SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily)

Heya Tomas,
Damn, looking again at that Magnetogram, looks like an intense buildup!
Interesting....
Peace

Here is a gif I made from the SDO magnetogram of this new region as it exploded onto the surface. They don't make it easy here with a 200 kb max for an animated gif..



Last Edited by tomasgod1 on 04/11/2012 11:18 AM

Shes on the rise again

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
Peace

Huge coronal hole triggered Sumatra M8.9.

Ooo..Sorry all : P

Endzeit.


The Final Resistance.

I'm wondering if the rise in the Ionospheric electrons for the past week or so had anything to do with the quake in Indonesia.

[link to www.ips.gov.au]

LOL, just posted the same thing on EL's thread..
Great minds think alike
Peace

over 3,000 people online since I looked before the quake even hit this morning and not even 1 mod. Really pathetic for paid members sakes. Here is a pic of what the sumatra quake looks like on Earthquake 3d for those that don't already hyave it.






if a mod ever gets around to approving these.:/

Last Edited by tomasgod1 on 04/11/2012 11:24 AM

New post on MY Solar Alerts..

Beginning at approximately 19:54UTC on April 10 2012 a new Sunspot Region exploded onto the surface in a spectacular display from new region S1576 [N07E23], having just emerged with an east-west inversion line. This region is not yet numbered by NOAA/SWPC, but it is anticipated that it will be numbered Region 1455 later on today...... read more...
[link to mysolaralerts.blogspot.com]

Look at all of these buoys that are in event mode now.
[link to www.ndbc.noaa.gov]

Have a question:

[link to seismo.info]

Mentions Elenin...didn't that disintigrate and is no longer an issue? figure you all will know and won't get the tinfoil hat info, lol

Smilie finally approved, so I will move here.

Question for all the sun people, my daugther brought home a school paper where the teacher gave them all the answers yet I'm confused on one.

What causes the nothern ligths on earth? The answer he gave them was solarwinds and magnetosphere.

Is that correct cause it just doesn't sound rigth, or is that the eastiest answer to give an 8th grader?

[link to image.gsfc.nasa.gov]

Severe trailing today mid mo., and very bad physical symptoms(ear tone fluctuations,low level body vibrations)usually signs of a big solar event?

Maybe quakes can influence TEC. I didn't find anything during a brief search to suggest that the converse is true.



General article stating that some studies indicate that elevated TEC can be used a pre-cursor signal to predict earthquake activity. Skeptics abound.

[link to physicsworld.com]


Abstract presenting preliminary results to the EGU in 2011...

"This study may lead to a better understanding of the response of the atmosphere /ionosphere to the Great Tohoku earthquake." Note atmosphere responding to quake not visa versa.

[link to arxiv.org]



Abstract of a peer reviewed article submitted to Geophysical Research Letters...

Two of the key points...

"Positive TEC anomaly appears before M9 class events
The anomaly occurs above the epicenter and lasts ~1 hour"

Note the anomaly lasts only 1 hour.

[link to www.agu.org]


An article submitted to the peer reviewed International Jourmal of Geophysics...

... where they take great pains to separate the solar flare, geomagnetic storm activity and long term variance in TEC (which certainly the daily TEC maps do not) to analyze whether or not ground based phenomena influences TEC prior to earthquake activity. Meaning that they believe that sources of TEC other than those generated by the earth have absolutely nothing to do with earthquake activity.

They believe there are pre-earthquake ground based sources which may. Some of the possible sources they suggest are...

"Recent research into earthquake-associated ionospheric anomalies has been able to show that associations do exist between earthquakes and ionospheric disturbance [3–6]. The precise mechanism(s) is not clear and a number of reasonable theories have been presented as to what may cause earthquake-associated TEC anomalies. These include a number of geochemical processes in the dilatant phase of earthquake preparation such as radon ionization, causing long-living ion clusters in the lower atmosphere [7], the activation of mobile positive holes in the earth’s crust, resulting in strong electric fields and activation of highly mobile electronic charge carriers in rocks near the earth’s surface [8, 9], and the release of CO2 gas [10] which could potentially destroy neutral clusters, resulting in the near ground layer becoming rich in ions [3]. The resultant lower-atmosphere electric field follows geomagnetic field lines into the ionosphere leading to the noted anomalies. Other potential causes are physical such as acoustic gravity waves. One possible cause of these is CO2 gas release creating turbulence in the lower atmosphere and another would be fine vibrations in the earth’s crust associated with earthquake preparation. Whatever the specific cause of these anomalies, researchers have been able to show that in many cases the observed anomalies have been earthquake related [3, 11]."

So they are suggesting numerous possible earth based mechanisms for a rise in TEC but even they do not specifically name which one or how much each might contribute to any specific elevated reading.

[link to www.hindawi.com]


In summary, the sources above would seem to indicate that, if there are anomalous rises in TEC prior to earthquakes, this rise might be very short term (as short as 1 hour as one study suggests). No one is saying TEC causes earthquakes. The studies that are in evidence suggest the exact opposite, that earthquakes might possibly influence TEC. Rise in TEC does not cause earthquakes. Nor the do the daily TEC maps have any predictive ability due to the fact that they do not factor out the backgound and solar induced TEC variations from their graphical data representations.

This is far from an exhaustive study though I'd be surprised (and contrite) to be proved wrong.

Sorry for wandering so far afield from the object of this thread. Luckily one of the articles mentioned solar. Flare on!

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Thank you for the wonderful website.

Coronal mass ejections (CMEs) from the Sun send out charged particles which interact with the Earth's magnetic field and atmosphere. When these charged particles come into the Earth's outer atmosphere - the ionosphere - they interact with molecules there to create light. Since the easiest ways for the particles to enter the Earth's atmosphere is near the magnetic north and south poles, those are the areas that most often experience auroras (auora borealis near the North Pole and aurora australis near the South Pole)

:aurora14feb2012:

and if this charged particles come into the outer atmosphere some of them collide with electrons orbiting the oxygen or nitrogen atoms and knock them up to a higher orbital (energy state). This excitation of the electrons is temporary and the electrons quickly pop back down to a lower orbital giving off energy in the form of photons of visible light as they do so. The resultant glow from a myriad of these interactions is what forms the aurora.


Here you have some nice Auroracams:


Aurorahunter.com
[link to aurorahunters.com]

Aurora Sky Station (Alaska)
[link to www.auroraskystation.com]

Kiruna All-Sky camera (Aurora)
[link to www.irf.se]

AuroraLIve(located Alaska)
[link to salmon.nict.go.jp]

Tromso all-sky camera
[link to polaris.nipr.ac.jp]

Earthcam(Aurora; located Reykjavik)
[link to www.earthcam.com]

AK Aurora cams(huge list)
[link to akweathercams.faa.gov]

AuroraMAX Canada
[link to www.asc-csa.gc.ca]



and if you watched some of the stunning Vids from the ISS...you will maybe noticed this glowing greenish-yellow band just above Earth’s limb

Its called Airglow

What is Airglow?

This light is most visible to the crew of the ISS when it is orbiting over the night side of the planet, and thus is seen in images like the one above. It appears like a thin band because viewing the atmosphere at a shallow angle – rather than directly down through it – increases the airglow layer’s relative visibility.


More:
[link to www.universetoday.com]

Closeup vids of the new one's little B-flare this morning...

[link to sdowww.lmsal.com]

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Thank you so much, I think you need a job in teaching. I had my daugther read what you wrote and she says you made more sense then the teacher, she learned more from your short answer then the 2 hours they spent talking about it. Also she can't wait to check out some of the cams.

Wow...im red now

But you might wonder if NInz,Tom or Hugh (and all other ppl from sunfamily) had answered to this

Still learning here for myself, around all this great ppl

Astronauts and rocket scientists send letter to NASA objecting to the agency's unsubstantiated claims concerning "man-made global climate change".--

March 28, 2012
The Honorable Charles Bolden, Jr.
NASA Administrator
NASA Headquarters
Washington, D.C. 20546-0001
Dear Charlie,
We, the undersigned, respectfully request that NASA and the Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) refrain from including unproven remarks in public releases and websites. We believe the claims by NASA and GISS, that man-made carbon dioxide is having a catastrophic impact on global climate change are not substantiated, especially when considering thousands of years of empirical data. With hundreds of well-known climate scientists and tens of thousands of other scientists publicly declaring their disbelief in the catastrophic forecasts, coming particularly from the GISS leadership, it is clear that the science is NOT settled.
The unbridled advocacy of CO2 being the major cause of climate change is unbecoming of NASA’s history of making an objective assessment of all available scientific data prior to making decisions or public statements.

View the full letter and list of signatories here:

[link to www.cfact.org]

Well shucks. Who ya gonna trust? A bunch of retired astronauts, engineers and administrators not beholding to NASA anymore or the impeccibly principled (who were sued in 2010 for a "...nearly three-year stonewall of access to internal documents exposing an abuse of taxpayer funds to advance the global warming agenda") and totally competent (if you omit "an admission to USA Today’s weather editor that NASA GISS is just a modeling office, using the temperature record of …CRU, the ClimateGate outfit. That means their “independent temperature record” is actually a recapitulation of one that …doesn’t exist, but was withdrawn as a result of ClimateGate when the custodians admitted they actually lost all original data") GISS.

[link to wattsupwiththat.com]

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Hehehehe. Load an SDO movie (or check the latest pic)... pretty big (mostly?) far side SE flare that starts around 16:00. It appears to have still been ongoing 2 hours later (probably not, eh?) when the camera nods and the time stamps come seconds apart until images end at 18:00.

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

Another maneuver evidently, right on time.
EVE Cruciform Maneuver 18:00

[link to lasp.colorado.edu]

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Hey Hugh, there was a pinned thread on this last night. Very interesting and refreshing read.

New comparison of ocean temperatures reveals rise over the last century
by Staff Writers
San Diego CA (SPX) Apr 04, 2012
Although the Challenger data set covers only some 300 temperature soundings (measurements from the sea surface down to the deep ocean) around the world, the information sets a baseline for temperature change in the world's oceans, which are now sampled continuously through Argo's unprecedented global coverage.
A new study contrasting ocean temperature readings of the 1870s with temperatures of the modern seas reveals an upward trend of global ocean warming spanning at least 100 years.
The research led by Scripps Institution of Oceanography at UC San Diego physical oceanographer Dean Roemmich shows a .33-degree Celsius (.59-degree Fahrenheit) average increase in the upper portions of the ocean to 700 meters (2,300 feet) depth.
The increase was largest at the ocean surface, .59-degree Celsius (1.1-degree Fahrenheit), decreasing to .12-degree Celsius (.22-degree Fahrenheit) at 900 meters (2,950 feet) depth.
The report is the first global comparison of temperature between the historic voyage of HMS Challenger (1872-1876) and modern data obtained by ocean-probing robots now continuously reporting temperatures via the global Argo program. Scientists have previously determined that nearly 90 percent of the excess heat added to Earth's climate system since the 1960s has been stored in the oceans

The full story is here:
[link to www.terradaily.com]

Global warming is not man made

Last Edited by joinca on 04/11/2012 06:38 PM

What was that?

Thread: DONT FORGET to look at SOHO - pics!!!

Can anyone tell me what happened? I linked the thread about it, and the soho link is in there. It looks damn scary...

Yes!!! Check out C3