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SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily)

 
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[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
X-Rays rising to c class levels as a sunspot that looks to be magnetically connected to the old monster 1479 rotates into view.
This looks like it's about to get interesting
[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
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Well almost, I'm sure you meant 1476, otherwise I wholeheartedly agree. Old monster still has some bite left, and his Little Buddy in the south looks to be growing in strength. We've recently had a C1.5 and a C1.2 from 1493 (or 94, depending on the coin flip, haha).

[link to www.lmsal.com]

Oh, well my fabulous smilies aren't forthcoming yet so I'll leave you with a link to the latest SDO 171a (yellow) image where you can see the trans-equatorial magnetic connection is much stronger in the east than in the west.

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
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[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
Here's the link you meant I believe. The magnetic loops are huge!
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I forgot to mention that a smallish chunk of filament has lifted off at mid-disk- south just below 1492. If any CME results from this, it will be Earth-directed. This, by my count, will be the second filament plasma eruption headed our way; in addition to a possible glancing blow from a previous eruption.

GONG H-alpha movie shows filament liftoff:

[link to halpha.nso.edu]

Pics still not ready, mods are asleep, as soon I will be...................
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[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
X-Rays rising to c class levels as a sunspot that looks to be magnetically connected to the old monster 1479 rotates into view.
This looks like it's about to get interesting
[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2159872
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Well almost, I'm sure you meant 1476, otherwise I wholeheartedly agree. Old monster still has some bite left, and his Little Buddy in the south looks to be growing in strength. We've recently had a C1.5 and a C1.2 from 1493 (or 94, depending on the coin flip, haha).

[link to www.lmsal.com]

Oh, well my fabulous smilies aren't forthcoming yet so I'll leave you with a link to the latest SDO 171a (yellow) image where you can see the trans-equatorial magnetic connection is much stronger in the east than in the west.

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
Here's the link you meant I believe. The magnetic loops are huge!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2159872


Hey, thanks for posting the correct link, guess I'm getting sloppy.beer2If you weren't an AC, I'd be obligated to reward your karma ;). Thanks again for paying attention.
smile_kiss

Here's the close-up HMI image of the OLD MONSTER-
:new-76:
Although he's old and frail compared to his former self (who isn't?): he 's still dominating the X-ray meters.
:eve 76:
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While researching the timing of the Carrington Event of 1859, I came across this interesting graph:

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
Try this link instead: [link to en.wikipedia.org]

Our limited observations show that THE SOLAR CYCLE HAS NEVER BEEN 11 YEARS! Solar cycles in recent centuries have varied from 9.0 years to 13.7 years: yet has NEVER been 11 years! The closest was 2 cycles which lasted 11.3 years. This 11-year-cycle is just an average, or maybe complete bullshit like so much else we've been told.

THEY REALLY DON'T KNOW SHIT! WE WATCH- because,collectively, we're doing the job (for free!) that the corporate-government can't get a handle on. Every year, last year's theory gets trashed and replaced by new hypotheses.
drevil

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We may be seeing some effects from the "glancing blow" CME now. The ACE solar wind density is creeping up now:

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

A very strange spike in the electron-proton plot could be from bad data--only 2 energy ranges show movement:

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

The GOES electron plot shows new activity in geo-space:

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Also, a large CME has appeared from the far side (southern hemisphere for those of you keeping score) and is visible on the STEREO Ahead movie:

[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
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DAMN, someone took a HUGE bite out of 'Big Bear'....AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHahhh
[link to halpha.nso.edu]
WEEEEZZZ Doomed.
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C1.5, C1.3 & a C1.2 this morning from the 1476 region [link to www.lmsal.com]

Good morning all, looks like old Sol is waking up a little ??? hf
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I liked the Inverted Sun so much I made a video of it. This was back on the 29th.

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I liked the Inverted Sun so much I made a video of it. This was back on the 29th.


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Certainly helps give the sun the impression of impending doom !!! :)
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I liked the Inverted Sun so much I made a video of it. This was back on the 29th.


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Certainly helps give the sun the impression of impending doom !!! :)
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It does look more Doomish this way. I thought with poor old Sol looking like he's on life support, this might make him look healthier.

groucho
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I liked the Inverted Sun so much I made a video of it. This was back on the 29th.


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Certainly helps give the sun the impression of impending doom !!! :)
 Quoting: TS66

It does look more Doomish this way. I thought with poor old Sol looking like he's on life support, this might make him look healthier.

groucho
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LOL, nice Tbar
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Wow, some action here :

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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Wow, some action here :

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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lol, you beat me to it TS66 applause2 Peace
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Wow, some action here :

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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lol, you beat me to it TS66 applause2 Peace
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sun
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STAND BACK!! CLEAR!!!................ ZAP!!!..... Phew! We have a heart beat again.....
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There's been another filament eruption in the west equatorial region (just south of AR1486). Any CME from this event could be Earth-directed. Wait for STEREO A and SOHO to update to see if there's a CME. The filament can be seen lifting off on the Mauna Loa H-alpha movie:

[link to halpha.nso.edu]

SDO image:

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

explosion
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Two new active regions are emerging in the southeast at approximately 25 and 55 degrees east. Both of these regions are west of the Little Buddy spot. Boy, it looks like the Numbers Dept. will be busy today.

Latest SDO/HMI hi-res intensitygram:

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
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While researching the timing of the Carrington Event of 1859, I came across this interesting graph:

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
Try this link instead: [link to en.wikipedia.org]

Our limited observations show that THE SOLAR CYCLE HAS NEVER BEEN 11 YEARS! Solar cycles in recent centuries have varied from 9.0 years to 13.7 years: yet has NEVER been 11 years! The closest was 2 cycles which lasted 11.3 years. This 11-year-cycle is just an average, or maybe complete bullshit like so much else we've been told.

THEY REALLY DON'T KNOW SHIT! WE WATCH- because,collectively, we're doing the job (for free!) that the corporate-government can't get a handle on. Every year, last year's theory gets trashed and replaced by new hypotheses.
drevil
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


Yep,yep and triple yep!

Solar Science is not a closed case,no-where near infact that is why all the sleuthing and watching done by all the great Folks here on this thread is just as valuable as the data we receive back from those who's profession it is to interpret and then predict future conditions from the same Solar Data and Images we trawl through.

This thread is a Solar blessing.

Original Respect to NiNz for starting it.

Last Edited by Spittin'Cesium on 05/31/2012 07:23 PM
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is That which shall be;
and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
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While researching the timing of the Carrington Event of 1859, I came across this interesting graph:

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
Try this link instead: [link to en.wikipedia.org]

Our limited observations show that THE SOLAR CYCLE HAS NEVER BEEN 11 YEARS! Solar cycles in recent centuries have varied from 9.0 years to 13.7 years: yet has NEVER been 11 years! The closest was 2 cycles which lasted 11.3 years. This 11-year-cycle is just an average, or maybe complete bullshit like so much else we've been told.

THEY REALLY DON'T KNOW SHIT! WE WATCH- because,collectively, we're doing the job (for free!) that the corporate-government can't get a handle on. Every year, last year's theory gets trashed and replaced by new hypotheses.
drevil
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


Yep,yep and triple yep!

Solar Science is not a closed case,no-where near infact that is why all the sleuthing and watching done by all the great Folks here on this thread is just as valuable as the data we receive back from those who's profession it is to interpret and then predict future conditions from the same Solar Data and Images we trawl through.

This thread is a Solar blessing.

Original Respect to NiNz for starting it.
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and to you SC, HME, TS66 and the rest that also keep this thread updated like it is..
i thoroughly 'enjoy' this thread guys.. eventhough i'm not the solar wizz that others are, i already was very interested in our sun , this thread also turned me into a 'suntard' if i may use that expression... hf

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While researching the timing of the Carrington Event of 1859, I came across this interesting graph:

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
Try this link instead: [link to en.wikipedia.org]

Our limited observations show that THE SOLAR CYCLE HAS NEVER BEEN 11 YEARS! Solar cycles in recent centuries have varied from 9.0 years to 13.7 years: yet has NEVER been 11 years! The closest was 2 cycles which lasted 11.3 years. This 11-year-cycle is just an average, or maybe complete bullshit like so much else we've been told.

THEY REALLY DON'T KNOW SHIT! WE WATCH- because,collectively, we're doing the job (for free!) that the corporate-government can't get a handle on. Every year, last year's theory gets trashed and replaced by new hypotheses.
drevil
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


Yep,yep and triple yep!

Solar Science is not a closed case,no-where near infact that is why all the sleuthing and watching done by all the great Folks here on this thread is just as valuable as the data we receive back from those who's profession it is to interpret and then predict future conditions from the same Solar Data and Images we trawl through.

This thread is a Solar blessing.

Original Respect to NiNz for starting it.
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium



and to you SC, HME, TS66 and the rest that also keep this thread updated like it is..
i thoroughly 'enjoy' this thread guys.. eventhough i'm not the solar wizz that others are, i already was very interested in our sun , this thread also turned me into a 'suntard' if i may use that expression... hf
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LOL- AInt we all? tantrum
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Thanks for the shout out, but we are missing Nin, IWTB76, and TG1 (pops in now and then) . Hope to see them soon, would love to know their interpretation of this lull, and hope that all is well for them.

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Hubble shows Milky Way is destined for head-on collision with Andromeda galaxy

May 31, 2012

"After nearly a century of speculation about the future destiny of Andromeda and our Milky Way, we at last have a clear picture of how events will unfold over the coming billions of years," said Sangmo Tony Sohn of STScI.

The scenario is like a baseball batter watching an oncoming fastball. Although Andromeda is approaching us more than 2,000 times faster, it will take 4 billion years before the strike.

Computer simulations derived from Hubble's data show that it will take an additional two billion years after the encounter for the interacting galaxies to completely merge under the tug of gravity and reshape into a single elliptical galaxy similar to the kind commonly seen in the local universe.

Full Story-- [link to phys.org]
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Enceladus plume is a new kind of plasma laboratory

May 31, 2012



(Phys.org) -- Recent findings from NASA's Cassini mission reveal that Saturn's geyser moon Enceladus provides a special laboratory for watching unusual behavior of plasma, or hot ionized gas. In these recent findings, some Cassini scientists think they have observed "dusty plasma," a condition theorized but not previously observed on site, near Enceladus.

Full story--- [link to phys.org]
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Science nugget: Catching solar particles infiltrating Earth's atmosphere

May 31, 2012 by Karen C. Fox

(Phys.org) -- On May 17, 2012 an M-class flare exploded from the sun. The eruption also shot out a burst of solar particles traveling at nearly the speed of light that reached Earth about 20 minutes after the light from the flare. An M-class flare is considered a "moderate" flare, at least ten times less powerful than the largest X-class flares, but the particles sent out on May 17 were so fast and energetic that when they collided with atoms in Earth's atmosphere, they caused a shower of particles to cascade down toward Earth's surface. The shower created what's called a ground level enhancement (GLE).
full story-- [link to phys.org]
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Three of the four new active regions have now been numbered officially. The returning 1476 is now 1493 and the large spot on the Southeast limb is 1494. Between the limb and mid-disk in the south are two emerging spots, and the one nearest to 1492 has been numbered 1495. The other one remains un-numbered.

:Product: Solar Region Summary
:Issued: 2012 Jun 01 0030 UTC
# Prepared jointly by the U.S. Dept. of Commerce, NOAA,
# Space Weather Prediction Center and the U.S. Air Force.
#
Joint USAF/NOAA Solar Region Summary
SRS Number 153 Issued at 0030Z on 01 Jun 2012
Report compiled from data received at SWO on 31 May
I. Regions with Sunspots. Locations Valid at 31/2400Z
Nmbr Location Lo Area Z LL NN Mag Type
1490 S13W36 309 0110 Dso 09 06 Beta
1492 S13W11 284 0100 Eso 11 09 Beta
1493 N15E64 208 0040 Dso 05 02 Beta
1494 S16E69 204 0050 Hsx 03 01 Alpha
1495 S12E19 254 0030 Cro 03 05 Beta

IA. H-alpha Plages without Spots. Locations Valid at 31/2400Z May
Nmbr Location Lo
1488 N12W73 346
1489 S30W72 345
II. Regions Due to Return 01 Jun to 03 Jun
Nmbr Lat Lo
1477 S17 157
1478 S24 145


As 1493 turns towards us we can see more spots.
:AR1493:

AR1494 has been classified as Alpha, but at least one more small spot can be seen trailing. I predict NOAA will correct this to Beta if the spot lingers or grows.
:Little Buddy2:
From left to right, this HMI image shows 1494, 1496(?), & 1495.
:1494-95:
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Science nugget: Catching solar particles infiltrating Earth's atmosphere

May 31, 2012 by Karen C. Fox

(Phys.org) -- On May 17, 2012 an M-class flare exploded from the sun. The eruption also shot out a burst of solar particles traveling at nearly the speed of light that reached Earth about 20 minutes after the light from the flare. An M-class flare is considered a "moderate" flare, at least ten times less powerful than the largest X-class flares, but the particles sent out on May 17 were so fast and energetic that when they collided with atoms in Earth's atmosphere, they caused a shower of particles to cascade down toward Earth's surface. The shower created what's called a ground level enhancement (GLE).
full story-- [link to phys.org]
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Thanks, Nerdrage, this explains the spike in the neutron monitors someone posted about that night. Surprisingly, they state that this was the first GLE of the current solar cycle. I would've guessed that those two huge proton storms we saw earlier this year produced measurable GLE's as well. This tells me that maybe other factors are playing a role.

I found the plots from the ICETOP Neutron Monitor for May 17:

[link to www.bartol.udel.edu]

They're also Beta-testing a GLE Alarm which sends you an e-mail alert--sign up here:
[link to www.bartol.udel.edu]

PEACE.
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The giant coronal hole now has the appearance of.....

a) Big Bird from Sesame St.

b) the San Diego Chicken mascot

c) Howard the Duck

d) Grampa Simpson

e) Other-What do you see?

bigbird-chicken
:howard duck:

SDO 211a image:

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

SDO composite images:

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
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The giant coronal hole now has the appearance of.....

a) Big Bird from Sesame St.

b) the San Diego Chicken mascot

c) Howard the Duck

d) Grampa Simpson

e) Other-What do you see?

bigbird-chicken
:howard duck:

SDO 211a image:

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

SDO composite images:

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


LMAOohno
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The giant coronal hole now has the appearance of.....

a) Big Bird from Sesame St.

b) the San Diego Chicken mascot

c) Howard the Duck

d) Grampa Simpson

e) Other-What do you see?

bigbird-chicken
:howard duck:

SDO 211a image:

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

SDO composite images:

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


Definately chicken man...lol..Good morning all





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