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NiNzrez (OP) User ID: 12844841  United States07/13/2012 04:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | space weather says Bz is south. and solar ham says it's O- and has been for hours n hours. Nin do you know WTF is up w/ that? Quoting: SpiderJones Why are we getting such mixed data???  well then we go to the source [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] looking on the 1min data, here is what we have right now ACE solar conditions @ 20:45 UTC- Solar Wind Speed : 338.3 Density: 2.6 Bz: -0.3 so the Bz is south, but not by much Join Me On The GLP SOLAR WATCH Thread Thread: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily) |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 14296220  Finland07/13/2012 04:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's the effect of protons on the camera sensor. BTW, if you see sudden white very small dots appear and immediately disappear it is likely proton, electron or some other such particle hitting retina and making visual neurons fire. I've seen 4 of those yesterday and today. oh thats so cool to know I see those things pretty frequently, I'm super super light sensitive. Last day or two I have noticed I see them even not looking at the sky, some of the ones I have seen almost have a blue/gray color. Could it be the same thing? Those which you see when looking at the sky are probably what somebody here mentioned as "floaters". I see those too specially on a clear blue sky by the sea. They move very rapidly and there can be hundreds of them, they look a bit like spermatozoons on a microscope. Maybe personal differences in visual cell structure explain blue, or other colors. There are RGB cells in retina + BW night-vision mode + neuron layer that pre-process their information. That's quite many options for the protons to interact with. |
| NiNzrez (OP) User ID: 12844841 United States07/13/2012 04:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is from the main page where we all get that monitor from Quoting: NiNzrez About the Solar X-ray status monitor The X-ray Solar status monitor downloads data periodically from the NOAA Space Environment Center FTP server. The previous 24 hours of 5 minute Long-wavelength X-ray data from each satellite (GOES 8 and GOES 10) is analyzed, and an appropriate level of activity for the past 24 hours is assigned as follows: [link to www.n3kl.org] Well I sent this out. What's with the message flagged ??? I didn't flag it.  TO:[email protected] "Message flagged" ??? Friday, July 13, 2012 4:28 PM On your site [link to www.n3kl.org] you report an "M" flare after the X1.4 flare. I was wondering if you could clarify, as this was never seen on the GOES XRAY FLUX chart yesterday [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] . Was it an error on your part in reporting, or missing data from the GOES chart ??? Thanks in advance !! We'll have to see what they say Christine "Life may not be the party we hoped for... but while we are here we might as well dance!" it has now been changes to "Active" and the M status removed they must have got your mail any reply yet? Join Me On The GLP SOLAR WATCH Thread Thread: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily) |
| NiNzrez (OP) User ID: 12844841 United States07/13/2012 04:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's the effect of protons on the camera sensor. BTW, if you see sudden white very small dots appear and immediately disappear it is likely proton, electron or some other such particle hitting retina and making visual neurons fire. I've seen 4 of those yesterday and today. solarham has published that the image in the first picture is a comet and even circles it: "In the latest Lasco C3 images, A comet first discovered in 1986 and named 96P/Machholz1 is visible making its way through our solar system. This particular comet will not actually dive into our Sun. For more information, visit the NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory. [link to www.jpl.nasa.gov] solarham.net [link to www.facebook.com] so is it proton or comet? i'm confused now. sorry to put bs fb links, but that's where the info comes from. the image i posted was protons the image after it, that was 1st posted, was a comet so... both ^^ i will say sorry as well for a FB link but someone posted on the My Solar Alerts group a dif image with this same thing seen [link to www.facebook.com] Last Edited by NiNzrez on 07/13/2012 05:02 PM Join Me On The GLP SOLAR WATCH Thread Thread: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily) |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1540313 United States07/13/2012 04:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | space weather says Bz is south. and solar ham says it's O- and has been for hours n hours. Nin do you know WTF is up w/ that? Quoting: SpiderJones Why are we getting such mixed data??? well then we go to the source [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] looking on the 1min data, here is what we have right now ACE solar conditions @ 20:45 UTC- Solar Wind Speed : 338.3 Density: 2.6 Bz: -0.3 so the Bz is south, but not by much Thanks Nin, I've added it to my keepers list! I've been watching it, hoping it would not move south for the incoming CME. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 19669502 United States07/13/2012 04:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is from the main page where we all get that monitor from Quoting: NiNzrez About the Solar X-ray status monitor The X-ray Solar status monitor downloads data periodically from the NOAA Space Environment Center FTP server. The previous 24 hours of 5 minute Long-wavelength X-ray data from each satellite (GOES 8 and GOES 10) is analyzed, and an appropriate level of activity for the past 24 hours is assigned as follows: [link to www.n3kl.org] Well I sent this out. What's with the message flagged ??? I didn't flag it. TO:[email protected] "Message flagged" ??? Friday, July 13, 2012 4:28 PM On your site [link to www.n3kl.org] you report an "M" flare after the X1.4 flare. I was wondering if you could clarify, as this was never seen on the GOES XRAY FLUX chart yesterday [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] . Was it an error on your part in reporting, or missing data from the GOES chart ??? Thanks in advance !! We'll have to see what they say Christine "Life may not be the party we hoped for... but while we are here we might as well dance!" it has now been changes to "Active" and the M status removed they must have got your mail any reply yet? MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM nope !!!!  FYI that We'll have to see what they say was not in the original email ... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 9030235 United States07/13/2012 05:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am sure most of you have seen this but I just recently started using it and think its pretty cool: Solar Weather Browser 1.1.109 I tried to copy the link from the program but it wont let me so if you are interested just search it out and download the software. Has anyone used this and is the data trustworthy and timely? |
| RTS REDUX User ID: 8620349 United States07/13/2012 05:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | here's a link to the image NIN posted on Helioviewer Quoting: RTS REDUX [link to helioviewer.org] Edit to add: it WAS there! I previewed the post to make sure that link shows the start of the 'missing' M flare at 03:33:06 step it ahead in 15 minute intervals and you can see the progression C2 was not updating at the time correction: it looks like it started showing on C3 at 03:03:06 or thereabouts. Step it back another 15 minutes and it's not there Last Edited by RTS REDUX on 07/13/2012 05:15 PM |
| mtn_mang User ID: 18527751 United States07/13/2012 05:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what are the odds that you would have a proton event in one frame, and just 12 minutes later have a comet (that looks like a proton) in the next image? and no images since. i find it hard to swallow, but stranger things have happened :) |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 19669502 United States07/13/2012 05:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | here's a link to the image NIN posted on Helioviewer Quoting: RTS REDUX [link to helioviewer.org] Edit to add: it WAS there! I previewed the post to make sure that link shows the start of the 'missing' M flare at 03:33:06 step it ahead in 15 minute intervals and you can see the progression C2 was not updating at the time The only gap in GOES data was at @ 20:00 yesterday, and today from what I can see. |
| NiNzrez (OP) User ID: 12844841 United States07/13/2012 05:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Coming solar storm not likely to affect power grid "Scientists said it will be a minor event, and they have notified power grid operators, airlines and other potentially affected parties. "We don't see any ill effects to any systems," said forecaster Joe Kunches at the U.S. Space Weather Prediction Center in Colorado" [link to www.cbc.ca] usually they always have stories of the risk, not ones about there being no issue Last Edited by NiNzrez on 07/13/2012 05:18 PM Join Me On The GLP SOLAR WATCH Thread Thread: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily) |
| RTS REDUX User ID: 8620349 United States07/13/2012 05:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | here's a link to the image NIN posted on Helioviewer Quoting: RTS REDUX [link to helioviewer.org] Edit to add: it WAS there! I previewed the post to make sure that link shows the start of the 'missing' M flare at 03:33:06 step it ahead in 15 minute intervals and you can see the progression C2 was not updating at the time The only gap in GOES data was at @ 20:00 yesterday, and today from what I can see. I'm not sure what you mean but Lasco C2 had one frame of the X flare CME and then no data for the next 5 hours. I'm not sure when C3 started updating again but it shows the so called M-flare at around 03:00 UT |
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| <<LOOK`n thru YOU>> User ID: 1031150 United States07/13/2012 05:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is from the main page where we all get that monitor from Quoting: NiNzrez About the Solar X-ray status monitor The X-ray Solar status monitor downloads data periodically from the NOAA Space Environment Center FTP server. The previous 24 hours of 5 minute Long-wavelength X-ray data from each satellite (GOES 8 and GOES 10) is analyzed, and an appropriate level of activity for the past 24 hours is assigned as follows: [link to www.n3kl.org] I saw that on kevin's site to NIN.....made me wonder to, and now i wake up from a nap and see you had the same feed....thinks that make ya go hmmmmmm |
| shadasonic User ID: 15732022 United States07/13/2012 05:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | here is a good one Quoting: NiNzrez Coming solar storm not likely to affect power grid "Scientists said it will be a minor event, and they have notified power grid operators, airlines and other potentially affected parties. "We don't see any ill effects to any systems," said forecaster Joe Kunches at the U.S. Space Weather Prediction Center in Colorado" [link to www.cbc.ca] usually they always have stories of the risk, not ones about there being no issue Hey NIn on the solar page theres a revolving earth with hits on it . One says Jeff city MO. , thats very close to where I live? What exactly does that mean I feel alot of energy coming in the last 15 minutes, crazy vibes like electric water running down my head. I have never felt this type before? “One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 19660070  Germany07/13/2012 05:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hiya just a nice pic from sun....1520 in all its glory.. [link to m.flickr.com] Write from phone during work...psscchht and byes:) |
| shadasonic User ID: 15732022 United States07/13/2012 05:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've noticed that the last several large flares we've had have been all over MSM, this one I've heard nothing? My workers phones have been down all afternoon- AT&T,it rings once then says good bye, they aren't sure what the problem is(AT&T that is)! Last Edited by Thinking out loud on 07/13/2012 05:40 PM “One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan |
| RTS REDUX User ID: 8620349 United States07/13/2012 05:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | screenshot of C3 on helioviewer @ 03:03UT [link to oi46.tinypic.com] 'official' 03:03UT C3 image pulled from the SOHO site [link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 19669502 United States07/13/2012 05:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | here is a good one Quoting: NiNzrez Coming solar storm not likely to affect power grid "Scientists said it will be a minor event, and they have notified power grid operators, airlines and other potentially affected parties. "We don't see any ill effects to any systems," said forecaster Joe Kunches at the U.S. Space Weather Prediction Center in Colorado" [link to www.cbc.ca] usually they always have stories of the risk, not ones about there being no issue This is BS .... why not take the warnings and alerts down on space weather then ?? [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] Something tells me this may be more worrisome than they want known. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 19584872 United States07/13/2012 05:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | screenshot of C3 on helioviewer @ 03:03UT Quoting: RTS REDUX [link to oi46.tinypic.com] 'official' 03:03UT C3 image pulled from the SOHO site [link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov] I have a feeling this CME is stronger than they are letting out to be... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 15810497 United States07/13/2012 06:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | here is a good one Quoting: NiNzrez Coming solar storm not likely to affect power grid "Scientists said it will be a minor event, and they have notified power grid operators, airlines and other potentially affected parties. "We don't see any ill effects to any systems," said forecaster Joe Kunches at the U.S. Space Weather Prediction Center in Colorado" [link to www.cbc.ca] usually they always have stories of the risk, not ones about there being no issue Hey NIn on the solar page theres a revolving earth with hits on it . One says Jeff city MO. , thats very close to where I live? What exactly does that mean I feel alot of energy coming in the last 15 minutes, crazy vibes like electric water running down my head. I have never felt this type before? [link to www.revolvermaps.com] It's a visitor map for that website. That hit is your visit.......it doesn't mean you're getting hit. |
| Hugh M Eye User ID: 19372178 United States07/13/2012 06:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The leading edge of the CME can be seen on the STEREO A HI2 image- iit's the black blob entering the FOV on the right-hand side (note this image is 7 hrs old)- [link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov] |
| shadasonic User ID: 15732022 United States07/13/2012 06:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | here is a good one Quoting: NiNzrez Coming solar storm not likely to affect power grid "Scientists said it will be a minor event, and they have notified power grid operators, airlines and other potentially affected parties. "We don't see any ill effects to any systems," said forecaster Joe Kunches at the U.S. Space Weather Prediction Center in Colorado" [link to www.cbc.ca] usually they always have stories of the risk, not ones about there being no issue Hey NIn on the solar page theres a revolving earth with hits on it . One says Jeff city MO. , thats very close to where I live? What exactly does that mean I feel alot of energy coming in the last 15 minutes, crazy vibes like electric water running down my head. I have never felt this type before? [link to www.revolvermaps.com] It's a visitor map for that website. That hit is your visit.......it doesn't mean you're getting hit. I'm a genius! Thanks!  “One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan |
| shenue User ID: 5263313 United States07/13/2012 06:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I feel like my head is spinning and about to explode. CME moving faster...slower....missing data....missing frames. CME going to be stronger....weaker....etc etc. What is the bottom line on all of this? Does anyone really know approximately when the CME will hit and how bad it is likely to be? I feel like right now I can't trust any charts or graphs or space weather reports. NiN...anyone...what is the bottom line? Watch your thoughts; they become words. Watch your words; they become actions. Watch your actions; they become habits. Watch your habits; they become your character. Watch your character; it becomes your destiny. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 18674453  Romania07/13/2012 06:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I feel like my head is spinning and about to explode. CME moving faster...slower....missing data....missing frames. CME going to be stronger....weaker....etc etc. Quoting: shenue What is the bottom line on all of this? Does anyone really know approximately when the CME will hit and how bad it is likely to be? I feel like right now I can't trust any charts or graphs or space weather reports. NiN...anyone...what is the bottom line? 11years ago we had a magnetic field...now we have a poor excuse for a magnetic field that IMHO will not be able to cope with a few X20+ flares and their resulting CMEs ! I don't think this will be the one to send us back to the 1800s but soon... |
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| whiteangel also known at WA User ID: 1775746 United States07/13/2012 06:20 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | space weather says Bz is south. and solar ham says it's O- and has been for hours n hours. Nin do you know WTF is up w/ that? Quoting: SpiderJones Why are we getting such mixed data??? On Solarham, scroll down to the ACE click inside and it gives you this [link to www.solarham.net] Shows Bz south for sometime. On the main screen, I have noticed the Bz "dial" isn't always correct - glitches from time to time Isaiah 5:20 KJV Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! Thread: Being Prepared - Updated Basic Food List On Page One |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 13079166 United States07/13/2012 06:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | screenshot of C3 on helioviewer @ 03:03UT Quoting: RTS REDUX [link to oi46.tinypic.com] 'official' 03:03UT C3 image pulled from the SOHO site [link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov] Helioviewer is probably getting a mix of processed and unprocessed C3 imagery. They take out the constant background so new CMEs are more visible I believe. The background glow they are removing here is from the big guy. Same time stamps, at least at this moment... Unprocessed from nrl.navy ... [link to lasco-www.nrl.navy.mil] Click "latest lasco C3" Processed from soho ... [link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov] Also, haven't used helioviewer much but they seem to lag behind both SDO and C2,C3 direct sites fairly often. -- |
