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SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily)

 
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Seems a small CME is headed in Earth's general direction. Can't find the source yet as SDO is strangely missing 8 hours of images. We had a small flare from 1450 but I doubt that caused any mass ejection. Anyway STEREO has images.

STEREO B:
[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

STEREO A:
[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
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Thanks Hugh
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Hi, Keep an eye on things from Down Under so I can catch some sleep. Looks very quiet but our old friend may be stirring soon. Both 1450 & 1451 have large filaments formed. Good night and Peace to you , Sun Bro.

Latest Learmonth H-Alpha image:

[link to halpha.nso.edu]
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Seems a small CME is headed in Earth's general direction. Can't find the source yet as SDO is strangely missing 8 hours of images. We had a small flare from 1450 but I doubt that caused any mass ejection. Anyway STEREO has images.

STEREO B:
[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

STEREO A:
[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


Thanks Hugh
Peace
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Hi, Keep an eye on things from Down Under so I can catch some sleep. Looks very quiet but our old friend may be stirring soon. Both 1450 & 1451 have large filaments formed. Good night and Peace to you , Sun Bro.

Latest Learmonth H-Alpha image:

[link to halpha.nso.edu]
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hmmm...appears that we will get hit on the 05th by the flare today...check out the deep red to white travelling around the left side of the image

[link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080]

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'50 and '51 are looking monstrously electric right now...

[link to halpha.nso.edu]

SDO still not cacheing images...current here though no cache...

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

Looking big maybe...

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

GOES not updating...

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

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Oops, GOES data gap...just woke up, sorry.

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lower left ?
[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
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Quoting "lower left"...

Another coronal cavity forming where they seem to commonly occur. Look at red and see the prominence...

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Quoting "lower left"...

Another coronal cavity forming where they seem to commonly occur. Look at red and see the prominence...

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i think your right mate
Lets see what develops
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Hopefully we'll get SDO back so we CAN see what develops...

Grrrr...

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Why the same spot ?
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Quoting "same spot"... short answer... don't know.

I guess I meant same latitude, as same spot would imply something slightly different. Part of the reason one sees them more commonly at the edges of the disk is purely visual... due to the contrast of having "space" as the backdrop vs. having the Sun's disk as a backdrop. I guess I'm implying that coronal cavities form more often than what we easily see, which is obviously true since coronal cavities are part of the whole package which comprise a prominence, the coronal cavity just being different detail exposed due to the different wavelengths/temperatures of each of the SDO sensor bands.

As to the physics as to why they seem to form more often at this latitude range (if indeed they DO form here more often (statistical numbers for that?))... good question.

I would guess (GUESS!) that all prominences are not created equal. That some form with well defined structure in the temperature ranges that show these cavities well. If there is statistical truth to cavities forming more often here, at this latitude, it could possibly be used to reveal some info regarding plasma flow patterns, temperature distribution, etc. of the sun and/or prominence formation.

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Good morning everyone hf

Has anyone come up with a good theory, educated guess on the absorption maps yet ???

If our poles are our weakest points, why would the electron concentration be closer to the equator during a "non-solar event", and not necessarily dictated on whether sol facing or not ???

When looking at the the absorption maps during quiet periods in the past, there is a slight variation of increased absorption in sol facing areas, but never this significant unless we are in the midst of a strong geomagnetic storm.

Current absorption maps:

[link to sw22.spaceweather.usu.edu]

[link to www.gdgps.net]

The one I typically use has been down for a long time now.

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

And thanks Old Guard, for pointing out the SUPER hot spot over Hawaii in the Pacific last night, it's not making a lot of sense !!

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any thoughts on this guys? Thread: Reports of Meteor Blazing across sky [VIDEO]

April 2nd video report on this meteor blaze

[link to www.youtube.com]

Take COVER!!
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a good video editor can make anyone say anything the editor wants.
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Why so hihg for so long ?
[link to helios.izmiran.rssi.ru]
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Why so hihg for so long ?
[link to helios.izmiran.rssi.ru]
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SW increasing
[link to spaceweather.com]
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any thoughts on this guys? Thread: Reports of Meteor Blazing across sky [VIDEO]

April 2nd video report on this meteor blaze

[link to www.youtube.com]

Take COVER!!
 Quoting: FreedomMan 11591025

 Quoting: psyoptics


Can't wait to hear what MSMs analysis is !! LOL

It is very coincidental that the asteroid just happened to blow by in between earth and the moon around the same time.


And yes I do see the electron concentration moving westward, but still don't understand the intensity.
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that vapour trail looked like it was spinning...

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[link to www.amsmeteors.org]
look at the Haiku Hi pending report of a fire ball.
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when NASA states there was a crack that opens in the magnetosphere do we know where?

this last one...was it say over hawaii?

The reason for this show was the interplanetary magnetic field, or IMF. On April 1st the IMF tipped south, opening a crack in Earth's magnetospherre. Solar wind poured in to fuel the auroras. (So the sun was involved after all.)
[link to spaceweather.com]

i know the themis project has recorded a hole on the sun facing side the size the the entire planet.

i also see these cracks happening everytime we see SS 1429...connected?

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Why so hihg for so long ?
[link to helios.izmiran.rssi.ru]
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i was wondering the same???
looks like 2000 here
[link to neutronm.bartol.udel.edu]

[link to www.bartol.udel.edu]

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A small halo CME from early today is Earth-directed and should give us a "glancing blow" sometime around April 5. A coronal hole wind stream should be here around the same time; so expect some agitation to the magnetosphere in a few days.

SEEDS LASCO-based movie of CME;

[link to spaceweather.gmu.edu]

NASA Enlil CME cygnet:

[link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080]
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Why so hihg for so long ?
[link to helios.izmiran.rssi.ru]
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i was wondering the same???
looks like 2000 here
[link to neutronm.bartol.udel.edu]

[link to www.bartol.udel.edu]
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The Russian plot only shows a percentage of change.
[link to cr0.izmiran.rssi.ru]

It shows two spikes in early March from the X-flare proton events (cosmic rays from the Sun). Then we see a "Forbush decrease" around the time the CMEs reached us. As the AR1429 rotated away from Earth we see a gradual increase in Galactic Cosmic Rays (in fact, you can see the cycle of day and night).

I wish there were better explanations of these charts for interpretation; however the best I've found is the U of Del.site:


[link to neutronm.bartol.udel.edu]
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Space Daily has an interesting article on the impact of the recent X5 flare/proton event/CME. They casually mention that Cycle 24 will peak in late 2014. WTF? Where did this projection come from? The 11-year cycle maximum was originally predicted for 2012; then it was pushed back to early 2013. Is this a typo or did I miss something? wtf

"Sol 'waking up'
"It's been seven years since we've had a storm like that," he said. "This is the first major storm event since the deep solar minimum of 2008-2009. We are finally seeing the Sun 'wake up' as it proceeds to the next solar maximum."

A solar maximum is a period of increased activity on the Sun, and minimum-to-maximum-to-minimum cycles generally last 11 years each. Solar activity began to pick up in 2010, is steadily increasing and should peak in late 2014.

As the Sun becomes more active, Mlynczak said, it emits more ultraviolet radiation and produces more solar flares - coronal mass ejections (CMEs) - which are absorbed in the atmosphere. "More heating results, and the atmosphere gets warmer, and the infrared emission increases," he said.

"We don't know yet how these affect weather or climate - likely there is not any direct effect," he said, "but there may be, over time, influences on ozone that affect climate."

[link to www.spacedaily.com]
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when NASA states there was a crack that opens in the magnetosphere do we know where?

this last one...was it say over hawaii?

The reason for this show was the interplanetary magnetic field, or IMF. On April 1st the IMF tipped south, opening a crack in Earth's magnetospherre. Solar wind poured in to fuel the auroras. (So the sun was involved after all.)
[link to spaceweather.com]

i know the themis project has recorded a hole on the sun facing side the size the the entire planet.

i also see these cracks happening everytime we see SS 1429...connected?
 Quoting: psyoptics


does anyone have info on this...
the lastest data i can find in over 4 years old.

NASA has listed 6 cracks in the magentosphere in the last 2 months....where? how big? and how long did they last?

maybe it's just me but this seems kinda important.

cracks in our shield...
data gaps...or our satellites going off line for days...
when we would need them the most...
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Space Daily has an interesting article on the impact of the recent X5 flare/proton event/CME. They casually mention that Cycle 24 will peak in late 2014. WTF? Where did this projection come from? The 11-year cycle maximum was originally predicted for 2012; then it was pushed back to early 2013. Is this a typo or did I miss something? wtf

"Sol 'waking up'
"It's been seven years since we've had a storm like that," he said. "This is the first major storm event since the deep solar minimum of 2008-2009. We are finally seeing the Sun 'wake up' as it proceeds to the next solar maximum."

A solar maximum is a period of increased activity on the Sun, and minimum-to-maximum-to-minimum cycles generally last 11 years each. Solar activity began to pick up in 2010, is steadily increasing and should peak in late 2014.

As the Sun becomes more active, Mlynczak said, it emits more ultraviolet radiation and produces more solar flares - coronal mass ejections (CMEs) - which are absorbed in the atmosphere. "More heating results, and the atmosphere gets warmer, and the infrared emission increases," he said.

"We don't know yet how these affect weather or climate - likely there is not any direct effect," he said, "but there may be, over time, influences on ozone that affect climate."

[link to www.spacedaily.com]
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye

if i recall right solar cycle 4 was the longest at 13.7 years....at least that is what us humans have recorded.
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11 years ago one of the most powerful Xflares was observed from Sunspot 9393: (X20)



amazing how much more active the sun was back then!! I find the Lasco C2 especially stunning...
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Space Daily has an interesting article on the impact of the recent X5 flare/proton event/CME. They casually mention that Cycle 24 will peak in late 2014. WTF? Where did this projection come from? The 11-year cycle maximum was originally predicted for 2012; then it was pushed back to early 2013. Is this a typo or did I miss something? wtf

"Sol 'waking up'
"It's been seven years since we've had a storm like that," he said. "This is the first major storm event since the deep solar minimum of 2008-2009. We are finally seeing the Sun 'wake up' as it proceeds to the next solar maximum."

A solar maximum is a period of increased activity on the Sun, and minimum-to-maximum-to-minimum cycles generally last 11 years each. Solar activity began to pick up in 2010, is steadily increasing and should peak in late 2014.

As the Sun becomes more active, Mlynczak said, it emits more ultraviolet radiation and produces more solar flares - coronal mass ejections (CMEs) - which are absorbed in the atmosphere. "More heating results, and the atmosphere gets warmer, and the infrared emission increases," he said.

"We don't know yet how these affect weather or climate - likely there is not any direct effect," he said, "but there may be, over time, influences on ozone that affect climate."

[link to www.spacedaily.com]
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye

if i recall right solar cycle 4 was the longest at 13.7 years....at least that is what us humans have recorded.
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I think the reason for the push back is due to the prolongued minimum of SC23-24(which at first wasn`t anticipated)
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Re: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily)
Decent little flare from 1450...

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

Movie, red, about 18:00 to now.

SDO looks to be back in force.

Halpha looks interesting also, with a few sparks to boot..

[link to halpha.nso.edu]

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any thoughts on this guys? Thread: Reports of Meteor Blazing across sky [VIDEO]

April 2nd video report on this meteor blaze

[link to www.youtube.com]

Take COVER!!
 Quoting: FreedomMan 11591025

 Quoting: psyoptics


Can't wait to hear what MSMs analysis is !! LOL

It is very coincidental that the asteroid just happened to blow by in between earth and the moon around the same time.


And yes I do see the electron concentration moving westward, but still don't understand the intensity.
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Hugh .... this is what I need to know about ... please I need to know..... if you have ant insight, please.
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any thoughts on this guys? Thread: Reports of Meteor Blazing across sky [VIDEO]

April 2nd video report on this meteor blaze

[link to www.youtube.com]

Take COVER!!
 Quoting: FreedomMan 11591025

 Quoting: psyoptics


Can't wait to hear what MSMs analysis is !! LOL

It is very coincidental that the asteroid just happened to blow by in between earth and the moon around the same time.


And yes I do see the electron concentration moving westward, but still don't understand the intensity.
 Quoting: TS66


Hugh .... this is what I need to know about ... please I need to know..... if you have ant insight, please.
 Quoting: TS66

Looks like a good-sized bolide (fireball meteor) to me. Happens all the time, tho few are caught on video. I was thinking maybe the reported "big-boom" heard in the Pocono Mtns. recently may have been a meteor also, but the weathermen claim it was thunder.
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