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Anonymous Coward User ID: 14702788 United States 07/05/2012 03:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Great visual on how the years 1983 to 2012 compare: Quoting: joinca [link to satdat.ngdc.noaa.gov] from this site: [link to sxi.ngdc.noaa.gov] Thanks, excellent info there! |
WeAreOne User ID: 19179147 United Kingdom 07/05/2012 03:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | M6.1 @ 11:44 UTC - (Sunspot 1515) Quoting: FalloutGuy M4.7 @ 03:36 UTC - (Sunspot 1515) M2.2 @ 02:42 UTC - (Sunspot 1515) M2.4 @ 01:10 UTC - (Sunspot 1515) M4.6 @ 22:09 UTC - (Sunspot 1515) M1.8 @ 16:39 UTC - (Sunspot 1513) "Earth directed CME possible" M2.3 @ 12:24 UTC - (Sunspot 1515) M5.3 @ 09:55 UTC - (Sunspot 1515) "Non Earth directed CME generated" All those solar flares and just two CME's, isn't that kind of awkward? I've been puzzling over this for 2 days. First of all, the Spaceweather.com story is completely wrong-disinfo. The CME launched at Earth was from 1513 (not 1515) and the arrival time they give is for a different CME from 1513 (a C9.3 on the 3rd). These M5's and 6's should be producing full-halo Earth-directed CMEs and at least moderate proton events. Every CME from Earth-facing AR1515 has been deflected to the south, away from Earth. I've only come up with a few possible explanations: A) an unknown magnetic anomaly on the Sun B) Divine intervention C) DARPA intervention (ie, some kind of secret mag-field-directed-energy device) D) Benevolent alien intervention (they're protecting their crops, haha) Also, for 2 days SDO has censored the PFSS Mag-field graphs so we can't see the southern hemisphere fields...this made me consider conspiracy theories. Looky here: [link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov] [link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov] To my mind ,this is the BIG STORY of SS1515, and I'll be damned if I can explain it. Hopefully the collective wisdom (!) of GLP can get to the bottom of this solar enigma. Help us out here. Excellent Post, you've compiled nicely the sentiment that alot of us share, somethings very unnatural about the semi dormancy that comes over these spots as they become earth facing. There are so many different theories you could apply this stagnation to. I guess we'll let it unravel itself, hopefully! Good Job Hugh, its nice to hear this from you, you're respected by many on this thread I also agree. A beautifully compiled set of shenanigans you've got there! Be the change you want the World to be. Be |
Gabriel User ID: 4384768 United States 07/05/2012 03:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A NASA robotic probe sampling particles flowing into our solar system from the galactic neighborhood shows we're living in a cloud -- and likely to stay that way for hundreds or even thousands of years. The measurements from NASA's Interstellar Boundary Explorer, or IBEX, spacecraft include the first direct samplings of hydrogen, oxygen and neon that didn't come from the sun or anywhere else in the solar system. Instead, the gases, along with helium, which was previously detected by NASA's Ulysses spacecraft, streamed into our solar system from the galactic neighborhood, which right now includes a tenuous wispy cloud. The flow of interstellar particles is slower than expected, though still zipping along at a hearty 52,000 mph, and coming from a slightly different direction than previously thought. ... we are learning what the effects of this cloud is having on the sun during a solar max......... |
MissionInvisible User ID: 1800004 United States 07/05/2012 03:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | M6.1 @ 11:44 UTC - (Sunspot 1515) Quoting: FalloutGuy M4.7 @ 03:36 UTC - (Sunspot 1515) M2.2 @ 02:42 UTC - (Sunspot 1515) M2.4 @ 01:10 UTC - (Sunspot 1515) M4.6 @ 22:09 UTC - (Sunspot 1515) M1.8 @ 16:39 UTC - (Sunspot 1513) "Earth directed CME possible" M2.3 @ 12:24 UTC - (Sunspot 1515) M5.3 @ 09:55 UTC - (Sunspot 1515) "Non Earth directed CME generated" All those solar flares and just two CME's, isn't that kind of awkward? I've been puzzling over this for 2 days. First of all, the Spaceweather.com story is completely wrong-disinfo. The CME launched at Earth was from 1513 (not 1515) and the arrival time they give is for a different CME from 1513 (a C9.3 on the 3rd). These M5's and 6's should be producing full-halo Earth-directed CMEs and at least moderate proton events. Every CME from Earth-facing AR1515 has been deflected to the south, away from Earth. I've only come up with a few possible explanations: A) an unknown magnetic anomaly on the Sun B) Divine intervention C) DARPA intervention (ie, some kind of secret mag-field-directed-energy device) D) Benevolent alien intervention (they're protecting their crops, haha) Also, for 2 days SDO has censored the PFSS Mag-field graphs so we can't see the southern hemisphere fields...this made me consider conspiracy theories. Looky here: [link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov] [link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov] To my mind ,this is the BIG STORY of SS1515, and I'll be damned if I can explain it. Hopefully the collective wisdom (!) of GLP can get to the bottom of this solar enigma. Help us out here. Great info here! Very very interesting... Something is definitely "off" in what we are being told/informed from the so called real-time websites. I've felt wayyy off the last few days, had this very electrical feeling running through my body...the weather stories have been very strange over the last week or so as well. Keep up the good work :) You definitely are helping those of us who don't quite understand a lot of the technical data is out there! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1540313 United States 07/05/2012 03:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | M6.1 @ 11:44 UTC - (Sunspot 1515) Quoting: FalloutGuy M4.7 @ 03:36 UTC - (Sunspot 1515) M2.2 @ 02:42 UTC - (Sunspot 1515) M2.4 @ 01:10 UTC - (Sunspot 1515) M4.6 @ 22:09 UTC - (Sunspot 1515) M1.8 @ 16:39 UTC - (Sunspot 1513) "Earth directed CME possible" M2.3 @ 12:24 UTC - (Sunspot 1515) M5.3 @ 09:55 UTC - (Sunspot 1515) "Non Earth directed CME generated" All those solar flares and just two CME's, isn't that kind of awkward? I've been puzzling over this for 2 days. First of all, the Spaceweather.com story is completely wrong-disinfo. The CME launched at Earth was from 1513 (not 1515) and the arrival time they give is for a different CME from 1513 (a C9.3 on the 3rd). These M5's and 6's should be producing full-halo Earth-directed CMEs and at least moderate proton events. Every CME from Earth-facing AR1515 has been deflected to the south, away from Earth. I've only come up with a few possible explanations: A) an unknown magnetic anomaly on the Sun B) Divine intervention C) DARPA intervention (ie, some kind of secret mag-field-directed-energy device) D) Benevolent alien intervention (they're protecting their crops, haha) Also, for 2 days SDO has censored the PFSS Mag-field graphs so we can't see the southern hemisphere fields...this made me consider conspiracy theories. Looky here: [link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov] [link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov] To my mind ,this is the BIG STORY of SS1515, and I'll be damned if I can explain it. Hopefully the collective wisdom (!) of GLP can get to the bottom of this solar enigma. Help us out here. I have no clue, but you are right- something is off. Deflections are just plain weird. |
NiNzrez (OP) User ID: 12844841 United States 07/05/2012 04:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 04 0947 0955 0957 S20W18 M5.3 2B 79 99 1515 Quoting: whiteangel 04 1207 1224 1232 S17W29 M2.3 78 III/IV 99 1515 Location from Solar Monitor 04 1435 1440 1442 S18W18 M1.3 SN 99 1515 04 1633 1639 1648 N14W34 M1.8 2N 200 III/3,V/2,II/1 96 1513 04 2203 2209 2215 S16W24 M4.6 220 II/1,III/2 99 1515 Location from Solar Monitor 04 2347 2355 0002 S16W24 M1.2 IV/1 99 1515 Location from Solar Monitor 05 0105 0110 0115 S18W26 M2.4 3N 99 1515 05 0235 0242 0247 S18W27 M2.2 99 1515 Location from Solarsoft 05 0325 0336 0339 S18W29 M4.7 III/1 99 1515 Location from solarsoft 05 0649 0658 0705 S18W39 M1.1 1F 99 1515 05 0740 0745 0748 S18W30 M1.3 99 1515 Add to the above: 07/05 M6.1 at 11:44 UTC from 1515 07/05 M1.2 at 13:17 UTC from 1515 - large CME not earth directed. ++++++++++ Am I missing any?? from our list on the 1st page of this thread as well as the my solar alerts blog M1.2 Flare on 7/05/2012 @ 13:17 UTC - Sunspot 1515 M6.1 Flare on 7/05/2012 @ 11:44 UTC - Sunspot 1515 M1.8 Flare on 7/05/2012 @ 10:48 UTC - Sunspot 1515 M1.3 Flare on 7/05/2012 @ 07:45 UTC - Sunspot 1515 M1.1 Flare on 7/05/2012 @ 06:58 UTC - Sunspot 1515 M4.7 Flare on 7/05/2012 @ 03:36 UTC - Sunspot 1515 M2.2 Flare on 7/05/2012 @ 02:42 UTC - Sunspot 1515 M2.4 Flare on 7/05/2012 @ 01:10 UTC - Sunspot 1515 M1.1 Flare on 7/05/2012 @ 00:43 UTC - Sunspot 1515 you missed M1.8 Flare on 7/05/2012 @ 10:48 UTC - Sunspot 1515 Hey Nin, is this a record number for M flares in 24 hours?Do you know? i was looking for that info last night but could not find it if someone can find it, please post! :) Join Me On The GLP SOLAR WATCH Thread Thread: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1540313 United States 07/05/2012 04:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Great visual on how the years 1983 to 2012 compare: Quoting: joinca [link to satdat.ngdc.noaa.gov] from this site: [link to sxi.ngdc.noaa.gov] Very nice, thanks! |
shadasonic User ID: 15732022 United States 07/05/2012 04:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A NASA robotic probe sampling particles flowing into our solar system from the galactic neighborhood shows we're living in a cloud -- and likely to stay that way for hundreds or even thousands of years. Quoting: Gabriel The measurements from NASA's Interstellar Boundary Explorer, or IBEX, spacecraft include the first direct samplings of hydrogen, oxygen and neon that didn't come from the sun or anywhere else in the solar system. Instead, the gases, along with helium, which was previously detected by NASA's Ulysses spacecraft, streamed into our solar system from the galactic neighborhood, which right now includes a tenuous wispy cloud. The flow of interstellar particles is slower than expected, though still zipping along at a hearty 52,000 mph, and coming from a slightly different direction than previously thought. ... we are learning what the effects of this cloud is having on the sun during a solar max......... We're entering uncharted waters,so many things affecting so many things(that sounds intelligent). lol “One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan |
whiteangel also known at WA User ID: 1775746 United States 07/05/2012 04:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | M6.1 @ 11:44 UTC - (Sunspot 1515) Quoting: FalloutGuy M4.7 @ 03:36 UTC - (Sunspot 1515) M2.2 @ 02:42 UTC - (Sunspot 1515) M2.4 @ 01:10 UTC - (Sunspot 1515) M4.6 @ 22:09 UTC - (Sunspot 1515) M1.8 @ 16:39 UTC - (Sunspot 1513) "Earth directed CME possible" M2.3 @ 12:24 UTC - (Sunspot 1515) M5.3 @ 09:55 UTC - (Sunspot 1515) "Non Earth directed CME generated" All those solar flares and just two CME's, isn't that kind of awkward? I've been puzzling over this for 2 days. First of all, the Spaceweather.com story is completely wrong-disinfo. The CME launched at Earth was from 1513 (not 1515) and the arrival time they give is for a different CME from 1513 (a C9.3 on the 3rd). These M5's and 6's should be producing full-halo Earth-directed CMEs and at least moderate proton events. Every CME from Earth-facing AR1515 has been deflected to the south, away from Earth. I've only come up with a few possible explanations: A) an unknown magnetic anomaly on the Sun B) Divine intervention C) DARPA intervention (ie, some kind of secret mag-field-directed-energy device) D) Benevolent alien intervention (they're protecting their crops, haha) Also, for 2 days SDO has censored the PFSS Mag-field graphs so we can't see the southern hemisphere fields...this made me consider conspiracy theories. Looky here: [link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov] [link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov] To my mind ,this is the BIG STORY of SS1515, and I'll be damned if I can explain it. Hopefully the collective wisdom (!) of GLP can get to the bottom of this solar enigma. Help us out here. #1 - Is there an anomaly and if so what could it be - is this something that has happened in the past, or just more recent? #2 - Is the data being heavily censored and if so why, for what purpose? Both of the above questions are the reasons conspiracy theories start in the first place. We KNOW something isn't adding up. #1 = just throwing this out there - if there is a Planet x (or whatever) could this be effecting the flow between earth and the sun? I've never really believed in the Planet X theory, but if this could be interfering somehow, it might change my mind, lol #2 = if the data is being heavily censored, that is a lot of agencies that are in on it, which would mean there is a BIG reason they don't want us to see something. This is one of those areas that just jive to me. Isaiah 5:20 KJV Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! Thread: Being Prepared - Updated Basic Food List On Page One |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16257329 Finland 07/05/2012 04:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | M6.1 @ 11:44 UTC - (Sunspot 1515) Quoting: FalloutGuy M4.7 @ 03:36 UTC - (Sunspot 1515) M2.2 @ 02:42 UTC - (Sunspot 1515) M2.4 @ 01:10 UTC - (Sunspot 1515) M4.6 @ 22:09 UTC - (Sunspot 1515) M1.8 @ 16:39 UTC - (Sunspot 1513) "Earth directed CME possible" M2.3 @ 12:24 UTC - (Sunspot 1515) M5.3 @ 09:55 UTC - (Sunspot 1515) "Non Earth directed CME generated" All those solar flares and just two CME's, isn't that kind of awkward? I've been puzzling over this for 2 days. First of all, the Spaceweather.com story is completely wrong-disinfo. The CME launched at Earth was from 1513 (not 1515) and the arrival time they give is for a different CME from 1513 (a C9.3 on the 3rd). These M5's and 6's should be producing full-halo Earth-directed CMEs and at least moderate proton events. Every CME from Earth-facing AR1515 has been deflected to the south, away from Earth. I've only come up with a few possible explanations: A) an unknown magnetic anomaly on the Sun B) Divine intervention C) DARPA intervention (ie, some kind of secret mag-field-directed-energy device) D) Benevolent alien intervention (they're protecting their crops, haha) Also, for 2 days SDO has censored the PFSS Mag-field graphs so we can't see the southern hemisphere fields...this made me consider conspiracy theories. Looky here: [link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov] [link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov] To my mind ,this is the BIG STORY of SS1515, and I'll be damned if I can explain it. Hopefully the collective wisdom (!) of GLP can get to the bottom of this solar enigma. Help us out here. you realize nibs is coming from the south, right. stop acting you don't believe :D |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 13079166 United States 07/05/2012 04:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | they have it listed as 1514 but click on it and you see it was from 1515 [link to www.lmsal.com] Me, splitting hairs... NOAA has it as 1515. [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] SolarMonitor has it as 1514. [link to www.solarmonitor.org] 1514 isn't even marked on the picture in the LMSAL link you listed (which DOES list the flare as originating from 1514)... [link to www.lmsal.com] 1515 and 1514 have almost merged, that's how close together they are (though some of the apparent closeness is due to the curvature of the sun)... [link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov] SDO movie maker of the closure... [link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov] start: 6-29 end: now HMI colorized magnetogram n=4 or 5 LMSAL closeup movies of the M1.2 flare... [link to sdowww.lmsal.com] This wavelength movie has the time of GOES peak x-ray while action is occurring closer to 1515... [link to sdowww.lmsal.com] This wavelength movie has the time of GOES peak x-ray while action is occurring closer to 1514... [link to sdowww.lmsal.com] So obviously the flare was from 1514. Heh heh heh. Just kidding. It might be from 1515 but I'm sticking to my guns for now. -- |
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Hugh M Eye User ID: 15388345 United States 07/05/2012 05:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Solarsoft now "Forbidden", to me at least. Here's a screenshot from yesterday's solar mag-field model- :pyramidmag-field: If anyone's familiar with pyramid-shaped magnetic fields, please chime in and enlighten us. The Wilson Observatory has extensive solar magnetic field studies and archival data, but I couldn't find anything real-time. But check out the picture of their observatory. WTF? [link to wso.stanford.edu] The STEREO J-plots also look stranger than normal. These plots are used to track CME velocities and stuff. [link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov] The sun's mag field movie model at iSWA hasn't been updated since June 30th. Also, the Sun-Earth magnetic footprint data hasn't been updated since June 30th. I find it incomprehensible that NASA would go on vacation when solar activity has been so incredibly intense. Another "WTF?". Another Solar magnetic data page @ alaska.edu (sound familiar, conspiratards?) also will not respond on my browswer. Link here: [link to gse.gi.alaska.edu] Just a side note--in the past 2 weeks it was announced that the NRO was launching 2 new "secret" surveillance satellites. Why would they announce the launch of spy satellites? Unless....maybe they WEREN'T spy satellites! Jes' sayin...the plot thickens. |
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shadasonic User ID: 15732022 United States 07/05/2012 05:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We should hit 60* with 1513 and 1515 very soon? “One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan |