SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily)

ACE data starting to get garbbled? latest showed partially scrambled images...

anybody else?

yikes.
is there a real time monitor to this sensor? the ACE velocity metric is clearly broken, eh?

My imagination or are we starting to see interaction?
I watched the “wings” slowly spread apart and now they are becoming erratic.

[link to www2.nict.go.jp]

MSM surprisingly vocal about this one for some reason....

10 *'s
5 Thumbs
etc etc ad nauseum

btw, the blog is looking good NINZ

yes the ACE data is messed up and solar wind not avaliable from the proton storm
Kevin talked about that some on his site :)
[link to www.solarham.com]

here is the link to the SOHO CELIAS/MTOF Proton Monitor
keep in mind, it does not update as fast as ACE
[link to umtof.umd.edu]

or maybe given the high velocity we'll continue to see low density plasma. after all E=m*v^2 right?
if these last two CME had roughly the same energy (which the kinda should , right? based on Xray charts) so, if this one is, what 3 maybe 4 times faster?

given the same energy, it should have much lower mass?
*pure speculation*

Space Weather Message Code: ALTK05
Serial Number: 674
Issue Time: 2012 Jan 24 1903 UTC

ALERT: Geomagnetic K-index of 5
Threshold Reached: 2012 Jan 24 1903 UTC
Synoptic Period: 1800-2100 UTC
Active Warning: Yes
NOAA Scale: G1 - Minor

According to this, Kp is at 5:

[link to www.softservenews.com]

nobody wants that

Day, I was looking forward to following this CME hitting us. IT's always a learning experience and a good time here following along. BUT all the links are dead for me. Not even the SolarHam or Real Time links. None of them worked. I'm in MD and using Safari if that means anything. What a bummer that I missed it. Oh well, I'm sure there will be others. Thanks to those posting info and keeping us updated.

K-index at Tromso, Norway at 6=STORM, equalling its peak from the last storm on the 22nd.

[link to flux.phys.uit.no]

Real-Time Bowshock Simulation:

[link to pixie.spasci.com]

NASA 24-hr. Magnetopause model:

[link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080]

Thread: PROTON STORM-CME Hitting Earth Right Now!!

R these normal readings for the flare and cme events that occurred?

it does suck to be stuck in the dark :/

WARNING: Geomagnetic K-Index of 6 expected
Valid From: 2012 Jan 24 1930 UTC
Valid To: 2012 Jan 25 0100 UTC
Warning Condition: Onset
NOAA Scale: G2 - Moderate

[link to www.solarham.com]

Last Edited by <<LOOK`n thru YOU>> on 01/24/2012 02:39 PM

We're pissing in the dark without the ACE satellite data. Here's some doom for everyone--

Satellite Outages Now Critical

The Advanced Composition Explorer ( ACE ) spacecraft satellite probe onboard sensing camera detectors, however rely on the ‘orderly flow of electrons’ for it to function properly in sending signals back to Earth station receivers, but amidst a Solar Energetic Particle Event ( SEPE ) from an ‘extremely fast’ Coronal Mass Ejection ( CME ) solar flare, the highly excited electrons from the Sun will cause ACE and other satellite monitors to experience electrical power outages that could take NASA longer than 15-minutes to determine ‘why’ the ACE spacecraft went out. Advanced Composition Explorer ( ACE ) was only built to withstand the effects from ‘average solar flare’, not a ‘significant solar flare’. NASA knows ACE 13-year old sensors will ‘cease to function before a significant solar flare even passes ACE in space’. NASA Advanced Composition Explorer ( ACE ) sensing detectors are now 13-years old, not as sensitive as newer technology detectors today, plus ACE has exceeded its NASA calculated life expectance.

[link to conceptactivityresearchvault.wordpress.com]

Region 11402 [N30W35] changed significantly after the major flare as the large penumbra fragmented into smaller penumbrae. There's a magnetic delta structure in the easternmost of the new penumbrae. Further major flares are possible. Flares: M1.1/1N long duration event peaking at 03:04 (associated with a fast, wide asymmetric full halo CME), major M8.7/2B long duration event peaking at 03:59 UTC. The latter event was associated with another fast, asymmetric full halo CME and a strong radiation event. The above 10 MeV proton flux has so far peaked above 3600 pfu but could reach significantly higher values when the CMEs reach Earth. ACE solar wind speed, density and temperature became invalid after approx. 06:30 UTC due to sensor contamination
[link to www.solen.info]

so this is the strongest flare in 13 years??

Found article about our solar system entering an interstellar cloud:

[link to deepsoftime.com]

This cloud was thought to be more magnetic than previously thought and we could be looking at between 4 and 5 microgauss.

Curious to know what effects this could have on any/all sun activity?




between 4 and 5 microgauss

[link to neutronm.bartol.udel.edu]

Well, not the strongest flare as measured in the x-ray flux. But definitely one of the strongest SEP events/CMEs in 7 years or more. It's too soon to evaluate. However, the article suggests the ACE outages have happened before, but eventually the detectors may become permanently fried.

very cool

muon count

More Sun links:

[link to lasp.colorado.edu]

[link to hirweb.nict.go.jp]

[link to seg-web.nict.go.jp]

[link to www2.nict.go.jp]


** [link to kogma.nict.go.jp]

[link to www2.nict.go.jp]

** [link to www.lund.irf.se]

EnJoY

[link to bdm.iszf.irk.ru]

[link to bass2000.obspm.fr]

[link to cohoweb.gsfc.nasa.gov]

[link to www.solen.info]

[link to sidc.oma.be]

__^__ More Sun Links __^__

Posted this quote yesterday in regards to GOES electron flux detector anomalies; but it bears repeating due to ACE troubles and potentially other satellites which may sustain outages/damages from this CME.

SOLAR STORM THREAT ANALYSIS:

"" A high-energy particle from an SPE can penetrate the wall of a satellite and deposit sufficient charge to cause an electrical upset to a circuit switch, false command, memory state change or loss. As the nuclear particles collide
within the spacecraft, they release electrons that build up an internal dielectric charge. This static charge can destroy circuitry on electronic boards. The particles can also change data and instructions stored in computer memory.

Some of the memory damage is soft causing Single Event Upset (SEU). Generally, this anomaly can be corrected by a computer reboot. But some of the damage can be hard causing unrepairable physical damage to the junction of
the microcircuit. These types of failures can be fatal."

[link to www.breadandbutterscience.com]

Layout of detectors on ACE spacecraft:

[link to conceptactivityresearchvault.files.wordpress.com]
:ACEsat:

good to know: thnx!

i think u can see it here (ace archive):
[link to www2.nict.go.jp]

Bz metric still operational?

The Advanced Composition Explorer ( ACE ) spacecraft satellite probe onboard sensing camera detectors, however rely on the ‘orderly flow of electrons’ for it to function properly in sending signals back to Earth station receivers, but amidst a Solar Energetic Particle Event ( SEPE ) from an ‘extremely fast’ Coronal Mass Ejection ( CME ) solar flare, the highly excited electrons from the Sun will cause ACE and other satellite monitors to experience electrical power outages that could take NASA longer than 15-minutes to determine ‘why’ the ACE spacecraft went out. Advanced Composition Explorer ( ACE ) was only built to withstand the effects from ‘average solar flare’, not a ‘significant solar flare’. NASA knows ACE 13-year old sensors will ‘cease to function before a significant solar flare even passes ACE in space’. NASA Advanced Composition Explorer ( ACE ) sensing detectors are now 13-years old, not as sensitive as newer technology detectors today, plus ACE has exceeded its NASA calculated life expectance.
[link to conceptactivityresearchvault.wordpress.com]

Much of the damage can be mitigated if managers know a storm is coming. Putting satellites in 'safe mode' and disconnecting transformers can protect these assets from damaging electrical surges. Preventative action, however, requires accurate forecasting—a job that has been assigned to NOAA.
[link to science.nasa.gov]


LOS ANGELES – May 18, 2011 – In 1997, NASA could provide Earth with “space weather” ( also known as ) “solar wind” (aka) “solar flare” disturbances ‘early warning’ of between 15-minutes to 45-minutes from the Advanced Composition Explorer ( ACE ) spacecraft satellite probe that detects inbound solar geomagnetic storm streams of highly excited and disorderly flowing ‘electron particles’ ( invisible to the naked eye ), the effects thereof wreak havoc on national electricity grid system transformers and satellites that both burn-out if they are not ‘shutdown’ beforehand because they both become overly loaded from what are called ‘significant’ Solar Energetic Particle Event ( SEPE ) effects above Earth, on the ground, and underwater.
[link to conceptactivityresearchvault.wordpress.com]

We did indeed have a significant Solar Energetic Particle Event ( SEPE ) that started on Jan 23, 2012 when we had the strongest proton event since 2003
[link to mysolaralerts.blogspot.com]

and we saw the potential for this SEPE event on Jan 20, 2012 as we reported here
[link to mysolaralerts.blogspot.com]


National Security Electricity Infrastructure Concerns:
While the ‘official report’ ( above ) states, “… the spacecraft [ ACE ] has a ‘design life’ of at least 5-years …,” a ‘national security concern’ in yet another ’official report’ ( see below ) states, the “… Advanced Composition Explorer …” ( ACE ) “… exceeded …” its “… 2-year ‘design life’ …”
[link to conceptactivityresearchvault.wordpress.com]


if we have learned anything on this thread, it is that we should NOT rely 100% on any data!!!

If something does not look right, or match other avaliable data, then more than likley something is wrong... somewhere.
This is when we go on the search! looking at ALL data we can find! and only then do we come to a conclusion as to the current situation
use ALL avaliable information
data, images and reports from ALL avaliable solar monitoring agencies from around the world

Last Edited by NiNzrez on 01/24/2012 05:16 PM

On the CACTUS web site:
[link to www.sidc.oma.be]

This is the first time that there has been a continuous plot that fills in the chart for almost a full day.
From 01-22 at 22:30UTC to 01-23 at 20:25UTC

Has anyone seen this before?


The experience and help here is the best!!!

Last Edited by joinca on 01/24/2012 04:51 PM

word.

on the above bolded : wtf. why build something half ass. i call BS.