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Anonymous Coward User ID: 6377684 Canada 06/14/2012 07:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The quadrupole magnetic field isn't an uncommon phenomenon. I agree with Tom that the Japanese Hinode team is over-hyping this observation (maybe to get their minds off of Fukushima). Dr. Strong (I know, he's a goofball sometimes) did a decent video explaining the Sun's magnetic pole flip and the cause of the quadrupole. Quoting: Hugh M Eye [link to www.youtube.com] I'm confused by this video. He describes quadrupole as being 4 temporary bands (+/-/+/-) going down latitudinally while the sun sorts itself out during the transition. However what Hinode means by quadrupole, is two + polarities on the north and south pole, balanced out by two - polarities on the equator. (Diagram) [link to www.setyoufreenews.com] (+/-/-/+). Also, it isn't to be temporary or transitional, but stay that way the whole upcoming cycle, after which the south pole may or may not return to scheduled programming and flip. Then Strong goes on to say this situation has occurred the last 3 cycles. But he's talking about the North and South poles having the same polarity, again, temporarily or transitionally, en route to completing the flip and then having the usual opposing polarities for the duration of the cycle. Hinode is describing North and South poles of the same polarity for at least one entire cycle. Of those 3 previous cycles he refers to, each time unanimous polarity occurred the unflipped pole was weakening and visibly en route to joining it's colleague in the reboot process. This time, as of yet there is no weakening in the unflipped pole, no evidence of an attempt to flip. That is what is new and unusual, the prospect of only one pole resetting this solar max. Do you really think the scientists at NASA and Hinode missed such obvious details as are being pointed out in this video? Does that make any sense at all? Not only is this video very strange, Strong then goes on to release another video May 22 ( [link to www.youtube.com] wherein he brags that nothing has happened with the poles. Except if he simply checked the polar field strength ( [link to wso.stanford.edu] he would see that effective May 22, ironically, the North polar field shut down and rebooted in the opposite polarity. AKA, it flipped. At this point this guy seems pretty silly in my eyes. I'm surprised there's been almost zero discussion of this here. The North just flipped and the South isn't budging at all, it's extremely interesting. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1540313 United States 06/14/2012 08:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | M and M two CME's to hit the earth at once on the 16th wow. [link to www.spaceweather.com] nice graphic here. Double whammy. |
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El Quisqueyano User ID: 17895130 United States 06/14/2012 08:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | M and M two CME's to hit the earth at once on the 16th wow. Quoting: SpiderJones [link to www.spaceweather.com] nice graphic here. Double whammy. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1540313 United States 06/14/2012 08:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The quadrupole magnetic field isn't an uncommon phenomenon. I agree with Tom that the Japanese Hinode team is over-hyping this observation (maybe to get their minds off of Fukushima). Dr. Strong (I know, he's a goofball sometimes) did a decent video explaining the Sun's magnetic pole flip and the cause of the quadrupole. Quoting: Hugh M Eye [link to www.youtube.com] I'm confused by this video. He describes quadrupole as being 4 temporary bands (+/-/+/-) going down latitudinally while the sun sorts itself out during the transition. However what Hinode means by quadrupole, is two + polarities on the north and south pole, balanced out by two - polarities on the equator. (Diagram) [link to www.setyoufreenews.com] (+/-/-/+). Also, it isn't to be temporary or transitional, but stay that way the whole upcoming cycle, after which the south pole may or may not return to scheduled programming and flip. Then Strong goes on to say this situation has occurred the last 3 cycles. But he's talking about the North and South poles having the same polarity, again, temporarily or transitionally, en route to completing the flip and then having the usual opposing polarities for the duration of the cycle. Hinode is describing North and South poles of the same polarity for at least one entire cycle. Of those 3 previous cycles he refers to, each time unanimous polarity occurred the unflipped pole was weakening and visibly en route to joining it's colleague in the reboot process. This time, as of yet there is no weakening in the unflipped pole, no evidence of an attempt to flip. That is what is new and unusual, the prospect of only one pole resetting this solar max. Do you really think the scientists at NASA and Hinode missed such obvious details as are being pointed out in this video? Does that make any sense at all? Not only is this video very strange, Strong then goes on to release another video May 22 ( [link to www.youtube.com] wherein he brags that nothing has happened with the poles. Except if he simply checked the polar field strength ( [link to wso.stanford.edu] he would see that effective May 22, ironically, the North polar field shut down and rebooted in the opposite polarity. AKA, it flipped. At this point this guy seems pretty silly in my eyes. I'm surprised there's been almost zero discussion of this here. The North just flipped and the South isn't budging at all, it's extremely interesting. The Sun is the Sun, and it's interior still has many mysteries- it's weird that the North magnetic pole could change w/o the south changing also. I get a pain between my ears trying to wrap my head around that one! |
Onthehook User ID: 7670361 United States 06/14/2012 08:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | More GLE's at McMurdo? [link to neutronm.bartol.udel.edu] |
shadasonic User ID: 15732022 United States 06/14/2012 08:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | M and M two CME's to hit the earth at once on the 16th wow. Quoting: SpiderJones [link to www.spaceweather.com] nice graphic here. Double whammy. Love that one “One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan |
Onthehook User ID: 7670361 United States 06/14/2012 08:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Over time if you watch the sun after the CME's I have noticed what looks like the sun staying connected to the CME through the Parker spiral, a brightening on the COR pics in either the Northern or Southern poles, may be something if you can figure out what I am saying ha ha |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6377684 Canada 06/14/2012 08:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The quadrupole magnetic field isn't an uncommon phenomenon. I agree with Tom that the Japanese Hinode team is over-hyping this observation (maybe to get their minds off of Fukushima). Dr. Strong (I know, he's a goofball sometimes) did a decent video explaining the Sun's magnetic pole flip and the cause of the quadrupole. Quoting: Hugh M Eye [link to www.youtube.com] I'm confused by this video. He describes quadrupole as being 4 temporary bands (+/-/+/-) going down latitudinally while the sun sorts itself out during the transition. However what Hinode means by quadrupole, is two + polarities on the north and south pole, balanced out by two - polarities on the equator. (Diagram) [link to www.setyoufreenews.com] (+/-/-/+). Also, it isn't to be temporary or transitional, but stay that way the whole upcoming cycle, after which the south pole may or may not return to scheduled programming and flip. Then Strong goes on to say this situation has occurred the last 3 cycles. But he's talking about the North and South poles having the same polarity, again, temporarily or transitionally, en route to completing the flip and then having the usual opposing polarities for the duration of the cycle. Hinode is describing North and South poles of the same polarity for at least one entire cycle. Of those 3 previous cycles he refers to, each time unanimous polarity occurred the unflipped pole was weakening and visibly en route to joining it's colleague in the reboot process. This time, as of yet there is no weakening in the unflipped pole, no evidence of an attempt to flip. That is what is new and unusual, the prospect of only one pole resetting this solar max. Do you really think the scientists at NASA and Hinode missed such obvious details as are being pointed out in this video? Does that make any sense at all? Not only is this video very strange, Strong then goes on to release another video May 22 ( [link to www.youtube.com] wherein he brags that nothing has happened with the poles. Except if he simply checked the polar field strength ( [link to wso.stanford.edu] , he would see that effective May 22, ironically, the North polar field shut down and rebooted in the opposite polarity. AKA, it flipped. At this point this guy seems pretty silly in my eyes. I'm surprised there's been almost zero discussion of this here. The North just flipped and the South isn't budging at all, it's extremely interesting. The Sun is the Sun, and it's interior still has many mysteries- it's weird that the North magnetic pole could change w/o the south changing also. I get a pain between my ears trying to wrap my head around that one! Fixed broken stanford link, sorry about that. |
nerdrage88sasr User ID: 17640965 Australia 06/14/2012 08:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Beginning of another LDE? [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] Peace "Luck is what happens when preparation meets Oppurtunity"-- Seneca (5BC-65AD) |
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nerdrage88sasr User ID: 17640965 Australia 06/14/2012 08:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i can run with that....if you look at the 5 min...did we really end the first one? [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] Peace "Luck is what happens when preparation meets Oppurtunity"-- Seneca (5BC-65AD) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17392454 United States 06/14/2012 09:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i can run with that....if you look at the 5 min...did we really end the first one? [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] Peace NOAA does what it can (???) That's why they get paid the big bucks ... Sleep well all |
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Hugh M Eye User ID: 15388345 United States 06/14/2012 09:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | SOHO pics of CME finally coming in. C2 image: [link to lasco-www.nrl.navy.mil] and C3: [link to lasco-www.nrl.navy.mil] And what's that blob of plasma south of the occulting disk??? [link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov] |
whiteangel also known at WA User ID: 1775746 United States 06/14/2012 09:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The BLOB looks like a big sperm ..... I know, I know, but it did!! rofl Isaiah 5:20 KJV Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! Thread: Being Prepared - Updated Basic Food List On Page One |
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nerdrage88sasr User ID: 17640965 Australia 06/14/2012 10:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | SOHO pics of CME finally coming in. Quoting: Hugh M Eye C2 image: [link to lasco-www.nrl.navy.mil] and C3: [link to lasco-www.nrl.navy.mil] And what's that blob of plasma south of the occulting disk??? [link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov] Lovely mate, thanks Peace "Luck is what happens when preparation meets Oppurtunity"-- Seneca (5BC-65AD) |
Hugh M Eye User ID: 15388345 United States 06/14/2012 10:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was thinkin' the sun was taking a dump, lol. Potty humor aside, there seems to a another CME near the south pole, possibly a filament eruption. [link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov] |
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shadasonic User ID: 15732022 United States 06/14/2012 10:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | UPDATE: Quoting: Hugh M Eye DIRECTLY EARTH-FACING FULL-HALO CME INCOMING- :cme_c2: :cme_c3: :CME6/14: :cme cone mdl: That just about says it all “One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan |
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Hugh M Eye User ID: 15388345 United States 06/14/2012 11:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have been thinking about the speed estimates on the CME, probably just inaccurate due to length of observation, just raw data, i'll bet it takes a few observations to pin it down? Quoting: Onthehook 7670361 I checked the updated CME lists from CACTus and SEEDS and I can't find a definitive analysis of this CME, almost like they're purposely downplaying it. I hope it's not incompetence, but it's very contagious. One look at the STEREO data and it's an obvious bulls-eye. SEEDS CME Movie: [link to spaceweather.gmu.edu] CACTus CME list: [link to www.sidc.oma.be] SEEDS CME List: [link to spaceweather.gmu.edu] In other news.....The GOES Proton Flux plot shows a moderate, but noticeable increase in protons: [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] The ACE EPAM Plots are funtioning again: [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] |
nerdrage88sasr User ID: 17640965 Australia 06/14/2012 11:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anyone notice that their seems to be a 'dome' of some sort between 5 o'clock and 1 o'clock? Listen to it,. you will see what i mean...check the lines, they appear to cut out and you can almost see a dome in the background static. [link to www.haarp.alaska.edu] Peace Edit-- actually, going back through the days, it started on the 10th June. Last Edited by nerdrage88sasr on 06/14/2012 11:43 PM "Luck is what happens when preparation meets Oppurtunity"-- Seneca (5BC-65AD) |
Hugh M Eye User ID: 15388345 United States 06/15/2012 12:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anyone notice that their seems to be a 'dome' of some sort between 5 o'clock and 1 o'clock? Listen to it,. you will see what i mean...check the lines, they appear to cut out and you can almost see a dome in the background static. Quoting: nerdrage88sasr [link to www.haarp.alaska.edu] Peace Edit-- actually, going back through the days, it started on the 10th June. "Forbidden" |
joinca User ID: 8793176 United States 06/15/2012 12:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | GLP links to HARP Induction Magnetometer are blocked - www.haarp.alaska.edu "Forbidden" This seems to work: 1.copy and paste the IP address for the web site 137.229.36.31 2.Go to online data 3.Then go to Induction Magnetometer Current Chart "The government will one day be corrupt and full of liars, and the people will flock to the one that tells the truth." - “Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the citizenry.” - "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." - "I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them." - "A Country with no Border, is not a country" -- Thomas Jefferson We MUST NEVER forget what Kamala Harris did to Justice Kavanaugh & his family! |