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SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily)

 
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on spaceweather today July 9th

AURORA SURPRISE: July 9th began with a brief but beautiful display of auroras over North America. "I had gone out to search for noctilucent clouds, but instead I found these Northern Lights," says Robert Snache of Rama First Nation, Ontario:

The source of the display was not an explosion on the sun, but rather a fluctuation in the interplanetary magnetic field (IMF). The IMF near Earth tipped south, briefly opening a crack in our planet's magnetosphere. Solar wind poured in and ignited the lights.

More auroras could be in the offing. A CME that left the sun on July 6th might deliver a glancing blow to Earth's magnetic field on July 9-10. NOAA forecasters estimate a 25% to 30% chance of polar geomagnetic storms if and when the cloud arrives.
[link to spaceweather.com]


- soooo according to spaceweather, the Kp5 storm were having right now has nothing at all to do with a CME arrival?
MKay

also note. that they are saying the CME that occurred with the X flare has not arrived just yet
on the 7th they reported it would arrive on July 8th or 9th
now they change that to 9th-10 and without a report of the reason behind the change

This tells me that they do expect "something" from this X flare associated CME to hit

From spaceweather.com on JKuly 7th
"The explosion hurled a CME into space. According to this movie from the Solar and Heliospheric Observatory, the cloud appears to be heading south and away from Earth. However, we cannot yet rule out a glancing blow to our planet on July 8th or 9th."
[link to spaceweather.com]

Today they are saying July 9th or 10th for the CME arrival and that the Kp5 storm were having right now is NOT from any CME.


-On the My Solar Alerts blog, we disagreed with their arrival dates of July 8th-9th
we reported the arrival for this CME on the 9th-10
what they are now saying

[link to mysolaralerts.blogspot.com]
"We now see there IS a CME associated with this X flare event. Earth is well connected with the region of 1515. This CME was not directly Earth directed as it was ejected to the south and west, but a glancing blow to Earth's magnetosphere is likely late on July 9th into the 10th"

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1520 looks like it is getting ready to blow-
hiding It is so damn hot here in No. Ca, today that I'm afraid to stick my head out the door. Sun is painful, burning on skin. Geeze, I wish solar max. would finish-up already!
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For anyone who is interested in the historical record of sunspots, I made a comparison of SS1520 to the largest Sunspot ever recorded, which was in 1947.

[link to imageshack.us]


Some time ago I made another comparison, which I falsely claimed was the carrington sunspot. However, I want to point out that it was actually also the sunspot of 1947 (for anyone who remembers).
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check out the 48hr mpeg on the AIA 4500 spectrum. 1520 seems to be growing substantially!!
[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
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That HMI Magnetogram looks scary as shit!
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It looks like a double belt of explosions along the equator(?) of the sun.
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For anyone who is interested in the historical record of sunspots, I made a comparison of SS1520 to the largest Sunspot ever recorded, which was in 1947.

[link to imageshack.us]


Some time ago I made another comparison, which I falsely claimed was the carrington sunspot. However, I want to point out that it was actually also the sunspot of 1947 (for anyone who remembers).
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thank you, NiW! hf
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For anyone who is interested in the historical record of sunspots, I made a comparison of SS1520 to the largest Sunspot ever recorded, which was in 1947.

[link to imageshack.us]


Some time ago I made another comparison, which I falsely claimed was the carrington sunspot. However, I want to point out that it was actually also the sunspot of 1947 (for anyone who remembers).
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Thanks for posting it
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Protons are picking up in the poles a bit

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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I hope I'm not being outa line. hf
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Not at all, Finley, you done good! Whenever solar activity goes wild, it seems we're swamped with trolls posting off-topic gobbledygook and promoting their whacko YouTube conspiracy vids. We'll have keep our eye on the ball and not let this thread get derailed too much.

I don't wish to be mean to anyone, but I've noticed attempts to troll this thread for two days now. When I went back to the "March Madness" pages, when we had X-flares, big M's, and the strongest magnetic storm of the year; I noticed the same thing happened then. We were all busy and excited over solar events and we got hammered by crackpot UFO videos and other silly nonsense. Sorry to rant, but it's a very irksome annoyance. rant

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ok im back..
Hugh M Eye still didnt come back and say sorry

you might want to look at the top left hand corner of the site of the GLP LOGO its a UFO!
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For anyone who is interested in the historical record of sunspots, I made a comparison of SS1520 to the largest Sunspot ever recorded, which was in 1947.

[link to imageshack.us]


Some time ago I made another comparison, which I falsely claimed was the carrington sunspot. However, I want to point out that it was actually also the sunspot of 1947 (for anyone who remembers).
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For anyone who is interested in the historical record of sunspots, I made a comparison of SS1520 to the largest Sunspot ever recorded, which was in 1947.

[link to imageshack.us]


Some time ago I made another comparison, which I falsely claimed was the carrington sunspot. However, I want to point out that it was actually also the sunspot of 1947 (for anyone who remembers).
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Awesome, thank-you!!!5a
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Did A Massive Solar Proton Event Fry The Earth yesterday?
=========================================================

You need to know, yesterday nasa goddard space flight center detected incoming high level gamma rays from a solar EMP blast which was a billion times stronger than the energy of visible light and about two billion GeV.

THE flux of the high-energy gamma ray super wave yesterday was 500 times greater than the sun's normal radiation. The true information about this super wave event was not reported through main stream media or through internet channels.
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any updates?
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Did A Massive Solar Proton Event Fry The Earth yesterday?
=========================================================

You need to know, yesterday nasa goddard space flight center detected incoming high level gamma rays from a solar EMP blast which was a billion times stronger than the energy of visible light and about two billion GeV.

THE flux of the high-energy gamma ray super wave yesterday was 500 times greater than the sun's normal radiation. The true information about this super wave event was not reported through main stream media or through internet channels.
 Quoting: UsTok 18925421


any updates?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18936669


this is not right. I don't know who UsTok is, but this is bogus info.
[link to www.nasa.gov] note the date.
this is old but interesting: [link to www.nasa.gov]
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Did A Massive Solar Proton Event Fry The Earth yesterday?
=========================================================

You need to know, yesterday nasa goddard space flight center detected incoming high level gamma rays from a solar EMP blast which was a billion times stronger than the energy of visible light and about two billion GeV.

THE flux of the high-energy gamma ray super wave yesterday was 500 times greater than the sun's normal radiation. The true information about this super wave event was not reported through main stream media or through internet channels.
 Quoting: UsTok 18925421


any updates?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18936669


this is not right. I don't know who UsTok is, but this is bogus info.
[link to www.nasa.gov] note the date.
this is old but interesting: [link to www.nasa.gov]
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I'm confused. What does that mean?
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Did A Massive Solar Proton Event Fry The Earth yesterday?
=========================================================

You need to know, yesterday nasa goddard space flight center detected incoming high level gamma rays from a solar EMP blast which was a billion times stronger than the energy of visible light and about two billion GeV.

THE flux of the high-energy gamma ray super wave yesterday was 500 times greater than the sun's normal radiation. The true information about this super wave event was not reported through main stream media or through internet channels.
 Quoting: UsTok 18925421


any updates?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18936669


this is not right. I don't know who UsTok is, but this is bogus info.
[link to www.nasa.gov] note the date.
this is old but interesting: [link to www.nasa.gov]
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I'm confused. What does that mean?
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the original post from UsTok about Goddard saying we got hit with a big rush of gamma rays yesterday is incorrect. I posted the original story dated March.
then I posted another interesting article on lightening producing gamma rays. Click on the links I gave. does that answer you?sun
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any updates?
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this is not right. I don't know who UsTok is, but this is bogus info.
[link to www.nasa.gov] note the date.
this is old but interesting: [link to www.nasa.gov]
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I'm confused. What does that mean?
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the original post from UsTok about Goddard saying we got hit with a big rush of gamma rays yesterday is incorrect. I posted the original story dated March.
then I posted another interesting article on lightening producing gamma rays. Click on the links I gave. does that answer you?sun
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Oh..sorry. The dumb blonde is showing... lol
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this is not right. I don't know who UsTok is, but this is bogus info.
[link to www.nasa.gov] note the date.
this is old but interesting: [link to www.nasa.gov]
 Quoting: SpiderJones


I'm confused. What does that mean?
 Quoting: Starry eyes


the original post from UsTok about Goddard saying we got hit with a big rush of gamma rays yesterday is incorrect. I posted the original story dated March.
then I posted another interesting article on lightening producing gamma rays. Click on the links I gave. does that answer you?sun
 Quoting: SpiderJones



Oh..sorry. The dumb blonde is showing... lol
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No, you are not dumb- I was not using my English grammer correctly, and being lazy. I hate to type, and take stupid short-cuts.cool2
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Damn thing made me have to make another video. I'm glad it's gone.


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That was awesome Tbar, I hadn't seen it quite that well elsewhere here, even though I've been reading every day, great work, much appreciated, liked seeing the historical data as well. hf hf
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I'm confused. What does that mean?
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the original post from UsTok about Goddard saying we got hit with a big rush of gamma rays yesterday is incorrect. I posted the original story dated March.
then I posted another interesting article on lightening producing gamma rays. Click on the links I gave. does that answer you?sun
 Quoting: SpiderJones



Oh..sorry. The dumb blonde is showing... lol
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No, you are not dumb- I was not using my English grammer correctly, and being lazy. I hate to type, and take stupid short-cuts.cool2
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It's all good!

I have to admit, though..sometimes I'm easily confused. haha!

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Damn thing made me have to make another video. I'm glad it's gone.


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That was awesome Tbar, I hadn't seen it quite that well elsewhere here, even though I've been reading every day, great work, much appreciated, liked seeing the historical data as well. hf hf
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Nice, I did not realize that the mag.loop was going from one hemisphere to another. Thanks for this post.
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Solar storm in progress-KP=5. Feels like it outside here,too! [link to www.solarham.net]
This little blerb about gamma rays blows my mind!
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"When two protons collide they create a third partical called a pion, the pion quickly decays into two gamma rays"

Did not know this, learn something new every day, thanks for posting that gamma ray vid!!!!
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New Polar Field Strength data update from WSO today.

The trends continue, both the North and South poles exhibit and continue to grow a positive polarity. North pole is exhibiting +0.03 gauss (still a newborn baby after it's recent flip), South pole is exhibiting +0.51 gauss.

The enigma of one pole having flipped while the other pole remains static, continues.

[link to wso.stanford.edu]

I expect once the North polar field gains it's legs the sunspot polarities in the Northern Hemisphere will follow suit. It should take months yet before the North polar field has any significant kind of strength (it's currently strengthening about +0.01 gauss per 10 days)
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Sounds of Northern Lights are born close to ground
09.07.2012
For the first time, researchers at Aalto University in Finland have located where the sounds associated with the northern lights are created. The auroral sounds that have been described in folktales and by wilderness wanderers are formed about 70 meters above the ground level in the measured case.




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"Our research proved that, during the occurrence of the northern lights, people can hear natural auroral sounds related to what they see. In the past, researchers thought that the aurora borealis was too far away for people to hear the sounds it made. This is true. However, our research proves that the source of the sounds that are associated with the aurora borealis we see is likely caused by the same energetic particles from the sun that create the northern lights far away in the sky. These particles or the geomagnetic disturbance produced by them seem to create sound much closer to the ground," said Professor Unto K. Laine from Aalto University.

Details about how the auroral sounds are created are still a mystery. The sounds do not occur regularly when the northern lights are seen. The recorded, unamplified sounds can be similar to crackles or muffled bangs which last for only a short period of time. Other people who have heard the auroral sounds have described them as distant noise and sputter. Because of these different descriptions, researchers suspect that there are several mechanisms behind the formation of these auroral sounds. These sounds are so soft that one has to listen very carefully to hear them and to distinguish them from the ambient noise.

The Aalto University researcher's study will be published in the proceedings of the 19th International Congress on Sound and Vibration. The congress is held in Vilnius, Lithuania from 8 to 12 July 2012.

[link to www.aalto.fi]


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For the first time, researchers at Aalto University in Finland have located where the sounds associated with the northern lights are created. The auroral sounds that have been described in folktales and by wilderness wanderers are formed about 70 meters above the ground level in the measured case.


"Our research proved that, during the occurrence of the northern lights, people can hear natural auroral sounds related to what they see. In the past, researchers thought that the aurora borealis was too far away for people to hear the sounds it made. This is true. However, our research proves that the source of the sounds that are associated with the aurora borealis we see is likely caused by the same energetic particles from the sun that create the northern lights far away in the sky. These particles or the geomagnetic disturbance produced by them seem to create sound much closer to the ground," said Professor Unto K. Laine from Aalto University.

Details about how the auroral sounds are created are still a mystery. The sounds do not occur regularly when the northern lights are seen. The recorded, unamplified sounds can be similar to crackles or muffled bangs which last for only a short period of time. Other people who have heard the auroral sounds have described them as distant noise and sputter. Because of these different descriptions, researchers suspect that there are several mechanisms behind the formation of these auroral sounds. These sounds are so soft that one has to listen very carefully to hear them and to distinguish them from the ambient noise.

The Aalto University researcher's study will be published in the proceedings of the 19th International Congress on Sound and Vibration. The congress is held in Vilnius, Lithuania from 8 to 12 July 2012.

[link to www.aalto.fi]


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Hey there B76!

Thanks for sharing..I'll check it out.
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I'm confused. What does that mean?
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the original post from UsTok about Goddard saying we got hit with a big rush of gamma rays yesterday is incorrect. I posted the original story dated March.
then I posted another interesting article on lightening producing gamma rays. Click on the links I gave. does that answer you?sun
 Quoting: SpiderJones



Oh..sorry. The dumb blonde is showing... lol
 Quoting: Starry eyes


No, you are not dumb- I was not using my English grammer correctly, and being lazy. I hate to type, and take stupid short-cuts.cool2
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i do that a lot
and come acress as crass, harsh or short
when im really sitting here with a smile and just trying hard to type something i would rather just say ^^
i can't stand typing either
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Damn thing made me have to make another video. I'm glad it's gone.


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That was awesome Tbar, I hadn't seen it quite that well elsewhere here, even though I've been reading every day, great work, much appreciated, liked seeing the historical data as well. hf hf
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i 2nd that :)
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the original post from UsTok about Goddard saying we got hit with a big rush of gamma rays yesterday is incorrect. I posted the original story dated March.
then I posted another interesting article on lightening producing gamma rays. Click on the links I gave. does that answer you?sun
 Quoting: SpiderJones



Oh..sorry. The dumb blonde is showing... lol
 Quoting: Starry eyes


No, you are not dumb- I was not using my English grammer correctly, and being lazy. I hate to type, and take stupid short-cuts.cool2
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i do that a lot
and come acress as crass, harsh or short
when im really sitting here with a smile and just trying hard to type something i would rather just say ^^
i can't stand typing either
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Yeah, I totally understand! :)

It would be cool to have voice feature on each thread..or does that already exist? lol Sorry, still fairly new. :P

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Sounds of Northern Lights are born close to ground
09.07.2012
For the first time, researchers at Aalto University in Finland have located where the sounds associated with the northern lights are created. The auroral sounds that have been described in folktales and by wilderness wanderers are formed about 70 meters above the ground level in the measured case.




[link to www.youtube.com]



"Our research proved that, during the occurrence of the northern lights, people can hear natural auroral sounds related to what they see. In the past, researchers thought that the aurora borealis was too far away for people to hear the sounds it made. This is true. However, our research proves that the source of the sounds that are associated with the aurora borealis we see is likely caused by the same energetic particles from the sun that create the northern lights far away in the sky. These particles or the geomagnetic disturbance produced by them seem to create sound much closer to the ground," said Professor Unto K. Laine from Aalto University.

Details about how the auroral sounds are created are still a mystery. The sounds do not occur regularly when the northern lights are seen. The recorded, unamplified sounds can be similar to crackles or muffled bangs which last for only a short period of time. Other people who have heard the auroral sounds have described them as distant noise and sputter. Because of these different descriptions, researchers suspect that there are several mechanisms behind the formation of these auroral sounds. These sounds are so soft that one has to listen very carefully to hear them and to distinguish them from the ambient noise.

The Aalto University researcher's study will be published in the proceedings of the 19th International Congress on Sound and Vibration. The congress is held in Vilnius, Lithuania from 8 to 12 July 2012.

[link to www.aalto.fi]


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 Quoting: IwantToBelieve76


Maybe trails of moisture where magnetic field change induces current, and the trails pop up like a fuse. Sort of mini-lightning ... that could explain the type of sounds, crackles and muffled bangs.
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I am trying to figure out from what location on the sun the solar flare that caused the Carrington Event. It looks like the picture from this location [link to www.noaa.gov] scroll down, seems to show about 15-lat and 20-long.

If that is correct, AR1515, and even 1520 are on the same longitude, just can't tell from the pic if this was minus or positive longitude. Please correct if I am wrong, which is likely, lol
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This is slightly off topic, but look at this page. [link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]


On the left, the sun looks like it has two eyes and a big 'mouth' just waiting to spit something at us.
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Re: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily)
This is slightly off topic, but look at this page. [link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]


On the left, the sun looks like it has two eyes and a big 'mouth' just waiting to spit something at us.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18435996


Haha..I see that too!
***Earth was once considered to be flat. Anything is possible.***





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