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SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily)

 
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Bz shift...
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Have any of you seen a CH this large before?

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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[link to stereo.ssl.berkeley.edu]


watch ongoing particles today
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Re: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily)
Bz shift...
 Quoting: learner 8531500


Hi learner i got a short reply from sdo for your image...
Relationship ace and haarp




relationship between ACE and HAARP
[link to www.bigupload.com]

what did you think?


This may be a good question for our friends @TheSunToday

[link to twitter.com]


rly, funny^^okay will ask them :)
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Re: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily)
and... what jump is this in red line? [link to www.n3kl.org]
 Quoting: Luisport


[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

This electron flux plot contains the 5-minute averaged integral electron flux (electrons/cm2-s-sr) with energies greater than or equal to 0.8 MeV and greater than or equal to 2 MeV at GOES-13 (W75). These data are invalid during a significant proton event because of sensor contamination at the GOES spacecraft. Enhanced fluxes of electrons for an extended period of time have been associated with deep dielectric charging anomalies.

hf
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Re: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily)
An Open Question To The Forum:

If A CME Was Active And A Large Magnitude Flare
Occurred Simultaneously (Say X-Grade) What Would
Be The Net Observable Effect. Would A Shock Wave
In The Mass Constituting The Body Of The CME Be
Evident? Would Any Net Full Mass Effect Be Observed,
Such As An Acceleration Of Same Resulting In Increased
Overall Velocity? I Haven't Ever Thought Of The Case
Of The Two Events Simultaneously Occuring In A Geo-
Effective Context - CME Followed By A Large Magnitude
Flare. Has This Ever Happened (In Recent Years) To
Anyone's Knowledge?
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An Open Question To The Forum:

If A CME Was Active And A Large Magnitude Flare
Occurred Simultaneously (Say X-Grade) What Would
Be The Net Observable Effect. Would A Shock Wave
In The Mass Constituting The Body Of The CME Be
Evident? Would Any Net Full Mass Effect Be Observed,
Such As An Acceleration Of Same Resulting In Increased
Overall Velocity? I Haven't Ever Thought Of The Case
Of The Two Events Simultaneously Occuring In A Geo-
Effective Context - CME Followed By A Large Magnitude
Flare. Has This Ever Happened (In Recent Years) To
Anyone's Knowledge?
 Quoting: JustOneGuy


wow, your post strikes me as odd.But i dont quite know why...
NiNzrez  (OP)

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Re: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily)
and... what jump is this in red line? [link to www.n3kl.org]
 Quoting: Luisport


[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

This electron flux plot contains the 5-minute averaged integral electron flux (electrons/cm2-s-sr) with energies greater than or equal to 0.8 MeV and greater than or equal to 2 MeV at GOES-13 (W75). These data are invalid during a significant proton event because of sensor contamination at the GOES spacecraft. Enhanced fluxes of electrons for an extended period of time have been associated with deep dielectric charging anomalies.

hf
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thank you very much for adding this info!!!
NiNzrez  (OP)

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Re: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily)
Bz shift...
 Quoting: learner 8531500


im watching this super close
as one of the math equasions came up with the CME arrival of 22:00 today
it is right now 22:30

reguardless of the exact time
we should be on the high watch for tis CME's arrival from right now, until 8am EST tomorrow morning
(that is 12:00 UTC)

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I'm pretty impressed how long these protons have stayed up. I must say the next few days will be interesting. These NOAA/NASA solar meteorologist seem to be less accurate than weather meteorologists...
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An Open Question To The Forum:

If A CME Was Active And A Large Magnitude Flare
Occurred Simultaneously (Say X-Grade) What Would
Be The Net Observable Effect. Would A Shock Wave
In The Mass Constituting The Body Of The CME Be
Evident? Would Any Net Full Mass Effect Be Observed,
Such As An Acceleration Of Same Resulting In Increased
Overall Velocity? I Haven't Ever Thought Of The Case
Of The Two Events Simultaneously Occuring In A Geo-
Effective Context - CME Followed By A Large Magnitude
Flare. Has This Ever Happened (In Recent Years) To
Anyone's Knowledge?
 Quoting: JustOneGuy


wow, your post strikes me as odd.But i dont quite know why...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9342471


Looks like some kind of code hidden in them capitol letters.
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I'm pretty impressed how long these protons have stayed up. I must say the next few days will be interesting. These NOAA/NASA solar meteorologist seem to be less accurate than weather meteorologists...
 Quoting: MARSpeed 1492929


hahaha true story
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I'm pretty impressed how long these protons have stayed up. I must say the next few days will be interesting. These NOAA/NASA solar meteorologist seem to be less accurate than weather meteorologists...
 Quoting: MARSpeed 1492929


hahaha true story
 Quoting: NiNzrez


Does the length of time that the proton levels stay elevated correlate with how long the geomagnetic storm will last?
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The temp is begining to rise... [link to www2.nict.go.jp]
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Re: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily)
An Open Question To The Forum:

If A CME Was Active And A Large Magnitude Flare
Occurred Simultaneously (Say X-Grade) What Would
Be The Net Observable Effect. Would A Shock Wave
In The Mass Constituting The Body Of The CME Be
Evident? Would Any Net Full Mass Effect Be Observed,
Such As An Acceleration Of Same Resulting In Increased
Overall Velocity? I Haven't Ever Thought Of The Case
Of The Two Events Simultaneously Occuring In A Geo-
Effective Context - CME Followed By A Large Magnitude
Flare. Has This Ever Happened (In Recent Years) To
Anyone's Knowledge?
 Quoting: JustOneGuy


wow, your post strikes me as odd.But i dont quite know why...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9342471


Looks like some kind of code hidden in them capitol letters.
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


theres something hidden in there alright.
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Re: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily)
I'm pretty impressed how long these protons have stayed up. I must say the next few days will be interesting. These NOAA/NASA solar meteorologist seem to be less accurate than weather meteorologists...
 Quoting: MARSpeed 1492929


hahaha true story
 Quoting: NiNzrez


Does the length of time that the proton levels stay elevated correlate with how long the geomagnetic storm will last?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9409409


Kinda/sorta. Just says there is a ton of energy associated w/this CME. A direct hit would have cooked some eggs, thats for sure.
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The temp is begining to rise... [link to www2.nict.go.jp]
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It's arriving or not yet?
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i just went to check this weeks weather, and there it is the #4 story on weather.com

Strongest Solar Storm Since 2005 Hitting Earth
by weather.com and The Associated Press

[link to www.weather.com]

they actually put a bit of time into that article
nice load of info in one place
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The temp is begining to rise... [link to www2.nict.go.jp]
 Quoting: Luisport


It's arriving or not yet?
 Quoting: Luisport


it could be....
still to early to tell
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Re: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily)
I'm pretty impressed how long these protons have stayed up. I must say the next few days will be interesting. These NOAA/NASA solar meteorologist seem to be less accurate than weather meteorologists...
 Quoting: MARSpeed 1492929


hahaha true story
 Quoting: NiNzrez


Does the length of time that the proton levels stay elevated correlate with how long the geomagnetic storm will last?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9409409


no direct correlation that i know of
we can only guess at how long the geomagnetic storm from a CME will last
we base it on the direction it was ejected, how much material was ejected, how fast it was etc.
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Re: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily)
could be also from the latest coronal hole (CH495) was in earth facing position on jan20
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Strongest radiation storm seen in 7 years erupts from the Sun January 23, 2012 – SUN – A powerful solar eruption is expected to blast a stream of charged particles toward Earth tomorrow (Jan. 24), as the strongest radiation storm since 2005 rages on the sun. Early this morning (0359 GMT Jan. 23, which corresponds to late Sunday, Jan. 22 at 10:59 p.m. EST), NASA’s Solar Dynamics Observatory caught an extreme ultraviolet flash from a huge eruption on the sun, according to the skywatching website Spaceweather.com. The solar flare spewed from sunspot 1402, a region of the sun that has become increasingly active lately. Several NASA satellites, including the Solar Dynamics Observatory, the Solar Heliospheric Observatory (SOHO), and the Stereo spacecraft observed the massive sun storm. A barrage of charged particles triggered by this morning’s solar flare is expected to hit Earth tomorrow at around 9 a.m. EST (1400 GMT), according to experts at the Space Weather Prediction Center, a division of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. According to NOAA, this is the strongest solar radiation storm since May 2005, and as a precaution, polar flights on Earth are expected to be re-routed within the next few hours, Kathy Sullivan, deputy administrator of NOAA, said today at the 92nd annual American Meteorological Society meeting in New Orleans, La. –Space.com [link to theextinctionprotocol.wordpress.com]
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Re: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily)
wind speed, and density are not registering on the nict data right now
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

anyone wanting to see what that data is, here is a direct link to the 1&5 min data
just open in a new tab, and click refresh each 1min

(looking for that funny F5 smilie haha and not finding it)

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could be also from the latest coronal hole (CH495) was in earth facing position on jan20
 Quoting: IwantToBelieve76


we sure do have to add that to the equasion
i had forgotten that
thanks for reminding us of this
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could be also from the latest coronal hole (CH495) was in earth facing position on jan20
 Quoting: IwantToBelieve76


we sure do have to add that to the equasion
i had forgotten that
thanks for reminding us of this
 Quoting: NiNzrez


Spaceweather has upped M class from 30% to 60% and X from 1% to 10%
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An Open Question To The Forum:

If A CME Was Active And A Large Magnitude Flare
Occurred Simultaneously (Say X-Grade) What Would
Be The Net Observable Effect. Would A Shock Wave
In The Mass Constituting The Body Of The CME Be
Evident? Would Any Net Full Mass Effect Be Observed,
Such As An Acceleration Of Same Resulting In Increased
Overall Velocity? I Haven't Ever Thought Of The Case
Of The Two Events Simultaneously Occuring In A Geo-
Effective Context - CME Followed By A Large Magnitude
Flare. Has This Ever Happened (In Recent Years) To
Anyone's Knowledge?
 Quoting: JustOneGuy


wow, your post strikes me as odd.But i dont quite know why...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9342471


Looks like some kind of code hidden in them capitol letters.
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


Damn aliens..... He he he....
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The temp is begining to rise... [link to www2.nict.go.jp]
 Quoting: Luisport


It's arriving or not yet?
 Quoting: Luisport


it could be....
still to early to tell
 Quoting: NiNzrez


watch the AU/AE graphs that are under the main simulations
the AU/AE will show the CME arrival before the top images do
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Re: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily)
wind speed, and density are not registering on the nict data right now
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

anyone wanting to see what that data is, here is a direct link to the 1&5 min data
just open in a new tab, and click refresh each 1min

(looking for that funny F5 smilie haha and not finding it)
 Quoting: NiNzrez


what this tells me is that the proton storm has knocked out the solar wind density and velocity metrics.. i was just gonna post something to that effect but this confirms and makes unnecessary...

still. based on that ACE HAARP composite i did, its the hard Bz flips that really rings out bell, that plus high density... lol, but we know we got that, right: freaking knocked the sensors offline...

so we look for hard Bz shifts? and watch HAARP?
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Re: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily)
also might be a good time to clock transits.
given that Bz shift happened just under 2 hours ago and Haarp shoes all calm right now...

first blip on HAARP gives us a phase offset calibration?

?
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Yah, dat me, Alien I be...
Sorry all; ex-military, accustomed to formatting
EAM messages thus...becomes habitual, like breathing.
Seriously though, the question remains. Anyone thought
about it?
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