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Good summation, but I don't go with your view of NASA, Lockheed, NOAA being incompetent, these guys are the ones responsible for the DATA you use for your predictions, they have been staring at the sun far longer than I have, I don't even always care which spot is popping off flares when I am revising my whole way of thinking about the sun. What other branch is leading the way to a correct description of whats going on in the Universe?

And it must be tough doing that job when you can't just say what you think and know for security reasons, seriously, in this day and age do you really think they can come out and talk about huge discoveries in Physics without political consequences? I would just like to see us get back to the business of manned space exploration, it might give this planet some hope for a positive future.

I may be wrong but I believe in thinking BIG when it comes to goals, Kennedy said it good. We have plenty of issues to think big about at the moment.

I don't believe they are incompetent either, just that it is somewhat disconcerting that they are not using their own technology to report accurately. Let's face it, knowing which sunspot just blew off the latest big flare is pretty important considering it gives us advanced warning of whether the resulting CME is directed at/or to what extent it will impact the earth (or not).

Not as much as you think, anyway, that's only my opinion and I actually was wrong once before haha, I just know from experience that its easy to second guess, have a little faith.

hello to all Suntards, it IS good to be alive to see all this!

Point taken, Onthehook. I suppose "incompetent" may have been an imprecise term to express my meaning. Of course NASA and Lockheed are unsurpassed in their engineering, launching, and maintaining communication with a wide variety of satellites and space probes (and space weapons). Obviously they're not incompetent in this regard, but at the apex of human technological know-how.

The incompetence I was referring to can be more accurately characterized as UNCARING, INATTENTIVE or LAZY. These attributes seem to be endemic to most large bureaucratic organizations. The young go-getters, eager to make their mark, come up against the HUGE GREY WALL of bureaucracy and organizational hierarchy. Usually the grey wall wins and apathy sets in as a matter of course. Folks tend to go-along-to-get-along, punch the clock and go home. When slip-ups occur, it's "not my job", or someone else's fault. NASA is a huge government agency and Lockheed is probably 50x huger (a shadow-government agency spanning the globe). Yesterday's miscue was not a simple error or glitch soon corrected, but a glaring blunder which went uncorrected for 15 hours or more. I'm only sharing my astonishment at this, but it's possible there were extenuating circumstances that we'll never learn about. I'd like to think that the pros are more attentive and reliable than GLP, and I was stunned and thrilled that we got it right and got it immediately right.

The two new regions I mentioned earlier today have been officially number 1506 (in the NE) and 1507 in the south.

:Product: Solar Region Summary
:Issued: 2012 Jun 11 0030 UTC
# Prepared jointly by the U.S. Dept. of Commerce, NOAA,
# Space Weather Prediction Center and the U.S. Air Force.
#
Joint USAF/NOAA Solar Region Summary
SRS Number 163 Issued at 0030Z on 11 Jun 2012
Report compiled from data received at SWO on 10 Jun
I. Regions with Sunspots. Locations Valid at 10/2400Z
Nmbr Location Lo Area Z LL NN Mag Type
1493 N16W80 220 0060 Hax 02 01 Alpha
1494 S16W60 250 0070 Hkx 03 01 Alpha
1496 N17W62 202 0010 Axx 01 01 Alpha
1497 S22W83 224 0080 Cao 06 06 Beta
1499 N16W38 178 0050 Cao 06 11 Beta-Gamma
1504 S18E51 089 0120 Dai 10 07 Beta
1505 S10E51 089 0050 Dao 06 03 Beta
1506 N11E66 074 0050 Cao 02 02 Beta
1507 S26E29 111 0060 Dao 09 05 Beta
IA. H-alpha Plages without Spots. Locations Valid at 10/2400Z Jun
Nmbr Location Lo
1498 N07W52 193
1501 N07W75 216
1502 S17W44 185
II. Regions Due to Return 11 Jun to 13 Jun
Nmbr Lat Lo
1491 N22 036
1486 N16 034

Still watching for possible CME effects. I'm pretty sure that the first one (which was expected to arrive 24 hrs. ago) missed Earth altogether. I won't be too surprised if the second one also misses. ACE solar wind data shows a slight uptick in density, so we'll wait and see what develops.

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

We seem to be seeing some effects from the CME arrival at Earth.

GOES Electron flux:

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

GOES Magnetometer:

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Boulder's Magnetometer shows a K=index of 4.1 (no alerts so far):

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Active region 1504 (and '05) seem to be growing. I expect to see more M-flares and possibly X-flares.
SATURDAY-
:mighty mouse HMI:
NOW-
:1504growth:

Last Edited by Hugh M Eye on 06/11/2012 04:56 AM

NASA's SDO website's "latest image" of composite w/ mag-field lines is dated June 3rd! More than a week old!!! Please note the Lockheed logo in the lower right-hand corner. I guess they're very busy getting ready for World War IV.

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

LOL...WWIV?...shit, did i miss another war?

Peace

Good morning everyone

You are going to find that in any large agency "Constrained by their draft" Lots of politics - I just get tired of Everyone ragging on NASA, seems to me they get the job done, usually with stunning success. USGS is good too. Credit should go where it is deserved.

You can keep them in line for us. ha ha

Been pretty much flatlined for a while..wtf....

just crazy seeing this issue happen with SDO
those guys are usually right on top of things
:/

hey, with all the zombie stuff in Florida and elsewhere, i saw this this morning and got a bit nervous about it

huge red spot showing over Florida on the NOAA Radar
wtf is that? anyone see that before?
[link to radar.weather.gov]

here is the large map where you can see the red as well
[link to radar.weather.gov]

Top link won't work, I was trying to be nice by just ignoring another birthday ( ha ha) that's the way I look at it anyway.

WTF?

I think I saw it but it disappeared when I zoomed in, looking at the weather patterns makes me think that Dutchsince is right, the weather radars show more backscatter at times do to more energy coming from somewhere - I seriously doubt that it is haarp energy, just more electricity pumping through the planet is part of it. Also I think the "Big One" is coming from west of the New Madrid fault line if you look at all the energy going into the Wx systems.
[link to www.intellicast.com]

I was actually thinking it has to do something with the water Ions or charge, just another guess though.

What do you make of this? PDF
Do you think there are correlations with recent anomalies?

[link to www.astrophys-space-sci-trans.net]

[snip]

Solar activity and the associated ground level enhancements of solar
cosmic rays during solar cycle 23

~

Scalar weaponry showing charge

It's nothing.. seriously. I have seen that happen before and asked my husband who is a combat weather forecaster and he explained it to me. I just cannot remember what he said it was exactly. If I remember I will ask again and get back to you guys

About the PDF, well if the earth had a plasma core it could act like a particle generator/accelerator, I think the current core theories were developed to fit existing knowledge at the time - we have a lot more knowledge now.

The base line is slowly rising...due for another flare.

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Last Edited by <<LOOK`n thru YOU>> on 06/11/2012 12:34 PM

Here is a clip on the LASCO C2 web site that just happened:
2012/06/11 09:48:05
[link to spaceweather.gmu.edu]

Space Weather Message Code: WARK04
Serial Number: 1944
Issue Time: 2012 Jun 11 1854 UTC

WARNING: Geomagnetic K-index of 4 expected
Valid From: 2012 Jun 11 1900 UTC
Valid To: 2012 Jun 11 2359 UTC
Warning Condition: Onset
Potential Impacts: Area of impact primarily poleward of 65 degrees Geomagnetic Latitude.
Induced Currents - Weak power grid fluctuations can occur.
Aurora - Aurora may be visible at high latitudes such as Canada and Alaska.
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

GOES electron flux:

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

GOES magnetometer:

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

I ordered one of the DVD's from "Thunderbolts" from the latest conference, it was about the new research on water, they found plasma cell structures even in the steam from a cup of coffee, very convincing and there is very much we still have not studied. Also much more in the DVD, these new discoveries have the effect of adding much to any chemical reaction with water as a component. Interesting, at least to me.