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shadasonic User ID: 10309055 United States 03/05/2012 09:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | a lot of talk in here today about sunspot 1429 Quoting: NiNzrez but i have not seen anyone mention that this large northern sunspot region have the same polarity characteristics as a southern located sunspot for anyone who may not know the polaritys reverse when the sun goes through a solar reversal, also known as the solar maximum at that time, the leading polaritys of the sunspot regions switch places we can see in this magnetogram image taken in 2002 [link to soi.stanford.edu] that sunspots in the northern region are of a positive/negative structure with the leading area (on the right) being positive (white), and on the left being the negative (white on the right, black on the left) in the southern sunspots, its the opposite (black on right, white on the left) when the sun went through a polar reversal in around 2003, that it does each 10-12 years, these polaritys reverse this is why, we now see sunspots in the northern region with black on the right, white on the left and the sunspots in the southern region white on the right, and black on the left as we see here in a magnetogram image from SDO for March 7th 2011 the day this thread was made [link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov] now compair that magnetogram image to the latest magnetogram image for today [link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov] notice anything odd? how about how... this huge sunspot 1429 has the same polarity (positive/negative - white on right, black on left) and the ones in the southern region do 1429 is the opposite of all other northern region sunspots Great catch Nin! We got a bubbler on our hands,notice the writhing magnetic plasma,alot of energy with this one. This puppies got potential! As we get closer to maximum,the sunspots will start appearing closer to the suns equator.We are a little ways off I would say,but this cycle by no means is going to disappoint “One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan |
FraudulentZodiac User ID: 11925002 United States 03/05/2012 09:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | AR1429 is going to give us one. Sol was quiet for the past couple weeks. Then, BAM! He is poppin off all kinds of flares. Doesnt look good, and there is an even bigger sun spot about to turn the corner if Im not mistaken. "All energy flows according to the whims of the Great Magnet" - Hunter S. Thompson "None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe We are all just ins inside the out, and outs inside the ins. |
NiNzrez (OP) User ID: 10498853 United States 03/05/2012 09:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | not theorizing anything just making an observation :) Join Me On The GLP SOLAR WATCH Thread Thread: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily) |
NiNzrez (OP) User ID: 10498853 United States 03/05/2012 09:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | notice anything odd? Quoting: NiNzrez how about how... this huge sunspot 1429 has the same polarity (positive/negative - white on right, black on left) and the ones in the southern region do 1429 is the opposite of all other northern region sunspots well someone was bound to notice first, and of course it was you.. i'm glad i popped in to check on ya:) peak of sc24, nice milestone.. it's oe btw and i plan to spread this finding over you know where, thx girl.. we miss you over here OE stop being such a damn stranger! Join Me On The GLP SOLAR WATCH Thread Thread: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily) |
shadasonic User ID: 10309055 United States 03/05/2012 09:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | notice anything odd? Quoting: NiNzrez how about how... this huge sunspot 1429 has the same polarity (positive/negative - white on right, black on left) and the ones in the southern region do 1429 is the opposite of all other northern region sunspots well someone was bound to notice first, and of course it was you.. i'm glad i popped in to check on ya:) peak of sc24, nice milestone.. it's oe btw and i plan to spread this finding over you know where, thx girl.. we miss you over here OE stop being such a damn stranger! Speaking of strangers haven't seen tomasGod around? “One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan |
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shadasonic User ID: 10309055 United States 03/05/2012 09:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | maybe this will bring him out of hiding. i'ld like to see his input on this polarity thing.. Yeah,that should do it! “One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan |
Hugh M Eye User ID: 5467634 United States 03/05/2012 10:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok, I'm fairly new with the terminology and actual science behind sun spots and flares. Any good sights were I can feed the brain and jump on board? Any help would be much appreciated. Quoting: EndOfAll Welcome and thanks for asking. You're undoubtedly not alone on this. Here's 2 excellent sites for an introduction to solar phenomena. When you're settled in, feel free to ask questions. We're all learning on the job here. Best of luck. [link to solarscience.msfc.nasa.gov] [link to www.spacetoday.org] And don't forget to bookmark the sites most useful for observations. For starters: Solar Dynamics Observatory: [link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov] STEREO Mission: [link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov] SOHO Mission: [link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov] |
Hugh M Eye User ID: 5467634 United States 03/05/2012 10:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well done, SunQueen! A very astute observation. Even the new region 1430 next to it has an opposite polarity. Thanks for pointing this out. I never would have noticed. Close-up movies of the two M1.3 flares: [link to sdowww.lmsal.com] [link to sdowww.lmsal.com] The last M-flare still in Q. |
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Hugh M Eye User ID: 5467634 United States 03/05/2012 11:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interesting article from 2001: NASA:The Sun Does A Flip- "Meridional flows on the Sun's surface carry magnetic fields from mid-latitude sunspots to the Sun's poles," explains Hathaway. "The poles end up flipping because these flows transport south-pointing magnetic flux to the north magnetic pole, and north-pointing flux to the south magnetic pole." The dipole field steadily weakens as oppositely-directed flux accumulates at the Sun's poles until, at the height of solar maximum, the magnetic poles change polarity and begin to grow in a new direction. [link to science.nasa.gov] More fun facts about the Sun's magnetic cycle: [link to istp.gsfc.nasa.gov] |
Hugh M Eye User ID: 5467634 United States 03/05/2012 11:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Woo-hoo! How many is that now ...7 or 8? And to think that for days last week there was only one lonely C4 flare. We had a lot of filament eruptions to watch though. Look at the X-ray flux at Solarsoft from left to right. One big spot made quite a difference! Scroll down to the flare list; 37 of the last 40 flares were from 1429! [link to www.lmsal.com] |
OTOC User ID: 12007774 United Kingdom 03/05/2012 11:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | a lot of talk in here today about sunspot 1429 Quoting: NiNzrez but i have not seen anyone mention that this large northern sunspot region have the same polarity characteristics as a southern located sunspot for anyone who may not know the polaritys reverse when the sun goes through a solar reversal, also known as the solar maximum at that time, the leading polaritys of the sunspot regions switch places we can see in this magnetogram image taken in 2002 [link to soi.stanford.edu] that sunspots in the northern region are of a positive/negative structure with the leading area (on the right) being positive (white), and on the left being the negative (white on the right, black on the left) in the southern sunspots, its the opposite (black on right, white on the left) when the sun went through a polar reversal in around 2003, that it does each 10-12 years, these polaritys reverse this is why, we now see sunspots in the northern region with black on the right, white on the left and the sunspots in the southern region white on the right, and black on the left as we see here in a magnetogram image from SDO for March 7th 2011 the day this thread was made [link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov] now compair that magnetogram image to the latest magnetogram image for today [link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov] notice anything odd? how about how... this huge sunspot 1429 has the same polarity (positive/negative - white on right, black on left) and the ones in the southern region do 1429 is the opposite of all other northern region sunspots To the point, try look at sunspot genesis [link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov] that's 1429 on the far north east. And take a close look [link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov] Sunspots are a convoluted mess of magnetic field lines for the most part and the magnetogram only has the ability to see the surface, but basically, for 1429 the polarity is the same as the rest in the northern, it's just been so twisted over the days that it appears at a quick glance to be the alternate polarity. look close you can see the 'white' on the left on it, look earlier in it's life and you can more clearly see the 'white' on the left. Further note, If the magnetic poles had shifted you would see massive uprising in the 'normal' polarity sunspots, and that sunspot would actually be extremely calm for it's size. |
Southern OR User ID: 7410435 United States 03/05/2012 11:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I know this is probably a stupid question to pose but hell I'm brave and you guys are so nice....Why do they renumber the sunspots when they come back around? It seems it would be easier to track the bad boys if the number stayed the same. "Well-behaved women seldom make history." —Laurel Thatcher Ulrich I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something. And I will not let what I cannot do interfere with what I can do. ~Edward Everett Hale |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 12007774 United Kingdom 03/05/2012 11:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I know this is probably a stupid question to pose but hell I'm brave and you guys are so nice....Why do they renumber the sunspots when they come back around? It seems it would be easier to track the bad boys if the number stayed the same. Quoting: Southern OR It's from when we couldn't track them around the back of the sun. Still need more equipment round the back to fully track them. |
Rain-Man User ID: 12003389 Bosnia and Herzegovina 03/05/2012 11:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | FLARE . 0-24 hr 24-48 hr CLASS M 75 % 75 % CLASS X 30 % 30 % Last Edited by Rain-Man on 03/05/2012 11:57 PM Thread: Most Dangerous Time for Strong Earthquakes in 2012, Super Full Moon, Alignment of Earth-Sun-Jupiter, Venus Transit, Solar Eclipse over USA & JP Thread: Strange Sounds,Strange Rumblings, Sonic Booms, The Hum, Groaning, Earthquake Connection, Electromagnetic Voices, Post Your Recordings Here EARTHQUAKE FORECAST [link to igipop.webs.com] |
Hugh M Eye User ID: 5467634 United States 03/05/2012 11:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I know this is probably a stupid question to pose but hell I'm brave and you guys are so nice....Why do they renumber the sunspots when they come back around? It seems it would be easier to track the bad boys if the number stayed the same. Quoting: Southern OR Hello, Southern ORI can't say for sure, but very few active regions survive a full rotation. Some only last a few days. A lot of these things are based in tradition. I was surprised to see that SIDC in Belgium still does daily pencil sketches of sunspots seen through their terrestrial telescopes. [link to web.ct.astro.it] [link to sidc.oma.be] |
Hugh M Eye User ID: 5467634 United States 03/05/2012 11:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think we can make the M-flares 100%; we've already had 3 today in 5 hours! I would say an X is better than 50% the way she's lookin'. Don't forget each minute 1429 is inching closer to going direct. Last Edited by Hugh M Eye on 03/05/2012 11:59 PM |
Rain-Man User ID: 12009961 Bosnia and Herzegovina 03/06/2012 12:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think we can make the M-flares 100%; we've already had 3 today in 5 hours! I would say an X is better than 50% the way she's lookin'. Don't forget each minute 1429 is inching closer to going direct. It's from .. [link to www.spaceweather.com] But you're right for that, also we probably have EQ M 7.2+ in next 12 days to time that sunspot group leave our view .. [link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov] Last Edited by Rain-Man on 03/06/2012 12:41 AM Thread: Most Dangerous Time for Strong Earthquakes in 2012, Super Full Moon, Alignment of Earth-Sun-Jupiter, Venus Transit, Solar Eclipse over USA & JP Thread: Strange Sounds,Strange Rumblings, Sonic Booms, The Hum, Groaning, Earthquake Connection, Electromagnetic Voices, Post Your Recordings Here EARTHQUAKE FORECAST [link to igipop.webs.com] |
EndOfAll User ID: 2934332 United States 03/06/2012 12:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok, I'm fairly new with the terminology and actual science behind sun spots and flares. Any good sights were I can feed the brain and jump on board? Any help would be much appreciated. Quoting: EndOfAll Welcome and thanks for asking. You're undoubtedly not alone on this. Here's 2 excellent sites for an introduction to solar phenomena. When you're settled in, feel free to ask questions. We're all learning on the job here. Best of luck. [link to solarscience.msfc.nasa.gov] [link to www.spacetoday.org] And don't forget to bookmark the sites most useful for observations. For starters: Solar Dynamics Observatory: [link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov] STEREO Mission: [link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov] SOHO Mission: [link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov] Thanx for the info, I'm going to go get some knowledge, I shall return. EndOfAll |
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Hugh M Eye User ID: 5467634 United States 03/06/2012 01:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If I fall asleep, somebody check to see if the 1st CME hit us. Magnetosphere seems to be warming up a bit, but no CME yet. NICT Magnetosphere simulation: [link to www2.nict.go.jp] ACE Solar Wind Data: [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] GOES Electron Flux: [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] We're overdue for another big flare also....X-Ray Flux; [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] |
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