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SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily)

 
Hugh M Eye

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I found a pretty informative web page on solar storms while looking for info on how they can effect satellites. Especially how they effect the reliability of real time solar information during solar storms. It doesn't really address what I'm looking for but answers questions I often see here.

[link to solarcellcentral.com]
 Quoting: Doompa Loompa


Here's what i have on satellite trouble-

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

[link to conceptactivityresearchvault.wordpress.com]

And PDF: [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

NOAA Updates:
[link to www.oso.noaa.gov]

:ufodildo:
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Also ran across this about a recent electric grid simulation from the electrical standards guys themselves.

[link to spectrum.ieee.org]


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[...] geomagnetic storms can occur at any point in the solar cycle, and not all solar flares or coronal mass ejections will trigger a storm. Most of them, after all, will be pointed away from Earth. Of the earthbound ones, the damage they do depends on, among other things, the polarity of the magnetic field carried by the solar wind. If the polarity is the same as that of Earth's magnetic field, most of the particles will be deflected harmlessly into space.

umm..does anyone know what the polarity is on this one??
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why does the nict look so weird?
[link to www2.nict.go.jp]

Can anyone explain?
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Read the first post on thos page.
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Get it. But why is it eating the entire southern field...
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The 1989 Storm & Blackout:



[link to www.youtube.com]
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She's waking again!

[link to solarham.com]
 Quoting: MARsSPEED 1492929


C7.2 flare
out of no where
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
 Quoting: NiNzrez


Amazing... because the past three X-flares (+ CMEs) and now these little ones are apparently culminating into a de facto "Kill Shot". Except, it's not a RED PULSE (KNOWING scenario).

It'll definitely affect the GRID. At least, that's what I'm expecting.
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Thanks that the BZ is positive right now . We are getting a radiation storm

[link to www.solarham]
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NOAA Video Update 3/07/2012:



[link to www.youtube.com]
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I found a pretty informative web page on solar storms while looking for info on how they can effect satellites. Especially how they effect the reliability of real time solar information during solar storms. It doesn't really address what I'm looking for but answers questions I often see here.

[link to solarcellcentral.com]
 Quoting: Doompa Loompa


Here's what i have on satellite trouble-

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

[link to conceptactivityresearchvault.wordpress.com]

And PDF: [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

NOAA Updates:
[link to www.oso.noaa.gov]

:ufodildo:
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


thank you
NiNzrez  (OP)

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just a little note so i can share some news that excited me :)
the Solar Alerts Blog got 8,701 hits in the last 24hrs

wooohoooo!

Last Edited by NiNzrez on 03/07/2012 10:27 PM
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Anyone feel like speculating on the chances of major grid damage in the next twenty four hours?
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just a little note so i can share some news that excited me :)
the Solar Alerts Blog got 8,701 hits in the last 24hrs

wooohoooo!
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Well earned. And of course!
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Anyone feel like speculating on the chances of major grid damage in the next twenty four hours?
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Doesn't work that quick. It's more like during the weekend.

Wondering how Monday will be like.

Hopefully it happens "that quick". I'm excited for sudden change.

[I don't call it DOOM. I'd rather not project that into my field of reality.][As we know that "you are what you eat", also, you are what you think. Sound good?]

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She's waking again!

[link to solarham.com]
 Quoting: MARsSPEED 1492929


C7.2 flare
out of no where
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
 Quoting: NiNzrez


Amazing... because the past three X-flares (+ CMEs) and now these little ones are apparently culminating into a de facto "Kill Shot". Except, it's not a RED PULSE (KNOWING scenario).

It'll definitely affect the GRID. At least, that's what I'm expecting.
 Quoting: XenVal


yeah, i feel a bit uneasy about this CME arrival
lets hold tight and see what it brings
were all ong glp
we should have already prepared for the worst
and enjoy the best
:)
XenVal

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Should the GRID get rattled, I refuse to think of it as DOOM. I refuse to project this "thought-reaction" into my reality.
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The 1989 Storm & Blackout:



[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


Thanks! Very educational. :)
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Also ran across this about a recent electric grid simulation from the electrical standards guys themselves.

[link to spectrum.ieee.org]


gasp
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1516039


[...] geomagnetic storms can occur at any point in the solar cycle, and not all solar flares or coronal mass ejections will trigger a storm. Most of them, after all, will be pointed away from Earth. Of the earthbound ones, the damage they do depends on, among other things, the polarity of the magnetic field carried by the solar wind. If the polarity is the same as that of Earth's magnetic field, most of the particles will be deflected harmlessly into space.

umm..does anyone know what the polarity is on this one??
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


Please explain polarity in this context
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SOLAR DOOM...cont'd ( this is from IEEE, not a bunch of kooks)

Luminous fingers of intense red, green, and violet light flicker and pulse across the northern and southern skies like a vast cosmic conflagration. Within minutes, millions of people are tweeting, texting, and blogging about the wondrous sight. But then the sky turns a deep blood red, and fascination turns to panic.
Linked to the celestial spectacle are enormous fluctuations of the magnetic field in Earth's magnetosphere, which are causing immense flows of electric current in the upper atmosphere over much of the planet. Those huge currents disturb Earth's normally quiescent magnetic field, which in turn induces surges of current in electrical, telecommunications, and other networks across entire continents. Streetlights flicker out; electricity is lost. A massive planetary blackout has occurred, leaving vast swaths of North and South America, Europe, Australia, and Asia without power.
Within a few months, the crisis has deepened. In many areas, food shortages are rampant, drinking water has become a precious commodity, and patients in need of blood transfusions, insulin, or critical prescription drugs die waiting. Normal commerce has ground to a halt, replaced by black markets and violent crime. As fatalities climb into the millions, the fabric of society starts to unravel.

[link to spectrum.ieee.org]

Please pay attention to this:


[link to www.youtube.com]
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Also ran across this about a recent electric grid simulation from the electrical standards guys themselves.

[link to spectrum.ieee.org]


gasp
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1516039


[...] geomagnetic storms can occur at any point in the solar cycle, and not all solar flares or coronal mass ejections will trigger a storm. Most of them, after all, will be pointed away from Earth. Of the earthbound ones, the damage they do depends on, among other things, the polarity of the magnetic field carried by the solar wind. If the polarity is the same as that of Earth's magnetic field, most of the particles will be deflected harmlessly into space.

umm..does anyone know what the polarity is on this one??
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


Thanks that the BZ is positive right now . We are getting a radiation storm

[link to www.solarham]
 Quoting: old guard


so.. if the solar wind and the Earths magnetic field are both positive polarity we have nothing to worry about.

are they both positive?

TIA
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just a little note so i can share some news that excited me :)
the Solar Alerts Blog got 8,701 hits in the last 24hrs

wooohoooo!
 Quoting: NiNzrez


Congratz!...You go, girl!

Hey, I just realized the 1989 storm was also in early March. Maybe the Sun's B'day too.

birthdaybirthdaychorusapplause
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I really hope the stillness isn't a sign of the sheer magnitude of this CME.....

[link to www2.nict.go.jp]
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Also ran across this about a recent electric grid simulation from the electrical standards guys themselves.

[link to spectrum.ieee.org]


gasp
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1516039


[...] geomagnetic storms can occur at any point in the solar cycle, and not all solar flares or coronal mass ejections will trigger a storm. Most of them, after all, will be pointed away from Earth. Of the earthbound ones, the damage they do depends on, among other things, the polarity of the magnetic field carried by the solar wind. If the polarity is the same as that of Earth's magnetic field, most of the particles will be deflected harmlessly into space.

umm..does anyone know what the polarity is on this one??
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


Thanks that the BZ is positive right now . We are getting a radiation storm

[link to www.solarham]
 Quoting: old guard


so.. if the solar wind and the Earths magnetic field are both positive polarity we have nothing to worry about.

are they both positive?

TIA
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I may be wrong here but the magnetosphere appears to be completely open and ready for full ass rape...
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Also ran across this about a recent electric grid simulation from the electrical standards guys themselves.

[link to spectrum.ieee.org]


gasp
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1516039


[...] geomagnetic storms can occur at any point in the solar cycle, and not all solar flares or coronal mass ejections will trigger a storm. Most of them, after all, will be pointed away from Earth. Of the earthbound ones, the damage they do depends on, among other things, the polarity of the magnetic field carried by the solar wind. If the polarity is the same as that of Earth's magnetic field, most of the particles will be deflected harmlessly into space.

umm..does anyone know what the polarity is on this one??
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


Thanks that the BZ is positive right now . We are getting a radiation storm

[link to www.solarham]
 Quoting: old guard


so.. if the solar wind and the Earths magnetic field are both positive polarity we have nothing to worry about.

are they both positive?

TIA
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


I may be wrong here but the magnetosphere appears to be completely open and ready for full ass rape...
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Noticed the same thing.. lets keep our fingers crossed..
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Also ran across this about a recent electric grid simulation from the electrical standards guys themselves.

[link to spectrum.ieee.org]


gasp
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1516039


[...] geomagnetic storms can occur at any point in the solar cycle, and not all solar flares or coronal mass ejections will trigger a storm. Most of them, after all, will be pointed away from Earth. Of the earthbound ones, the damage they do depends on, among other things, the polarity of the magnetic field carried by the solar wind. If the polarity is the same as that of Earth's magnetic field, most of the particles will be deflected harmlessly into space.

umm..does anyone know what the polarity is on this one??
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


Thanks that the BZ is positive right now . We are getting a radiation storm

[link to www.solarham]
 Quoting: old guard


so.. if the solar wind and the Earths magnetic field are both positive polarity we have nothing to worry about.

are they both positive?

TIA
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


Howdy, RTShi. Yes, usually like polarities repel each other. When the Bz field element goes south we have the best chance for ground currents and aurorae. However, recent discoveries prove this is not always the case.

"The size of the breach took researchers by surprise. "We've seen things like this before," says Raeder, "but never on such a large scale. The entire day-side of the magnetosphere was open to the solar wind."
The circumstances were even more surprising. Space physicists have long believed that holes in Earth's magnetosphere open only in response to solar magnetic fields that point south. The great breach of June 2007, however, opened in response to a solar magnetic field that pointed north.
"To the lay person, this may sound like a quibble, but to a space physicist, it is almost seismic," says Sibeck. "When I tell my colleagues, most react with skepticism, as if I'm trying to convince them that the sun rises in the west.""

[link to science.nasa.gov]
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just a little note so i can share some news that excited me :)
the Solar Alerts Blog got 8,701 hits in the last 24hrs

wooohoooo!
 Quoting: NiNzrez


Congratz!...You go, girl!

Hey, I just realized the 1989 storm was also in early March. Maybe the Sun's B'day too.

birthdaybirthdaychorusapplause
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


lmao
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Hi Gang.. oe here.. just had to check in before the bigun hits:) hope y'all don't have to work tomorrow, it's gonna be a long night..

:solardoom: i hope that works cause i can't edit:/
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Also ran across this about a recent electric grid simulation from the electrical standards guys themselves.

[link to spectrum.ieee.org]


gasp
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[...] geomagnetic storms can occur at any point in the solar cycle, and not all solar flares or coronal mass ejections will trigger a storm. Most of them, after all, will be pointed away from Earth. Of the earthbound ones, the damage they do depends on, among other things, the polarity of the magnetic field carried by the solar wind. If the polarity is the same as that of Earth's magnetic field, most of the particles will be deflected harmlessly into space.

umm..does anyone know what the polarity is on this one??
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


Thanks that the BZ is positive right now . We are getting a radiation storm

[link to www.solarham]
 Quoting: old guard


so.. if the solar wind and the Earths magnetic field are both positive polarity we have nothing to worry about.

are they both positive?

TIA
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


Howdy, RTShi. Yes, usually like polarities repel each other. When the Bz field element goes south we have the best chance for ground currents and aurorae. However, recent discoveries prove this is not always the case.

"The size of the breach took researchers by surprise. "We've seen things like this before," says Raeder, "but never on such a large scale. The entire day-side of the magnetosphere was open to the solar wind."
The circumstances were even more surprising. Space physicists have long believed that holes in Earth's magnetosphere open only in response to solar magnetic fields that point south. The great breach of June 2007, however, opened in response to a solar magnetic field that pointed north.
"To the lay person, this may sound like a quibble, but to a space physicist, it is almost seismic," says Sibeck. "When I tell my colleagues, most react with skepticism, as if I'm trying to convince them that the sun rises in the west.""

[link to science.nasa.gov]
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


The ieee article I quoted from was from last month..I noticed the article you quoted from was from 2008. Is there a way to determine if they are the same polarity? I only ask because the ieee didn't mention the 2008 finding
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Magnetogram looks settled ...
[link to www.solarham.com]
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SOLAR ENERGETIC PARTICLE EVENT EFFECTS-

NASA expert..CME is .."similar to a French croissant".



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Serious U.S. Department of Homeland Security Business

Solar Energetic Particle Event ( SEPE ) effects on Earth and mankind are understood by professionals who are familiar with the damages caused by them, however very few citizens know about this, and even fewer know ’what to be preparing for’ is coming very soon that will impact their lives.

While a Solar Energetic Particle Event on Earth is ‘not doomsday with a crash and bang’, many will soon realize it comes with ‘no warning’ and is ‘extremely silent’ on ‘large sections of populations’ whom never even knew - let alone expected – what a Solar Energetic Particle Event ( SEPE ) really means for those living in modern day society.

Masses of people will be ‘immediately confused’, ’not fully understanding’ what has happened to them all when nothing electrical operates for a long period of time.

Experiencing ‘no electricity’ will be ‘totally foreign’ for many so, it becomes ‘vitaly important’ to begin learning today ‘how to prepare to survive’ within a ‘not too distant future society’ that has been instantly seperated from all modern day conveniences they had lived with for decades.

Sound impossible or ridiculous? Try telling the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, who knows what is coming soon, that it is impossible and ridiculous and see what they tell you!

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Magnetogram looks settled ...
[link to www.solarham.com]
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It's reacting a tiny bit. I assume it has something to do with that little C flare that hit a little while ago
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Magnetogram looks settled ...
[link to www.solarham.com]
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It's reacting a tiny bit. I assume it has something to do with that little C flare that hit a little while ago
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but still... not enough to really stop a big ass CME





GLP