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Starry eyes User ID: 13160787 United States 07/11/2012 07:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm postponing any X-flares to occur after 10 UTC time today.. good night. Nothing is going to happen in the next 10 hours or so. (this is to test anti glp-effect) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16257329 I have to agree. The activity will flat line for the next 10 hours. ;) ***Earth was once considered to be flat. Anything is possible.*** |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19297584 United States 07/11/2012 08:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm postponing any X-flares to occur after 10 UTC time today.. good night. Nothing is going to happen in the next 10 hours or so. (this is to test anti glp-effect) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16257329 I have to agree. The activity will flat line for the next 10 hours. ;) I'll bet the baseline stays in 'B' territory until tomorrow at least. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1540313 United States 07/11/2012 08:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm postponing any X-flares to occur after 10 UTC time today.. good night. Nothing is going to happen in the next 10 hours or so. (this is to test anti glp-effect) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16257329 I have to agree. The activity will flat line for the next 10 hours. ;) I'll bet the baseline stays in 'B' territory until tomorrow at least. I can not beleive x-rays falling like it is- how weird is this? [link to www.solarham.net] It's only 5pm Ca. time , so I will watch for a few more hours. |
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joinca User ID: 8793176 United States 07/11/2012 08:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Space Weather Message Code: WARK04 Serial Number: 1970 Issue Time: 2012 Jul 11 2348 UTC EXTENDED WARNING: Geomagnetic K-index of 4 expected Extension to Serial Number: 1969 Valid From: 2012 Jul 11 1035 UTC Now Valid Until: 2012 Jul 12 0600 UTC Warning Condition: Persistence Comment: Bz is negative and has been for 5 hours. Potential Impacts: Area of impact primarily poleward of 65 degrees Geomagnetic Latitude. Induced Currents - Weak power grid fluctuations can occur. Aurora - Aurora may be visible at high latitudes such as Canada and Alaska. Just posted from here: [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] "The government will one day be corrupt and full of liars, and the people will flock to the one that tells the truth." - “Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the citizenry.” - "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." - "I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them." - "A Country with no Border, is not a country" -- Thomas Jefferson We MUST NEVER forget what Kamala Harris did to Justice Kavanaugh & his family! |
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shadasonic User ID: 15732022 United States 07/11/2012 08:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't care what the popular opinion is the Northern polarity jump has done something to the energy release.Electric force is 10x40 that of gravity. This gives atomic atoms their unique characteristics. There is a mutual repulsion between + charged nucleus and the - charged electrons, but then theres the issue of a mutual attraction to gravity. Now think about this, if you alter the ratio between them by a small amount, you can greatly change the characteristics of atomic(solar) energy. Raising the efficiency of transformation means allowing a stronger glue between the particles and their distribution release. In theory with the suns polarity issue the stronger the SS the bigger the chance it holds its energy back because of this'glue'. Probably way off, but i've been dwelling on this for awhile This is definitely open for discussion as my postulation may or may not hold water. Its either this or ... aliens. lol Last Edited by Thinking out loud on 07/11/2012 08:37 PM “One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan |
Mission Invisible User ID: 6486321 United States 07/11/2012 08:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Starry eyes Its not over until the fat lady sings, and I have not heard any fat ladies! Lol funny you say that a headliner on the news today was about the worlds largest woman... im on my phone I'll link it from a computer if anyone cares... just ironic, thats all ;) |
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Starry eyes User ID: 13160787 United States 07/11/2012 08:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't care what the popular opinion is the Northern polarity jump has done something to the energy release.Electric force is 10x40 that of gravity. This gives atomic atoms their unique characteristics. There is a mutual repulsion between + charged nucleus and the - charged electrons, but then theres the issue of a mutual attraction to gravity. Now think about this, if you alter the ratio between them by a small amount, you can greatly change the characteristics of atomic(solar) energy. Raising the efficiency of transformation means allowing a stronger glue between the particles and their distribution release. In theory with the suns polarity issue the stronger the SS the bigger the chance it holds its energy back because of this'glue'. Probably way off, but i've been dwelling on this for awhile Quoting: shadasonic This is definitely open for discussion as my postulation may or may not hold water. Its either this or ... aliens. lol ***Earth was once considered to be flat. Anything is possible.*** |
shadasonic User ID: 15732022 United States 07/11/2012 09:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't care what the popular opinion is the Northern polarity jump has done something to the energy release.Electric force is 10x40 that of gravity. This gives atomic atoms their unique characteristics. There is a mutual repulsion between + charged nucleus and the - charged electrons, but then theres the issue of a mutual attraction to gravity. Now think about this, if you alter the ratio between them by a small amount, you can greatly change the characteristics of atomic(solar) energy. Raising the efficiency of transformation means allowing a stronger glue between the particles and their distribution release. In theory with the suns polarity issue the stronger the SS the bigger the chance it holds its energy back because of this'glue'. Probably way off, but i've been dwelling on this for awhile Quoting: shadasonic This is definitely open for discussion as my postulation may or may not hold water. Its either this or ... aliens. lol SS energy stealing bast@#%s! Last Edited by Thinking out loud on 07/11/2012 09:14 PM “One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 19141775 Netherlands 07/11/2012 09:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't care what the popular opinion is the Northern polarity jump has done something to the energy release.Electric force is 10x40 that of gravity. This gives atomic atoms their unique characteristics. There is a mutual repulsion between + charged nucleus and the - charged electrons, but then theres the issue of a mutual attraction to gravity. Now think about this, if you alter the ratio between them by a small amount, you can greatly change the characteristics of atomic(solar) energy. Raising the efficiency of transformation means allowing a stronger glue between the particles and their distribution release. In theory with the suns polarity issue the stronger the SS the bigger the chance it holds its energy back because of this'glue'. Probably way off, but i've been dwelling on this for awhile Quoting: shadasonic This is definitely open for discussion as my postulation may or may not hold water. Its either this or ... aliens. lol It remind me some kind of song |
Mission Invisible User ID: 2157925 United States 07/11/2012 09:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] I've always thought it would be cool if someone musically inclined could map out the rhythm of the Sun...like make a music scale and see where the peaks and valleys are of the lines. Might form a cool tune! |
Starry eyes User ID: 13160787 United States 07/11/2012 09:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Very interesting pattern forming...almost a somewhat smooth line pattern, with jumps every so often. Quoting: Mission Invisible [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] I've always thought it would be cool if someone musically inclined could map out the rhythm of the Sun...like make a music scale and see where the peaks and valleys are of the lines. Might form a cool tune! That would be neat.. But this fat lady is gonna keep her mouth shut and not sing to please my Suntard team. lol Last Edited by Starry eyes on 07/11/2012 09:40 PM ***Earth was once considered to be flat. Anything is possible.*** |
Parvati User ID: 7521845 New Zealand 07/11/2012 09:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've always thought it would be cool if someone musically inclined could map out the rhythm of the Sun...like make a music scale and see where the peaks and valleys are of the lines. Quoting: Mission Invisible Might form a cool tune! Published on Jun 21, 2012 by jemcenery Putting a Fermi Gamma-ray burst to music. Made by Sylvia Zhu (Music) and Judy Racusin (animation) Scientists translate gamma rays to music By converting distant gamma-ray bursts to harp, cello and piano notes, NASA researchers say they've found a new way of 'listening to the universe.' Fri, Jun 22 2012 [link to www.mnn.com] :em77: Truth [Satya] indeed conquers! Not untruth, falsehood. Untruth is all discord, out of harmony with the Real. The Real is a spontaneous unfolding of the One. - Mundaka Upanishad III.1.6 |
Mission Invisible User ID: 2157925 United States 07/11/2012 09:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Very interesting pattern forming...almost a somewhat smooth line pattern, with jumps every so often. Quoting: Mission Invisible [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] I've always thought it would be cool if someone musically inclined could map out the rhythm of the Sun...like make a music scale and see where the peaks and valleys are of the lines. Might form a cool tune! That would be neat.. But this fat lady is gonna keep her mouth shut and not sing to please my Suntard team. lol lol I'm right there with ya... kareoke is about the only thing you will catch me singing for, and thats if I've had a few beers as a warm-up :) If the Sun could sing (well play a tune) I would hope it would something like Canon in D by Pachelbel... Last Edited by Missioninvisible on 07/11/2012 09:51 PM |
Hugh M Eye User ID: 19372178 United States 07/11/2012 09:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The C 4 flare was 1520. [link to halpha.nso.edu] Looks like I missed a few CMEs today. SOHO C3 image: [link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov] STEREO A image: [link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov] It looks like 1513 may have unleashed a biggie on the far-side. |
Mission Invisible User ID: 2157925 United States 07/11/2012 09:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've always thought it would be cool if someone musically inclined could map out the rhythm of the Sun...like make a music scale and see where the peaks and valleys are of the lines. Quoting: Mission Invisible Might form a cool tune! Published on Jun 21, 2012 by jemcenery Putting a Fermi Gamma-ray burst to music. Made by Sylvia Zhu (Music) and Judy Racusin (animation) Scientists translate gamma rays to music By converting distant gamma-ray bursts to harp, cello and piano notes, NASA researchers say they've found a new way of 'listening to the universe.' Fri, Jun 22 2012 [link to www.mnn.com] :em77: Ahh thanks this is awesome! I'll definitely listen and look into it! |
NiNzrez (OP) User ID: 12844841 United States 07/11/2012 10:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | over the last 4hrs or so, there has FINALLY been some growth within sunspot 1520 it has remained stable with little change in the last 24hrs but looking at the SDO magnetogran images for today, i can see delta growth within the main section of 1520 as well as growth and movement within the surrounding sunspot regions our calm soon may be over for anyone interested in looking here is the link for the SDO movie page look at the movie for the beginning of the 11th and ending 06:00 or later for the 12th [link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov] Last Edited by NiNzrez on 07/11/2012 10:03 PM Join Me On The GLP SOLAR WATCH Thread Thread: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily) |
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whiteangel also known at WA User ID: 1775746 United States 07/11/2012 10:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Question for someone: Quoting: Wash If a BIG X popped off and the CME hit while we (North America) were experiencing night...would it still impact us? the direct hit would be on the sun facing side of earth BUT it would hit all of earth no one side is missed while abother is hit CME's usually last for several hours during which time earth just keeps on spinning and soaking up the damage. My question is: after the big X-flare pops - say X75-100 - wouldn't the protons that slam into the earth right away also cause 'grid' problems? Most of us on here are watching the solar flares, one because we love it and two so we know when the "big-event" is happening with a little advanced knowledge. So, what do we need to know for sure? Is it only the CME that will take the grid down or will it happen right away??? I have asked this same question many times in many places and end up with very confusing answers. I am sure I am not the only one that would like to know this in average person understanding. Knowing it is the CME is one thing, wondering if it could be the protons that hit earth right away, it different and yes, a heck of a lot more worrisome. Anyone know on the above question highlighted in red?? Isaiah 5:20 KJV Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! Thread: Being Prepared - Updated Basic Food List On Page One |
shadasonic User ID: 15732022 United States 07/11/2012 10:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Question for someone: Quoting: Wash If a BIG X popped off and the CME hit while we (North America) were experiencing night...would it still impact us? the direct hit would be on the sun facing side of earth BUT it would hit all of earth no one side is missed while abother is hit CME's usually last for several hours during which time earth just keeps on spinning and soaking up the damage. My question is: after the big X-flare pops - say X75-100 - wouldn't the protons that slam into the earth right away also cause 'grid' problems? Most of us on here are watching the solar flares, one because we love it and two so we know when the "big-event" is happening with a little advanced knowledge. So, what do we need to know for sure? Is it only the CME that will take the grid down or will it happen right away??? I have asked this same question many times in many places and end up with very confusing answers. I am sure I am not the only one that would like to know this in average person understanding. Knowing it is the CME is one thing, wondering if it could be the protons that hit earth right away, it different and yes, a heck of a lot more worrisome. Anyone know on the above question highlighted in red?? Yes its the CME. One extremely large CME could take it down, or a series of hits opening up the magnetosphere. The plasmatic energy stretches the magnetosphere and its the snapback that delivers the blow,but a well placed series of events could trigger a possible collapse as gound electrons surge in on an open 'crack' in the shield. One other problem is if we were going through a pole shift our magnetosphere could weaken to the point of massive energy saturation as our geodynamo slows.Many variables for doom! Last Edited by Thinking out loud on 07/11/2012 10:48 PM “One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1540313 United States 07/11/2012 11:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: NiNzrez the direct hit would be on the sun facing side of earth BUT it would hit all of earth no one side is missed while abother is hit CME's usually last for several hours during which time earth just keeps on spinning and soaking up the damage. My question is: after the big X-flare pops - say X75-100 - wouldn't the protons that slam into the earth right away also cause 'grid' problems? Most of us on here are watching the solar flares, one because we love it and two so we know when the "big-event" is happening with a little advanced knowledge. So, what do we need to know for sure? Is it only the CME that will take the grid down or will it happen right away??? I have asked this same question many times in many places and end up with very confusing answers. I am sure I am not the only one that would like to know this in average person understanding. Knowing it is the CME is one thing, wondering if it could be the protons that hit earth right away, it different and yes, a heck of a lot more worrisome. Anyone know on the above question highlighted in red?? Yes its the CME. One extremely large CME could take it down, or a series of hits opening up the magnetosphere. The plasmatic energy stretches the magnetosphere and its the snapback that delivers the blow,but a well placed series of events could trigger a possible collapse as gound electrons surge in on an open 'crack' in the shield. One other problem is if we were going through a pole shift our magnetosphere could weaken to the point of massive energy saturation as our geodynamo slows.Many variables for doom! Also many variables in the speed of the CME. They can take hours to reach earth, or days. |
whiteangel also known at WA User ID: 1775746 United States 07/11/2012 11:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: NiNzrez the direct hit would be on the sun facing side of earth BUT it would hit all of earth no one side is missed while abother is hit CME's usually last for several hours during which time earth just keeps on spinning and soaking up the damage. My question is: after the big X-flare pops - say X75-100 - wouldn't the protons that slam into the earth right away also cause 'grid' problems? Most of us on here are watching the solar flares, one because we love it and two so we know when the "big-event" is happening with a little advanced knowledge. So, what do we need to know for sure? Is it only the CME that will take the grid down or will it happen right away??? I have asked this same question many times in many places and end up with very confusing answers. I am sure I am not the only one that would like to know this in average person understanding. Knowing it is the CME is one thing, wondering if it could be the protons that hit earth right away, it different and yes, a heck of a lot more worrisome. Anyone know on the above question highlighted in red?? Yes its the CME. One extremely large CME could take it down, or a series of hits opening up the magnetosphere. The plasmatic energy stretches the magnetosphere and its the snapback that delivers the blow,but a well placed series of events could trigger a possible collapse as gound electrons surge in on an open 'crack' in the shield. One other problem is if we were going through a pole shift our magnetosphere could weaken to the point of massive energy saturation as our geodynamo slows.Many variables for doom! Thank you I keep reading different info on it, with some saying that the first energy from the flare that reaches earth right away is also dangerous. The large CME or serious of would be a grid down, yes, but I just wondered if right after the flare or the flare itself that travels very quickly, would hurt earth or humans? Edit: forgot to ask, you did mean magnetic pole shift or physical? Last Edited by WhiteAngel on 07/11/2012 11:29 PM Isaiah 5:20 KJV Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! Thread: Being Prepared - Updated Basic Food List On Page One |
whiteangel also known at WA User ID: 1775746 United States 07/11/2012 11:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Was looking at this [link to www.solarham.net] and comparing 1520 with 1515. 1515 just looks denser, more powerful. Isaiah 5:20 KJV Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! Thread: Being Prepared - Updated Basic Food List On Page One |
Solar Guardian User ID: 19587744 Malaysia 07/11/2012 11:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm postponing any X-flares to occur after 10 UTC time today.. good night. Nothing is going to happen in the next 10 hours or so. (this is to test anti glp-effect) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16257329 I have to agree. The activity will flat line for the next 10 hours. ;) I will contribute to the anti-glp effect! I predict the graph will flatline until 1520 rotates away from Earth-facing side of the Sun! |
whiteangel also known at WA User ID: 1775746 United States 07/11/2012 11:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.youtube.com] Mentions a possible X-flare event caused by an alignment. Isaiah 5:20 KJV Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! Thread: Being Prepared - Updated Basic Food List On Page One |