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SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily)

 
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[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]

Anyone watching this?
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Yes, a large far-side CME....most likely from our old friend 1429 or possibly a filament eruption. Not Earth-facing, but STEREO A may get blasted.
SOHO C2:
[link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]
STEREO Behind:
[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

NOAA has extended warning 24 MORE hours....AGAIN.

Space Weather Message Code: WARK04
Serial Number: 1898
Issue Time: 2012 Mar 17 2323 UTC

EXTENDED WARNING: Geomagnetic K-index of 4 expected
Extension to Serial Number: 1897
Valid From: 2012 Mar 15 1300 UTC
Now Valid Until: 2012 Mar 19 0100 UTC
Warning Condition: Persistence

Potential Impacts: Area of impact primarily poleward of 65 degrees Geomagnetic Latitude.
Induced Currents - Weak power grid fluctuations can occur.
Aurora - Aurora may be visible at high latitudes such as Canada and Alaska.
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

GOES Electron Flux:
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

GOES Magnetometer:
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

ACE solar wind data shows a southward Bz and 600 km/s velocity--still from the coronal hole IMO.
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye




small gif from the farside cme this morning:

:backsideCMEmarch:


and kevin


[link to www.youtube.com]



Keep in mind there is a new region, still several days before rotating into view and it appears to be producing solar flares
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Welcome back IWTB and thanks for the videos and pics. How's the new home going?hugs
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Regarding the huge isoceles triangle now formed on the sun:

The triangle is nearly the size of the sun.
It's lines are perfectly straight - nature doesn't do that.
CME's are being sucked into it.

Suns ARE stargates. (Think black hole/wormhole.) Those sundiving comets aren't comets - they're going thru the gate.


(The sun and all planets are hollow, due to centrifugal force. Why do you think Admiral Byrd could find an inner earth?)
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care to share more?
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Welcome back IWTB and thanks for the videos and pics. How's the new home going?hugs
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big thx im in the timeline full move over will be at mid april :)
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Does anyone here know if binary data can be transmitted at 0.0001 Hz?
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Does anyone here know if binary data can be transmitted at 0.0001 Hz?
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yes, at any speed/rate

my net connection seems that slow sometimes -)
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Does anyone here know if binary data can be transmitted at 0.0001 Hz?
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whats on your mind ?

Talk about that freq here :
[link to www.slac.stanford.edu]
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Does anyone here know if binary data can be transmitted at 0.0001 Hz?
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


whats on your mind ?

Talk about that freq here :
[link to www.slac.stanford.edu]
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I put my SpectrumLab Digimode terminal to scan for signals at 0.1 Hz. It scanned Up to 7.5Hz then proceeded to scan down to 0.0001 Hz where it locked on to a signal. Binary data signal. What could it be from?
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Interesting... search: 0.0001 Hz ulf


separate topic...

NICT... anyone understand Japanese?

[link to www.youtube.com]

The NICT channel! Weekly Space Weather News from 2 days ago.

The little I could understand said GLP must pay up before the simulation goes back online...j/k

Maybe they mention the reason why the site is down?

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Interesting... search: 0.0001 Hz ulf


separate topic...

NICT... anyone understand Japanese?

[link to www.youtube.com]

The NICT channel! Weekly Space Weather News from 2 days ago.

The little I could understand said GLP must pay up before the simulation goes back online...j/k

Maybe they mention the reason why the site is down?

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6592383


Thank you, I found a very interesting article using that phrase in Google.

Namaste.
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This normal ?
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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Hehehe. I'm looking at this at 2153 UT on 03-18-12 and everyting is black. Uh, looks like it is not working at this time. Either that or it is the computer I am on.
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Interesting... search: 0.0001 Hz ulf


separate topic...

NICT... anyone understand Japanese?

[link to www.youtube.com]

The NICT channel! Weekly Space Weather News from 2 days ago.

The little I could understand said GLP must pay up before the simulation goes back online...j/k

Maybe they mention the reason why the site is down?

--
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6592383


Thank you, I found a very interesting article using that phrase in Google.

Namaste.
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


Here's the article;

[link to geomaps.wr.usgs.gov]
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TS66... thanks for the link.

El...skimmed the pdf. Didn't see anything about digital data. I was thinking more along the lines of submarine communications, though I'm not sure even they go that low.

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TS66... thanks for the link.

El...skimmed the pdf. Didn't see anything about digital data. I was thinking more along the lines of submarine communications, though I'm not sure even they go that low.

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I think the lowest they go down to is 16Hz. Why is this Binary data and or signal being transmitted at 0.0001 Hz. It is a transmission signal cause the software searches for it and locks into transmission not noise.
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TS66... thanks for the link.

El...skimmed the pdf. Didn't see anything about digital data. I was thinking more along the lines of submarine communications, though I'm not sure even they go that low.

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6592383


I think the lowest they go down to is 16Hz. Why is this Binary data and or signal being transmitted at 0.0001 Hz. It is a transmission signal cause the software searches for it and locks into transmission not noise.
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The software even has a squelch mode so I can tune out all the background noise.
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software even has a squelchhiding
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TS66... thanks for the link.

El...skimmed the pdf. Didn't see anything about digital data. I was thinking more along the lines of submarine communications, though I'm not sure even they go that low.

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6592383


I think the lowest they go down to is 16Hz. Why is this Binary data and or signal being transmitted at 0.0001 Hz. It is a transmission signal cause the software searches for it and locks into transmission not noise.
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


I'll be very interested to see what comes of this
“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan
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Does anyone here know if binary data can be transmitted at 0.0001 Hz?
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


whats on your mind ?

Talk about that freq here :
[link to www.slac.stanford.edu]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4141853


I put my SpectrumLab Digimode terminal to scan for signals at 0.1 Hz. It scanned Up to 7.5Hz then proceeded to scan down to 0.0001 Hz where it locked on to a signal. Binary data signal. What could it be from?
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


WHAT KIND OF ANTENNA/AMP DO YOU USE ?
IS IT A DIY TYPE? INFO LINK
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Does anyone here know if binary data can be transmitted at 0.0001 Hz?
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


whats on your mind ?

Talk about that freq here :
[link to www.slac.stanford.edu]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4141853


I put my SpectrumLab Digimode terminal to scan for signals at 0.1 Hz. It scanned Up to 7.5Hz then proceeded to scan down to 0.0001 Hz where it locked on to a signal. Binary data signal. What could it be from?
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


WHAT KIND OF ANTENNA/AMP DO YOU USE ?
IS IT A DIY TYPE? INFO LINK
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Big "T" Antenna for electric field, 2 induction coils N/S E/W configuration, very low noise preamplifier.
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Very tranquil right now.
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Very tranquil right now.
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This calm is what makes me more alert to what's coming next
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Very tranquil right now.
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This calm is what makes me more alert to what's coming next
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Here is an image of all signals below 110Hz. That graph is usually lit up with PC-1, PC-2 and PC-3 pulsations.

[link to imageshack.us]


Notice around 2330utc, PC-2 pulsations.

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Very tranquil right now.
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This calm is what makes me more alert to what's coming next
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Here is an image of all signals below 110Hz. That graph is usually lit up with PC-1, PC-2 and PC-3 pulsations.

[link to imageshack.us]


Notice around 2330utc, PC-2 pulsations.
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


Those PC-2 pulsations caused a dip on the magnetometer;

[link to www.irf.se]


Same exact timing.
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just a question.
what if we, and the sun, are being hit hard with cosmic rays?
i have been looking into GCR's. they seem not very good for us.
[link to imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov]
However, cosmic rays have been observed at much higher energies than supernova remnants can generate, and where these ultra-high-energies come from is a big question. Perhaps they come from outside the Galaxy, from active galactic nuclei, quasars or gamma ray bursts. Or perhaps they're the signature of some exotic new physics: superstrings, exotic dark matter, strongly-interacting neutrinos, or topological defects in the very structure of the universe. Questions like these tie cosmic-ray astrophysics to basic particle physics and the fundamental nature of the universe.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
Cosmic rays are energetic charged subatomic particles, originating in outer space. They may produce secondary particles that penetrate the Earth's atmosphere and surface. The term ray is historical as cosmic rays were thought to be electromagnetic radiation. Most primary cosmic rays (those that enter the atmosphere from deep space) are composed of familiar stable subatomic particles that normally occur on Earth, such as protons, atomic nuclei, or electrons. However, a very small fraction are stable particles of antimatter, such as positrons or antiprotons, and the precise nature of this remaining fraction is an area of active research.

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A neutron monitor is a ground-based detector designed to measure the number of high-energy charged particles striking the Earth's atmosphere from outer space. For historical reasons the incoming particles are called "cosmic rays", but in fact they are particles, predominantly protons and Helium nuclei. Most of the time, a neutron monitor records galactic cosmic rays and their variation with the 11-year sunspot cycle and 22-year magnetic cycle. Occasionally the Sun emits cosmic rays of sufficient energy and intensity to raise radiation levels on Earth's surface to the degree that they are readily detected by neutron monitors. They are termed "Ground Level Enhancements" (GLE).

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Does anyone follow this monitor?

[link to helios.izmiran.rssi.ru]

On the 9th, when this issue with the magnetic field reversal began, the neutrons shot way up to about 15%(I believe it was in the morning hours). It stayed up there for a few hours, then it appeared that the site stopped monitoring for the remainder of the day. When I checked the next morning, the spike was gone and the data was what is showing for the 9th -> on the current chart.

Did anyone else see this happen? I'm kicking myself for not taking a screen shot. It didn't appear to be a data error as it didn't stop monitoring when the spike initially happened. It continue to show the level for about 2-3 hours before it stopped working and then the chart remained the same without new data for the remainder of the day.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9525784



is it possible that these might be found near the galactic ecliptic, and we really are entering into this? i would think if this true the sun would be greatly effected by them and this might be coming from the dark side of the earth.

does anyone know where the earth is in relation to the heliosphere's bow shock? is there even a way to know this?
[link to helios.gsfc.nasa.gov]
if we are then anything coming in would be coming at the dark side of the earth.

Last Edited by psyoptics on 03/19/2012 12:15 AM
a good video editor can make anyone say anything the editor wants.
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Very tranquil right now.
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This calm is what makes me more alert to what's coming next
 Quoting: old guard


Here is an image of all signals below 110Hz. That graph is usually lit up with PC-1, PC-2 and PC-3 pulsations.

[link to imageshack.us]


Notice around 2330utc, PC-2 pulsations.
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


Those PC-2 pulsations caused a dip on the magnetometer;

[link to www.irf.se]


Same exact timing.
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


Attention Quake-tards! Nail-biting Seattle-Mega-Doom-Quake movie. Pardon me if everyone else has seen this...I don't watch television.



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just a question.
what if we, and the sun, are being hit hard with cosmic rays?
i have been looking into GCR's. they seem not very good for us.
[link to imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov]
However, cosmic rays have been observed at much higher energies than supernova remnants can generate, and where these ultra-high-energies come from is a big question. Perhaps they come from outside the Galaxy, from active galactic nuclei, quasars or gamma ray bursts. Or perhaps they're the signature of some exotic new physics: superstrings, exotic dark matter, strongly-interacting neutrinos, or topological defects in the very structure of the universe. Questions like these tie cosmic-ray astrophysics to basic particle physics and the fundamental nature of the universe.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
Cosmic rays are energetic charged subatomic particles, originating in outer space. They may produce secondary particles that penetrate the Earth's atmosphere and surface. The term ray is historical as cosmic rays were thought to be electromagnetic radiation. Most primary cosmic rays (those that enter the atmosphere from deep space) are composed of familiar stable subatomic particles that normally occur on Earth, such as protons, atomic nuclei, or electrons. However, a very small fraction are stable particles of antimatter, such as positrons or antiprotons, and the precise nature of this remaining fraction is an area of active research.

and this
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
A neutron monitor is a ground-based detector designed to measure the number of high-energy charged particles striking the Earth's atmosphere from outer space. For historical reasons the incoming particles are called "cosmic rays", but in fact they are particles, predominantly protons and Helium nuclei. Most of the time, a neutron monitor records galactic cosmic rays and their variation with the 11-year sunspot cycle and 22-year magnetic cycle. Occasionally the Sun emits cosmic rays of sufficient energy and intensity to raise radiation levels on Earth's surface to the degree that they are readily detected by neutron monitors. They are termed "Ground Level Enhancements" (GLE).

now read this post
Does anyone follow this monitor?

[link to helios.izmiran.rssi.ru]

On the 9th, when this issue with the magnetic field reversal began, the neutrons shot way up to about 15%(I believe it was in the morning hours). It stayed up there for a few hours, then it appeared that the site stopped monitoring for the remainder of the day. When I checked the next morning, the spike was gone and the data was what is showing for the 9th -> on the current chart.

Did anyone else see this happen? I'm kicking myself for not taking a screen shot. It didn't appear to be a data error as it didn't stop monitoring when the spike initially happened. It continue to show the level for about 2-3 hours before it stopped working and then the chart remained the same without new data for the remainder of the day.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9525784



is it possible that these might be found near the galactic ecliptic, and we really are entering into this? i would think if this true the sun would be greatly effected by them and this might be coming from the dark side of the earth.

does anyone know where the earth is in relation to the heliosphere's bow shock? is there even a way to know this?
[link to helios.gsfc.nasa.gov]
if we are then anything coming in would be coming at the dark side of the earth.
 Quoting: psyoptics


I appreciate the post, however the "dark side of the Earth" is the "LIGHT SIDE" of the Earth every 12 hours(except at the poles). Also, the Earth revolves around the sun once a year, so it's relationship to the Sol's bowshock is fluctuating accordingly. The Sun is now heading away from the Galactic Plane and won't be aligned with it for 30 million years.
[link to www.2012hoax.org]

As far as Galactic Cosmic Rays are concerned, they are at predictably low levels as we move toward solar maximum. Increases in solar activity drive away galactic invader particles in the heliosphere. The latest neutron monitor readings confirm this.(click on "daily" for a more dramitic view).
[link to cr0.izmiran.rssi.ru]

What are cosmic rays?

Galactic cosmic rays (GCRs) are the high-energy particles that flow into our solar system from far away in the Galaxy. GCRs are mostly pieces of atoms: protons, electrons, and atomic nuclei which have had all of the surrounding electrons stripped during their high-speed (almost the speed of light) passage through the Galaxy. Cosmic rays provide one of our few direct samples of matter from outside the solar system. The magnetic fields of the Galaxy, the solar system, and the Earth have scrambled the flight paths of these particles so much that we can no longer point back to their sources in the Galaxy. If you made a map of the sky with cosmic ray intensities, it would be completely uniform. So we have to determine where cosmic rays come from by indirect means.

[link to imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov]

More than we'll ever need to know about Cosmic Rays can be found here:

[link to neutronm.bartol.udel.edu]

If you're really into atom-smashing and Feynman diagrams check out these Cosmic Ray simulations...lots of time-consuming fun!

[link to www.bartol.udel.edu]

Last Edited by Hugh M Eye on 03/19/2012 01:22 AM
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just a question.
what if we, and the sun, are being hit hard with cosmic rays?
 Quoting: psyoptics

One thing for sure would be that the activity of Sun is largely dependent on surrounding cosmic environment.

We have just unexplainable increase of electron flux now.
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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Good morning all.
Watch your thoughts; they become words. Watch your words; they become actions. Watch your actions; they become habits. Watch your habits; they become your character. Watch your character; it becomes your destiny.
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The spikes in the electron flux was due to the arrival of the small CME from the M-flare on 3/15. There was a minor geomagnetic disturbance early today but things are mostly quiet now.

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

We may soon see more activity from the southern hemisphere. At least two large active regions on the far side are in the south. We'll have to wait 5 or 6 days to see what they bring us.

[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

I have to step out and soak up some of that solar radiation.sun Will check back later.

Last Edited by Hugh M Eye on 03/19/2012 11:08 AM
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Significant earthquake precursor signal detected on 03/19/12 at 1535utc/1135est. Possible 6+.

Radio Direction Finder has signal coming in East of France from somewhere out in the Northern, Mid to Southern portions of the Pacific plate to Alaska, Canada and Chile.


All who live anywhere in the vicinity of this line trajectory should be wary next 5 hours. Have escape plan ready and seek open terrain in the event of felt tremor. Secure most of your heavy objects and belongings around your home.


Namaste,

Hopefully I am wrong. Or it hits an unpopulated area.
Japan is also a likely target. Be wary.





GLP