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Anonymous Coward User ID: 17392454 United States 06/10/2012 08:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Onthehook User ID: 7670361 United States 06/10/2012 12:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good summation, but I don't go with your view of NASA, Lockheed, NOAA being incompetent, these guys are the ones responsible for the DATA you use for your predictions, they have been staring at the sun far longer than I have, I don't even always care which spot is popping off flares when I am revising my whole way of thinking about the sun. What other branch is leading the way to a correct description of whats going on in the Universe? |
Onthehook User ID: 7670361 United States 06/10/2012 12:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And it must be tough doing that job when you can't just say what you think and know for security reasons, seriously, in this day and age do you really think they can come out and talk about huge discoveries in Physics without political consequences? I would just like to see us get back to the business of manned space exploration, it might give this planet some hope for a positive future. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 17392454 United States 06/10/2012 12:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good summation, but I don't go with your view of NASA, Lockheed, NOAA being incompetent, these guys are the ones responsible for the DATA you use for your predictions, they have been staring at the sun far longer than I have, I don't even always care which spot is popping off flares when I am revising my whole way of thinking about the sun. What other branch is leading the way to a correct description of whats going on in the Universe? Quoting: Onthehook 7670361 I don't believe they are incompetent either, just that it is somewhat disconcerting that they are not using their own technology to report accurately. Let's face it, knowing which sunspot just blew off the latest big flare is pretty important considering it gives us advanced warning of whether the resulting CME is directed at/or to what extent it will impact the earth (or not). |
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Hugh M Eye User ID: 15388345 United States 06/10/2012 10:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good summation, but I don't go with your view of NASA, Lockheed, NOAA being incompetent, these guys are the ones responsible for the DATA you use for your predictions, they have been staring at the sun far longer than I have, I don't even always care which spot is popping off flares when I am revising my whole way of thinking about the sun. What other branch is leading the way to a correct description of whats going on in the Universe? Quoting: Onthehook 7670361 Point taken, Onthehook. I suppose "incompetent" may have been an imprecise term to express my meaning. Of course NASA and Lockheed are unsurpassed in their engineering, launching, and maintaining communication with a wide variety of satellites and space probes (and space weapons). Obviously they're not incompetent in this regard, but at the apex of human technological know-how. The incompetence I was referring to can be more accurately characterized as UNCARING, INATTENTIVE or LAZY. These attributes seem to be endemic to most large bureaucratic organizations. The young go-getters, eager to make their mark, come up against the HUGE GREY WALL of bureaucracy and organizational hierarchy. Usually the grey wall wins and apathy sets in as a matter of course. Folks tend to go-along-to-get-along, punch the clock and go home. When slip-ups occur, it's "not my job", or someone else's fault. NASA is a huge government agency and Lockheed is probably 50x huger (a shadow-government agency spanning the globe). Yesterday's miscue was not a simple error or glitch soon corrected, but a glaring blunder which went uncorrected for 15 hours or more. I'm only sharing my astonishment at this, but it's possible there were extenuating circumstances that we'll never learn about. I'd like to think that the pros are more attentive and reliable than GLP, and I was stunned and thrilled that we got it right and got it immediately right. |
Hugh M Eye User ID: 15388345 United States 06/10/2012 11:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The two new regions I mentioned earlier today have been officially number 1506 (in the NE) and 1507 in the south. :Product: Solar Region Summary :Issued: 2012 Jun 11 0030 UTC # Prepared jointly by the U.S. Dept. of Commerce, NOAA, # Space Weather Prediction Center and the U.S. Air Force. # Joint USAF/NOAA Solar Region Summary SRS Number 163 Issued at 0030Z on 11 Jun 2012 Report compiled from data received at SWO on 10 Jun I. Regions with Sunspots. Locations Valid at 10/2400Z Nmbr Location Lo Area Z LL NN Mag Type 1493 N16W80 220 0060 Hax 02 01 Alpha 1494 S16W60 250 0070 Hkx 03 01 Alpha 1496 N17W62 202 0010 Axx 01 01 Alpha 1497 S22W83 224 0080 Cao 06 06 Beta 1499 N16W38 178 0050 Cao 06 11 Beta-Gamma 1504 S18E51 089 0120 Dai 10 07 Beta 1505 S10E51 089 0050 Dao 06 03 Beta 1506 N11E66 074 0050 Cao 02 02 Beta 1507 S26E29 111 0060 Dao 09 05 Beta IA. H-alpha Plages without Spots. Locations Valid at 10/2400Z Jun Nmbr Location Lo 1498 N07W52 193 1501 N07W75 216 1502 S17W44 185 II. Regions Due to Return 11 Jun to 13 Jun Nmbr Lat Lo 1491 N22 036 1486 N16 034 Still watching for possible CME effects. I'm pretty sure that the first one (which was expected to arrive 24 hrs. ago) missed Earth altogether. I won't be too surprised if the second one also misses. ACE solar wind data shows a slight uptick in density, so we'll wait and see what develops. [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] |
Hugh M Eye User ID: 15388345 United States 06/11/2012 04:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We seem to be seeing some effects from the CME arrival at Earth. GOES Electron flux: [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] GOES Magnetometer: [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] Boulder's Magnetometer shows a K=index of 4.1 (no alerts so far): [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] Active region 1504 (and '05) seem to be growing. I expect to see more M-flares and possibly X-flares. SATURDAY- :mighty mouse HMI: NOW- :1504growth: Last Edited by Hugh M Eye on 06/11/2012 04:56 AM |
Hugh M Eye User ID: 15388345 United States 06/11/2012 05:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov] |
nerdrage88sasr User ID: 17640965 Australia 06/11/2012 05:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | NASA's SDO website's "latest image" of composite w/ mag-field lines is dated June 3rd! More than a week old!!! Please note the Lockheed logo in the lower right-hand corner. I guess they're very busy getting ready for World War IV. Quoting: Hugh M Eye [link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov] LOL...WWIV?...shit, did i miss another war? Peace "Luck is what happens when preparation meets Oppurtunity"-- Seneca (5BC-65AD) |
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Onthehook User ID: 7670361 United States 06/11/2012 08:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You are going to find that in any large agency "Constrained by their draft" Lots of politics - I just get tired of Everyone ragging on NASA, seems to me they get the job done, usually with stunning success. USGS is good too. Credit should go where it is deserved. |
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NiNzrez (OP) User ID: 12844841 United States 06/11/2012 11:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | NASA's SDO website's "latest image" of composite w/ mag-field lines is dated June 3rd! More than a week old!!! Please note the Lockheed logo in the lower right-hand corner. I guess they're very busy getting ready for World War IV. Quoting: Hugh M Eye [link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov] just crazy seeing this issue happen with SDO those guys are usually right on top of things :/ Join Me On The GLP SOLAR WATCH Thread Thread: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily) |
NiNzrez (OP) User ID: 12844841 United States 06/11/2012 11:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | hey, with all the zombie stuff in Florida and elsewhere, i saw this this morning and got a bit nervous about it huge red spot showing over Florida on the NOAA Radar wtf is that? anyone see that before? [link to radar.weather.gov] here is the large map where you can see the red as well [link to radar.weather.gov] Join Me On The GLP SOLAR WATCH Thread Thread: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily) |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1295673 United States 06/11/2012 11:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | hey, with all the zombie stuff in Florida and elsewhere, i saw this this morning and got a bit nervous about it Quoting: NiNzrez huge red spot showing over Florida on the NOAA Radar wtf is that? anyone see that before? [link to radar.weather.gov] here is the large map where you can see the red as well [link to radar.weather.gov] WTF? |
Onthehook User ID: 7670361 United States 06/11/2012 11:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.intellicast.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1295673 United States 06/11/2012 11:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What do you make of this? PDF Do you think there are correlations with recent anomalies? [link to www.astrophys-space-sci-trans.net] [snip] Solar activity and the associated ground level enhancements of solar cosmic rays during solar cycle 23 ~ |
shadasonic User ID: 15732022 United States 06/11/2012 12:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was actually thinking it has to do something with the water Ions or charge, just another guess though. Quoting: Onthehook 7670361 Scalar weaponry showing charge “One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5746351 United States 06/11/2012 12:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | hey, with all the zombie stuff in Florida and elsewhere, i saw this this morning and got a bit nervous about it Quoting: NiNzrez huge red spot showing over Florida on the NOAA Radar wtf is that? anyone see that before? [link to radar.weather.gov] here is the large map where you can see the red as well [link to radar.weather.gov] WTF? It's nothing.. seriously. I have seen that happen before and asked my husband who is a combat weather forecaster and he explained it to me. I just cannot remember what he said it was exactly. If I remember I will ask again and get back to you guys |
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<<LOOK`n thru YOU>> User ID: 1528083 United States 06/11/2012 12:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The base line is slowly rising...due for another flare. [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] Last Edited by <<LOOK`n thru YOU>> on 06/11/2012 12:34 PM |
joinca User ID: 8793176 United States 06/11/2012 01:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is a clip on the LASCO C2 web site that just happened: 2012/06/11 09:48:05 [link to spaceweather.gmu.edu] "The government will one day be corrupt and full of liars, and the people will flock to the one that tells the truth." - “Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the citizenry.” - "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." - "I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them." - "A Country with no Border, is not a country" -- Thomas Jefferson We MUST NEVER forget what Kamala Harris did to Justice Kavanaugh & his family! |
Hugh M Eye User ID: 15388345 United States 06/11/2012 03:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Space Weather Message Code: WARK04 Serial Number: 1944 Issue Time: 2012 Jun 11 1854 UTC WARNING: Geomagnetic K-index of 4 expected Valid From: 2012 Jun 11 1900 UTC Valid To: 2012 Jun 11 2359 UTC Warning Condition: Onset Potential Impacts: Area of impact primarily poleward of 65 degrees Geomagnetic Latitude. Induced Currents - Weak power grid fluctuations can occur. Aurora - Aurora may be visible at high latitudes such as Canada and Alaska. [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] GOES electron flux: [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] GOES magnetometer: [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] |
Onthehook User ID: 7670361 United States 06/11/2012 05:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I ordered one of the DVD's from "Thunderbolts" from the latest conference, it was about the new research on water, they found plasma cell structures even in the steam from a cup of coffee, very convincing and there is very much we still have not studied. Also much more in the DVD, these new discoveries have the effect of adding much to any chemical reaction with water as a component. Interesting, at least to me. |