[link to www.youtube.com]
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Hi IWTB, could you breifly explain what that means for us on earth if anything ? thanks :)
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Okay Kevin(Solarham) reports now:

"This event also produced a short lived 10cm Radio Burst (TenFlare). More information to follow, should any Coronal Mass Ejection (CME) be accompanied with this event."



Tenflare:
A tenflare is associated with optical and x-ray flares. Solar flares emit radiation over a very wide range of frequencies. One of the more significant frequencies observed is the 10.7 cm wavelength band (2695 MHz). When a solar flare erupts, "noise" from the flare is received over this very wide range of frequencies.

When the noise received on the 10.7 cm wavelength band surpasses 100% of the background noise level during a solar flare, a Tenflare is said to be in progress. The more intense solar flares are associated with tenflares. Almost all major flares are associated with tenflares.

Generally, the greater the intensity of the burst of noise observed at the 10.7 cm wavelength band, the more significant the flare is said to be. The duration of the tenflare can also be used to determine the severity of the flare.

Other important flare characteristics are also determined from the radio data observed from flares, which are closely related to the various physical processes which occur in flares. These characteristics are far beyond the scope of this document.
[link to www.sci.fi]
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SUDDEN IONOSPHERIC DISTURBANCE:
Today around 1320 UT, a wave of ionization swept through the high atmosphere over Europe after sunspot AR1389 unleashed another M2-class solar flare. "There was a very clear sudden ionospheric disturbance on my VLF radio instruments," reports Rob Stammes, who sends these data from the Polar Light Center in Lofoten, Norway:


[link to spaceweather.com]
 Quoting: NiNzrez




[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: IwantToBelieve76


good

you know where this is going

as you always did , impressed hugs

and thank you thumbs
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Hi IWTB, could you breifly explain what that means for us on earth if anything ? thanks :)
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A sudden ionospheric disturbance (SID) is an abnormally high ionization/plasma density in the D region of the ionosphere caused by a solar flare. The SID results in a sudden increase in radio-wave absorption that is most severe in the upper medium frequency (MF) and lower high frequency (HF) ranges, and as a result often interrupts or interferes with telecommunications systems.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]


Researchers found that almost all of the earthquakes down to a depth of about 35km were preceded by distinct electrical disturbances in the ionosphere..



The sudden inosperic disturbance was related to a tenflare

Tenflare - A tenflare is associated with optical and x-ray flares. Solar flares emit radiation over a very wide range of frequencies. One of the more significant frequencies observed is the 10.7 cm wavelength band (2695 MHz). When a solar flare erupts, "noise" from the flare is received over this very wide range of frequencies.

When the noise received on the 10.7 cm wavelength band surpasses 100% of the background noise level during a solar flare, a Tenflare is said to be in progress. The more intense solar flares are associated with tenflares. Almost all major flares are associated with tenflares.

Generally, the greater the intensity of the burst of noise observed at the 10.7 cm wavelength band, the more significant the flare is said to be. The duration of the tenflare can also be used to determine the severity of the flare.


If we reach SolarMaximum this will happen a bit more...
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Okay finally some pretty action....



A big eruption took place at the west limb:


:bigerupt1:
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[link to i1220.photobucket.com]


:bigerupt2:
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[link to i1220.photobucket.com]



:bigerupt3:
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[link to i1220.photobucket.com]


and this was the trigger:

2012/01/02 14:31:00 15:24:00 15:00:00 C2.4 N07W89 ( 1384 )
[link to www.lmsal.com]

mid duration C Flare
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]


Latest Helioviewer!



you can clearly see the flare and right after that the eruption
:eruptionheliovan:
Enlarge!:
[link to i1220.photobucket.com]


Region 1384 rly miss us^^



and sure this will be a nice CME...

Stereo Behind:


[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

its building...
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this is soooo weird
information like this just WAS not available but now, it is in wiki!!
actually am i surprised? no


Atmospheric electricity


Atmospheric electricity is the regular diurnal variations of the Earth's atmospheric electromagnetic network or, more broadly, any planet's electrical system in its layer of gases. The Earth's surface, the atmosphere and the ionosphere, together are known as the global atmospheric electrical circuit. Atmospheric electricity is a multidisciplinary topic.

............Most authorities are agreed, however, that whatever may be the origin of free electricity in the atmosphere
, the electricity of enormous voltages that disrupts the air and produces the phenomena of lightning is due to the condensation of the watery vapor forming the clouds; each minute drop, as it moves through the air, collects upon its surface a certain amount of free electricity.
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: aether
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A nice close-up movie of west limb CME:

[link to sdowww.lmsal.com]
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[link to www.youtube.com]


will upload more on this soon...


latest Stereo Behind C2:
[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]


Stereo Behind Movie:
[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
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yep but a bit late aether...^^
 Quoting: IwantToBelieve76


i know 1rof1

it`s not the event it`s the link to the sun and timing of cause and effect

now listen to this guy especially the last 10 minutes you will LOVE it cheers

i predict

[link to www.livestream.com]
 Quoting: aether


lol the link to the sun?^^ that vid we was on this in realtimehf
 Quoting: IwantToBelieve76


link = connection :)
i believe aether was refering to the video of Lance Endersbee speaking that he added in his last post

electric universe 'theory

i have watched another lecture from Lance Endersbee
but have not seen this one aether
thanks for adding it
going to watch this while eating my lunch
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yep but a bit late aether...^^
 Quoting: IwantToBelieve76


i know 1rof1

it`s not the event it`s the link to the sun and timing of cause and effect

now listen to this guy especially the last 10 minutes you will LOVE it cheers

i predict

[link to www.livestream.com]
 Quoting: aether


lol the link to the sun?^^ that vid we was on this in realtimehf
 Quoting: IwantToBelieve76


link = connection :)
i believe aether was refering to the video of Lance Endersbee speaking that he added in his last post

electric universe 'theory

i have watched another lecture from Lance Endersbee
but have not seen this one aether
thanks for adding it
going to watch this while eating my lunch
 Quoting: NiNzrez


spot on nin rockon

What do you want to bet it interacts with us individually just as the sun interacts with us? Form follows function - it would appear there is a continuous chain from univerasal galactic scale to the individual scale.

Nice.
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hold that thought ac because whilst we have this debate with cern, los alamos and nasa have to be careful what they say remembering action over distance is officially not allowed (national security)

thus when los alamos tells us this:

Understanding Solar Wind Structure

Scientist suggests new approach to measuring flow from the sun

“For decades we have been interpreting the spectrum of fluctuations in the solar wind as a measurement of turbulence in the wind. However, it turns out that impurities (discontinuities) in plasma dominate the signal. Hence, the spectrum is not a clean measurement of turbulence, and it may not even be a measurement of turbulence,” Borovsky said. In simpler terms, perhaps, we couldn’t see the forest for the trees.
“Because we might be misunderstanding the solar wind, we might be misunderstanding its impact on the Earth’s environment. Understanding solar wind allows us to understand the initiation and evolution of geomagnetic storms,” said Herbert Funsten, chief scientist for the International, Space & Response Division at Los Alamos.
 Quoting: Science

[link to tri-lab.lanl.gov]

The "spaghetti structure" of the solar-wind plasma reflects the "magnetic carpet" on the surface of the Sun, with the spaghetti in the wind being loose strands of the magnetic carpet

as our awareness restructures we notice that what we exist within alters to reflect our awakening awareness
 Quoting: aether 1187276

Thread: Marko Rodin - Smart Lazer Technology (Page 3)

they can tell us we are joined to the sun (instant) but are not allowed to tell how

similarly when ibex told this a few weeks ago and i did not post it because i never saw how it fitted or more correctly i didn`t get what they were telling in reference to comet lovejoy:

What do you mean by "hit the sun"? We live in the sun already. The comet is "hitting the sun" continuously since about 90 AU out. At it's closest approach it was "hitting" the corona which is a plasma with roughly density of 10^-12 kg per cubic meter. The more difficult question is why some comets disappear (e.g. Elenin), not why they stay.
 Quoting: nasa ibex

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Thread: Marko Rodin - Smart Lazer Technology (Page 238)
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how`s the lightening in your leg?
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how`s the lightening in your leg?
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because associated topics of our past have lite up thus i imagine the connections sync
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Yup solar max is headed our way faster and faster
How can we tell?

Solarmax info:
The Sun has a natural cycle with a period of approximately 11 years. During the lifetime of each cycle, the magnetic field lines of the Sun are dragged around the solar body by differential rotation at the solar equator.
This means that the equator is spinning faster than the magnetic poles. As this continues, solar plasma drags the magnetic field lines around the Sun, causing stress and a build up of energy.
As magnetic energy increases, kinks in the magnetic flux form, forcing them to the surface. These kinks are known as coronal loops which become more numerous during periods of high solar activity

This is where the sunspots come in. As coronal loops continue to pop up over the surface, sunspots appear too, often located at the loop footpoints. Coronal loops have the effect of pushing the hotter surface layers of the Sun (the photosphere and chromosphere) aside, exposing the cooler convection zone (the reasons why the solar surface and atmosphere is hotter than the solar interior is down to the coronal heating phenomenon).
As magnetic energy builds up, we can expect more and more magnetic flux to be forced together. This is when a phenomenon known as magnetic reconnection occurs.
Reconnection is the trigger for solar flares of various sizes.
(this is just one thing we watch for on SDO images for signs of large flares about to occure)

The solar storm works in approximately an 11 year cycle. There is solar minimum (the least amount of solar storm) and solar maximum (the greatest amount).
The last solar cycle 23 had a solar minumus in 1996. the solar maximum for solar cycle 23 was in 2001 (5 years later)
the last solar minimus was in 2006. The next solar max is predicted for 2012 (6 years later)

Coronal Holes at solarmax
At the solar minimum, coronal holes are found mainly at the Sun's polar regions, but can be located anywhere on the sun during solar maximum

Sunspots at solarmax
The number of sunspots and their proximity to the equator of the sun increases as the sunspot cycle progresses toward maximum.

here is a documentary that i watched with my family and they said it helped them to understand a LOT better about what the sun does and how it effects the earth.
hope some of you may enjoy it as much as we did :)


[link to www.youtube.com]

[link to naturalradiolab.com]
[link to www.mayanpredictions.net]
[link to news.discovery.com]
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
[link to www.universetoday.com]

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Yup solar max is headed our way faster and faster
How can we tell?

Solarmax info:
The Sun has a natural cycle with a period of approximately 11 years. During the lifetime of each cycle, the magnetic field lines of the Sun are dragged around the solar body by differential rotation at the solar equator.
This means that the equator is spinning faster than the magnetic poles. As this continues, solar plasma drags the magnetic field lines around the Sun, causing stress and a build up of energy.
As magnetic energy increases, kinks in the magnetic flux form, forcing them to the surface. These kinks are known as coronal loops which become more numerous during periods of high solar activity

This is where the sunspots come in. As coronal loops continue to pop up over the surface, sunspots appear too, often located at the loop footpoints. Coronal loops have the effect of pushing the hotter surface layers of the Sun (the photosphere and chromosphere) aside, exposing the cooler convection zone (the reasons why the solar surface and atmosphere is hotter than the solar interior is down to the coronal heating phenomenon).
As magnetic energy builds up, we can expect more and more magnetic flux to be forced together. This is when a phenomenon known as magnetic reconnection occurs.
Reconnection is the trigger for solar flares of various sizes.
(this is just one thing we watch for on SDO images for signs of large flares about to occure)

The solar storm works in approximately an 11 year cycle. There is solar minimum (the least amount of solar storm) and solar maximum (the greatest amount).
The last solar cycle 23 had a solar minumus in 1996. the solar maximum for solar cycle 23 was in 2001 (5 years later)
the last solar minimus was in 2006. The next solar max is predicted for 2012 (6 years later)

Coronal Holes at solarmax
At the solar minimum, coronal holes are found mainly at the Sun's polar regions, but can be located anywhere on the sun during solar maximum

Sunspots at solarmax
The number of sunspots and their proximity to the equator of the sun increases as the sunspot cycle progresses toward maximum.

here is a documentary that i watched with my family and they said it helped them to understand a LOT better about what the sun does and how it effects the earth.
hope some of you may enjoy it as much as we did :)


[link to www.youtube.com]

[link to naturalradiolab.com]
[link to www.mayanpredictions.net]
[link to news.discovery.com]
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
[link to www.universetoday.com]
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and saved...

Goofy Thum
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how`s the lightening in your leg?
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because associated topics of our past have lite up thus i imagine the connections sync
 Quoting: aether


i imagine you are right
it had almost stopped for a few
but is back now
not as bad, but still there
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Thread: GIANT UFO CAUGHT ON STEREO B HEADED TOWARDS EARTH!!DEBUNKED

Have y'all seen this? What do you think?
Favorite quote or Haiku,
Nikos Kazantzakis

" I said to the Almond tree, "Sister, speak to me of God..."
And the Almond tree blossomed...





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